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Posted to apachecon-discuss@apache.org by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> on 2012/05/30 14:05:39 UTC
Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Hi All
I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear
it may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so
here goes again!
There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference
we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big
tracks (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one
setup and some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do
we want to do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we
want to do one track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller
ones around it? What things (if any) do we want to put on in the
evening? What things might we want to try in Portland next year, which
we should be attempting to test/pilot in Europe?
(Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
which to run the CFP)
For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources
for attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much
near the venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is.
We also want to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby
people could be looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!)
they'd be looking at for public transport. We may also want to look at
hiring something nearby that's cheap for people to stay in (especially
TAC funded attendees, committers who are paying for themselves etc).
It'd be good to know what options there might be (hostels, church halls
etc). For now, I'd suggest we start capturing this sort of information
on the wiki[1], and we can worry about if that's the best place or not
later!
Cheers
Nick
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Steve Holden <st...@holdenweb.com>.
I'm wondering, given the involvement of a corporation that likely has the technical chops to pull it off, whether we might propose some sort of video link-up if we can find synchronized slots in the schedules.
Unless there's a definite benefit to ApacheCon EU attendees then it's just another fine idea, but if we might offer delegates a genuine service (like making WJAX livestream video available) then it might be worth looking into.
How valuable would any kind of parallel access to WJAX be?
regards
Steve
On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:00 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On 31.05.12 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Ross Gardler
>> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>> ...I think there is a need to define what this
>>> conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
>>> etc.
>> ...
>>
>> And it would be good to clearly differentiate with
>> http://jax.de/wjax2012/speaker/
>>
>> Their tagline is "a conference for Java, Architecture, Agile and
>> Cloud" - maybe those of us who are familiar with that conference can
>> help steer ours so that it's clearly different instead of competing on
>> the same topics (or maybe at least competing on the same topics on the
>> same days, see http://jax.de/wjax2012/specialdays/ ).
>
> WJAX is the sister conference to its big brother JAX (taking place each Spring) and some other JAX events around the world. I've never been to WJAX, but attended JAX for some years now as a speaker. (WJAX organizers also edit JavaMagazin, where I'm writing a monthly Apache-project-focused column.)
>
> JAX is huge, with as much as 12 parallel sessions at a time for 3 days, plus workshops on Mon + Fri. This can be overwhelming. WJAX has a similar setup with 8 parallel session. So it should be about 2/3 the size of JAX.
>
> The foremost difference to ApacheCon is that WJAX is a German-speaking conference all over the place. Only keynotes and few sessions are in english. In this regard, it is not a European conference. You'll find not many french, spanish or even swiss people there. Let alone british.
>
> Attendees are mostly folks having to deal with "enterprise software", in the sense that they often work for banks, telcos, car manifacturers, so the conference pretty much covers what these people are interested in. You won't find that many university students or people from very small companies there, also because of the price tag.
>
> New hot topics will eventually come to WJAX, like BigData this year. Niche technologies like Lucene are only a niche at (W)JAX.
>
> This also means that open source is seen very pragmatic at (W)JAX. If some software is Open Source, that's ok as long as it solves their problems.
>
> Speakers are competent and familiar with the topic, but not neccessarily mega-deep into it. I've done two Hadoop talks at JAX, not being a committer for any of the Hadoop projects. At BerlinBuzzwords this week there were Hadoop committers all over the place - so I didn't need to do a talk and could just listen, learn and meet. (bbuzz was great, by the way!)
>
> So, when needing to contrast with WJAX, I would probably tag ApacheCon EU like this:
> + pan-european
> + "meet the committers"
> + all the latest and greatest hot stuff from our projects
> + open source excellence
>
> In the sense of Leslie Hawthorns great BBuzz keynote (see also https://twitter.com/bdelacretaz/status/209612024244748288 ), we could try to forster community in that projects are given the opportunity to present their top five JIRA issues they need to tackle and the top five issues suited for new contributors.
>
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Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>.
On 31.05.12 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Ross Gardler
> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>> ...I think there is a need to define what this
>> conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
>> etc.
