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[PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Dear Apache Incubator Community,
Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
the OpenTracing initiative.
Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
be most welcomed.
regards,
Mick
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= Abstract =
Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
streaming module.
= Proposal =
The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
in APM field.
This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
* Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
collector for analysing and persistence.
* Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
= Background =
Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
application loggings, can provide less information because of the
distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
then.
= Rationale =
Skywalking includes these primary parts:
1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
cost.
2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
and altering.
4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
`tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
Wu, is the member of these organizations,
There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
= Initial Goals =
Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
Apache git repository.
= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
a member of PMC and Committer Team.
Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
them.
Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
== Community ==
OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
project and also used it in product, also provide many important
feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
www.suixingpay.com.
== Core Developers ==
The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
developers and team leaders.
* PMC members –
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
* Committer Team members –
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
== Known Risks ==
The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
product use cases are all from China.
=== Language and Culture ===
Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
== Orphaned products ==
The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
== Inexperience with Open Source ==
The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
apache/incubator-rocketmq.
Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
The project are following these two experienced open source people's
guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
== Homogenous Developers ==
The confirmed contributors list:
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors.
As mentioned above in the Community section.
== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
== Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
Cassandra.
== A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
== Documentation ==
* https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
* https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
== Initial Source ==
The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
These have existed as separate git repositories.
* https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
* https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
== Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
Foundation. There is no legal issue.
All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
from all committers and PMC.
== External Dependencies ==
* Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
* gRPC (Apache 2.0)
* netty (Apache 2.0)
* guava (Apache 2.0)
* elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
* H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
* Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
* disruptor (Apache 2.0)
* junit (MPL)
* mockito (MIT)
* powermock (Apache 2.0)
* Spring (Apache 2.0)
* gson (Apache 2.0)
* httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
* log4j (Apache 2.0)
* vis (Apache 2.0)
* webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
* animate.css (MIT)
* jquery (js.foundation)
* jquery-ui (js.foundation)
* jsView (MIT)
* metisMenu (MIT)
* d3 (BSD-3)
* echarts (BSD-3)
* DataTables (MIT)
* requirejs (MIT)
* vue (MIT)
= Required Resources =
== Mailing Lists ==
* private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
* commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
* dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
* user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
== Git Repositories ==
* https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
* https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
== Issue Tracking ==
GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
== Initial Incubator PMC ==
* 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
* 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
* 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
== Initial Committer ==
* 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
* 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
* 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
* 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
* 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
* 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
* 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
* 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
* 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
* 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
= Champion =
* Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
= Mentors =
* Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
* Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
* Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
lot.
== Sponsoring Entity ==
We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by mck <mc...@apache.org>.
> > The proposal includes a user@ mailing list.
> > This is generally not recommended for podlings as their focus needs to
> > be on building the developer community.
> >
>
> Podlings are more than welcomed to include user@ lists. There's nothing
> stopping them from building developers and users at the same time.
The request for a user@ list has been removed.
It makes sense to lazy request it once traffic volume demands it.
regards,
Mick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:59 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Top posting
>
> The proposal includes a user@ mailing list.
> This is generally not recommended for podlings as their focus needs to
> be on building the developer community.
>
Podlings are more than welcomed to include user@ lists. There's nothing
stopping them from building developers and users at the same time.
>
> Once a podling graduates, the user@ list can be created, and any
> external user mailing list subscribers can migrate across.
>
> This also works better if the podling does not graduate.
>
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 07:15, 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, Incubator Community people, and Romain
> >
> > My name is Sheng Wu, the founder and PMC member of SkyWalking APM
> project. I and other contributors of SkyWalking are glad to join the Apache
> Community, and welcome everyone to join ASF.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry for forgetting close the old donation. Please recheck that issue:
> https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 . I have close that issue and
> proposal.
> >
> >
> > ------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
> > 发件人: "Romain Manni-Bucau";<rm...@gmail.com>;
> > 发送时间: 2017年11月29日(星期三) 下午3:11
> > 收件人: "general@incubator.apache.org"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
> >
> > 主题: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mick
> >
> > I'm generally +1 and would be very happy to help but before voting can
> > you clarify the position with other donations like
> > https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 please?
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-29 7:58 GMT+01:00 mck <mc...@apache.org>:
> >> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> >>
> >> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
> >>
> >> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
> >> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
> >> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
> >> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
> >> the OpenTracing initiative.
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
> >> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
> >> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
> >> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
> >> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
> >> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
> >> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
> >> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
> >> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
> >> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
> >> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
> >> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
> >> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
> >> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
> >> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
> >> be most welcomed.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Mick
> >>
> >> ----
> >>
> >> = Abstract =
> >> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
> >> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
> >> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
> >> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
> >> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
> >> streaming module.
> >>
> >> = Proposal =
> >> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> >> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> >> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> >> in APM field.
> >>
> >> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> >> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> >> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> >> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> >> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
> >>
> >> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
> >> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
> >> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
> >> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
> >> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
> >> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
> >> collector for analysing and persistence.
