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Posted to dev@manifoldcf.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2012/05/01 11:16:37 UTC

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
> with that?

* Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.

* As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
stick with that policy going forward.

* As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.

> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
> on the resolution itself?

You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
consensus otherwise.

>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for transferring
>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or indexes,
>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce source
>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;

This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?

For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
to evolve.

>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting target
>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>        at no charge to the public.

This should also be updated as discussed above.

PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
to TLP.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Five binding +1 votes, two mentors included, no -1's, >72 hours.  Vote passes!

Karl


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Shinichiro Abe
<sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 from me :)
>
> Shinichiro Abe
>
> On 2012/05/01, at 21:18, Karl Wright wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
>> ManifoldCF top-level project.
>>
>> Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
>> resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
>> that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
>> including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
>> changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
>> else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
>>
>> ======
>>       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>       of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>       establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>       maintenance of open-source software for transferring content between
>>       repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>>
>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>       (PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and hereby is
>>       established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
>>       transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for distribution
>>       at no charge to the public.
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and hereby
>>       is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>>       of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
>>       Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>       projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
>>       Project; and be it further
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>       appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
>>       Project:
>>
>>        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
>>        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
>>        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
>>       * Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
>>        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
>>        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
>>        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
>>        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
>>
>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
>>       appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
>>       accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
>>       and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
>>       removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>>       it further
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>>       development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project; and
>>       be it further
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>       tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
>>       ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
>>
>>       RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>       ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
>>       hereafter discharged.
>> ======
>>
>> +1 from me.
>>
>> Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>>>> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>>>> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>>>> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>>>> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>>>> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>>>> with that?
>>>
>>> * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.
>>>
>>> * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
>>> committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
>>> makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
>>> before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
>>> would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
>>> stick with that policy going forward.
>>>
>>> * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
>>> whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
>>> and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
>>> to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>>>
>>>>  Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>>>> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>>>> on the resolution itself?
>>>
>>> You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
>>> I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
>>> vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
>>> consensus otherwise.
>>>
>>>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>>>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>>>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>>>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for transferring
>>>>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or indexes,
>>>>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce source
>>>>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>>>
>>> This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>>>
>>> For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
>>> content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
>>> this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
>>> outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
>>> to evolve.
>>>
>>>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>>>>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>>>>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting target
>>>>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>>>>        at no charge to the public.
>>>
>>> This should also be updated as discussed above.
>>>
>>> PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
>>> ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
>>> to TLP.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jukka Zitting
>

Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Shinichiro Abe <sh...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me :)

Shinichiro Abe

On 2012/05/01, at 21:18, Karl Wright wrote:

> Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
> ManifoldCF top-level project.
> 
> Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
> resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
> that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
> including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
> changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
> else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
> 
> ======
> 	WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> 	of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> 	establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> 	maintenance of open-source software for transferring content between
> 	repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to the public;
> 	
> 	NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> 	(PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and hereby is
> 	established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> 	responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
> 	transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for distribution
> 	at no charge to the public.
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and hereby
> 	is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> 	of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
> 	Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> 	projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
> 	Project; and be it further
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> 	appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
> 	Project:
> 	
>        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
>        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
>        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
> 	* Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
>        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
>        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
>        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
>        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
> 	
> 	NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
> 	appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
> 	accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
> 	and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
> 	removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
> 	it further
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> 	tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> 	development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project; and
> 	be it further
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> 	tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> 	ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
> 	
> 	RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> 	ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> 	hereafter discharged.
> ======
> 
> +1 from me.
> 
> Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
> Karl
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>>> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>>> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>>> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>>> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>>> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>>> with that?
>> 
>> * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.
>> 
>> * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
>> committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
>> makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
>> before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
>> would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
>> stick with that policy going forward.
>> 
>> * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
>> whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
>> and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
>> to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>> 
>>>  Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>>> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>>> on the resolution itself?
>> 
>> You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
>> I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
>> vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
>> consensus otherwise.
>> 
>>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for transferring
>>>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or indexes,
>>>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce source
>>>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>> 
>> This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>> 
>> For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
>> content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
>> this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
>> outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
>> to evolve.
>> 
>>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>>>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>>>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting target
>>>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>>>        at no charge to the public.
>> 
>> This should also be updated as discussed above.
>> 
>> PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
>> ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
>> to TLP.
>> 
>> BR,
>> 
>> Jukka Zitting


Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Feroz Zahid <fe...@gmail.com>.
+1 from my side.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
> Tommaso
>
> 2012/5/2 Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
>
>> +1
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>>
>> 1.5.2012 14.18 "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>> >
>> > Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
>> > ManifoldCF top-level project.
>> >
>> > Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
>> > resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
>> > that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
>> > including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
>> > changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
>> > else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
>> >
>> > ======
>> >        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests
>> >        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>> >        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
>> and
>> >        maintenance of open-source software for transferring content
>> between
>> >        repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to
>> the public;
>> >
>> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee
>> >        (PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and
>> hereby is
>> >        established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
>> further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>> >        responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>> software for
>> >        transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for
>> distribution
>> >        at no charge to the public.
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and
>> hereby
>> >        is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction
>> >        of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
>> >        Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> >        projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
>> ManifoldCF
>> >        Project; and be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
>> are
>> >        appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
>> >        Project:
>> >
>> >        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
>> >        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
>> >        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
>> >        * Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
>> >        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
>> >        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
>> >        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
>> >        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
>> >
>> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
>> >        appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
>> >        accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
>> Directors
>> >        and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
>> retirement,
>> >        removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
>> and be
>> >        it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
>> is
>> >        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage
>> open
>> >        development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project;
>> and
>> >        be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
>> is
>> >        tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> Incubator
>> >        ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator
>> >        ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
>> >        hereafter discharged.
>> > ======
>> >
>> > +1 from me.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
>> > Karl
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>> > >> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>> > >> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>> > >> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>> > >> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>> > >> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>> > >> with that?
>> > >
>> > > * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the
>> scope below.
>> > >
>> > > * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
>> > > committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
>> > > makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
>> > > before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
>> > > would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
>> > > stick with that policy going forward.
>> > >
>> > > * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
>> > > whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
>> > > and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
>> > > to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>> > >
>> > >> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>> > >> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>> > >> on the resolution itself?
>> > >
>> > > You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
>> > > I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
>> > > vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
>> > > consensus otherwise.
>> > >
>> > >>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests
>> > >>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose
>> to
>> > >>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
>> creation and
>> > >>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for
>> transferring
>> > >>        content from source content repositories to target repositories
>> or indexes,
>> > >>        including a security model permitting target repositories to
>> enforce source
>> > >>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the
>> public;
>> > >
>> > > This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>> > >
>> > > For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
>> > > content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
>> > > this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
>> > > outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
>> > > to evolve.
>> > >
>> > >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>> > >>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> providing a
>> > >>        framework for transferring content from source content
>> repositories to
>> > >>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model
>> permitting target
>> > >>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for
>> distribution
>> > >>        at no charge to the public.
>> > >
>> > > This should also be updated as discussed above.
>> > >
>> > > PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
>> > > ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
>> > > to TLP.
>> > >
>> > > BR,
>> > >
>> > > Jukka Zitting
>>