> ...
>
> And it would be good to clearly differentiate with
> http://jax.de/wjax2012/speaker/
>
> Their tagline is "a conference for Java, Architecture, Agile and
> Cloud" - maybe those of us who are familiar with that conference can
> help steer ours so that it's clearly different instead of competing on
> the same topics (or maybe at least competing on the same topics on the
> same days, see http://jax.de/wjax2012/specialdays/ ).
WJAX is the sister conference to its big brother JAX (taking place each
Spring) and some other JAX events around the world. I've never been to
WJAX, but attended JAX for some years now as a speaker. (WJAX organizers
also edit JavaMagazin, where I'm writing a monthly
Apache-project-focused column.)
JAX is huge, with as much as 12 parallel sessions at a time for 3 days,
plus workshops on Mon + Fri. This can be overwhelming. WJAX has a
similar setup with 8 parallel session. So it should be about 2/3 the
size of JAX.
The foremost difference to ApacheCon is that WJAX is a German-speaking
conference all over the place. Only keynotes and few sessions are in
english. In this regard, it is not a European conference. You'll find
not many french, spanish or even swiss people there. Let alone british.
Attendees are mostly folks having to deal with "enterprise software", in
the sense that they often work for banks, telcos, car manifacturers, so
the conference pretty much covers what these people are interested in.
You won't find that many university students or people from very small
companies there, also because of the price tag.
New hot topics will eventually come to WJAX, like BigData this year.
Niche technologies like Lucene are only a niche at (W)JAX.
This also means that open source is seen very pragmatic at (W)JAX. If
some software is Open Source, that's ok as long as it solves their problems.
Speakers are competent and familiar with the topic, but not neccessarily
mega-deep into it. I've done two Hadoop talks at JAX, not being a
committer for any of the Hadoop projects. At BerlinBuzzwords this week
there were Hadoop committers all over the place - so I didn't need to do
a talk and could just listen, learn and meet. (bbuzz was great, by the way!)
So, when needing to contrast with WJAX, I would probably tag ApacheCon
EU like this:
+ pan-european
+ "meet the committers"
+ all the latest and greatest hot stuff from our projects
+ open source excellence
In the sense of Leslie Hawthorns great BBuzz keynote (see also
https://twitter.com/bdelacretaz/status/209612024244748288 ), we could
try to forster community in that projects are given the opportunity to
present their top five JIRA issues they need to tackle and the top five
issues suited for new contributors.
Bernd
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> And it would be good to clearly differentiate with
> http://jax.de/wjax2012/speaker/
>
> Their tagline is "a conference for Java, Architecture, Agile and
> Cloud" - maybe those of us who are familiar with that conference can
> help steer ours so that it's clearly different instead of competing on
> the same topics (or maybe at least competing on the same topics on the
> same days, see http://jax.de/wjax2012/specialdays/ ).
As far as I can see they concentrate on JEE with some flavors of
JavaFX, Spring and a little Agile/Architects Buzz. Some topics touch
core Java.
I can see only less specific on some products. A little Hadoop, but
not really extensive.
I cannot imagine we compete too much with their current agenda as long
as we center around our products.
Cheers
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> ...I think there is a need to define what this
> conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
> etc.
...
And it would be good to clearly differentiate with
http://jax.de/wjax2012/speaker/
Their tagline is "a conference for Java, Architecture, Agile and
Cloud" - maybe those of us who are familiar with that conference can
help steer ours so that it's clearly different instead of competing on
the same topics (or maybe at least competing on the same topics on the
same days, see http://jax.de/wjax2012/specialdays/ ).
-Bertrand
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:13 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ross Gardler
> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> > In addition to the items below I think there is a need to define what
> this
> > conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
> > etc.
> >
> > How many people are we trying to attract, what profile etc.
> >
> > There's not much time, we don't yet have any real clarity about what the
> > event is. Without a vision for the event it is hard to think about
> > concrete plans.
> >
>
> Agree - I'd suggest we make this a committer/developer-focused conference.