> >> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
> >>
> >> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
> >>
> >> = Background =
> >> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
> >> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
> >> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
> >> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
> >> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
> >> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
> >> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
> >> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
> >>
> >> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
> >> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
> >> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
> >> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
> >> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
> >> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
> >> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
> >> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
> >> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
> >> then.
> >>
> >> = Rationale =
> >> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
> >> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
> >> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
> >> cost.
> >> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
> >> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
> >> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
> >> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
> >> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
> >> and altering.
> >> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
> >> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
> >>
> >> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
> >> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
> >> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
> >> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
> >> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
> >> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
> >>
> >> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
> >> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
> >> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
> >> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
> >> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
> >> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
> >> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
> >> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
> >> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
> >>
> >> = Initial Goals =
> >> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
> >> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
> >> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
> >> Apache git repository.
> >>
> >> = Current Status =
> >> == Meritocracy ==
> >> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
> >> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub
> in
> >> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
> >> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
> >> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
> >> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
> >> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
> >> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
> >> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
> >> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
> >> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
> >> them.
> >> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
> >> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
> >>
> >> == Community ==
> >> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
> >> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
> >> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
> >> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
> >> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
> >> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> >> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
> >> www.suixingpay.com.
> >>
> >> == Core Developers ==
> >> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> >> developers and team leaders.
> >> * PMC members –
> >>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> >> * Committer Team members –
> >>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
> >>
> >> == Known Risks ==
> >> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
> >> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
> >> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
> >> product use cases are all from China.
> >> === Language and Culture ===
> >> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> >> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> >> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> >> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> >> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> >> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> >> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> >> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> >> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> >> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> >> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> >> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
> >>
> >> == Orphaned products ==
> >> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
> >> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
> >> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
> >> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
> >> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
> >>
> >> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> >> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
> >> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
> >> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
> >> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
> >>
> >> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
> >> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
> >> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
> >>
> >> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
> >> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
> >>
> >> == Homogenous Developers ==
> >> The confirmed contributors list:
> >>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors
> .
> >> As mentioned above in the Community section.
> >>
> >> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> >> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
> >> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
> >> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
> >> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
> >> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
> >> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
> >> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
> >> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
> >>
> >> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> >> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
> >> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
> >> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
> >> Cassandra.
> >>
> >> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> >> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
> >> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
> >> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
> >> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
> >> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
> >>
> >> == Documentation ==
> >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
> >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
> >>
> >> == Initial Source ==
> >> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
> >> These have existed as separate git repositories.
> >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
> >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
> >>
> >> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> >> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
> >> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
> >> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
> >> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
> >> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
> >> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
> >> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
> >> from all committers and PMC.
> >>
> >> == External Dependencies ==
> >> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
> >> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
> >> * netty (Apache 2.0)
> >> * guava (Apache 2.0)
> >> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
> >> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
> >> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
> >> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
> >> * junit (MPL)
> >> * mockito (MIT)
> >> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
> >> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
> >> * gson (Apache 2.0)
> >> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
> >> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
> >> * vis (Apache 2.0)
> >> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
> >> * animate.css (MIT)
> >> * jquery (js.foundation)
> >> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
> >> * jsView (MIT)
> >> * metisMenu (MIT)
> >> * d3 (BSD-3)
> >> * echarts (BSD-3)
> >> * DataTables (MIT)
> >> * requirejs (MIT)
> >> * vue (MIT)
> >>
> >> = Required Resources =
> >> == Mailing Lists ==
> >> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
> >> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> >> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> >> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >> == Git Repositories ==
> >> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> >> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
> >>
> >> == Issue Tracking ==
> >> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
> >> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
> >> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
> >>
> >> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> >> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> >> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> >> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> >>
> >> == Initial Committer ==
> >> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> >> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> >> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> >> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> >> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> >> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> >> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> >> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> >> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> >> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
> >>
> >> = Champion =
> >> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> >>
> >> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
> >>
> >> = Mentors =
> >> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> >> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> >> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
> >>
> >> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> >> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> >> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> >> lot.
> >>
> >> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> >> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
> >>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Top posting
The proposal includes a user@ mailing list.
This is generally not recommended for podlings as their focus needs to
be on building the developer community.
Once a podling graduates, the user@ list can be created, and any
external user mailing list subscribers can migrate across.
This also works better if the podling does not graduate.
On 29 November 2017 at 07:15, 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Incubator Community people, and Romain
>
> My name is Sheng Wu, the founder and PMC member of SkyWalking APM project. I and other contributors of SkyWalking are glad to join the Apache Community, and welcome everyone to join ASF.
>
>
>
> Sorry for forgetting close the old donation. Please recheck that issue: https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 . I have close that issue and proposal.
>
>
> ------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
> 发件人: "Romain Manni-Bucau";<rm...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2017年11月29日(星期三) 下午3:11
> 收件人: "general@incubator.apache.org"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
>
> 主题: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
>
>
>
> Hi Mick
>
> I'm generally +1 and would be very happy to help but before voting can
> you clarify the position with other donations like
> https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 please?
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
>
>
> 2017-11-29 7:58 GMT+01:00 mck <mc...@apache.org>:
>> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>>
>> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
>>
>> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
>> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
>> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
>> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
>> the OpenTracing initiative.
