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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> on 2013/03/14 15:22:19 UTC
[DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Dear community,
I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
announcements to.
It is important that we provide high signal channels through which people
can discover project status.
I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested in
participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs to
put their own release machinery into gear.
If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
the list.
Thanks,
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Joe,
It would be for release announcements and security announcements only.
The meet-ups/events thing is another problem... ;)
On 14 March 2013 17:12, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 09:22 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> > Dear community,
> >
> > I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> > announcements to.
>
> Will we limit it to release and security/high-priority bugfix
> announcements, or will we also use it for events, etc.?
>
> There's some question of where we should send event announcements to, if
> any. Do people on -dev, for instance, want to see an email about a
> regional meetup?
>
> > If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> > the list.
>
> I'm +1 and also willing to help moderate the list. I'm assuming this
> list would only allow postings that are moderated (e.g., subscribers
> cannot send email to the list without moderation, so we don't get
> replies to announcements).
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Looks like we have lazy consensus here.
With our graduation looming, I will wait a little while before requesting
the list.
On 14 March 2013 22:43, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
> Yep great idea, concur on everything so far (not for events). If you need
> yet another mod, add me. :)
>
> John
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > (Sorry, and yes, moderation only. Thanks. I'll put you down as a mod.)
> >
> >
> > On 14 March 2013 17:12, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 09:22 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> >>> Dear community,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> >>>
> >>> The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> >>> announcements to.
> >>
> >> Will we limit it to release and security/high-priority bugfix
> >> announcements, or will we also use it for events, etc.?
> >>
> >> There's some question of where we should send event announcements to, if
> >> any. Do people on -dev, for instance, want to see an email about a
> >> regional meetup?
> >>
> >>> If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and
> establish
> >>> the list.
> >>
> >> I'm +1 and also willing to help moderate the list. I'm assuming this
> >> list would only allow postings that are moderated (e.g., subscribers
> >> cannot send email to the list without moderation, so we don't get
> >> replies to announcements).
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> jzb
> >> --
> >> Joe Brockmeier
> >> jzb@zonker.net
> >> Twitter: @jzb
> >> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
> Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
> o: 415.315.9385
> @johnlkinsella
>
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
Yep great idea, concur on everything so far (not for events). If you need yet another mod, add me. :)
John
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> (Sorry, and yes, moderation only. Thanks. I'll put you down as a mod.)
>
>
> On 14 March 2013 17:12, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 09:22 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>> Dear community,
>>>
>>> I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
>>>
>>> The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
>>> announcements to.
>>
>> Will we limit it to release and security/high-priority bugfix
>> announcements, or will we also use it for events, etc.?
>>
>> There's some question of where we should send event announcements to, if
>> any. Do people on -dev, for instance, want to see an email about a
>> regional meetup?
>>
>>> If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
>>> the list.
>>
>> I'm +1 and also willing to help moderate the list. I'm assuming this
>> list would only allow postings that are moderated (e.g., subscribers
>> cannot send email to the list without moderation, so we don't get
>> replies to announcements).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> NS
Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
o: 415.315.9385
@johnlkinsella
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
(Sorry, and yes, moderation only. Thanks. I'll put you down as a mod.)
On 14 March 2013 17:12, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 09:22 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> > Dear community,
> >
> > I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> > announcements to.
>
> Will we limit it to release and security/high-priority bugfix
> announcements, or will we also use it for events, etc.?
>
> There's some question of where we should send event announcements to, if
> any. Do people on -dev, for instance, want to see an email about a
> regional meetup?
>
> > If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> > the list.
>
> I'm +1 and also willing to help moderate the list. I'm assuming this
> list would only allow postings that are moderated (e.g., subscribers
> cannot send email to the list without moderation, so we don't get
> replies to announcements).
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 09:22 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
>
> The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> announcements to.
Will we limit it to release and security/high-priority bugfix
announcements, or will we also use it for events, etc.?
There's some question of where we should send event announcements to, if
any. Do people on -dev, for instance, want to see an email about a
regional meetup?
> If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> the list.
I'm +1 and also willing to help moderate the list. I'm assuming this
list would only allow postings that are moderated (e.g., subscribers
cannot send email to the list without moderation, so we don't get
replies to announcements).
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>.
+1
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
>
> The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> announcements to.
>
> It is important that we provide high signal channels through which people
> can discover project status.
>
> I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested in
> participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
> releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs to
> put their own release machinery into gear.
>
> If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:38:24PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> Daniel Shahaf asks us if we plan to make a release before graduation. If
> yes, I suspect we ought to create this now. If not, let's wait.
Unknown. We have 4.0.2 and a 4.1.0 working towards a release right now.
We also have our graduation vote (timing as laid out in the update email
from earlier) ongoing. If we do happen to make it into the board
meeting next week, then we won't be making a release before then. If we
have to wait for next month's board meeting, then we *hope* that we will
release before then.
>
>
> On 14 March 2013 14:34, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chip Childers
> > <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> > >> We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is
> > automated.