>
Well, let's just say 'developer' and not qualify it in order to narrow our
audience. We'll need the requisite 'Apache Way' vibe to thread everywhere,
ubiquitously...if we don't do that, shame on us.
:)
>
> --David
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> In addition to the items below I think there is a need to define what this
> conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
> etc.
>
> How many people are we trying to attract, what profile etc.
>
> There's not much time, we don't yet have any real clarity about what the
> event is. Without a vision for the event it is hard to think about
> concrete plans.
>
Agree - I'd suggest we make this a committer/developer-focused conference.
--David
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
In addition to the items below I think there is a need to define what this
conference is. Is it a developer conference, a user conference, a hacker
etc.
How many people are we trying to attract, what profile etc.
There's not much time, we don't yet have any real clarity about what the
event is. Without a vision for the event it is hard to think about
concrete plans.
In the past we've always had problems trying to be all things to all
people. This is one not the problems within organising the conference by
committee, it simply gets watered down to the lowest common denominator.
The ASF brand is strong enough for a lowest common denominator event to be
successful, however we can do better.
In my view, in order to do better job we need someone to make a few firm
statements and provide some solid guidance about what tracks should look
like and what they should contain. This programme chair should hold the
power of veto over any abstracts that look poor and be willing to work with
track chairs on fine tuning their tracks.
Is this something we want to do for ApacheCon EU? If so who will provide
this driving force?
Ross
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 30, 2012 1:06 PM, "Nick Burch" <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference
> we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to
> do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
>
> (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
> which to run the CFP)
>
> For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources for
> attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much near
> the venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also
> want to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people could
> be looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be looking
> at for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something
> nearby that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded attendees,
> committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know what
> options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd suggest we
> start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
> about if that's the best place or not later!
>
> Cheers
> Nick
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/**apachecon/<http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/>
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 05/30/2012 05:18 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> Of course we could also add a track (1 day) about EE technologies: TomEE, OpenWebBeans, MyFaces, BVal, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, etc
>
>
> There is currently a discussion over at openejb-dev about doing a TomEE hackaton at ApacheCon EU
+1
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Of course we could also add a track (1 day) about EE technologies: TomEE, OpenWebBeans, MyFaces, BVal, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, etc
There is currently a discussion over at openejb-dev about doing a TomEE hackaton at ApacheCon EU
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
>> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
>> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so
> here
>> goes again!
>>
>> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
>> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>>
>> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we
>> want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
>> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
>> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to
> do
>> a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
>> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
>> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
>> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
>> test/pilot in Europe?
>
> Besides the already proposed OpenOffice track, we should consider the
> Hadoop operating system ;-)
> Hadoop is big in germany. If we would have two bigger tracks, one open
> office hacking, one hadoop + cloud,.
> Then two smaller, probably an enterprise track with Camel et al and
> for example a Tooling track.
>
>
>
>> (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
> which
>> to run the CFP)
>>
>> For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources for
>> attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much
> near the
>> venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also
> want
>> to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people could be
>> looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be looking
> at
>> for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something nearby
>> that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded attendees,
>> committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know
> what
>> options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd
> suggest we
>> start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
>> about if that's the best place or not later!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Nick
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides the already proposed OpenOffice track, we should consider the
> Hadoop operating system ;-)
> Hadoop is big in germany. If we would have two bigger tracks, one open
> office hacking, one hadoop + cloud,.
> Then two smaller, probably an enterprise track with Camel et al and
> for example a Tooling track.
A cloud/big data track (assuming multi-day tracks) could be
interesting - though I am sure that Hadoop and the related ecosystem
(Hbase, Accumulo, etc) could fill their own track, as could
cloud-related stuff like DeltaCloud, libcloud, whirr, etc. but then it
becomes a question of how many groups want to run tracks.
--David
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we
> want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do
> a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
Besides the already proposed OpenOffice track, we should consider the
Hadoop operating system ;-)
Hadoop is big in germany. If we would have two bigger tracks, one open
office hacking, one hadoop + cloud,.
Then two smaller, probably an enterprise track with Camel et al and
for example a Tooling track.
