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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> on 2013/07/24 10:22:35 UTC
AOO in the Linux distros
Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to try to get it into the Linux distros. At present if one selects OpenOffice in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear choice, not a default substitution.
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> > > installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> > > OSX.
> > >
> > > This would be helpful to the community I think.
> > >
> >
> > The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
> > specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
> > and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
> >
> > When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
> > which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which
> now
> > also needs some slight updating):
> >
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
> >
> > I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
> > any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
> >
>
> Correct however in the mind of many people they would like to see a 4.0
> instructions. Even if 99.9% de same. Should we just change it to the 4.0
> release? Even then, the blog will highlight these links.
>
The Install link above the wiki link specifically addresses 4.0.
The wiki page can be changed by anyone with a wiki account to reflect 4.0.
Or a new 4.0 page added with whatever changes anyone feels are needed.
>
> I remember OSDir - OpenShot used to do this, screenshot guides of
> installation of major distros and apps like OpenOffice, however there is
> some questions on trying OpenOffice 4.0 while keeping LibO without risk.
>
There's no reason why we can't do this. It just takes someone to make it
happen. That's what the wiki is for.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> > > >> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come
> > to
> > > >> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> > > OpenOffice
> > > >> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> > > >> choice, not a default substitution.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > > > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> > > >
> > > > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > > > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> > > >
> > > > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > > > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > http://www.openoffice.org
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
> > -- Jon Bon Jovi
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
>
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Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
-- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
> > I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> > installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> > OSX.
> >
> > This would be helpful to the community I think.
> >
>
> The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
> specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
> and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>
> When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
> which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
> also needs some slight updating):
>
>
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
>
> I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
> any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
>
Correct however in the mind of many people they would like to see a 4.0
instructions. Even if 99.9% de same. Should we just change it to the 4.0
release? Even then, the blog will highlight these links.
I remember OSDir - OpenShot used to do this, screenshot guides of
installation of major distros and apps like OpenOffice, however there is
some questions on trying OpenOffice 4.0 while keeping LibO without risk.
>
>
> >
> > On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> > >> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come
> to
> > >> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> > OpenOffice
> > >> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> > >> choice, not a default substitution.
> > >
> > > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> > >
> > > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> > >
> > > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://www.openoffice.org
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
> -- Jon Bon Jovi
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 25.07.2013 12:24, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.
>
> nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
> and don't underestimate the power of our brand.
>
> I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
> volunteers of LibreOffice.
>
> The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
> approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
> general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
> here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
> that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
> broad LO community.
That isn't a problem caused by the GNU/Linux-distributionsor their
maintainers. It's caused by some LO-developers.
>
> I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.
>
That would be the best - especially for the users of a Free office-suite.
>
> Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
> who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
> process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
> distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
> source.
>
We have to find out the needs and necessities of the distros. And we
need people who are willing and able to package AOO in the distros' way.
That's not easy.
>>
>> As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache
>> OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.
>
> agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
> distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area
>
There a not a lot of people in the world who are able and willing to do
that. AOO (and LibrOffice also) is really a beast of code.
Regards
Michael
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 7/25/13 7:37 AM, Mechtilde wrote:
> Hello Juergen, Dave, all Am 24.07.2013 23:53, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado
>>>> <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
>>>>> installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also
>>>>> Win and OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be helpful to the community I think.
>>>>
>>>> The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not
>>>> from a distro specific perspective. These instructions work
>>>> very well for some distros and not well for others. I can't
>>>> elaborate much more on that statement.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>>>>
>>>> When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation
>>>> instructions which are included in the wiki version of the
>>>> Linux install page (which now also needs some slight
>>>> updating):
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
>>>> any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above
>>>> wiki page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select
>>> OpenOffice it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop
>>> this...
>>>
>>> Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should
>>> stop them to use our brand.
>>
>> If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with
>> Shane on the trademarks@ list.
>>
>> We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to
>> cooperate first.
>
> What do you expect?
>
> We should look deeper into the process how the installation or
> update if openoffice/libreoffice works in the distributions (actual
> versions)
>
> If people tell us that they don't get the office they want then we
> have to analyse what the do. Then we have to explain how they get
> what they want
>
> So we can solve most of the problems.
>
> Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.
nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
and don't underestimate the power of our brand.
I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
volunteers of LibreOffice.
The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
broad LO community.
I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.
Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
source.
>
> As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache
> OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.
agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area
Juergen
>
> Kind reards
>
>
> Mechtilde
>>
>> Regards, Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>>>>> <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
>>>>>>> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the
>>>>>>> time has come to try to get it into the Linux
>>>>>>> distros.At present if one selects
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenOffice
>>>>>>> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should
>>>>>>> get a clear choice, not a default substitution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are
>>>>>> willing to package and maintain AOO among these distros'
>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
>>>>>> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for
>>>>>> Ubuntu, Arch, Slackware and other distros.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Mechtilde <oo...@mechtilde.de>.
Hello Juergen, Dave, all
Am 24.07.2013 23:53, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado
>>> <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
>>>> installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win
>>>> and OSX.
>>>>
>>>> This would be helpful to the community I think.
>>>
>>> The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a
>>> distro specific perspective. These instructions work very well
>>> for some distros and not well for others. I can't elaborate much
>>> more on that statement.
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>>>
>>> When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation
>>> instructions which are included in the wiki version of the Linux
>>> install page (which now also needs some slight updating):
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
>>>
>>>
>>>
I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
>>> any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki
>>> page.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice
>> it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop this...
>>
>> Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop
>> them to use our brand.
>
> If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with Shane on
> the trademarks@ list.
>
> We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to cooperate
> first.
What do you expect?
We should look deeper into the process how the installation or update if
openoffice/libreoffice works in the distributions (actual versions)
If people tell us that they don't get the office they want then we have
to analyse what the do. Then we have to explain how they get what they want
So we can solve most of the problems.
Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.
As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache
OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.
Kind reards
Mechtilde
>
> Regards, Dave
>
>>
>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
>>>>>> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time
>>>>>> has come to try to get it into the Linux distros.At present
>>>>>> if one selects
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OpenOffice
>>>>>> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get
>>>>>> a clear choice, not a default substitution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are
>>>>> willing to package and maintain AOO among these distros'
>>>>> developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
>>>>> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for
>>>>> Ubuntu, Arch, Slackware and other distros.
>>>>>
>>>>>
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
>>> installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
>>> OSX.
>>>
>>> This would be helpful to the community I think.
>>
>> The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
>> specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
>> and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>>
>> When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
>> which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
>> also needs some slight updating):
>>
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
>>
>> I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
>> any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
>>
>>
>
> if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop this...
>
> Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand.
If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with Shane on the trademarks@ list.
We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to cooperate first.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>> Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
>>>>> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
>>>>> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> OpenOffice
>>>>> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
>>>>> choice, not a default substitution.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
>>>> package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
>>>>
>>>> Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
>>>> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
>>>>
>>>> Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
>>>> Arch, Slackware and other distros.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
>> -- Jon Bon Jovi
>>
>>
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> > > installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> > > OSX.
> > >
> > > This would be helpful to the community I think.
> >
> > The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
> > specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
> > and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
> >
> > When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
> > which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which
> now
> > also needs some slight updating):
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
> >
> > I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
> > any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
> >
> >
>
> if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a
> trademark violation and it is time to stop this...
>
> Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to
> use our brand.
>
> Juergen
>
I remember you brought this up before. What I had found in my case, was not
the situation you're talking about, but the relinking of the base program,
"soffice". OK, time to start looking for the other matter.
>
> >
> > >
> > > On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> > > > > Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has
> come to
> > > > > try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > OpenOffice
> > > > > in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> > > > > choice, not a default substitution.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > > > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> > > >
> > > > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > > > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> > > >
> > > > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > > > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > http://www.openoffice.org
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
> > -- Jon Bon Jovi
> >
> >
>
>
>
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
-- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Greg Madden <go...@gmail.com>.
Debian Wheezy system.
root@wheezy64:~# apt-get -s install openoffice.org
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless
fonts-lyx fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic
fonts-stix icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx-common java-common libapache-pom-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
libcmis-0.2-0 libcolamd2.7.1 libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
libcommons-logging-java libcommons-parent-java libdb-java libdb-je-java
libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-jni libexttextcat-data libexttextcat0
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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:
> On 24/07/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand
>>
>
> Before any further discussion of this, we should have real examples where
> running the equivalent of "yum install openoffice[.org]" or "apt-get
> install openoffice[.org]" downloads something else.
>
> Some distributions used "transitional" packages, but they have likely been
> removed in recent releases in most cases. Let's get concrete examples from
> recent distribution releases before continuing.
>
> (and yes, I also think that if such cases still exist it will be possible
> to solve them in a friendly way; and the "soffice" alias is a separate
> problem)
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 24/07/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand
Before any further discussion of this, we should have real examples
where running the equivalent of "yum install openoffice[.org]" or
"apt-get install openoffice[.org]" downloads something else.
Some distributions used "transitional" packages, but they have likely
been removed in recent releases in most cases. Let's get concrete
examples from recent distribution releases before continuing.
(and yes, I also think that if such cases still exist it will be
possible to solve them in a friendly way; and the "soffice" alias is a
separate problem)
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
> > I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> > installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> > OSX.
> >
> > This would be helpful to the community I think.
>
> The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
> specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
> and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>
> When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
> which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
> also needs some slight updating):
>
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
>
> I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
> any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
>
>
if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop this...
Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand.
Juergen
>
>
> >
> > On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> > > > Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
> > > > try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > OpenOffice
> > > > in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> > > > choice, not a default substitution.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> > >
> > > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> > >
> > > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Alexandro Colorado
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>
Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> OSX.
>
> This would be helpful to the community I think.
>
The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
also needs some slight updating):
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
>
> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> >> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
> >> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> OpenOffice
> >> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> >> choice, not a default substitution.
> >
> > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> >
> > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> >
> > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/7/24 Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
> installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
> OSX.
>
> This would be helpful to the community I think.
>
Blog posts are forgotten in a matter of days, so unless there are clear
links elsewhere pointing to it a blog post will not help. But there is no
need for a blog post either: there is an official installation guide linked
directly from the download page, and on the forums there are several
install guides.
Perhaps we can think about ways to make the information more visible, but
it is already there.
Regards
Ricardo
>
>
> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> >> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
> >> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
> OpenOffice
> >> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
> >> choice, not a default substitution.
> >
> > The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> > package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
> >
> > Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
> >
> > Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> > Arch, Slackware and other distros.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
OSX.
This would be helpful to the community I think.
On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
>> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
>> try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects OpenOffice
>> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
>> choice, not a default substitution.
>
> The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
> package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
>
> Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
>
> Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
> Arch, Slackware and other distros.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>
>
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros
Posted by Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <ch...@gentoo.org>.
Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects OpenOffice in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear choice, not a default substitution.
The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
Arch, Slackware and other distros.
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
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