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[ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
The commons-i18n team is pleased to announce the Commons I18n 0.5 release!
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/i18n/
Internationalization package
Changes in this version include:
New Features:
o Added localized messages for all log and exception messages in the
i18n-component itself
o Added initial test suite
Have fun!
-The commons-i18n team
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Re: AW: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:16:58 +0100, Daniel Florey <da...@web.de> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted to make the current version of the
> component available to people interested in this component.
> It's no official release yet and as such there has been no voting thread.
> The mail to the developers list was created by maven as I tried to complete
> the maven based build environment to allow distros and releases to be done
> easily later on.
> I'll try to avoid sending any "announcements" to the list in future if this
> is considered harmful. So: Sorry again for that one.
> I'm currently working on completing this tiny component (javadocs, tests,
> documentation) in order to be able to prepare an "official" release.
> There are some questions left:
> - What is the correct place to put unofficial sandbox-releases for download?
http://cvs.apache.org/repository/ I think.
> Or is it needed for anyone interested to check out the sources and build a
> jar themselves?
> - I still can not find any maven documentation on how to use the dist-plugin
> in a useful way. Is there any commons project around using maven in a proper
> way to generate releases/distros and generate an appropriate download page?
Sure fire away with your hassles.
> If you have a look at i18n you'll see that the download link points to one
> of the distributions .zip file. I would like to point to the distro
> directory as such.
The automated download page just produces a list based on the versions
you have in the project.xml.
> - What are the steps that need to be done to move a component (once it is
> completed and considered useful) to commons-proper?
I think a vote is all it takes.
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Re: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by robert burrell donkin <rd...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 14:26, Daniel Florey wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
> I'll remove the stuff from the download site and try to figure out how to
> replace it with snapshot builds that indicate that it is no official
> release.
thanks for the prompt action.
hopefully, it should just be a case of renaming the distributions and
moving them to the right place. another announcement clarifying the
first would also be good. (will anyone who thinks differently please
jump in and correct me...)
- robert
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AW: AW: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by Daniel Florey <da...@web.de>.
Thanks for your reply.
I'll remove the stuff from the download site and try to figure out how to
replace it with snapshot builds that indicate that it is no official
release.
Please apologies the trouble I've caused.
Daniel
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> [mailto:commons-dev-return-68193-daniel.florey=web.de@jakarta.apache.org]
> Im Auftrag von robert burrell donkin
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 14:21
> An: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Betreff: Re: AW: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
>
> On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 11:16, Daniel Florey wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted to make the current version of
> the
> > component available to people interested in this component.
> > It's no official release yet and as such there has been no voting
> thread.
> > The mail to the developers list was created by maven as I tried to
> complete
> > the maven based build environment to allow distros and releases to be
> done
> > easily later on.
> > I'll try to avoid sending any "announcements" to the list in future if
> this
> > is considered harmful. So: Sorry again for that one.
>
> it's not the announcement that's considered harmful: it's the act.
>
> posting something that seems to be an official ASF release without it
> actually being an official ASF release is not acceptable.
>
> getting releases right is very, very important. the board expects the
> jakarta project to provide particular oversight when it comes to
> release. the jakarta pmc has entrusted the commons subproject with
> particular supervision of the sandbox. if the board cannot trust us to
> ensure all release related matters are dealt with correctly, then we
> soon won't have a project at all...
>
> > I'm currently working on completing this tiny component (javadocs,
> tests,
> > documentation) in order to be able to prepare an "official" release.
>
> part of process of promotion from sandbox to proper (so that an official
> ASF release can be prepare) is an educational one. to some extent, we
> trust that ASF committers should already be aware of the importance of
> process when it comes to releases and should know when to ask.
>
> so, questions are good :)
>
> when asked, we always say: releases are not possible from the sandbox.
> making development and test builds available to those who are not able
> to build from source is a different matter but it's very important to
> recognise the difference between these and official ASF releases.
>
> > There are some questions left:
> > - What is the correct place to put unofficial sandbox-releases for
> download?
> > Or is it needed for anyone interested to check out the sources and build
> a
> > jar themselves?
>
> there can be no such thing as sandbox releases: no releases are
> possible. (all ASF releases require approve and due process.)
>
> making spot, developing and test builds available is a different matter.
> i'd like to be able to point you at a suitable document detailing the
> usual conventions but i think it needs moving from the old wiki to the
> foundation site. (i'll try to take a look into this later.)
> cvs.apache.org is the right place, i think. (but i'll need to look into
> this.)
>
> often they are designated with a date stamp (rather than a version
> number) so avoid confusion. for example:
>
> commons-i18-20050220.tar.gz
>
> > - I still can not find any maven documentation on how to use the dist-
> plugin
> > in a useful way. Is there any commons project around using maven in a
> proper
> > way to generate releases/distros and generate an appropriate download
> page?
> > If you have a look at i18n you'll see that the download link points to
> one
> > of the distributions .zip file. I would like to point to the distro
> > directory as such.
>
> i think that work is being done on creating a maven-friendly version of
> the commons release instructions. i'm not sure what stage it's
> reached...
>
> > - What are the steps that need to be done to move a component (once it
> is
> > completed and considered useful) to commons-proper?
>
> a vote by the commons (proper) committers.
>
> - robert
>
>
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Re: AW: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 11:16, Daniel Florey wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted to make the current version of the
> component available to people interested in this component.
> It's no official release yet and as such there has been no voting thread.
> The mail to the developers list was created by maven as I tried to complete
> the maven based build environment to allow distros and releases to be done
> easily later on.