> (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around which
> to run the CFP)
>
> For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources for
> attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much near the
> venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also want
> to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people could be
> looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be looking at
> for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something nearby
> that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded attendees,
> committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know what
> options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd suggest we
> start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
> about if that's the best place or not later!
>
> Cheers
> Nick
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Christine Koppelt <ch...@googlemail.com>.
Hi
As the ASF is an organization where people work in independent
distributed groups I like the idea of having this reflected in the
conference. What about distributing the conference program planning?
My Idea is: groups of at least three committers can come up with a
program proposal for one room for one day. Such proposals could be for
example: a day full of invited talks about semantic web and natural
language processing, an Open Space about the future of the ASF, a
BarCamp about OpenOffice and so on. If there are more proposals than
free slots there should be a public, transparent process for
selection.
There needs to be a small group of organizers who care about
infrastructure (presentation materials, food, maybe keynotes, etc.)
and communication (eg. coordinating the website and a CFP), but the
program is the sole responsibility of the selected groups.
A lot of organizers will also mean high demands on communication,
coordination and preparation, but I think it's manageable.
Kind Regards
Christine
2012/5/30 Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we
> want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do
> a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
>
> (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around which
> to run the CFP)
>
> For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources for
> attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much near the
> venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also want
> to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people could be
> looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be looking at
> for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something nearby
> that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded attendees,
> committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know what
> options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd suggest we
> start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
> about if that's the best place or not later!
>
> Cheers
> Nick
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Tim Williams wrote:
>>
>> I think the idea of encore presentations would be worth exploring.
>> Essentially, add some empty timeslots (or one complete track) for the last
>> day of the conference. On the CFP, ask speakers to indicate if they'd be
>> available for an encore on the last day. Then, figure out a way during the
>> conference to judge encore interests - maybe via twitter?
>
>
> Sounds an interesting idea! Can we put you down as the track chair for this?
> :) If so, one track or two for the Friday?
Sadly, no, I have a hard time justifying the expense - I'll have to
wait for a NA edition:)
--tim
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>.
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Tim Williams wrote:
> I think the idea of encore presentations would be worth exploring.
> Essentially, add some empty timeslots (or one complete track) for the
> last day of the conference. On the CFP, ask speakers to indicate if
> they'd be available for an encore on the last day. Then, figure out a
> way during the conference to judge encore interests - maybe via twitter?
Sounds an interesting idea! Can we put you down as the track chair for
this? :) If so, one track or two for the Friday?
Nick
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we
> want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do
> a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
I think the idea of encore presentations would be worth exploring.
Essentially, add some empty timeslots (or one complete track) for the
last day of the conference. On the CFP, ask speakers to indicate if
they'd be available for an encore on the last day. Then, figure out a
way during the conference to judge encore interests - maybe via
twitter?
Thanks,
--tim
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
+1 to Davids comments.
I'd add that PMCs should be encouraged to come together and create their
own topic related tracks.
Ross
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 30, 2012 2:24 PM, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> > people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear
> it
> > may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> > goes again!
> >
> > There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> > helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
> >
> > On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference
> we
> > want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> > (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> > some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want
> to do
> > a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> > track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> > What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things
> might
> > we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> > test/pilot in Europe?
>
> I'll bite with some ideas:
>
> Disclaimer up front, I haven't been to an ApacheCon before - though I
> have been to scores of other OSS conferences and developer events.
>
> So I think with as diverse a group as ApacheCon attracts and with the
> comparatively limited time available that one or two big tracks are
> not nearly as valuable to everyone as a number of smaller ones.
>
> I'd also be interested in seeing Ignite sessions [1] early on - and
> perhaps a day of BarCamp/(unconference) sessions following that. Or
> perhaps that is something that we do in the evenings. I'd also like to
> see if we can secure hacking spaces at night for folks to work on
> things (particularly nice with $beverage and food availability).
>
> --David
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignite_(event)
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we
> want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do
> a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
I'll bite with some ideas:
Disclaimer up front, I haven't been to an ApacheCon before - though I
have been to scores of other OSS conferences and developer events.
