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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2003/04/01 22:03:13 UTC
[Proposal] SuperXMailer
Hi All,
I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will
see a true value in this project and its active community.
Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the
moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We now
have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at apache
dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get through!
Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote in
advance.
-Andy
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
[0] rationale
SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for harvesting
email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing them in any
database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. It features
opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is run
as a meritocratic community-developed project.
Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), but
we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
[0.1] criteria
Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with a
core of committers including ASF members.
Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community. Its
users are very pleased with its performance and capture capabillities.
Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions via
Axis.
Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well aligned
with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
[1] scope of subproject
The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional components,
documentation, a web site and additional examples.
[2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be populated
The project currently resides on the SourceForge (http://tapestry.sf.net).
[3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
[3.1] mailing lists(s)
superx-user
superx-dev
[3.2] CVS repositories
jakarta-superx
[3.3] Bugzilla
framework - superx
components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
[3.4] Wiki
The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki in
order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation. However, its
extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have received mail from
persons using it with great results.
[4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter is
welcome to add their name here)
Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barrozzi
Glen Stampoultzis
[5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is welcome
to add their name here)
Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barrozzi
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
> Would it help if someone makes this an out-of-the-blue business
> requirement or policy? This consensus-through-discussion stuff is
> really slowing us down. We should not 'stimulate' developers to work
> along SDLC, just fire them if they don't.
The requirements can't be change until the next cycle, even if we
deliver what the user is sure to hate or what we deliver makes no sense
what-so-ever... ;-)
-Andy
>
> You're a sissy, don't you know?
>
> </Catbert>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 09:32 AM, Tom Copeland wrote:
> I hereby appoint myself Chief Architect. As my first act, I have
> completed our High Level Architecture. Here it is:
>
> ---------------- ---------------
> - SuperXMailer - <-----> - Other stuff -
> ---------------- ---------------
Buffoon! I think you really dropped the ball. There's an obvious
refactoring :
> ---------------- ---------------
> - SuperXMailer - <=====> - Other stuff -
> ---------------- ---------------
geir
P.S. Watch out, I'm after your job
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Tom Copeland <to...@infoether.com>.
I hereby appoint myself Chief Architect. As my first act, I have
completed our High Level Architecture. Here it is:
---------------- ---------------
- SuperXMailer - <-----> - Other stuff -
---------------- ---------------
Rose .mdl files will be posted to [insert expensive workflow product
name] shortly.
Yours,
tom
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 09:04, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> We really need to a submit a JSR to define an API to process these RFS
> tickets...
>
> Humm...I'm thinking of a much better idea for next year ;-)
<snip>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
We really need to a submit a JSR to define an API to process these RFS
tickets...
Humm...I'm thinking of a much better idea for next year ;-)
Steven Noels wrote:
> On 2/04/2003 12:35 Danny Angus wrote:
>
>> Better yet why don't we hand all our IT over to IBMGS then we don't
>> ever need to ask for anything or fire anyone because IBMGS will do it
>> all for us according to our IT policy which they will even kindly
>> write for us.
>
>
> Dear sir,
>
> I'm not in the position to answer to your mail, since I'm bound to a set
> of NDAs, SLAs and various other TLAs with assorted SOPs.
>
> In case you really want me to look into your enquiry, please file a
> request-for-empathy ticket (we even had an external company create a
> webapp for this!) on our Global Presence e-X-tranet website, and it will
> be passed into oblivion through various layers of indirection, line and
> business management, and in any case will not fall onto my desk before
> the procedure for yearly renewal of the procedure for
> request-for-sympathy enquiry handling is being conducted by some real
> executive management consultant rather than these IBMGS wannabees.
>
> Respectfully yours,
>
> </Catbert>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 2/04/2003 12:35 Danny Angus wrote:
> Better yet why don't we hand all our IT over to IBMGS then we don't
> ever need to ask for anything or fire anyone because IBMGS will do it
> all for us according to our IT policy which they will even kindly
> write for us.
Dear sir,
I'm not in the position to answer to your mail, since I'm bound to a set
of NDAs, SLAs and various other TLAs with assorted SOPs.
