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[DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Hi!
with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
To inform the discussion, some project information is listed below:
Project status:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/madlib.html
Project website:
http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/
User documentation:
http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/docs/latest/index.html
Wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB
Github mirror:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-madlib
JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB/
Maturity assessment:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
DRAFT of the board resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
Proposed PMC size: 12 members
Total number of committers: 12 members
PMC affiliation ( * indicated chair):
Pivotal:
- Greg Chase
- Rahul Iyer
- Nandish Jayaram
- Orhan Kışlal
- Anirudh Kondaveeti
- Frank McQuillan
- Rashmi Raghu
- Roman Shaposhnik
Salesforce:
- Sarah Aerni
- Srivatsan R
Recruit Holdings:
- (*) Aaron Feng
Microsoft:
- Atri Sharma
Here are some project statistics for the period between when Apache
MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015 and the present:
over 200 commits on master
120 closed PR’s on GitHub
16 unique contributors on master
186 issues created
126 issues resolved
dev list averaged ~81 msgs/month over last 12 months
user list averaged ~22 msgs/month over last 12 months
Resolution:
Establish the Apache MADlib Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
learning framework for Data Scientists.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache MADlib Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
learning framework for Data Scientists.
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache MADlib" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache MADlib Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache MADlib Project:
Sarah Aerni <sa...@apache.org>
Greg Chase <gr...@apache.org>
Aaron Feng <aa...@apache.org>
Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org>
Nandish Jayaram <nj...@apache.org>
Anirudh Kondaveeti <ak...@apache.org>
Orhan Kışlal <ok...@apache.org>
Frank McQuillan <fm...@apache.org>
Srivatsan R <va...@apache.org>
Rashmi Raghu <ra...@apache.org>
Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
Atri Sharma <at...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Aaron Feng
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache MADlib, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache MADlib PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator MADlib podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator MADlib podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:19 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> What does the (*) on Recruit Holdings mean?
Affiliation of the proposed Chair.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Agreed, would be good to see MADlib graduate. What does the (*) on Recruit
Holdings mean?
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:24 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
>
> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
>
> To inform the discussion, some project information is listed below:
>
> Project status:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/madlib.html
>
> Project website:
> http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/
>
> User documentation:
> http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/docs/latest/index.html
>
> Wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB
>
> Github mirror:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-madlib
>
> JIRA:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB/
>
> Maturity assessment:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
>
> DRAFT of the board resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>
> Proposed PMC size: 12 members
>
> Total number of committers: 12 members
>
> PMC affiliation ( * indicated chair):
>
> Pivotal:
> - Greg Chase
> - Rahul Iyer
> - Nandish Jayaram
> - Orhan Kışlal
> - Anirudh Kondaveeti
> - Frank McQuillan
> - Rashmi Raghu
> - Roman Shaposhnik
>
> Salesforce:
> - Sarah Aerni
> - Srivatsan R
>
> Recruit Holdings:
> - (*) Aaron Feng
>
> Microsoft:
> - Atri Sharma
>
> Here are some project statistics for the period between when Apache
> MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015 and the present:
>
> over 200 commits on master
> 120 closed PR’s on GitHub
> 16 unique contributors on master
>
> 186 issues created
> 126 issues resolved
>
> dev list averaged ~81 msgs/month over last 12 months
> user list averaged ~22 msgs/month over last 12 months
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache MADlib Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
> learning framework for Data Scientists.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache MADlib Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
> learning framework for Data Scientists.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache MADlib" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache MADlib Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache MADlib Project:
>
> Sarah Aerni <sa...@apache.org>
> Greg Chase <gr...@apache.org>
> Aaron Feng <aa...@apache.org>
> Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org>
> Nandish Jayaram <nj...@apache.org>
> Anirudh Kondaveeti <ak...@apache.org>
> Orhan Kışlal <ok...@apache.org>
> Frank McQuillan <fm...@apache.org>
> Srivatsan R <va...@apache.org>
> Rashmi Raghu <ra...@apache.org>
> Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> Atri Sharma <at...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Aaron Feng
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache MADlib, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache MADlib PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator MADlib podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator MADlib podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io>.
here is the specific page that Rashmi updated.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Release+Process#ReleaseProcess-Publishing,distributingandannouncingtheRelease
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Rashmi Raghu <rr...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thank you for the feedback regarding the dist release directory and release
> documentation.
>
> The dist release directory now contains only the latest release. Old
> releases have been removed.
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
>
> The project release documentation has been updated to include instructions
> on removing old releases.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB
>
> Thanks again,
> Rashmi
>
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:14 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 23 May 2017 at 20:23, Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > Thanks for making the fix to the download page, Roman. Merged your PR.
> > > http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/download.html
> >
> > Looks really good.