So I think with as diverse a group as ApacheCon attracts and with the
comparatively limited time available that one or two big tracks are
not nearly as valuable to everyone as a number of smaller ones.
I'd also be interested in seeing Ignite sessions [1] early on - and
perhaps a day of BarCamp/(unconference) sessions following that. Or
perhaps that is something that we do in the evenings. I'd also like to
see if we can secure hacking spaces at night for folks to work on
things (particularly nice with $beverage and food availability).
--David
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignite_(event)
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Steve Holden <st...@holdenweb.com>.
I'd like to find some appropriate "clusterings" of incubator and non-incubator projects that make sense in terms of shared interests. This is a helpful step in that direction, so thanks!
regards
Steve
On May 30, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Fabian Christ wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is just a rough idea and I have to admit, that I have never been
> to any ApacheCon so far, yet.
>
> How is the Apache incubator normally represented at those confs? I am
> a member of Apache Stanbol (incubating) and there are quite a number
> of other young projects at Apache around the topic of semantic web and
> natural language processing technologies. I am thinking of OpenNLP,
> Jena, Clerezza. Maybe this would be an interesting track, too.
>
> Best,
> - Fabian
>
> 2012/5/30 jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>:
>> On 05/30/2012 05:18 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2012, at 16:56 , Steve Holden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On May 30, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead
>>>>> of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a
>>>>> lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this
>>>>> way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
>>>>>
>>>> This implies that there is a significant cost to adding speakers. I'd be
>>>> interested to know what you would expect these costs to be …
>>>
>>>
>>> I am assuming that speakers get free access to the conference, which is
>>> what has been the case so far.
>>
>>
>> Yep. More talks means also more work to build the sessions in the tracks and
>> take that all speakers are getting ready. Of course I want to see 5 tracks
>> ;-)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jean-Frederic
>
>
>
> --
> Fabian
> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
--
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Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Lewis John Mcgibbney <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi Guys,
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
>
>> I am a member of Apache Stanbol (incubating) and there are quite a number
>> of other young projects at Apache around the topic of semantic web and
>> natural language processing technologies. I am thinking of OpenNLP, Jena,
>> Clerezza. Maybe this would be an interesting track, too.
>
>
> I think we'd welcome a pitch from a cluster of projects for a semantic web /
> nlp track!
>
We can add Any23 to that list. I will be in attendance at ApacheCon, I
really don't know about others from Jena, OpenNLP, Clerezza...
Lewis
--
Lewis
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>.
On Wed, 30 May 2012, Fabian Christ wrote:
> How is the Apache incubator normally represented at those confs?
It's not normally its own area. Instead, Incubating projects tend to talk
in the tracks for the areas they're in (eg a hadoop related incubating
project would talk in a hadoop/big data track). Additionally, incubating
projects have tended to feature heavily in things like the BarCamp and the
Fast Feather Track
> I am a member of Apache Stanbol (incubating) and there are quite a
> number of other young projects at Apache around the topic of semantic
> web and natural language processing technologies. I am thinking of
> OpenNLP, Jena, Clerezza. Maybe this would be an interesting track, too.
I think we'd welcome a pitch from a cluster of projects for a semantic web
/ nlp track!
Nick
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Fabian Christ <ch...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
this is just a rough idea and I have to admit, that I have never been
to any ApacheCon so far, yet.
How is the Apache incubator normally represented at those confs? I am
a member of Apache Stanbol (incubating) and there are quite a number
of other young projects at Apache around the topic of semantic web and
natural language processing technologies. I am thinking of OpenNLP,
Jena, Clerezza. Maybe this would be an interesting track, too.
Best,
- Fabian
2012/5/30 jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>:
> On 05/30/2012 05:18 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>
>> On May 30, 2012, at 16:56 , Steve Holden wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead
>>>> of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a
>>>> lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this
>>>> way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
>>>>
>>> This implies that there is a significant cost to adding speakers. I'd be
>>> interested to know what you would expect these costs to be …
>>
>>
>> I am assuming that speakers get free access to the conference, which is
>> what has been the case so far.