In case you really want me to look into your enquiry, please file a
request-for-empathy ticket (we even had an external company create a
webapp for this!) on our Global Presence e-X-tranet website, and it will
be passed into oblivion through various layers of indirection, line and
business management, and in any case will not fall onto my desk before
the procedure for yearly renewal of the procedure for
request-for-sympathy enquiry handling is being conducted by some real
executive management consultant rather than these IBMGS wannabees.
Respectfully yours,
</Catbert>
--
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
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RE: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> We should not 'stimulate' developers to work along
> SDLC, just fire them if they don't.
Why don't we just outsource the whole thing? then we don't need to really manage the project but we can *still* fire them if they don't give us what we want, whether its reasonable or not.
Better yet why don't we hand all our IT over to IBMGS then we don't ever need to ask for anything or fire anyone because IBMGS will do it all for us according to our IT policy which they will even kindly write for us.
Ah life! :-)
d.
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 1/04/2003 23:21 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> And we need to work on implementing a CMM process for opensource. The
> SDLC seems like an excellent way to do that. If we can get developers
> working along the SDLC, I think we could get a more repeatable
> development process. Far superior to standard opensource stuff! ;-)
Would it help if someone makes this an out-of-the-blue business
requirement or policy? This consensus-through-discussion stuff is really
slowing us down. We should not 'stimulate' developers to work along
SDLC, just fire them if they don't.
You're a sissy, don't you know?
</Catbert>
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Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>To make success inevitable, let's start by drawing a bunch of UML
>diagrams!
>
>
And we need to work on implementing a CMM process for opensource. The
SDLC seems like an excellent way to do that. If we can get developers
working along the SDLC, I think we could get a more repeatable
development process. Far superior to standard opensource stuff! ;-)
-Andy
>tom
>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Tom Copeland <to...@infoether.com>.
> I'm +1 to Andrew's proposal. I think it is terrible that there is not an
> enterprise class open source solution in this field. All those poor
> businessmen, using hacked together solutions or proprietary technologies.
>
To make success inevitable, let's start by drawing a bunch of UML
diagrams!
tom
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:
>
> >
> >> +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to
> >> use....
> >
> > Let me help you get started:
> >
> > "Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi, and I am the former
> > king...."
>
> You get kings? Mine tend to be the wives of deceased Ministers of
> Petroleum or something...
>
> I think we need to pay attention to the day of the year here...
I got my first Iraqi one the other day. I've been telling myself for years
now that I ought to have a map online which shows the countries I've
gotten them from.
I'm +1 to Andrew's proposal. I think it is terrible that there is not an
enterprise class open source solution in this field. All those poor
businessmen, using hacked together solutions or proprietary technologies.
Hen
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:
>
>> +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to
>> use....
>
> Let me help you get started:
>
> "Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi, and I am the former
> king...."
You get kings? Mine tend to be the wives of deceased Ministers of
Petroleum or something...
I think we need to pay attention to the day of the year here...
geir
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Tom Copeland <to...@infoether.com>.
> +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to
> use....
Let me help you get started:
"Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi, and I am the former
king...."
Yours,
Tom
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Erik Price <ep...@ptc.com>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will
> see a true value in this project and its active community.
+1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to
use....
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Interested in being a committer? Just add your name!
Steven Noels wrote:
> On 1/04/2003 22:03 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
>> incubator.
>
>
> :-D
>
> Nice one!
>
> </Steven>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 1/04/2003 22:03 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator.
:-D
Nice one!
</Steven>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Erik Price <ep...@ptc.com>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will
> see a true value in this project and its active community.
+1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to
use....
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 1/04/2003 22:03 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator.
:-D
Nice one!
</Steven>
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
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stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
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RE: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
eb site and additional examples.
>
> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to
> be populated
>
> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
(http://tapestry.sf.net).
My wife says I sometimes code in my sleep. Now I know what I've been up-to
:-)
Gotta watch that cut-n-paste!
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Not sure if I have a vote........but here my +1
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
> Ben,
>
> You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political
> thing. Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its
> great community project. We're even going to advance the state of
> development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize
> the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology. This is going to be
> big!
>
> I'd like to see more support from you on this!
>
> -Andy
>
> cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )
>
> PS: eyebrowse archive of general@jakarta is busted again. bah
>
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> > No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> >> GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there
> >> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
> >>
> >> Ben Hyde wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> >>>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> >>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> >>>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
> >>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
> >>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at
> >>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.
