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Posted to dev@velocity.apache.org by robert burrell donkin <ro...@mac.com> on 2001/08/27 16:55:06 UTC
does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a future? (Was StringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtil have a future?
IMHO java documentation telling people to write their own replacement
methods implies that StringUtils is pretty much dead.
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 06:24 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On 8/25/01 1:21 PM, "Daniel Rall" <dl...@finemaltcoding.com> wrote:
>
>> robert burrell donkin <ro...@mac.com> writes:
>>
>>> sorry if i'm labouring the point - but why does the deprecation
>>> message refer people to a different class when there are methods in
>>> StringUtils that already do what's wanted?
>>
>> I would prefer people to use that other package. IMO, Velocity should
>> not be a repository housing code available elsewhere.
>
> I agree.
all the code in StringUtils is either available elsewhere or it's very
easy to write (which is basically what the deprecation message tells
people to do).
i don't have any particular problem freezing StingUtil's - it's just that
i'd prefer to know so i don't waste my time preparing patches.
- robert
Re: does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a
future?(WasStringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Daniel Rall wrote:
>
> "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net> writes:
>
> > I think that we should deprecate them out - I don't think they belong
> > here anyway, especially now that we have a useful home in commons. that
> > said, I know Texen depends on them, and we won't screw Texen users -
> > maybe we deprecate, migrate to Commons, and then just include the
> > commons tools in the vel.jar, like we do with log and oro.
>
> If you deprecate, I'll make the necessary changes to Texen.
I guess that's the corollary to the line in "Field of Dreams"? "If you
build it, they will come..."
geir
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Re: does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a future? (WasStringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
"Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net> writes:
> I think that we should deprecate them out - I don't think they belong
> here anyway, especially now that we have a useful home in commons. that
> said, I know Texen depends on them, and we won't screw Texen users -
> maybe we deprecate, migrate to Commons, and then just include the
> commons tools in the vel.jar, like we do with log and oro.
If you deprecate, I'll make the necessary changes to Texen.
Re: does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a future?
(WasStringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@apache.org>.
On 8/27/01 11:31 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net> wrote:
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>>
>> does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtil have a future?
>>
>> IMHO java documentation telling people to write their own replacement
>> methods implies that StringUtils is pretty much dead.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 06:24 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/01 1:21 PM, "Daniel Rall" <dl...@finemaltcoding.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> robert burrell donkin <ro...@mac.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> sorry if i'm labouring the point - but why does the deprecation
>>>>> message refer people to a different class when there are methods in
>>>>> StringUtils that already do what's wanted?
>>>>
>>>> I would prefer people to use that other package. IMO, Velocity should
>>>> not be a repository housing code available elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>
>> all the code in StringUtils is either available elsewhere or it's very
>> easy to write (which is basically what the deprecation message tells
>> people to do).
>>
>> i don't have any particular problem freezing StingUtil's - it's just that
>> i'd prefer to know so i don't waste my time preparing patches.
>
> This is the problem as I see it - and I am not really focused in this
> area -
>
> I think that we should deprecate them out - I don't think they belong
> here anyway, especially now that we have a useful home in commons. that
> said, I know Texen depends on them, and we won't screw Texen users -
> maybe we deprecate, migrate to Commons, and then just include the
> commons tools in the vel.jar, like we do with log and oro.
I'm all for using the commons, but I think we should stop rolling other jars
into the vel jar.
> geir
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Re: does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a future?
(WasStringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtil have a future?
>
> IMHO java documentation telling people to write their own replacement
> methods implies that StringUtils is pretty much dead.
>
> On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 06:24 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> > On 8/25/01 1:21 PM, "Daniel Rall" <dl...@finemaltcoding.com> wrote:
> >
> >> robert burrell donkin <ro...@mac.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> sorry if i'm labouring the point - but why does the deprecation
> >>> message refer people to a different class when there are methods in
> >>> StringUtils that already do what's wanted?
> >>
> >> I would prefer people to use that other package. IMO, Velocity should
> >> not be a repository housing code available elsewhere.
> >
> > I agree.
>
> all the code in StringUtils is either available elsewhere or it's very
> easy to write (which is basically what the deprecation message tells
> people to do).
>
> i don't have any particular problem freezing StingUtil's - it's just that
> i'd prefer to know so i don't waste my time preparing patches.
This is the problem as I see it - and I am not really focused in this
area -
I think that we should deprecate them out - I don't think they belong
here anyway, especially now that we have a useful home in commons. that
said, I know Texen depends on them, and we won't screw Texen users -
maybe we deprecate, migrate to Commons, and then just include the
commons tools in the vel.jar, like we do with log and oro.
geir
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
Well done is better than well said - New England Proverb
Re: does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtils have a future? (Was
StringUtils.removeUnderScores() bug?)
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 8/27/01 7:55 AM, "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> does org.apache.velocity.util.StringUtil have a future?
I would say:
No.
We should be using the commons-util package.
-jon