>
>
> Yep. More talks means also more work to build the sessions in the tracks and
> take that all speakers are getting ready. Of course I want to see 5 tracks
> ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
--
Fabian
http://twitter.com/fctwitt
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 05/30/2012 05:18 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> On May 30, 2012, at 16:56 , Steve Holden wrote:
>> On May 30, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>> For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
>>>
>> This implies that there is a significant cost to adding speakers. I'd be interested to know what you would expect these costs to be …
>
> I am assuming that speakers get free access to the conference, which is what has been the case so far.
Yep. More talks means also more work to build the sessions in the tracks
and take that all speakers are getting ready. Of course I want to see 5
tracks ;-)
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On May 30, 2012, at 16:56 , Steve Holden wrote:
> On May 30, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>> For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
>>
> This implies that there is a significant cost to adding speakers. I'd be interested to know what you would expect these costs to be …
I am assuming that speakers get free access to the conference, which is what has been the case so far.
Greetings, Marcel
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Steve Holden <st...@holdenweb.com>.
On May 30, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> On May 30, 2012, at 14:05 , Nick Burch wrote:
>
>> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it? What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to test/pilot in Europe?
>
> I am in favor of having more smaller tracks, and I'd like to be as diverse as we can, instead of just focussing on a few more popular projects and leaving the rest of them out. Learning about the all the different projects Apache has to offer to me is one of the primary reasons for going to ApacheCon. Also because it encourages people involved in those projects to meet, exchange ideas and work together. The bigger projects have their own, more targeted conferences anyway, so I would not want to give them preferential treatment over the any other projects for ApacheCon.
>
I'd like to see the diversity of the Apache community properly reflected in the Foundation's conferences, so this is good input.
> For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
>
This implies that there is a significant cost to adding speakers. I'd be interested to know what you would expect these costs to be ...
> Greetings, Marcel
>
regards
Steve
--
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Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On May 30, 2012, at 14:05 , Nick Burch wrote:
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it? What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to test/pilot in Europe?
I am in favor of having more smaller tracks, and I'd like to be as diverse as we can, instead of just focussing on a few more popular projects and leaving the rest of them out. Learning about the all the different projects Apache has to offer to me is one of the primary reasons for going to ApacheCon. Also because it encourages people involved in those projects to meet, exchange ideas and work together. The bigger projects have their own, more targeted conferences anyway, so I would not want to give them preferential treatment over the any other projects for ApacheCon.
For the talks, I would even propose to consider doing 30 minute instead of 50-60 minute talks. If structured well, a 30 minute talk can deliver a lot of information already. Downside might be that we need more budget this way (because we end up with more speakers) so that might not be practical!?
Greetings, Marcel
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>wrote:
> +1000 for an AOO track. Note that, assuming we work out a few details AOO
> will have budget to assist with speakers and TAC for AOO related
> activities.
>
Thanks Ross.
Yes, we expect to work through some 'paperwork' and have in hand some
funding for TAC and other minor bits.
>
> Furthermore there are people in the community eager to help with
> organisation, all they need is someone to lead the activity (from behind),
> Don is your man for that and I'm happy to help too (I won't be taking a
> leadership role, but happy to help Don keep it moving).
>
>
I'm planning on combing through my files where I collected the programmes
from OpenOffice.org Conferences Past; i.e. Koper, Barcelona, Orvieto,
Budapest. My idea is not to necessarily replicate the past into the future
here, but more as a reference for what worked, and what was less than hoped
for.
>From my recollection these conference programmes featured keynotes from IT
leaders courageous enough to tackle the challenge of desktop
migrations/co-existence strategies, use cases from education, research
papers on accessibility topics and a spectrum of developer oriented
sessions on the respective components of OpenOffice including
programmability. So I'd say it was 60% developer focused, 40% IT; i.e.
what does it take to successfully manage a large end user population
adopting an open source office productivity application suite.
I'll start a separate thread on my ideas for a dedicated track over on our
ooo-dev list so that we don't overly annoy folks on apachecon-discuss here.