> >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:27 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> >> Hi!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> > >> >> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> > >> >> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> > >> >> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> > >> >> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> > >> >> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> > >> >> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> > >> >> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> > >> >> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> > >> >> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> > >> >> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> > >> >> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> > >> >> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> > >> >> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> > >> >> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> > >> >> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that
> remaining
> > >> >> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > The website looks very nice.
> > >> >
> > >> > However there are some problems with the download page.
> > >> >
> > >> > The links all appear to point to
> > >> >
> > >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
> > >> >
> > >> > This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point
> to
> > >> > the ASF mirror system.
> > >> >
> > >> > The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
> > >> > release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
> > >> > It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old
> > >> releases.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
> > >> > hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
> > >> > KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
> > >> > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
> > >>
> > >> Great feedback. Filed https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/MADLIB-1108
> > >> and
> > >> will provide a fix ASAP.
> > >>
> > >> > IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
> > >> > Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
> > >> > releases after a new one has bee published.
> > >>
> > >> Yup. That too.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Roman.
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
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>
> --
> Rashmi Raghu, Ph.D.
> Pivotal Data Science
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Rashmi Raghu <rr...@pivotal.io>.
Thank you for the feedback regarding the dist release directory and release
documentation.
The dist release directory now contains only the latest release. Old
releases have been removed.
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
The project release documentation has been updated to include instructions
on removing old releases.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB
Thanks again,
Rashmi
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:14 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 May 2017 at 20:23, Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > Thanks for making the fix to the download page, Roman. Merged your PR.
> > http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/download.html
>
> Looks really good.
>
> > Frank
> >
> > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:27 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >> Hi!
> >> >>
> >> >> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> >> >> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> >> >> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> >> >> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
> >> >>
> >> >> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> >> >> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> >> >> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> >> >> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> >> >> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> >> >> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> >> >> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> >> >> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> >> >> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> >> >> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> >> >> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> >> >> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> >> >> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
> >> >> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The website looks very nice.
> >> >
> >> > However there are some problems with the download page.
> >> >
> >> > The links all appear to point to
> >> >
> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
> >> >
> >> > This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point to
> >> > the ASF mirror system.
> >> >
> >> > The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
> >> > release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
> >> > It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old
> >> releases.
> >> >
> >> > There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
> >> > hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
> >> > KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
> >> > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
> >>
> >> Great feedback. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB-1108
> >> and
> >> will provide a fix ASAP.
> >>
> >> > IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
> >> > Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
> >> > releases after a new one has bee published.
> >>
> >> Yup. That too.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roman.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Rashmi Raghu, Ph.D.
Pivotal Data Science
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 23 May 2017 at 20:23, Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thanks for making the fix to the download page, Roman. Merged your PR.
> http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/download.html
Looks really good.
> Frank
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:27 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
>> >> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
>> >> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
>> >> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
>> >>
>> >> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
>> >> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
>> >> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
>> >> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
>> >> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
>> >> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
>> >> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
>> >> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
>> >> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
>> >> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
>> >> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
>> >> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
>> >> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
>> >> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
>> >>
>> >
>> > The website looks very nice.
>> >
>> > However there are some problems with the download page.
>> >
>> > The links all appear to point to
>> >
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
>> >
>> > This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point to
>> > the ASF mirror system.
>> >
>> > The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
>> > release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
>> > It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old
>> releases.
>> >
>> > There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
>> > hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
>> > KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
>> > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
>>
>> Great feedback. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB-1108
>> and
>> will provide a fix ASAP.
>>
>> > IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
>> > Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
>> > releases after a new one has bee published.
>>
>> Yup. That too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks for making the fix to the download page, Roman. Merged your PR.
http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/download.html
Frank
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:27 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> >> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> >> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> >> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
> >>
> >> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> >> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> >> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> >> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> >> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> >> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> >> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> >> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> >> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> >> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> >> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> >> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> >> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
> >> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
> >>
> >
> > The website looks very nice.
> >
> > However there are some problems with the download page.
> >
> > The links all appear to point to
> >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
> >
> > This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point to
> > the ASF mirror system.
> >
> > The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
> > release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
> > It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old
> releases.
> >
> > There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
> > hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
> > KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
> > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
>
> Great feedback. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB-1108
> and
> will provide a fix ASAP.
>
> > IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
> > Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
> > releases after a new one has bee published.
>
> Yup. That too.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:27 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
>> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
>> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
>> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
>>
>> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
>> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
>> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
>> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
>> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
>> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
>> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
>> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
>> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
>> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
>> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
>> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
>> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
>> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
>>
>
> The website looks very nice.
>
> However there are some problems with the download page.
>
> The links all appear to point to
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
>
> This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point to
> the ASF mirror system.
