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[PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

arunramani opened a new pull request, #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491

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   Add metric to track Kafka message production rate which can be useful for correlating with Kafka lag.
   
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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "kfaraz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
kfaraz commented on PR #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491#issuecomment-2662003145

   @adithyachakilam , you need not rely on the ingested timestamp for this.
   You should use the Kafka record timestamp (`kafka.timestamp`) instead.
   This would be fairly straightforward. (Let me know if you face challenges with implementing this.)
   On the contrary, the production rate approach seems complicated to implement, error prone and less intuitive.


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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "kfaraz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
kfaraz commented on PR #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491#issuecomment-2665917698

   Closing this PR in favor of #17735 


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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "adithyachakilam (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
adithyachakilam commented on PR #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491#issuecomment-2664034517

   @kfaraz  Thanks for comments, opened a new PR: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17735


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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "adithyachakilam (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
adithyachakilam commented on PR #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491#issuecomment-2660040468

   > IIUC, we are trying to calculate the lag in terms of "how many minutes worth of records is the supervisor yet to process". This value is fairly similar to the message gap but not quite the same. The message gap is the "difference between the current timestamp of the system and the timestamp of the latest ingested record". Whereas here, I think we want the "difference between the timestamp of the latest ingested record and the timestamp of the latest record in the stream".
   
   
   @kfaraz I think having this approach would fail for late/early arriving data which happens very frequently with the streams that we are trying to deal. The best approach we have is to calculate the production rate and then make a best guess of how many minutes are we lagging behind.


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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "kfaraz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
kfaraz closed pull request #17491: Kafka: Emit production rate
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491


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Re: [PR] Kafka: Emit production rate (druid)

Posted by "kfaraz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
kfaraz commented on PR #17491:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/17491#issuecomment-2487664993

   @arunramani , could you please share some details as to how this metric would provide additional insight that is not already covered by metrics like Kafka lag, partition lag and/or message gap?


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