[OT] someone using Outlook 2003, please tell me it can't be this LAME...

[Rick Reumann <st...@reumann.net>]

Ok, I'm not trying to start an e-mail client war. (I have been using 
Thunderbird as my primary client but do miss some of the features of The 
Bat, but that's not the question I have). At work they've just installed 
Office 2003 so I figured I'd look again at Lookout since I do use it at 
work for the Calendar stuff that I'm forced to use (I can still use 
Thunderbird to get my Exchange server e-mail which is nice). While 
messing with the Outlook e-mail client I can't figure out for the life 
of me how to "sort messages by subject/thread AND by date.. like EVERY 
OTHER client in the world does." If this client can sort like a normal 
client (thunderbird, mozilla, the bat, sylpheed, evolution, kmail, 
pegasus, eudora, poco mail, etc etc) how come it is so difficult to 
figure out how to set it up? I've been messing with these view and 
custom options and still havne't figured it out. I've used both Windows 
and Linux and I actually like Windows for a desktop environment (gasp!) 
but I don't use any of their software other than the OS (I use opera or 
firefox for browsing, thundbird for mail, open office for office stuff). 
I'm really amazed that they could realease an e-mail client that is so 
lame. It's like MS refusing to make IE have tabbed browsing features - 
just stupid - they know people want it but they don't provide it (I 
guess they're afraid to admit that moz/firefox/opera have the right idea.)

Someone tell me how I can get messages sorted correctly in Outlook? I 
want grouped by thread/subject but sorted by received date (preferably a 
  more recent date on an e-mail will simply move the grouped thread up 
or down).

</rant>

-- 
Rick


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Re: [OT] someone using Outlook 2003, please tell me it can't be this LAME...

[Bryce Fischer <br...@berzerker-soft.com>]

M. Bitner wrote:

>Tools->Options->Other->Empty the Deleted Items folder upon exiting doesn't work?
>  
>

Nope. Because with IMAP, there's 2 steps to deleting an email message. 
In Outlook, when you delete a message, it only marks the message for 
deletion. It will still display in your inbox, but with a line through 
it. Unless you Purge Deleted Messages, it will stay in your inbox (just 
marked for deletion).

Therefore, the message never gets into your Deleted Items folder (I have 
my IMAP server setup to move items to the Trash folder when they are 
purged).

Check in the Outlook newsgroups, its a known "issue" with people who use 
Outlook with IMAP. The only response you ever get from Outlook support 
is "you have to manually purge".

>
>On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:43:52 +0800, Big Chiz <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>It cant be, hehehe, of course im just being biased
>>
>>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:24:32 -0400, Bryce Fischer
>><br...@berzerker-soft.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>My big issue with Outlook, is that its support for IMAP leaves a lot to
>>>be desired. With IMAP, deleting is a two part process, marking message
>>>as deleted, and purging. Outlook has no way to automatically purge
>>>deleted messages, and it drives me nuts. Every other IMAP client I have
>>>seen does this. Thunderbird, which I use now, has the option to purge
>>>when you close. Outlook, you have to delete the message, then use a menu
>>>item to purge (or you can put the button on your tool bar). I've gone on
>>>the Outlook newsgroup, and the only response you get is "you need to
>>>purge using the menu item". Funny thing is, Outlook Express has this
>>>feature...
>>>


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Re: [OT] someone using Outlook 2003, please tell me it can't be this LAME...

["M. Bitner" <mo...@gmail.com>]

Tools->Options->Other->Empty the Deleted Items folder upon exiting doesn't work?


On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:43:52 +0800, Big Chiz <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It cant be, hehehe, of course im just being biased
> 
> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:24:32 -0400, Bryce Fischer
> <br...@berzerker-soft.com> wrote:
> > My big issue with Outlook, is that its support for IMAP leaves a lot to
> > be desired. With IMAP, deleting is a two part process, marking message
> > as deleted, and purging. Outlook has no way to automatically purge
> > deleted messages, and it drives me nuts. Every other IMAP client I have
> > seen does this. Thunderbird, which I use now, has the option to purge
> > when you close. Outlook, you have to delete the message, then use a menu
> > item to purge (or you can put the button on your tool bar). I've gone on
> > the Outlook newsgroup, and the only response you get is "you need to
> > purge using the menu item". Funny thing is, Outlook Express has this
> > feature...
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] someone using Outlook 2003, please tell me it can't be this LAME...

[Big Chiz <bi...@gmail.com>]

It cant be, hehehe, of course im just being biased


On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:24:32 -0400, Bryce Fischer
<br...@berzerker-soft.com> wrote:
> My big issue with Outlook, is that its support for IMAP leaves a lot to
> be desired. With IMAP, deleting is a two part process, marking message
> as deleted, and purging. Outlook has no way to automatically purge
> deleted messages, and it drives me nuts. Every other IMAP client I have
> seen does this. Thunderbird, which I use now, has the option to purge
> when you close. Outlook, you have to delete the message, then use a menu
> item to purge (or you can put the button on your tool bar). I've gone on
> the Outlook newsgroup, and the only response you get is "you need to
> purge using the menu item". Funny thing is, Outlook Express has this
> feature...
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] someone using Outlook 2003, please tell me it can't be this LAME...

[Bryce Fischer <br...@berzerker-soft.com>]

My big issue with Outlook, is that its support for IMAP leaves a lot to 
be desired. With IMAP, deleting is a two part process, marking message 
as deleted, and purging. Outlook has no way to automatically purge 
deleted messages, and it drives me nuts. Every other IMAP client I have 
seen does this. Thunderbird, which I use now, has the option to purge 
when you close. Outlook, you have to delete the message, then use a menu 
item to purge (or you can put the button on your tool bar). I've gone on 
the Outlook newsgroup, and the only response you get is "you need to 
purge using the menu item". Funny thing is, Outlook Express has this 
feature...

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