> >>>> We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
> >>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
> >>>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
> >>>> through!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your
> >>>> vote in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Andy
> >>>>
> >>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
> >>>>
> >>>> [0] rationale
> >>>>
> >>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
> >>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
> >>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
> >>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
> >>>>
> >>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
> >>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
> >>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again
> >>>> soon.
> >>>> [0.1] criteria
> >>>>
> >>>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules,
> >>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
> >>>>
> >>>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
> >>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
> >>>> capabillities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
> >>>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
> >>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of
> >>>> the codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are
> >>>> frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some
> >>>> significant extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web
> >>>> Services extensions via Axis.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts,
> >>>> Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
> >>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] scope of subproject
> >>>>
> >>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
> >>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
> >>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
> >>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
> >>>> populated
> >>>>
> >>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
> >>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
> >>>>
> >>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
> >>>>
> >>>> superx-user
> >>>> superx-dev
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
> >>>>
> >>>> jakarta-superx
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
> >>>>
> >>>> framework - superx
> >>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.4] Wiki
> >>>>
> >>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the
> >>>> ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan
> >>>> documentation. However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache
> >>>> committers have received mail from persons using it with great
> >>>> results.
> >>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
> >>>> is welcome to add their name here)
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
> >>>>
> >>>> Glen Stampoultzis
> >>>>
> >>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
> >>>> welcome to add their name here)
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Not sure if I have a vote........but here my +1
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
> Ben,
>
> You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political
> thing. Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its
> great community project. We're even going to advance the state of
> development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize
> the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology. This is going to be
> big!
>
> I'd like to see more support from you on this!
>
> -Andy
>
> cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )
>
> PS: eyebrowse archive of general@jakarta is busted again. bah
>
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> > No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> >> GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there
> >> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
> >>
> >> Ben Hyde wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> >>>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> >>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> >>>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
> >>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
> >>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at
> >>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.
> >>>> We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
> >>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
> >>>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
> >>>> through!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your
> >>>> vote in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Andy
> >>>>
> >>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
> >>>>
> >>>> [0] rationale
> >>>>
> >>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
> >>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
> >>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
> >>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
> >>>>
> >>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
> >>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
> >>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again
> >>>> soon.
> >>>> [0.1] criteria
> >>>>
> >>>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules,
> >>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
> >>>>
> >>>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
> >>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
> >>>> capabillities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
> >>>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
> >>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of
> >>>> the codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are
> >>>> frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some
> >>>> significant extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web
> >>>> Services extensions via Axis.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts,
> >>>> Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
> >>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] scope of subproject
> >>>>
> >>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
> >>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
> >>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
> >>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
> >>>> populated
> >>>>
> >>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
> >>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
> >>>>
> >>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
> >>>>
> >>>> superx-user
> >>>> superx-dev
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
> >>>>
> >>>> jakarta-superx
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
> >>>>
> >>>> framework - superx
> >>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
> >>>>
> >>>> [3.4] Wiki
> >>>>
> >>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the
> >>>> ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan
> >>>> documentation. However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache
> >>>> committers have received mail from persons using it with great
> >>>> results.
> >>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
> >>>> is welcome to add their name here)
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
> >>>>
> >>>> Glen Stampoultzis
> >>>>
> >>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
> >>>> welcome to add their name here)
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>Now that we've reached consensus, the Maven team has written a SuperXMaver
>plugin, by taking all the best ideas, I mean forking the source code, and
>refuses to let anyone else commit to the new SuperXMaver features.
>
>
Dion I'm glad to see maven covering the important feature of mail
harvesting. I don't however see why we can't all work together on it!
Or is it Glen? ;-)
For instance, at this very moment I'm working on dumping all of the
email addresses on the internet into one big HSSF generated
spreadsheet. Unfortuantely this process has required me to comondeer
the SETI network and nagoya just for the memory of course.
>Expect a Hacking x.y blog [1] entry to follow along with some vicious
>repartee amongst the various disfunctional personalities.
>
:-)
>Community building be damned. It's all about the code. Expect a
>community-less code dump to occur at regular intervals @ codehaus [4].
>
>
LOL
>When will you guys ever get a clue?