We can work it in the PMC at AOO and return here in a week or so with a
more refined proposal.
Make sense?
> Ross
>
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On May 30, 2012 3:04 PM, "Donald Harbison" <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nick,
> >
> > Thanks for jolting this topic to the top. We certainly can benefit by
> > having a more clear plan by the end of June, before many people will go
> off
> > on their summer holidays.
> >
> > So here goes:
> >
> > I propose that the the Apache OpenOffice project be one of the large
> > projects that can easily fill (1) day worth of sessions, plus generate
> > activity in side sesssions; e.g. hacking, etc. Germany is the epicenter
> for
> > OpenOffice skills since the original team began work in Hamburg over 15
> > years ago. I'm confident we can build an exciting one-day program that
> > will have good participation.
> >
> > OpenOffice.org conferences in the past were entirely volunteer driven
> with
> > corporate sponsorships from the likes of Sun, IBM, Novell, Google, etc.
> > Volunteer teams competed for the honor to host the conference(s). CFPs
> were
> > issued, and selected, etc.
> >
> > We could use the past OpenOffice.org conference structure as a template
> > for modification to harmonize with the larger conference themes that will
> > emerge in this discussion. It would be great to group projects like
> > Chemistry, POI, PDFbox, Tika, ODF Toolkit along the other available time
> > slots since all of these project combined provide value propositions that
> > relate to documents, content management. This might emerge as one of the
> > conference themes. Thoughts?
> >
> > I am happy to volunteer to lead the 'conference within a conference'
> idea,
> > or whatever the ConComm team finalizes as the model for ACE in Sinsheim.
> > There are Apache OpenOffice guys in Hamburg and other places in Germany,
> > Switzerland and Austria. who could help on a local level.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > /don
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> > > people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I
> fear
> > it
> > > may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so
> here
> > > goes again!
> > >
> > > There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> > > helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
> > >
> > > On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of
> conference
> > > we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big
> > tracks
> > > (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup
> and
> > > some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want
> to
> > > do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do
> > one
> > > track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around
> it?
> > > What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things
> > might
> > > we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> > > test/pilot in Europe?
> > >
> > > (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
> > > which to run the CFP)
> > >
> > > For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources
> > for
> > > attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much
> near
> > > the venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We
> also
> > > want to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people
> > could
> > > be looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be
> > looking
> > > at for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something
> > > nearby that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded
> > attendees,
> > > committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know
> what
> > > options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd
> suggest
> > we
> > > start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can
> worry
> > > about if that's the best place or not later!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/**apachecon/<
> > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
+1000 for an AOO track. Note that, assuming we work out a few details AOO
will have budget to assist with speakers and TAC for AOO related activities.
Furthermore there are people in the community eager to help with
organisation, all they need is someone to lead the activity (from behind),
Don is your man for that and I'm happy to help too (I won't be taking a
leadership role, but happy to help Don keep it moving).
Ross
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 30, 2012 3:04 PM, "Donald Harbison" <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Thanks for jolting this topic to the top. We certainly can benefit by
> having a more clear plan by the end of June, before many people will go off
> on their summer holidays.
>
> So here goes:
>
> I propose that the the Apache OpenOffice project be one of the large
> projects that can easily fill (1) day worth of sessions, plus generate
> activity in side sesssions; e.g. hacking, etc. Germany is the epicenter for
> OpenOffice skills since the original team began work in Hamburg over 15
> years ago. I'm confident we can build an exciting one-day program that
> will have good participation.
>
> OpenOffice.org conferences in the past were entirely volunteer driven with
> corporate sponsorships from the likes of Sun, IBM, Novell, Google, etc.
> Volunteer teams competed for the honor to host the conference(s). CFPs were
> issued, and selected, etc.
>
> We could use the past OpenOffice.org conference structure as a template
> for modification to harmonize with the larger conference themes that will
> emerge in this discussion. It would be great to group projects like
> Chemistry, POI, PDFbox, Tika, ODF Toolkit along the other available time
> slots since all of these project combined provide value propositions that
> relate to documents, content management. This might emerge as one of the
> conference themes. Thoughts?