> > >> So why wait?
> > >
> > > I wasn't aware that it was automated, so I guess we don't have a reason
> > > to wait.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, virtually all of the infrastructure-related graduation tasks are
> > completely automated now (as is mailing list creation)
> >
> > --David
> >
>
>
>
> --
> NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:44 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> That really depends on whether our resolution gets in front of the board
> this month or next. 4.0.2 is pretty close, and 4.1.0 would probably ship
> before the April board meeting.
Following up on the conversation in IRC.
Perhaps waiting to see if we appear on the agenda for next weeks board
meeting is in order.
It's only a few days delay and likely to tell us which method is more apropos.
--David
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
That really depends on whether our resolution gets in front of the board
this month or next. 4.0.2 is pretty close, and 4.1.0 would probably ship
before the April board meeting.
On Mar 14, 2013 9:38 AM, "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Daniel Shahaf asks us if we plan to make a release before graduation. If
> yes, I suspect we ought to create this now. If not, let's wait.
>
>
> On 14 March 2013 14:34, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chip Childers
> > <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> > >> We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is
> > automated.
> > >> So why wait?
> > >
> > > I wasn't aware that it was automated, so I guess we don't have a reason
> > > to wait.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, virtually all of the infrastructure-related graduation tasks are
> > completely automated now (as is mailing list creation)
> >
> > --David
> >
>
>
>
> --
> NS
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Daniel Shahaf asks us if we plan to make a release before graduation. If
yes, I suspect we ought to create this now. If not, let's wait.
On 14 March 2013 14:34, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chip Childers
> <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> >> We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is
> automated.
> >> So why wait?
> >
> > I wasn't aware that it was automated, so I guess we don't have a reason
> > to wait.
> >
>
> Yeah, virtually all of the infrastructure-related graduation tasks are
> completely automated now (as is mailing list creation)
>
> --David
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chip Childers
<ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
>> We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is automated.
>> So why wait?
>
> I wasn't aware that it was automated, so I guess we don't have a reason
> to wait.
>
Yeah, virtually all of the infrastructure-related graduation tasks are
completely automated now (as is mailing list creation)
--David
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is automated.
> So why wait?
I wasn't aware that it was automated, so I guess we don't have a reason
to wait.
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
We're gonna have to do that anyway, and I believe the process is automated.
So why wait?
On 14 March 2013 14:26, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:24:13AM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > Dear community,
> > >
> > > I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> > >
> > > The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> > > announcements to.
> > >
> > > It is important that we provide high signal channels through which
> people
> > > can discover project status.
> > >
> > > I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested
> in
> > > participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
> > > releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs
> to
> > > put their own release machinery into gear.
> > >
> > > If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and
> establish
> > > the list.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > NS
> >
> > +1 - release and security announcements certainly need a low volume
> channel.
> >
> > Happy to be a mod on that list if you need additional.
> >
> > --David
> >
>
> +1 - However I would suggest that we may want to hold off on actually
> creating the list right now. Since we are going through the graduation
> process, we'll end up having to move from @i.a.o to @cloudstack.a.o for
> our list addresses as part of the transition. Do you think waiting
> might make sense here?
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:24:13AM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Dear community,
> >
> > I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> > announcements to.
> >
> > It is important that we provide high signal channels through which people
> > can discover project status.
> >
> > I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested in
> > participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
> > releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs to
> > put their own release machinery into gear.
> >
> > If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> > the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
> +1 - release and security announcements certainly need a low volume channel.
>
> Happy to be a mod on that list if you need additional.
>
> --David
>
+1 - However I would suggest that we may want to hold off on actually
creating the list right now. Since we are going through the graduation
process, we'll end up having to move from @i.a.o to @cloudstack.a.o for
our list addresses as part of the transition. Do you think waiting
might make sense here?
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:27:17PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> P.S. Thanks, David!
I'm also happy to mod the list.
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
P.S. Thanks, David!
On 14 March 2013 14:24, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Dear community,
> >
> > I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
> >
> > The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> > announcements to.
> >
> > It is important that we provide high signal channels through which people
> > can discover project status.
> >
> > I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested in
> > participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
> > releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs to
> > put their own release machinery into gear.
> >
> > If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> > the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
> +1 - release and security announcements certainly need a low volume
> channel.
>
> Happy to be a mod on that list if you need additional.
>
> --David
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> I would like to establish the cloudstack-announce mailing list.
>
> The primary purpose of this mailing list will be to post release
> announcements to.
>
> It is important that we provide high signal channels through which people
> can discover project status.
>
> I have two use cases in mind. Firstly, the user who is not interested in
> participating on the mailing lists, and just wants to know about new
> releases. Secondly, a downstream packager, or third party, that needs to
> put their own release machinery into gear.
>
> If nobody objects in 72 hours, I will assume lazy consensus and establish
> the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> NS
+1 - release and security announcements certainly need a low volume channel.
Happy to be a mod on that list if you need additional.
--David