>
>--- rubys list follows ---
>[1] http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/
>[2] http://irc.werken.com/channels/
>[3] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=135
>[4] http://www.codehaus.org/
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>We just need to get the infrastructure guys on board.
>
>
I'll prepare a notification and pre-prepare a "its been 3 months and no
movement has happened" flame ... ;-)
-Andy
>Conor
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Conor MacNeill <co...@cortexebusiness.com.au>.
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:12 pm, Sam Ruby wrote:
> dion@multitask.com.au wrote:
> > When will you guys ever get a clue?
>
> I must say that this entire thread made my day. It is *nice* to see
> this group of people collaborating.
>
We just need to get the infrastructure guys on board.
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
dion@multitask.com.au wrote:
>
> When will you guys ever get a clue?
I must say that this entire thread made my day. It is *nice* to see
this group of people collaborating.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
"Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote on 02/04/2003 11:17:05 AM:
> >
> >
> >
> >Andy, as usual, you're making mountains out of molehills. There IS
broad
> >agreement - let's just go forward with this.
> >
> >
> Excellent! I'm glad we've reached a consensus!
Now that we've reached consensus, the Maven team has written a SuperXMaver
plugin, by taking all the best ideas, I mean forking the source code, and
refuses to let anyone else commit to the new SuperXMaver features.
Expect a Hacking x.y blog [1] entry to follow along with some vicious
repartee amongst the various disfunctional personalities.
There will of course be the mandatory IRC log extracts [2], some healthy
paranoia and discussion/flaming on community@ [3] to follow.
Community building be damned. It's all about the code. Expect a
community-less code dump to occur at regular intervals @ codehaus [4].
When will you guys ever get a clue?
--- rubys list follows ---
[1] http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/
[2] http://irc.werken.com/channels/
[3] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=135
[4] http://www.codehaus.org/
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>
>Andy, as usual, you're making mountains out of molehills. There IS broad
>agreement - let's just go forward with this.
>
>
Excellent! I'm glad we've reached a consensus!
-Andy
>Conor
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Conor MacNeill <co...@cortexebusiness.com.au>.
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:14 am, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Ben,
>
> You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political
> thing.
Andy, as usual, you're making mountains out of molehills. There IS broad
agreement - let's just go forward with this.
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Ben,
You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political
thing. Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its
great community project. We're even going to advance the state of
development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize
the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology. This is going to be
big!
I'd like to see more support from you on this!
-Andy
cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )
PS: eyebrowse archive of general@jakarta is busted again. bah
Ben Hyde wrote:
> No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there
>> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
>>
>> Ben Hyde wrote:
>>
>>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
>>>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
>>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
>>>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
>>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
>>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at
>>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>>>>
>>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.
>>>> We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
>>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
>>>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
>>>> through!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your
>>>> vote in advance.
>>>>
>>>> -Andy
>>>>
>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>>>>
>>>> [0] rationale
>>>>
>>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
>>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
>>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
>>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>>>>
>>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
>>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>>>>
>>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
>>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again
>>>> soon.
>>>> [0.1] criteria
>>>>
>>>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules,
>>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
>>>>
>>>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
>>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
>>>> capabillities.
>>>>
>>>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
>>>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
>>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of
>>>> the codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are
>>>> frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some
>>>> significant extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web
>>>> Services extensions via Axis.
>>>>
>>>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts,
>>>> Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>>>>
>>>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
>>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>>>>
>>>> [1] scope of subproject
>>>>
>>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
>>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
>>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
>>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>>>>
>>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
>>>> populated
>>>>
>>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
>>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>>>>
>>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>>>>
>>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>>>>
>>>> superx-user
>>>> superx-dev
>>>>
>>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
>>>>
>>>> jakarta-superx
>>>>
>>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
>>>>
>>>> framework - superx
>>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>>>>
>>>> [3.4] Wiki
>>>>
>>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the
>>>> ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan
>>>> documentation. However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache
>>>> committers have received mail from persons using it with great
>>>> results.
>>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
>>>> is welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>> Glen Stampoultzis
>>>>
>>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
>>>> welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Ben,
You're being obstructionist. Lets not make this into a big political
thing. Its important that Apache have a mass mailing solution and its
great community project. We're even going to advance the state of
development through extensive use of UML, implement the CMM and utilize
the grand System Development Lifecycle methodology. This is going to be
big!