>
> I am happy to volunteer to lead the 'conference within a conference' idea,
> or whatever the ConComm team finalizes as the model for ACE in Sinsheim.
> There are Apache OpenOffice guys in Hamburg and other places in Germany,
> Switzerland and Austria. who could help on a local level.
>
> HTH,
>
> /don
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> > people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear
> it
> > may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> > goes again!
> >
> > There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> > helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
> >
> > On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference
> > we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big
> tracks
> > (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> > some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to
> > do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do
> one
> > track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> > What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things
> might
> > we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> > test/pilot in Europe?
> >
> > (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
> > which to run the CFP)
> >
> > For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources
> for
> > attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much near
> > the venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also
> > want to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people
> could
> > be looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be
> looking
> > at for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something
> > nearby that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded
> attendees,
> > committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know what
> > options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd suggest
> we
> > start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
> > about if that's the best place or not later!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nick
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/**apachecon/<
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/>
> >
>
Re: Things we need to do for ApacheCon EU
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
Nick,
Thanks for jolting this topic to the top. We certainly can benefit by
having a more clear plan by the end of June, before many people will go off
on their summer holidays.
So here goes:
I propose that the the Apache OpenOffice project be one of the large
projects that can easily fill (1) day worth of sessions, plus generate
activity in side sesssions; e.g. hacking, etc. Germany is the epicenter for
OpenOffice skills since the original team began work in Hamburg over 15
years ago. I'm confident we can build an exciting one-day program that
will have good participation.
OpenOffice.org conferences in the past were entirely volunteer driven with
corporate sponsorships from the likes of Sun, IBM, Novell, Google, etc.
Volunteer teams competed for the honor to host the conference(s). CFPs were
issued, and selected, etc.
We could use the past OpenOffice.org conference structure as a template
for modification to harmonize with the larger conference themes that will
emerge in this discussion. It would be great to group projects like
Chemistry, POI, PDFbox, Tika, ODF Toolkit along the other available time
slots since all of these project combined provide value propositions that
relate to documents, content management. This might emerge as one of the
conference themes. Thoughts?
I am happy to volunteer to lead the 'conference within a conference' idea,
or whatever the ConComm team finalizes as the model for ACE in Sinsheim.
There are Apache OpenOffice guys in Hamburg and other places in Germany,
Switzerland and Austria. who could help on a local level.
HTH,
/don
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I did send an email a few weeks ago about the next steps, but as a few
> people have contacted me privately to ask about what needs doing, I fear it
> may have got lost in the noise... Plus it didn't have everything, so here
> goes again!
>
> There are currently several things that anyone can (and needs to be!)
> helping with, and a few bits largely specific to those near the venue.
>
> On the everyone front, we need to decide exactly what kind of conference
> we want to fill this lovely SAP sponsored space with. Do we want big tracks
> (200/300 people), or small ones (5*100), or some days with one setup and
> some days others? What sort of tracks do we want to put on? Do we want to
> do a day or two for certain popular project areas, or do we want to do one
> track for the whole time for a popular area, with smaller ones around it?
> What things (if any) do we want to put on in the evening? What things might
> we want to try in Portland next year, which we should be attempting to
> test/pilot in Europe?
>
> (Once we have answers for these, then we'll have the structure around
> which to run the CFP)
>
> For those in Germany, we need to start putting together some resources for
> attendees, especially around accommodation. I know there isn't much near
> the venue, but it'd be good to get / find a list of what that is. We also
> want to provide information on what bigger towns/cities nearby people could
> be looking at for staying it, and how long (+ how late!) they'd be looking
> at for public transport. We may also want to look at hiring something
> nearby that's cheap for people to stay in (especially TAC funded attendees,
> committers who are paying for themselves etc). It'd be good to know what
> options there might be (hostels, church halls etc). For now, I'd suggest we
> start capturing this sort of information on the wiki[1], and we can worry
> about if that's the best place or not later!
>
> Cheers
> Nick
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/**apachecon/<http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/>
>