>
> The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
> release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
> It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old releases.
>
> There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
> hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
> KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
Great feedback. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB-1108 and
will provide a fix ASAP.
> IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
> Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
> releases after a new one has bee published.
Yup. That too.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 23 May 2017 at 07:24, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
>
> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
>
The website looks very nice.
However there are some problems with the download page.
The links all appear to point to
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/madlib/
This is not allowed; download links for current releases must point to
the ASF mirror system.
The dist release directory has not been tidied up; only the latest
release(s) should be present on the mirror system.
It's unfair on the 3rd party mirrors to expect them to carry old releases.
There is no information on the download page how to check sigs or
hashes, and no link to the KEYS file.
KEYS, sigs and hashes should be linked from the following tree
https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/madlib/
IMO this needs to be fixed before graduation.
Also the project docs may need updating to ensure RMs remove old
releases after a new one has bee published.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Count me in!
> On May 24, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:13 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> +1
>> (if you would like another PMC member to join to help w/
>> the transition and post-graduation community hurdles, I volunteer).
>
> Would love to have you on board Jim!
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io>.
+1
That would be super, Jim!
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:13 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> > +1
> > (if you would like another PMC member to join to help w/
> > the transition and post-graduation community hurdles, I volunteer).
>
> Would love to have you on board Jim!
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:13 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> +1
> (if you would like another PMC member to join to help w/
> the transition and post-graduation community hurdles, I volunteer).
Would love to have you on board Jim!
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MADlib podling graduation
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
+1
(if you would like another PMC member to join to help w/
the transition and post-graduation community hurdles, I volunteer).
> On May 23, 2017, at 2:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> with my mentor hat on, I wanted to kick off this discussion
> thread on the basis of a general consensus in the MADlib
> community that it is time for the project to consider a TLP
> status: http://markmail.org/thread/mgjzwjjriqjrfsix
>
> Apache MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015. Since
> that time we have made 5 releases, added 3 committers and
> are actively pursuing other committers. We have extensive
> user documentation, an up-to-date wiki and an informative
> web page. We are a very helpful and engaged community,
> ready to answer all questions and feedback via the dev and
> user mailing lists. We have learned much about the Apache Way
> as a result of being an incubating project, and have incorporated
> the guidance that we have been given by our mentors and others.
> As part of that learning process we've learned a great deal about
> ASF's approach to IP and have resolved MADlib licensing concerns
> stemming from its BSD licensed past LEGAL-293. While we plan
> to continue to develop as a community, we do not feel that remaining
> as an incubating project is a prerequisite for this development.
>
> To inform the discussion, some project information is listed below:
>
> Project status:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/madlib.html
>
> Project website:
> http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/
>
> User documentation:
> http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/docs/latest/index.html
>
> Wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB
>
> Github mirror:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-madlib
>
> JIRA:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MADLIB/
>
> Maturity assessment:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
>
> DRAFT of the board resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>
> Proposed PMC size: 12 members
>
> Total number of committers: 12 members
>
> PMC affiliation ( * indicated chair):
>
> Pivotal:
> - Greg Chase
> - Rahul Iyer
> - Nandish Jayaram
> - Orhan Kışlal
> - Anirudh Kondaveeti
> - Frank McQuillan
> - Rashmi Raghu
> - Roman Shaposhnik
>
> Salesforce:
> - Sarah Aerni
> - Srivatsan R
>
> Recruit Holdings:
> - (*) Aaron Feng
>
> Microsoft:
> - Atri Sharma
>
> Here are some project statistics for the period between when Apache
> MADlib entered incubation on Sept. 15, 2015 and the present:
>
> over 200 commits on master
> 120 closed PR’s on GitHub
> 16 unique contributors on master
>
> 186 issues created
> 126 issues resolved
>
> dev list averaged ~81 msgs/month over last 12 months
> user list averaged ~22 msgs/month over last 12 months
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache MADlib Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
> learning framework for Data Scientists.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache MADlib Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a scalable, Big Data, SQL-driven machine
> learning framework for Data Scientists.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache MADlib" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache MADlib Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache MADlib Project:
>
> Sarah Aerni <sa...@apache.org>
> Greg Chase <gr...@apache.org>
> Aaron Feng <aa...@apache.org>
> Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org>
> Nandish Jayaram <nj...@apache.org>
> Anirudh Kondaveeti <ak...@apache.org>
> Orhan Kışlal <ok...@apache.org>
> Frank McQuillan <fm...@apache.org>
> Srivatsan R <va...@apache.org>
> Rashmi Raghu <ra...@apache.org>
> Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> Atri Sharma <at...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Aaron Feng
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache MADlib, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache MADlib PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache MADlib Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache MADlib Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator MADlib podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator MADlib podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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