I'd like to see more support from you on this!
-Andy
cc: community (see SuperXMailer proposal:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.general/4289 )
PS: eyebrowse archive of general@jakarta is busted again. bah
Ben Hyde wrote:
> No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there
>> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
>>
>> Ben Hyde wrote:
>>
>>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
>>>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
>>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
>>>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
>>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
>>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at
>>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>>>>
>>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.
>>>> We now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
>>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
>>>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
>>>> through!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your
>>>> vote in advance.
>>>>
>>>> -Andy
>>>>
>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>>>>
>>>> [0] rationale
>>>>
>>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
>>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
>>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
>>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>>>>
>>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
>>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>>>>
>>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
>>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again
>>>> soon.
>>>> [0.1] criteria
>>>>
>>>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules,
>>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
>>>>
>>>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
>>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
>>>> capabillities.
>>>>
>>>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
>>>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
>>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of
>>>> the codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are
>>>> frequent contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some
>>>> significant extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web
>>>> Services extensions via Axis.
>>>>
>>>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts,
>>>> Velocity, Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>>>>
>>>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
>>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>>>>
>>>> [1] scope of subproject
>>>>
>>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
>>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
>>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
>>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>>>>
>>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
>>>> populated
>>>>
>>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
>>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>>>>
>>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>>>>
>>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>>>>
>>>> superx-user
>>>> superx-dev
>>>>
>>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
>>>>
>>>> jakarta-superx
>>>>
>>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
>>>>
>>>> framework - superx
>>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>>>>
>>>> [3.4] Wiki
>>>>
>>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the
>>>> ApacheWiki in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan
>>>> documentation. However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache
>>>> committers have received mail from persons using it with great
>>>> results.
>>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
>>>> is welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>> Glen Stampoultzis
>>>>
>>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
>>>> welcome to add their name here)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
No way, not until the board clarifies project's reply-to header policy.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:35 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there
> is so much community enthusiasm for this!
>
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>
>> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
>>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
>>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
>>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
>>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
>>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at
>>> the moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>>>
>>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We
>>> now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
>>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
>>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
>>> through!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>>>
>>> [0] rationale
>>>
>>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
>>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
>>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
>>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>>>
>>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
>>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>>>
>>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
>>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again
>>> soon.
>>> [0.1] criteria
>>>
>>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules,
>>> with a core of committers including ASF members.
>>>
>>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
>>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
>>> capabillities.
>>>
>>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
>>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
>>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
>>> codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
>>> contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
>>> extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions
>>> via Axis.
>>>
>>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
>>> Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>>>
>>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
>>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>>>
>>> [1] scope of subproject
>>>
>>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
>>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
>>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
>>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>>>
>>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
>>> populated
>>>
>>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
>>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>>>
>>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>>>
>>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>>>
>>> superx-user
>>> superx-dev
>>>
>>> [3.2] CVS repositories
>>>
>>> jakarta-superx
>>>
>>> [3.3] Bugzilla
>>>
>>> framework - superx
>>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>>>
>>> [3.4] Wiki
>>>
>>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki
>>> in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation.
>>> However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have
>>> received mail from persons using it with great results.
>>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
>>> is welcome to add their name here)
>>>
>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>
>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>
>>> Glen Stampoultzis
>>>
>>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
>>> welcome to add their name here)
>>>
>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>
>>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
GREAT! Add yourself as a committer to the wiki page! I'm glad there is
so much community enthusiasm for this!
Ben Hyde wrote:
> +1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
>> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
>> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
>> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
>> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
>> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the
>> moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>>
>> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We
>> now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
>> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
>> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get through!
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote
>> in advance.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>>
>> [0] rationale
>>
>> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for
>> harvesting email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing
>> them in any database or XML file, and sending them email addresses.
>> It features opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>>
>> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
>> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>>
>> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30),
>> but we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
>> [0.1] criteria
>>
>> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with
>> a core of committers including ASF members.
>>
>> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.
>> Its users are very pleased with its performance and capture
>> capabillities.