>>
>> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
>> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
>> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
>> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
>> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
>> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
>> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
>> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
>> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
>> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
>> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
>> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
>> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
>> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
>> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
>> be most welcomed.
>>
>> regards,
>> Mick
>>
>> ----
>>
>> = Abstract =
>> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
>> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
>> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
>> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
>> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
>> streaming module.
>>
>> = Proposal =
>> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
>> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
>> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
>> in APM field.
>>
>> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
>> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
>> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
>> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
>> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
>>
>> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
>> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
>> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
>> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
>> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
>> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
>> collector for analysing and persistence.
>> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
>>
>> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
>>
>> = Background =
>> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
>> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
>> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
>> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
>> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
>> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
>> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
>> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
>>
>> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
>> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
>> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
>> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
>> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
>> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
>> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
>> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
>> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
>> then.
>>
>> = Rationale =
>> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
>> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
>> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
>> cost.
>> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
>> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
>> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
>> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
>> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
>> and altering.
>> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
>> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
>>
>> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
>> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
>> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
>> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
>> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
>> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
>>
>> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
>> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
>> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
>> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
>> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
>> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
>> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
>> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
>> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
>>
>> = Initial Goals =
>> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
>> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
>> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
>> Apache git repository.
>>
>> = Current Status =
>> == Meritocracy ==
>> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
>> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
>> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
>> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
>> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
>> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
>> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
>> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
>> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
>> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
>> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
>> them.
>> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
>> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
>>
>> == Community ==
>> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
>> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
>> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
>> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
>> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
>> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
>> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
>> www.suixingpay.com.
>>
>> == Core Developers ==
>> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
>> developers and team leaders.
>> * PMC members –
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
>> * Committer Team members –
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>>
>> == Known Risks ==
>> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
>> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
>> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
>> product use cases are all from China.
>> === Language and Culture ===
>> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
>> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
>> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
>> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
>> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
>> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
>> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
>> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
>> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
>> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
>> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
>> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
>>
>> == Orphaned products ==
>> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
>> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
>> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
>> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
>> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
>>
>> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
>> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
>> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
>> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
>>
>> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
>> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
>> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
>>
>> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
>> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
>>
>> == Homogenous Developers ==
>> The confirmed contributors list:
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors.
>> As mentioned above in the Community section.
>>
>> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
>> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
>> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
>> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
>> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
>> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
>> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
>> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
>>
>> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
>> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
>> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
>> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
>> Cassandra.
>>
>> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
>> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
>> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
>> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
>> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
>> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
>>
>> == Documentation ==
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
>>
>> == Initial Source ==
>> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
>> These have existed as separate git repositories.
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
>>
>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
>> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
>> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
>> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
>> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
>> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
>> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
>> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
>> from all committers and PMC.
>>
>> == External Dependencies ==
>> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
>> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
>> * netty (Apache 2.0)
>> * guava (Apache 2.0)
>> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
>> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
>> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
>> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
>> * junit (MPL)
>> * mockito (MIT)
>> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
>> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
>> * gson (Apache 2.0)
>> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
>> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
>> * vis (Apache 2.0)
>> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
>> * animate.css (MIT)
>> * jquery (js.foundation)
>> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
>> * jsView (MIT)
>> * metisMenu (MIT)
>> * d3 (BSD-3)
>> * echarts (BSD-3)
>> * DataTables (MIT)
>> * requirejs (MIT)
>> * vue (MIT)
>>
>> = Required Resources =
>> == Mailing Lists ==
>> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
>> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> == Git Repositories ==
>> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
>> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
>>
>> == Issue Tracking ==
>> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
>> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
>> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
>>
>> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
>> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
>> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
>> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>>
>> == Initial Committer ==
>> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
>> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
>> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
>> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
>> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
>> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
>> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
>> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
>> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
>>
>> = Champion =
>> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>>
>> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
>>
>> = Mentors =
>> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
>> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
>>
>> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
>> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
>> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
>> lot.
>>
>> == Sponsoring Entity ==
>> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
>>
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回复： [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com>.
Hi, Incubator Community people, and Romain
My name is Sheng Wu, the founder and PMC member of SkyWalking APM project. I and other contributors of SkyWalking are glad to join the Apache Community, and welcome everyone to join ASF.
Sorry for forgetting close the old donation. Please recheck that issue: https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 . I have close that issue and proposal.
------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
发件人: "Romain Manni-Bucau";<rm...@gmail.com>;
发送时间: 2017年11月29日(星期三) 下午3:11
收件人: "general@incubator.apache.org"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
主题: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Hi Mick
I'm generally +1 and would be very happy to help but before voting can
you clarify the position with other donations like
https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 please?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
2017-11-29 7:58 GMT+01:00 mck <mc...@apache.org>:
> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>
> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
>
> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
> the OpenTracing initiative.
>
> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
> be most welcomed.
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
> ----
>
> = Abstract =
> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
> streaming module.
>
> = Proposal =
> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> in APM field.