-- 
--
Feroz Zahid

Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
+1
Tommaso

2012/5/2 Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>

> +1
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
> 1.5.2012 14.18 "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
> >
> > Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
> > ManifoldCF top-level project.
> >
> > Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
> > resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
> > that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
> > including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
> > changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
> > else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
> >
> > ======
> >        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests
> >        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
> and
> >        maintenance of open-source software for transferring content
> between
> >        repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to
> the public;
> >
> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee
> >        (PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and
> hereby is
> >        established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
> further
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> >        responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
> software for
> >        transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for
> distribution
> >        at no charge to the public.
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and
> hereby
> >        is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction
> >        of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
> >        Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> >        projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
> ManifoldCF
> >        Project; and be it further
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
> are
> >        appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
> >        Project:
> >
> >        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
> >        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
> >        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
> >        * Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
> >        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
> >        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
> >        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
> >        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
> >
> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
> >        appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
> >        accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> Directors
> >        and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
> retirement,
> >        removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
> and be
> >        it further
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
> is
> >        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage
> open
> >        development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project;
> and
> >        be it further
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
> is
> >        tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator
> >        ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
> >
> >        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator
> >        ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> >        hereafter discharged.
> > ======
> >
> > +1 from me.
> >
> > Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
> > >> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
> > >> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
> > >> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
> > >> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
> > >> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
> > >> with that?
> > >
> > > * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the
> scope below.
> > >
> > > * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> > > committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> > > makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> > > before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> > > would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> > > stick with that policy going forward.
> > >
> > > * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> > > whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> > > and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> > > to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
> > >
> > >> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
> > >> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
> > >> on the resolution itself?
> > >
> > > You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> > > I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> > > vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> > > consensus otherwise.
> > >
> > >>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests
> > >>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose
> to
> > >>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
> creation and
> > >>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for
> transferring
> > >>        content from source content repositories to target repositories
> or indexes,
> > >>        including a security model permitting target repositories to
> enforce source
> > >>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the
> public;
> > >
> > > This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
> > >
> > > For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> > > content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> > > this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> > > outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> > > to evolve.
> > >
> > >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> > >>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> providing a
> > >>        framework for transferring content from source content
> repositories to
> > >>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model
> permitting target
> > >>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for
> distribution
> > >>        at no charge to the public.
> > >
> > > This should also be updated as discussed above.
> > >
> > > PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> > > ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> > > to TLP.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > >
> > > Jukka Zitting
>

Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
+1

Jukka Zitting

1.5.2012 14.18 "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>
> Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
> ManifoldCF top-level project.
>
> Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
> resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
> that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
> including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
> changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
> else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
>
> ======
>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests
>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
and
>        maintenance of open-source software for transferring content
between
>        repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to
the public;
>
>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>        (PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and
hereby is
>        established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
software for
>        transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for
distribution
>        at no charge to the public.
>
>        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and
hereby
>        is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction
>        of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
>        Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>        projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
ManifoldCF
>        Project; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
are
>        appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
>        Project:
>
>        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
>        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
>        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
>        * Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
>        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
>        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
>        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
>        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
>
>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
>        appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
>        accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
Directors
>        and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
retirement,
>        removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
and be
>        it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
is
>        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage
open
>        development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project;
and
>        be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
is
>        tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator
>        ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
Incubator
>        ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
>        hereafter discharged.
> ======
>
> +1 from me.
>
> Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
> Karl
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
> >> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
> >> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
> >> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
> >> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
> >> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
> >> with that?
> >
> > * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the
scope below.
> >
> > * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> > committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> > makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> > before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> > would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> > stick with that policy going forward.
> >
> > * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> > whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> > and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> > to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
> >
> >> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
> >> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
> >> on the resolution itself?
> >
> > You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> > I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> > vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> > consensus otherwise.
> >
> >>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests
> >>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose
to
> >>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
creation and
> >>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for
transferring
> >>        content from source content repositories to target repositories
or indexes,
> >>        including a security model permitting target repositories to
enforce source
> >>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the
public;
> >
> > This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
> >
> > For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> > content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> > this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> > outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> > to evolve.
> >
> >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> >>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
providing a
> >>        framework for transferring content from source content
repositories to
> >>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model
permitting target
> >>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for
distribution
> >>        at no charge to the public.
> >
> > This should also be updated as discussed above.
> >
> > PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> > ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> > to TLP.
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting

Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Piergiorgio Lucidi <pi...@apache.org>.
+1 from me :)