>>
>> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
>> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
>> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
>> codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
>> contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
>> extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions
>> via Axis.
>>
>> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
>> Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>>
>> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
>> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>>
>> [1] scope of subproject
>>
>> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
>> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
>> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
>> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>>
>> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
>> populated
>>
>> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
>> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>>
>> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>>
>> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>>
>> superx-user
>> superx-dev
>>
>> [3.2] CVS repositories
>>
>> jakarta-superx
>>
>> [3.3] Bugzilla
>>
>> framework - superx
>> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>>
>> [3.4] Wiki
>>
>> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki
>> in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation.
>> However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have
>> received mail from persons using it with great results.
>> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter
>> is welcome to add their name here)
>>
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>
>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>
>> Glen Stampoultzis
>>
>> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
>> welcome to add their name here)
>>
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>
>> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
+1, I'm seriously considering doing an Ada port!
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks
> will see a true value in this project and its active community.
> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the
> moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>
> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We
> now have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at
> apache dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get
> through!
>
> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote
> in advance.
>
> -Andy
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>
> [0] rationale
>
> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for harvesting
> email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing them in any
> database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. It features
> opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>
> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is
> run as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>
> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), but
> we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
> [0.1] criteria
>
> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with
> a core of committers including ASF members.
>
> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community. Its
> users are very pleased with its performance and capture capabillities.
>
> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
> codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
> contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
> extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions
> via Axis.
>
> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
> Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>
> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well
> aligned with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>
> [1] scope of subproject
>
> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional
> components, documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>
> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be
> populated
>
> The project currently resides on the SourceForge
> (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>
> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>
> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>
> superx-user
> superx-dev
>
> [3.2] CVS repositories
>
> jakarta-superx
>
> [3.3] Bugzilla
>
> framework - superx
> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>
> [3.4] Wiki
>
> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki
> in order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation.
> However, its extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have
> received mail from persons using it with great results.
> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter is
> welcome to add their name here)
>
> Andrew C. Oliver
>
> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>
> Glen Stampoultzis
>
> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is
> welcome to add their name here)
>
> Andrew C. Oliver
>
> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>
>
>
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RE: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Nice one, made my day :-)
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: 01 April 2003 21:03
> To: Jakarta General List; general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [Proposal] SuperXMailer
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
> incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
> approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
> incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will
> see a true value in this project and its active community.
> Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the
> moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.
>
> Note that there is also something strange with the bug database. We now
> have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
> acoliverNOSPAM@NOSPAMapache.org and such, as well as acoliver at apache
> dot org. No worries, the mail will be harvested and get through!
>
> Thanks for your consideration. Please feel free to submit your vote in
> advance.
>
> -Andy
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal
>
> [0] rationale
>
> SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for harvesting
> email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing them in any
> database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. It features
> opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
>
> The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is run
> as a meritocratic community-developed project.
>
> Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), but
> we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
>
> [0.1] criteria
>
> Meritocracy: SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with a
> core of committers including ASF members.
>
> Community: SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community. Its
> users are very pleased with its performance and capture capabillities.
>
> Core Developers. SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
> committers. The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
> extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
> codebase. Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
> contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
> extensions. Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions via
> Axis.
>
> Alignment: SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
> Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
>
> Scope: SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well aligned
> with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.
>
> [1] scope of subproject
>
> The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
> programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
> search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional components,
> documentation, a web site and additional examples.
>
> [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be populated
>
> The project currently resides on the SourceForge (http://tapestry.sf.net).
>
> [3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created
>
> [3.1] mailing lists(s)
>
> superx-user
> superx-dev
>
> [3.2] CVS repositories
>
> jakarta-superx
>
> [3.3] Bugzilla
>
> framework - superx
> components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
>
> [3.4] Wiki
>
> The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki in
> order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation. However, its
> extremely easy to use. Many Apache committers have received mail from
> persons using it with great results.
>
> [4] identify the initial set of committers (Any Jakarta commmitter is
> welcome to add their name here)
>
> Andrew C. Oliver
>
> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>
> Glen Stampoultzis
>
> [5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is welcome
> to add their name here)
>
> Andrew C. Oliver
>
> Nicola Ken Barrozzi
>
>
>
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