>
> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
>
> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
> collector for analysing and persistence.
> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
>
> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
>
> = Background =
> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
>
> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
> then.
>
> = Rationale =
> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
> cost.
> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
> and altering.
> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
>
> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
>
> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
>
> = Initial Goals =
> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
> Apache git repository.
>
> = Current Status =
> == Meritocracy ==
> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
> them.
> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
>
> == Community ==
> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
> www.suixingpay.com.
>
> == Core Developers ==
> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> developers and team leaders.
> * PMC members –
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> * Committer Team members –
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>
> == Known Risks ==
> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
> product use cases are all from China.
> === Language and Culture ===
> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
>
> == Orphaned products ==
> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
>
> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
>
> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
> The confirmed contributors list:
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors.
> As mentioned above in the Community section.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
>
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
> Cassandra.
>
> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
>
> == Documentation ==
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
>
> == Initial Source ==
> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
> These have existed as separate git repositories.
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
>
> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
> from all committers and PMC.
>
> == External Dependencies ==
> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
> * netty (Apache 2.0)
> * guava (Apache 2.0)
> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
> * junit (MPL)
> * mockito (MIT)
> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
> * gson (Apache 2.0)
> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
> * vis (Apache 2.0)
> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
> * animate.css (MIT)
> * jquery (js.foundation)
> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
> * jsView (MIT)
> * metisMenu (MIT)
> * d3 (BSD-3)
> * echarts (BSD-3)
> * DataTables (MIT)
> * requirejs (MIT)
> * vue (MIT)
>
> = Required Resources =
> == Mailing Lists ==
> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>
> == Git Repositories ==
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
>
> == Issue Tracking ==
> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
>
> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>
> == Initial Committer ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
>
> = Champion =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>
> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
>
> = Mentors =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
>
> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> lot.
>
> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mick
I'm generally +1 and would be very happy to help but before voting can
you clarify the position with other donations like
https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/50 please?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
2017-11-29 7:58 GMT+01:00 mck <mc...@apache.org>:
> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>
> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
>
> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
> the OpenTracing initiative.
>
> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
> be most welcomed.
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
> ----
>
> = Abstract =
> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
> streaming module.
>
> = Proposal =
> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> in APM field.
>
> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
>
> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
> collector for analysing and persistence.
> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
>
> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
>
> = Background =
> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
>
> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
> then.
>
> = Rationale =
> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
> cost.
> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
> and altering.
> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
>
> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
>
> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
>
> = Initial Goals =
> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
> Apache git repository.
>
> = Current Status =
> == Meritocracy ==
> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
> them.
> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
>
> == Community ==
> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
> www.suixingpay.com.
>
> == Core Developers ==
> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> developers and team leaders.
> * PMC members –
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> * Committer Team members –
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>
> == Known Risks ==
> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
> product use cases are all from China.
> === Language and Culture ===
> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
>
> == Orphaned products ==
> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
>
> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
>
> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
> The confirmed contributors list:
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors.
> As mentioned above in the Community section.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
>
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
> Cassandra.
>
> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
>
> == Documentation ==
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
>
> == Initial Source ==
> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
> These have existed as separate git repositories.
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
>
> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
> from all committers and PMC.
>
> == External Dependencies ==
> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
> * netty (Apache 2.0)
> * guava (Apache 2.0)
> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
> * junit (MPL)
> * mockito (MIT)
> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
> * gson (Apache 2.0)
> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
> * vis (Apache 2.0)
> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
> * animate.css (MIT)
> * jquery (js.foundation)
> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
> * jsView (MIT)
> * metisMenu (MIT)
> * d3 (BSD-3)
> * echarts (BSD-3)
> * DataTables (MIT)
> * requirejs (MIT)
> * vue (MIT)
>
> = Required Resources =
> == Mailing Lists ==
> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>
> == Git Repositories ==
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
>
> == Issue Tracking ==
> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
>
> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>
> == Initial Committer ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
>
> = Champion =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>
> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
>
> = Mentors =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
>
> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> lot.
>
> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:53 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Mick,
>
> A few comments below.
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:58 AM mck <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>>
>> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
>>
>> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
>> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
>> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
>> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
>> the OpenTracing initiative.
>>
>> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
>> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
>> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
>> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
>> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
>> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
>> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
>> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
>> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
>> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
>> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
>> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
>> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
>> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
>> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
>> be most welcomed.
>>
>> regards,
>> Mick
>>
>> ----
>>
>> = Abstract =
>> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
>> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
>> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
>> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
>> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
>> streaming module.
>>
>> = Proposal =
>> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
>> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
>> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
>> in APM field.
>>
>
> Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not provide
> an ICLA?
>
I believe this question is still outstanding. Does anyone have any answers
on this?
>
>
>>
>> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
>> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
>> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
>> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
>> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
>>
>>
> While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from
> companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from
> individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this project.
>
>
>
>> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
>> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
>> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
>> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
>> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
>> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
>> collector for analysing and persistence.
>> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
>>
>> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
>>
>> = Background =
>> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
>> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
>> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
>> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
>> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
>> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
>> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
>> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
>>
>> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
>> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
>> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
>> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
>> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
>> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
>> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
>> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
>> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
>> then.