Piergiorgio

2012/5/1 Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>

> Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
> ManifoldCF top-level project.
>
> Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
> resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
> that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
> including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
> changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
> else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).
>
> ======
>         WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests
>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
> and
>         maintenance of open-source software for transferring content
> between
>        repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to
> the public;
>
>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>        (PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and
> hereby is
>        established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>         responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
> software for
>        transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for
> distribution
>         at no charge to the public.
>
>         RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and
> hereby
>        is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>        of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
>        Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>        projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
>        Project; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
> are
>        appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
>        Project:
>
>        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
>        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
>         * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
>        * Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
>         * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
>        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
>        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
>        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
>
>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
>         appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
>        accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> Directors
>        and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
> retirement,
>        removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and
> be
>        it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
> is
>        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage
> open
>        development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project;
> and
>        be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
> is
>        tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator
>        ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>        ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
>        hereafter discharged.
> ======
>
> +1 from me.
>
> Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
> Karl
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
> >> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
> >> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
> >> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
> >> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
> >> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
> >> with that?
> >
> > * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope
> below.
> >
> > * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> > committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> > makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> > before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> > would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> > stick with that policy going forward.
> >
> > * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> > whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> > and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> > to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
> >
> >> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
> >> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
> >> on the resolution itself?
> >
> > You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> > I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> > vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> > consensus otherwise.
> >
> >>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests
> >>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
> creation and
> >>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for
> transferring
> >>        content from source content repositories to target repositories
> or indexes,
> >>        including a security model permitting target repositories to
> enforce source
> >>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
> >
> > This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
> >
> > For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> > content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> > this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> > outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> > to evolve.
> >
> >>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
> >>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> providing a
> >>        framework for transferring content from source content
> repositories to
> >>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model
> permitting target
> >>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for
> distribution
> >>        at no charge to the public.
> >
> > This should also be updated as discussed above.
> >
> > PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> > ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> > to TLP.
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
>
> --
> Piergiorgio Lucidi
> http://www.open4dev.com
>
>

[VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
ManifoldCF top-level project.

Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).

======
	WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
	of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
	establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
	maintenance of open-source software for transferring content between
	repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to the public;
	
	NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
	(PMC), to be known as the "Apache ManifoldCF Project", be and hereby is
	established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
	
	RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
	responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
	transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for distribution
	at no charge to the public.
	
	RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, ManifoldCF" be and hereby
	is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
	of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
	Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
	projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
	Project; and be it further
	
	RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
	appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
	Project:
	
        * Shinichiro Abe     (shinichiro@apache.org)
        * Erlend Garåsen    (ridder@apache.org)
        * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergiorgio@apache.org)
	* Hitoshi Ozawa      (hozawa@apache.org)
        * Tommaso Teofili   (tommaso@apache.org)
        * Simon Willnauer    (simonw@apache.org)
        * Karl Wright          (kwright@apache.org)
        * Jukka Zitting       (jukka@apache.org)
	
	NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
	appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
	accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
	and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
	removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
	it further
	
	RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
	tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
	development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project; and
	be it further
	
	RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
	tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
	ManifoldCF podling; and be it further
	
	RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
	ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
	hereafter discharged.
======

+1 from me.

Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
Karl


On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>> with that?
>
> * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.
>
> * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> stick with that policy going forward.
>
> * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>
>> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>> on the resolution itself?
>
> You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> consensus otherwise.
>
>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for transferring
>>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or indexes,
>>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce source
>>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>
> This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>
> For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> to evolve.
>
>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting target
>>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>>        at no charge to the public.
>
> This should also be updated as discussed above.
>
> PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> to TLP.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Seems reasonable; I'll revise the resolution accordingly and put it up
for a vote over the next couple of hours.

Thanks!
Karl

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>> with that?
>
> * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.
>
> * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> stick with that policy going forward.
>
> * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>
>> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>> on the resolution itself?
>
> You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> consensus otherwise.
>
>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for transferring
>>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or indexes,
>>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce source
>>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>
> This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>
> For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> to evolve.
>
>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting target
>>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>>        at no charge to the public.
>
> This should also be updated as discussed above.
>
> PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> to TLP.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting