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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> on 2004/06/18 10:21:12 UTC
Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Hi Cocoonistas,
I have to implement a simple discussion forum, voting (to rate
articles) and simple polls for a project that I'm working on, and I'm
hoping to be able to contribute these components as a new block before
I leave for the Big Trip.
As I'm leaving in ten days it won't be a polished thing, but should be
a good start. I'll use OJB for persistence, and design simple
components that can be used from Flow, with a few examples and anteater
and/or JUnit tests.
Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name this
new block?
forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
I'm lacking a good name ATM - as this will be several distinct
components, it could also be distinct blocks, but I think a single
block makes more sense as the implementations will be similar.
I could also contribute it later in August when I'm back, but my hope
is that people will improve it while I'm away ;-)
-Bertrand
Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Tony Collen wrote:
> Hmm, I thought we were trying to keep block names as descriptive as
> possible... IIRC we were going to name the "supersonic tour of cocoon"
> "supersonic", but then it was decided that a more descriptive name
> ("tour") was better... so perhaps just "forums" would be the best
> choice, even if it's more than just forums.
+1.
Calling it "nuke" implicitely makes it a competitor of PHPNuke and
JBossNuke against which it will be compared. This may lead to unwanted
frictions, flamewars and FUD (especially when we know what JBoss people
are able to).
Sylvain
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Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le 18 juin 04, à 16:31, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit :
> ...I thought that "nuke" is dictionary word in website business :-)
> If it is not, then yes, something like "forums" is better...
Yes, and Sylvain is right about not competing, specially because:
> Question to Bertrand: will it have mail-to-forum, forum-to-mail,
> forum-to-news bridge? :-)
no, it will be basic stuff: store and retrieve forum messages.
I haven't designed it in detail yet but I think a threaded forum
component is fairly simple if the aim is just to start new threads,
reply to messages and display messages sorted by timestamp and arranged
in threads. So don't expect too much.
So I'll go for the "forum" block, and vote/pool components will be free
goodies ;-)
Thanks for the collective input!
-Bertrand
Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>.
Tony Collen wrote:
> Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>
>> Ugo Cei wrote:
>>
>>> Il giorno 18/giu/04, alle 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name
>>>> this new block?
>>>>
>>>> forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I kinda like "coconuke".
>>
>>
>> Should block directory be simply "nuke", then? Block name can be
>> "Cocoon Nuke", or "Coconuke" in short.
>>
>
> Hmm, I thought we were trying to keep block names as descriptive as
> possible... IIRC we were going to name the "supersonic tour of cocoon"
> "supersonic", but then it was decided that a more descriptive name
> ("tour") was better... so perhaps just "forums" would be the best
> choice, even if it's more than just forums.
I thought that "nuke" is dictionary word in website business :-)
If it is not, then yes, something like "forums" is better.
Question to Bertrand: will it have mail-to-forum, forum-to-mail,
forum-to-news bridge? :-)
Vadim
Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Tony Collen <co...@umn.edu>.
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> Ugo Cei wrote:
>
>> Il giorno 18/giu/04, alle 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto:
>>
>>> Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name
>>> this new block?
>>>
>>> forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
>>
>>
>>
>> I kinda like "coconuke".
>
>
>
> Should block directory be simply "nuke", then? Block name can be "Cocoon
> Nuke", or "Coconuke" in short.
>
> Vadim
>
Hmm, I thought we were trying to keep block names as descriptive as possible...
IIRC we were going to name the "supersonic tour of cocoon" "supersonic", but
then it was decided that a more descriptive name ("tour") was better... so
perhaps just "forums" would be the best choice, even if it's more than just forums.
my 0.02 [$/EUR]
Tony
Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>.
Ugo Cei wrote:
> Il giorno 18/giu/04, alle 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto:
>
>> Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name
>> this new block?
>>
>> forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
>
>
> I kinda like "coconuke".
Should block directory be simply "nuke", then? Block name can be "Cocoon
Nuke", or "Coconuke" in short.
Vadim
Re: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components
Posted by Ugo Cei <ug...@apache.org>.
Il giorno 18/giu/04, alle 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto:
> Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name
> this new block?
>
> forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
I kinda like "coconuke".
--
Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/
Re: Leasson learned
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I should have learned before that pre-annoucing stuff usually does not
> work ;-(
>
> I won't have enough time before the Big Trip to contribute the forum
> components as (more or less) promised, sorry.
>
> So, unless someone beats me to it, it won't be before the end of August.
No problem, we can live without them until August... but not much after
!!!! ;-P
Enjoy you trip,
Sylvain
--
Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }
Leasson learned (was: Looking for a block name: forum, vote, poll components)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi folks,
I should have learned before that pre-annoucing stuff usually does not
work ;-(
I won't have enough time before the Big Trip to contribute the forum
components as (more or less) promised, sorry.
So, unless someone beats me to it, it won't be before the end of August.
-Bertrand
Le 18 juin 04, à 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
> Hi Cocoonistas,
>
> I have to implement a simple discussion forum, voting (to rate
> articles) and simple polls for a project that I'm working on, and I'm
> hoping to be able to contribute these components as a new block before
> I leave for the Big Trip....