>>
>> = Rationale =
>> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
>> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
>> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
>> cost.
>> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
>> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
>> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
>> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
>> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
>> and altering.
>> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
>> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
>>
>> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
>> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
>> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
>> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
>> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
>> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
>>
>> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
>> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
>> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
>> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
>> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
>> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
>> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
>> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
>> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
>>
>> = Initial Goals =
>> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
>> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
>> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
>> Apache git repository.
>>
>> = Current Status =
>> == Meritocracy ==
>> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
>> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
>> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
>> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
>> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
>> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
>> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
>> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
>> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
>> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
>> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
>> them.
>> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
>> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
>>
>> == Community ==
>> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
>> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
>> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
>> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
>> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
>> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
>> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
>> www.suixingpay.com.
>>
>> == Core Developers ==
>> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
>> developers and team leaders.
>> * PMC members –
>>
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
>> * Committer Team members –
>>
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>
>
> Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names in
> english.
>
>
>>
>>
>> == Known Risks ==
>> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
>> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
>> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
>> product use cases are all from China.
>> === Language and Culture ===
>> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
>> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
>> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
>> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
>> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
>> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
>> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
>> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
>> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
>> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
>> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
>> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
>>
>
> Where have concerns over language challenges been raised?
>
>
>>
>> == Orphaned products ==
>> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
>> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
>> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
>> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
>> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
>>
>> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
>> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
>> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
>> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
>>
>> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
>> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
>> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
>>
>> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
>> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
>>
>> == Homogenous Developers ==
>> The confirmed contributors list:
>>
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors
>> .
>> As mentioned above in the Community section.
>>
>> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
>> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
>> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
>> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
>> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
>> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
>> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
>> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
>>
>> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
>> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
>> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
>> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
>> Cassandra.
>>
>> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
>> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
>> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
>> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
>> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
>> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
>>
>> == Documentation ==
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
>>
>> == Initial Source ==
>> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
>> These have existed as separate git repositories.
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
>> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
>>
>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
>> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
>> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
>> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
>> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
>> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
>> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
>> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
>> from all committers and PMC.
>>
>> == External Dependencies ==
>> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
>> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
>> * netty (Apache 2.0)
>> * guava (Apache 2.0)
>> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
>> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
>> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
>> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
>> * junit (MPL)
>> * mockito (MIT)
>> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
>> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
>> * gson (Apache 2.0)
>> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
>> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
>> * vis (Apache 2.0)
>> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
>> * animate.css (MIT)
>> * jquery (js.foundation)
>> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
>> * jsView (MIT)
>> * metisMenu (MIT)
>> * d3 (BSD-3)
>> * echarts (BSD-3)
>> * DataTables (MIT)
>> * requirejs (MIT)
>> * vue (MIT)
>>
>> = Required Resources =
>> == Mailing Lists ==
>> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
>> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> == Git Repositories ==
>> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
>> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
>>
>>
> The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is
> something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're already
> using github.
>
>
>> == Issue Tracking ==
>> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
>> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
>> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
>>
>> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
>> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
>> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
>> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>>
>> == Initial Committer ==
>> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
>> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
>> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
>> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
>> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
>> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
>> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
>> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
>> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
>>
>
>
> These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
> accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
> explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
>
> Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
> committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
>
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
>
>
>>
>> = Champion =
>> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>>
>> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
>> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
>>
>> = Mentors =
>> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
>> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
>>
>> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
>> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
>> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
>> lot.
>>
>> == Sponsoring Entity ==
>> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by mck <mc...@apache.org>.
> > > > = Proposal =
> > > > The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> > > > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> > > > developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> > > > order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source
> > community
> > > > in APM field.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> > > If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> > > provide an ICLA?
> >
> >
> > I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
> > ICLA from contributors.
> > Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
> > all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
> > of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
> >
>
>
> Sorry, just saw this.
>
> I don't believe that is correct. Is the organization a legal entity? I
> would strongly recommend going the ICLA route. Do all files in the
> repository have the copyright claim "Copyright 2017, OpenSkywalking
> Organization All rights reserved." ?
>
- I do not think the organization is a legal entity registered
anywhere. (Sheng?)
- The following vote was performed in the community to provide some (ad
hoc) formalisation of the organization and Sheng's ability to sign for
it. https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/14
- All files have the copyright claim "Copyright 2017, OpenSkywalking
Organization All rights reserved." (there's a few exceptions at the top
level, but as is normal for what i see in apache projects…)
- It's planned that all the contributors shall sign and submit an ICLA,
in addition to Sheng signing and submitting the SGA.
Will this suffice John?
regards,
Mick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:13 AM mck <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> John, thanks for the time and input. My replies are inline.
>
>
> > > = Proposal =
> > > The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> > > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> > > developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> > > order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source
> community
> > > in APM field.
> > >
> >
> > Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> > If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> > provide an ICLA?
>
>
> I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
> ICLA from contributors.
> Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
> all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
> of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
>
Sorry, just saw this.
I don't believe that is correct. Is the organization a legal entity? I
would strongly recommend going the ICLA route. Do all files in the
repository have the copyright claim "Copyright 2017, OpenSkywalking
Organization All rights reserved." ?
>
>
> > > This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> > > ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the
> OpenSkywalking
> > > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> > > through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> > > Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> > > dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
> > >
> > >
> > While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from
> > companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from
> > individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this
> > project.
>
>
> The language here has been corrected.
> That companies have been behind *individuals* is information provided
> separately in the "Affiliations" section.
> Is it a problem in the other places it is mention in the proposal?
>
>
>
> > > == Core Developers ==
> > > The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> > > developers and team leaders.
> > > * PMC members –
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> > > * Committer Team members –
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
> >
> >
> > Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names
> > in english.
>
>
> The PMC section is removed. And all names in english, with the name in
> chinese following.
> It's also been pointed out the english names should appear in the "from"
> field in emails sent to the list.
>
>
>
> > > === Language and Culture ===
> > > Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> > > for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> > > shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> > > through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> > > commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> > > The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> > > community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> > > The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a
> multilingual
> > > world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> > > to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> > > translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> > > gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
> > >
> >
> > Where have concerns over language challenges been raised?
>
>
> This was in private chat and a zoom video call between Sheng and myself.
> So it's not a documented event.
> Sheng, maybe you also had similar conversations also with Luke?
>
>
>
> > > == Git Repositories ==
> > > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> > > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
> > >
> > >
> > The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is
> > something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're
> > already using github.
>
>
> Thanks for this info!
> This is desired. The proposal has been updated.
>
>
> > > == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> > > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> > >
> > > == Initial Committer ==
> > > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> > > * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> > > * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> > > * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> > > * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> > > * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> > > * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> > > * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
> > >
> >
> >
> > These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
> > accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
> > explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
> >
> > Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
> > committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
>
>
> Correct. These were intended as PPMC, not IPMC.
> The two separate lists here have been replaced with just the one
> "committor" list.
>
>
> > I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> > usernames?
>
>
> No. They were github usernames. They've been replaced with email
> addresses.
>
>
> regards,
> Mick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu...@foxmail.com>.
> This was in private chat and a zoom video call between Sheng and myself.
> So it's not a documented event.
> Sheng, maybe you also had similar conversations also with Luke?
Mick,
Yes, I and Luke talked about this too.
John,
Mick and I wrote down this section, because some of our committers have concern and been shy about their own English. Our mentors and I will help them. And hope English speakers have patiences for them, and feel free to communicate with us and contribute for SkyWalking. We will try our best.
------------------
Sheng Wu
SkyWalking
------------------ Original ------------------
From: "mck";<mc...@apache.org>;
Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 07:13 PM
To: "general"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
John, thanks for the time and input. My replies are inline.
> > = Proposal =
> > The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> > developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> > order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> > in APM field.
> >
>
> Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> provide an ICLA?
I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
ICLA from contributors.
Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
> > This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> > ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> > through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> > Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> > dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
> >
> >
> While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from
> companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from
> individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this
> project.
The language here has been corrected.
That companies have been behind *individuals* is information provided
separately in the "Affiliations" section.
Is it a problem in the other places it is mention in the proposal?
> > == Core Developers ==
> > The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> > developers and team leaders.
> > * PMC members –
> >
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> > * Committer Team members –
> >
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>
>
> Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names
> in english.
The PMC section is removed. And all names in english, with the name in
chinese following.
It's also been pointed out the english names should appear in the "from"
field in emails sent to the list.
> > === Language and Culture ===
> > Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> > for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> > shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> > through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> > commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> > The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> > community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> > The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> > world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> > to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> > translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> > gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
> >
>
> Where have concerns over language challenges been raised?
This was in private chat and a zoom video call between Sheng and myself.
So it's not a documented event.
Sheng, maybe you also had similar conversations also with Luke?
> > == Git Repositories ==
> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
> >
> >
> The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is
> something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're
> already using github.
Thanks for this info!
This is desired. The proposal has been updated.
> > == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> >
> > == Initial Committer ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> > * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> > * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> > * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> > * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> > * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> > * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> > * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
> >
>
>
> These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
> accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
> explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
>
> Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
> committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
Correct. These were intended as PPMC, not IPMC.
The two separate lists here have been replaced with just the one
"committor" list.
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
No. They were github usernames. They've been replaced with email
addresses.
regards,
Mick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu...@foxmail.com>.
The vote is almost finished. All OpenSkywalking members and Initial Committers agree that. Thanks to Mick's guidances and helps.
------------------
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SkyWalking
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From: "mck";<mc...@apache.org>;
Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 07:20 PM
To: "general"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
> >
> > Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> > If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> > provide an ICLA?
>
>
> I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
> ICLA from contributors.
> Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
> all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
> of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
This has been done here:
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/14
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by mck <mc...@apache.org>.
> >
> > Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> > If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> > provide an ICLA?
>
>
> I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
> ICLA from contributors.
> Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
> all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
> of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
This has been done here:
https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/14
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by mck <mc...@apache.org>.
