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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org> on 2008/10/14 16:06:01 UTC
JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Any JIRA admins here?
There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs
against. But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release
notes" this is causing confusion.
Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so
perhaps "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Simon here, it is confusing to mix the tomahawk as it sandbox
as they are not the same thing in my opinion. If they were, they should be
released together... and the sandbox is not meant to be released. It is
confusing to see that "this issue is fixed" when it does not appear in a
released version. Is that or not using release notes as well, as I guess
having release notes on a component basis can be trickier?
Bruno
2008/10/15 Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>
> The problem is that Leonardo generates the release-notes for Tomahawk using
> a JIRA report. And this appears to be standard practice for many myfaces
> projects.
>
> So issues related to the sandbox then get listed in the Tomahawk "release
> notes". This confuses users, particularly when a new feature is added to
> sandbox and it looks like that new feature got added to tomahawk. They then
> wonder why they can't find it (see emails yesterday in the user list).
>
> So either JIRA issues need to be filed against sandbox, or the
> release-notes need to be created in some other way. I think filing jira
> issues against sandbox is likely to be the most popular choice. It also
> feels to me personally like the *right* choice, particularly as sandbox
> components now often get "promoted" into myfaces-commons-* projects rather
> than tomahawk.
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
> Manfred Geiler schrieb:
>
> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
>> not see the problem here.
>> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
>> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>>
>> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
>>
>> --Manfred
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any JIRA admins here?
>>>
>>> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
>>> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
>>> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this
>>> is
>>> causing confusion.
>>>
>>> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so
>>> perhaps
>>> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Hazem Saleh <ha...@apache.org>.
Just a side note, we did not decide yet whether MyFaces commons will contain
a components' module or not. If yes then it will contains components that
does not have UI else the components will be promoted to Tomahawk.
I have a list of components (that have UI) that I will add soon to MyFaces
Tomahawk sandbox, and I think if they are promoted then the right place for
them will be Tomahawk.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>wrote:
> The problem is that Leonardo generates the release-notes for Tomahawk using
> a JIRA report. And this appears to be standard practice for many myfaces
> projects.
>
> So issues related to the sandbox then get listed in the Tomahawk "release
> notes". This confuses users, particularly when a new feature is added to
> sandbox and it looks like that new feature got added to tomahawk. They then
> wonder why they can't find it (see emails yesterday in the user list).
>
> So either JIRA issues need to be filed against sandbox, or the
> release-notes need to be created in some other way. I think filing jira
> issues against sandbox is likely to be the most popular choice. It also
> feels to me personally like the *right* choice, particularly as sandbox
> components now often get "promoted" into myfaces-commons-* projects rather
> than tomahawk.
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
> Manfred Geiler schrieb:
>
> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
>> not see the problem here.
>> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
>> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>>
>> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
>>
>> --Manfred
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any JIRA admins here?
>>>
>>> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
>>> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
>>> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this
>>> is
>>> causing confusion.
>>>
>>> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so
>>> perhaps
>>> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>.
The problem is that Leonardo generates the release-notes for Tomahawk
using a JIRA report. And this appears to be standard practice for many
myfaces projects.
So issues related to the sandbox then get listed in the Tomahawk
"release notes". This confuses users, particularly when a new feature is
added to sandbox and it looks like that new feature got added to
tomahawk. They then wonder why they can't find it (see emails yesterday
in the user list).
So either JIRA issues need to be filed against sandbox, or the
release-notes need to be created in some other way. I think filing jira
issues against sandbox is likely to be the most popular choice. It also
feels to me personally like the *right* choice, particularly as sandbox
components now often get "promoted" into myfaces-commons-* projects
rather than tomahawk.
Regards,
Simon
Manfred Geiler schrieb:
> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
> not see the problem here.
> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>
> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
>
> --Manfred
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Any JIRA admins here?
>>
>> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
>> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
>> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this is
>> causing confusion.
>>
>> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so perhaps
>> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
>>
>> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Manfred Geiler
<ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
>>> not see the problem here.
>>> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
>>> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>>>
>>> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
>>
>> for tomahawk, right ?
>> +1 on that
>
> you mean +1 for my -1 ?
> Wow!
> :-)
>
> That's like:
> "I am against being in favor"
> or:
> "I am in favor of being against"
>
> Which is actually the same. Is it? Hmm. Very philosophical... :-)
I was just supporting your -1 :-)
Now we are nominated for the philosophic nobel price... ? :-)
>
> --Manfred
>
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Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
>> not see the problem here.
>> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
>> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>>
>> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
>
> for tomahawk, right ?
> +1 on that
you mean +1 for my -1 ?
Wow!
:-)
That's like:
"I am against being in favor"
or:
"I am in favor of being against"
Which is actually the same. Is it? Hmm. Very philosophical... :-)
--Manfred
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
> not see the problem here.
> Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
> regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
>
> -1 for a new Jira project(!)
for tomahawk, right ?
+1 on that
myfaces-commons is missing.
Not sure if your -1 is also for not adding a commons project
>
> --Manfred
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Any JIRA admins here?
>>
>> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
>> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
>> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this is
>> causing confusion.
>>
>> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so perhaps
>> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
>>
>> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>>
>>
>
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Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org>.
But Sandbox IS a part of Tomahawk and not a single project, so I do
not see the problem here.
Sandbox issues SHOULD be filed using TOMAHAWK and - of course - the
regarding component ("SubForm", "PPRPanelGroup", ...).
-1 for a new Jira project(!)
--Manfred
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> Any JIRA admins here?
>
> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this is
> causing confusion.
>
> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so perhaps
> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
>
> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>
>
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> This also demands a project site under
> >> "http://myfaces.apache.org/commons" and a Commons logo of course. Any
> >> volunteers? ;-)
>
> Just saw that there IS already a site under
> http://myfaces.apache.org/commons/
> Cool!
> What's just missing is the menu entry on the main MyFaces page.
>
There is a link to commons in:
http://myfaces.apache.org/otherProjects.html
so you can reach it from home page -> others -> myfaces commons.
+1 for a separate JIRA for myfaces commons.
regards
Leonardo Uribe
>
> --Manfred
>
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Manfred Geiler <ma...@apache.org>.
>> This also demands a project site under
>> "http://myfaces.apache.org/commons" and a Commons logo of course. Any
>> volunteers? ;-)
Just saw that there IS already a site under http://myfaces.apache.org/commons/
Cool!
What's just missing is the menu entry on the main MyFaces page.
--Manfred
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
+1
2008/10/14 Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Volker Weber <v....@inexso.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2008/10/14 Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>:
> >> Any JIRA admins here?
> >>
> >> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
> >> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs
> against.
> >> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes"
> this is
> >> causing confusion.
> >
> > a Myfaces-Commons is also missing.
>
> Other than "Tomahawk Sandbox" the "MyFaces Commons" is a standalone
> project under the MyFaces umbrella. So a Jira project makes sense
> here.
> This also demands a project site under
> "http://myfaces.apache.org/commons" and a Commons logo of course. Any
> volunteers? ;-)
>
> If everyone is ok with it, I will create the Jira project for "MyFaces
> Commons" with the Jira-ID "MFCOMMONS".
>
> --Manfred
>
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Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Volker Weber <v....@inexso.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2008/10/14 Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>:
>> Any JIRA admins here?
>>
>> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
>> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
>> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this is
>> causing confusion.
>
> a Myfaces-Commons is also missing.
Other than "Tomahawk Sandbox" the "MyFaces Commons" is a standalone
project under the MyFaces umbrella. So a Jira project makes sense
here.
This also demands a project site under
"http://myfaces.apache.org/commons" and a Commons logo of course. Any
volunteers? ;-)
If everyone is ok with it, I will create the Jira project for "MyFaces
Commons" with the Jira-ID "MFCOMMONS".
--Manfred
Re: JIRA: project entry needed for sandbox
Posted by Volker Weber <v....@inexso.de>.
Hi,
2008/10/14 Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>:
> Any JIRA admins here?
>
> There currently is no JIRA project defined for the myfaces sandbox. It
> appears that people have simply been using TOMAHAWK to file bugs against.
> But as recent releases has used a jira report as the "release notes" this is
> causing confusion.
a Myfaces-Commons is also missing.
>
> Can someone please create it? The name SANDBOX is already taken, so perhaps
> "MF-SANDBOX" or similar could be used.
Myfaces-(Tomahawk-)Sandbox ?
all other has the "Myfaces-" prefix.
>
> Perhaps we should file a jira issue to create the new project? :-)
>
>
Regards,
Volker
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