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Posted to dev@diversity.apache.org by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> on 2019/12/22 02:22:11 UTC
Exam scores rank privilege not academic merit
HI,
Interesting one person’s story about access to education and outcomes:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-22/atar-measure-privilege-not-academic-merit/11817974
This is Australian based so may use some educational terms you're not familiar with:
HSC = Higher School Certificate (Year 12 high school marks)
ATAR == University entrance score
VET = Vocational Education and Training
TAFE = Technical and Further Education (An alternative to university that teaches trades and the courses are more integrated with the workforce.)
Also a lot of TAFE courses are free or subsidised by the government and can use used as an entry into university. What stuck me is I generally see education as easily accessible here, even for those from disadvantaged backgrounds.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Exam scores rank privilege not academic merit
Posted by Georg Link <li...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for sharing these interesting articles!
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 2:08 PM William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net>
wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:29 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think that there have been several articles of late that indicate the
> > same thing about US entrance exams like ACT and SAT.
> >
> > I don't have links, though.
> >
>
> The articles on the University of California systemare probably the
> most useful context, for example;
>
> https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-23/uc-officials-recommend-dropping-sat-admission-requirement
>
> As UC goes, so goes most of the country. (It is 3 1/2 times larger than
> the SUNY system and is more than 10 times larger than all but a few
> spread throughout CA, OH, GA, FL, NY and TX.) These few together
> pretty much define academic testing requirements to the SAT and ACT
> organizations, for all the smaller institutions with little choice in the
> matter.
>
--
Georg Link, PhD
(he/him)
Re: Exam scores rank privilege not academic merit
Posted by William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:29 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that there have been several articles of late that indicate the
> same thing about US entrance exams like ACT and SAT.
>
> I don't have links, though.
>
The articles on the University of California systemare probably the
most useful context, for example;
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-23/uc-officials-recommend-dropping-sat-admission-requirement
As UC goes, so goes most of the country. (It is 3 1/2 times larger than
the SUNY system and is more than 10 times larger than all but a few
spread throughout CA, OH, GA, FL, NY and TX.) These few together
pretty much define academic testing requirements to the SAT and ACT
organizations, for all the smaller institutions with little choice in the
matter.
Re: Exam scores rank privilege not academic merit
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
I think that there have been several articles of late that indicate the
same thing about US entrance exams like ACT and SAT.
I don't have links, though.
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 6:22 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> HI,
>
> Interesting one person’s story about access to education and outcomes:
>
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-22/atar-measure-privilege-not-academic-merit/11817974
>
> This is Australian based so may use some educational terms you're not
> familiar with:
> HSC = Higher School Certificate (Year 12 high school marks)
> ATAR == University entrance score
> VET = Vocational Education and Training
> TAFE = Technical and Further Education (An alternative to university that
> teaches trades and the courses are more integrated with the workforce.)
>
> Also a lot of TAFE courses are free or subsidised by the government and
> can use used as an entry into university. What stuck me is I generally see
> education as easily accessible here, even for those from disadvantaged
> backgrounds.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Justin