John, thanks for the time and input. My replies are inline.
> > = Proposal =
> > The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> > developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> > order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> > in APM field.
> >
>
> Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
> If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not
> provide an ICLA?
I gone through this wil Sheng. An SGA will be provided as well as an
ICLA from contributors.
Sheng will bring this up with the community and seek confirmation from
all the committors there, including that he shall be the representative
of the 'OpenSkywalking Organization' to sign the SGA.
> > This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> > ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> > through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> > Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> > dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
> >
> >
> While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from
> companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from
> individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this
> project.
The language here has been corrected.
That companies have been behind *individuals* is information provided
separately in the "Affiliations" section.
Is it a problem in the other places it is mention in the proposal?
> > == Core Developers ==
> > The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> > developers and team leaders.
> > * PMC members –
> >
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> > * Committer Team members –
> >
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
>
>
> Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names
> in english.
The PMC section is removed. And all names in english, with the name in
chinese following.
It's also been pointed out the english names should appear in the "from"
field in emails sent to the list.
> > === Language and Culture ===
> > Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> > for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> > shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> > through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> > commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> > The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> > community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> > The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> > world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> > to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> > translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> > gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
> >
>
> Where have concerns over language challenges been raised?
This was in private chat and a zoom video call between Sheng and myself.
So it's not a documented event.
Sheng, maybe you also had similar conversations also with Luke?
> > == Git Repositories ==
> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
> >
> >
> The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is
> something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're
> already using github.
Thanks for this info!
This is desired. The proposal has been updated.
> > == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> >
> > == Initial Committer ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> > * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> > * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> > * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> > * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> > * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> > * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> > * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
> >
>
>
> These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
> accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
> explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
>
> Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
> committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
Correct. These were intended as PPMC, not IPMC.
The two separate lists here have been replaced with just the one
"committor" list.
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
No. They were github usernames. They've been replaced with email
addresses.
regards,
Mick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
There's should only one list for initial committers.
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
> >
> > == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> >
> > == Initial Committer ==
> > * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> > * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> > * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> > * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> > * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> > * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> > * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> > * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> > * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> > * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
> >
>
>
> These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
> accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
> explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
>
> Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
> committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
>
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
>
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I just updated the committer information and added affiliation section for
it.
Initial Committer
-
Sheng Wu, 吴晟, wusheng6@huawei.com
-
Yongsheng Peng, 彭勇升, pengys@tydic.com
-
Xin Zhang, 张鑫, zhangxin@oneapm.com
-
Hongtao Gao, 高洪涛, gaohongtao@dangdang.com
-
Yang Bai, 柏杨, jixian.by@cainiao.com
-
Kai Wang, 王凯, wangkia01@dangdang.com
-
Yuntao Li, 李运涛, liyuntao@huawei.com
-
Sheng Wang, 汪盛, marco.wang@huawei.com
-
Dongxue Si, 司冬雪, ilucky.si@cloudwise.com
-
Kewei Zhang, 张科伟, zhang_kw@suixingpay.com
Affiliations
- Huawei: Sheng Wu, Yuntao Li, Sheng Wang
- Tydic: Yongsheng Peng
- OneAPM: Xin Zhang
- dangdang.com: Hongtao Gao, Kai Wang
- Alibaba Cainiao: Yang Bai
- Cloudwise: Dongxue Si
- suixingpay.com: Kewei Zhang
Willem Jiang
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You should replace these with mail addresss, not GitHub accounts.
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:16 PM, 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @ in front, represents the GitHub account name of each contributor. That
> > is an easy way for us to link and mention someone in github.
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
You should replace these with mail addresss, not GitHub accounts.
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:16 PM, 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com> wrote:
> @ in front, represents the GitHub account name of each contributor. That
> is an easy way for us to link and mention someone in github.
>
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by 吴晟 <wu...@foxmail.com>.
@ in front, represents the GitHub account name of each contributor. That is an easy way for us to link and mention someone in github.
---Original---
From: "Ted Dunning"<te...@gmail.com>
Date: 2017/11/30 00:20:08
To: "general@incubator.apache.org"<ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
I think it is a Chinese convention for marking user names, similar to the
Twitter convention. A quick check shows that these are not twitter handles,
but do appear in Chinese discussion lists.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:58 AM mck <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> >
> > Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
> >
> > ...
>
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
>
>
> >
> > = Champion =
> > * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> >
> > Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
> >
> > = Mentors =
> > * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> > * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> > * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
> >
> > Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> > proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> > members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> > lot.
> >
> > == Sponsoring Entity ==
> > We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
I think it is a Chinese convention for marking user names, similar to the
Twitter convention. A quick check shows that these are not twitter handles,
but do appear in Chinese discussion lists.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:58 AM mck <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> >
> > Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
> >
> > ...
>
> I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
> usernames?
>
>
> >
> > = Champion =
> > * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> >
> > Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> > https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
> >
> > = Mentors =
> > * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> > * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> > * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
> >
> > Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> > proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> > members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> > lot.
> >
> > == Sponsoring Entity ==
> > We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] SkyWalking - proposal for Apache Incubation
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi Mick,
A few comments below.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:58 AM mck <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>
> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal
>
> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic
> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This
> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing
> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and
> the OpenTracing initiative.
>
> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal
> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these
> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has
> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub
> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have
> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met
> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation
> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and
> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an
> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person
> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai.
> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from
> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise
> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any
> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will
> be most welcomed.
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
> ----
>
> = Abstract =
> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for
> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems.
> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way
> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of
> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency
> streaming module.
>
> = Proposal =
> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing
> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in
> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community
> in APM field.
>
Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors?
If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not provide
an ICLA?
>
> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years
> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project
> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor).
>
>
While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from
companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from
individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this project.
> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking
> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content,
> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache
> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub
> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include:
> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and
> collector for analysing and persistence.
> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM
>
> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11
>
> = Background =
> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are
> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like
> application loggings, can provide less information because of the
> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper
> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems
> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made
> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by
> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization.
>
> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture
> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and
> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the
> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase
> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x
> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to
> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more
> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team.
> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since
> then.
>
> = Rationale =
> Skywalking includes these primary parts:
> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and
> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory
> cost.
> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP
> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK.
> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`,
> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the
> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics,
> and altering.
> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of
> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting.
>
> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations.
> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing
> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs
> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about
> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng
> Wu, is the member of these organizations,
>
> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping
> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being
> easy and transparent to maintain and modify.
> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel
> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open
> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral
> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes,
> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is
> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone.
>
> = Initial Goals =
> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most
> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating
> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an
> Apache git repository.
>
> = Current Status =
> == Meritocracy ==
> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟
> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in
> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many
> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed
> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them.
> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become
> a member of PMC and Committer Team.
> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud
> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads
> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly
> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for
> them.
> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is
> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute.
>
> == Community ==
> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com,
> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the
> project and also used it in product, also provide many important
> feedbacks from their actual scenarios.
> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from
> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group,
> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and
> www.suixingpay.com.
>
> == Core Developers ==
> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source
> developers and team leaders.
> * PMC members –
>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc
> * Committer Team members –
>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team
Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names in
english.
>
>
> == Known Risks ==
> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more
> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a
> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed
> product use cases are all from China.
> === Language and Culture ===
> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical
> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be
> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked
> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The
> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests.
> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The
> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so.
> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual
> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able
> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for
> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a
> gentler and inclusive community is fostered.
>
Where have concerns over language challenges been raised?
>
> == Orphaned products ==
> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a
> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g.
> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own
> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any
> signs of orphaned or abandoned code.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has
> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification,
> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh,
> apache/incubator-rocketmq.
>
> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of
> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and
> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014.
>
> The project are following these two experienced open source people's
> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
> The confirmed contributors list:
>
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors
> .
> As mentioned above in the Community section.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by
> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute
> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one
> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are
> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only.
> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive
> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have
> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected.
>
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper,
> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all
> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase,
> Cassandra.
>
> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive.
> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The
> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing
> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will
> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF.
>
> == Documentation ==
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki
>
> == Initial Source ==
> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI.
> These have existed as separate git repositories.
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking
> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui
>
> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking
> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache
> Foundation. There is no legal issue.
> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright
> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking
> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining
> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs)
> from all committers and PMC.
>
> == External Dependencies ==
> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0)
> * gRPC (Apache 2.0)
> * netty (Apache 2.0)
> * guava (Apache 2.0)
> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0)
> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0)
> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0)
> * disruptor (Apache 2.0)
> * junit (MPL)
> * mockito (MIT)
> * powermock (Apache 2.0)
> * Spring (Apache 2.0)
> * gson (Apache 2.0)
> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0)
> * log4j (Apache 2.0)
> * vis (Apache 2.0)
> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0)
> * animate.css (MIT)
> * jquery (js.foundation)
> * jquery-ui (js.foundation)
> * jsView (MIT)
> * metisMenu (MIT)
> * d3 (BSD-3)
> * echarts (BSD-3)
> * DataTables (MIT)
> * requirejs (MIT)
> * vue (MIT)
>
> = Required Resources =
> == Mailing Lists ==
> * private@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions)
> * commits@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * dev@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> * user@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
>
> == Git Repositories ==
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git
> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git
>
>
The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is
something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're already
using github.
> == Issue Tracking ==
> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking.
> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub
> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this.
>
> == Initial Incubator PMC ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
>
> == Initial Committer ==
> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng
> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng
> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae
> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily
> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang
> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219
> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu
> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid
> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi
> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei
>
These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot
accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much
explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way.
Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial
committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here?
I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF
usernames?
>
> = Champion =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
>
> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion.
> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12
>
> = Mentors =
> * Michael Semb Wever, mck@apache.org
> * Luke Han, lukehan@apache.org
> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningjiang@apache.org
>
> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this
> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache
> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a
> lot.
>
> == Sponsoring Entity ==
> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
>
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