> I'll try to avoid sending any "announcements" to the list in future if this
> is considered harmful. So: Sorry again for that one.
it's not the announcement that's considered harmful: it's the act.
posting something that seems to be an official ASF release without it
actually being an official ASF release is not acceptable.
getting releases right is very, very important. the board expects the
jakarta project to provide particular oversight when it comes to
release. the jakarta pmc has entrusted the commons subproject with
particular supervision of the sandbox. if the board cannot trust us to
ensure all release related matters are dealt with correctly, then we
soon won't have a project at all...
> I'm currently working on completing this tiny component (javadocs, tests,
> documentation) in order to be able to prepare an "official" release.
part of process of promotion from sandbox to proper (so that an official
ASF release can be prepare) is an educational one. to some extent, we
trust that ASF committers should already be aware of the importance of
process when it comes to releases and should know when to ask.
so, questions are good :)
when asked, we always say: releases are not possible from the sandbox.
making development and test builds available to those who are not able
to build from source is a different matter but it's very important to
recognise the difference between these and official ASF releases.
> There are some questions left:
> - What is the correct place to put unofficial sandbox-releases for download?
> Or is it needed for anyone interested to check out the sources and build a
> jar themselves?
there can be no such thing as sandbox releases: no releases are
possible. (all ASF releases require approve and due process.)
making spot, developing and test builds available is a different matter.
i'd like to be able to point you at a suitable document detailing the
usual conventions but i think it needs moving from the old wiki to the
foundation site. (i'll try to take a look into this later.)
cvs.apache.org is the right place, i think. (but i'll need to look into
this.)
often they are designated with a date stamp (rather than a version
number) so avoid confusion. for example:
commons-i18-20050220.tar.gz
> - I still can not find any maven documentation on how to use the dist-plugin
> in a useful way. Is there any commons project around using maven in a proper
> way to generate releases/distros and generate an appropriate download page?
> If you have a look at i18n you'll see that the download link points to one
> of the distributions .zip file. I would like to point to the distro
> directory as such.
i think that work is being done on creating a maven-friendly version of
the commons release instructions. i'm not sure what stage it's
reached...
> - What are the steps that need to be done to move a component (once it is
> completed and considered useful) to commons-proper?
a vote by the commons (proper) committers.
- robert
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AW: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by Daniel Florey <da...@web.de>.
Hi folks,
Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted to make the current version of the
component available to people interested in this component.
It's no official release yet and as such there has been no voting thread.
The mail to the developers list was created by maven as I tried to complete
the maven based build environment to allow distros and releases to be done
easily later on.
I'll try to avoid sending any "announcements" to the list in future if this
is considered harmful. So: Sorry again for that one.
I'm currently working on completing this tiny component (javadocs, tests,
documentation) in order to be able to prepare an "official" release.
There are some questions left:
- What is the correct place to put unofficial sandbox-releases for download?
Or is it needed for anyone interested to check out the sources and build a
jar themselves?
- I still can not find any maven documentation on how to use the dist-plugin
in a useful way. Is there any commons project around using maven in a proper
way to generate releases/distros and generate an appropriate download page?
If you have a look at i18n you'll see that the download link points to one
of the distributions .zip file. I would like to point to the distro
directory as such.
- What are the steps that need to be done to move a component (once it is
completed and considered useful) to commons-proper?
Cheers,
Daniel
BTW: Thanks to Woody and others for their contributions to the
i18n-component!
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: commons-dev-return-68184-daniel.florey=web.de@jakarta.apache.org
> [mailto:commons-dev-return-68184-daniel.florey=web.de@jakarta.apache.org]
> Im Auftrag von robert burrell donkin
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 11:22
> An: pmc@jakarta.apache.org
> Cc: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
>
> On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 08:27, Martin Cooper wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:00 +1100, Dion Gillard
> <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I didn't think we did releases from the sandbox?
> >
> > Correct. A component in the sandbox cannot have a release, so this
> > anouncement is invalid as such. Only components in Commons Proper can
> > have releases.
> >
> > A sandbox component can, however, make development or test builds
> > available. That would seem to be the appropriate approach for i18n at
> > this time.
>
> +1
>
> i can't seem to find a VOTE thread either. i'm not sure whether this
> because there wasn't one or it's just that i've had problems finding the
> thread.
>
> there look to be a number of releases already available
> (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/i18n/downloads.html). the
> distributions are served from
> http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/commons-i18n/distributions/.
>
> AIUI this isn't the correct place to server test or development build
> from. the build naming system also does not make it clear that these are
> not official ASF releases. not good.
>
> need to do something about this. anyone opinions on the next step?
>
> - robert
>
>
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Re: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by robert burrell donkin <rd...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 08:27, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:00 +1100, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I didn't think we did releases from the sandbox?
>
> Correct. A component in the sandbox cannot have a release, so this
> anouncement is invalid as such. Only components in Commons Proper can
> have releases.
>
> A sandbox component can, however, make development or test builds
> available. That would seem to be the appropriate approach for i18n at
> this time.
+1
i can't seem to find a VOTE thread either. i'm not sure whether this
because there wasn't one or it's just that i've had problems finding the
thread.
there look to be a number of releases already available
(http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/i18n/downloads.html). the
distributions are served from
http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/commons-i18n/distributions/.
AIUI this isn't the correct place to server test or development build
from. the build naming system also does not make it clear that these are
not official ASF releases. not good.
need to do something about this. anyone opinions on the next step?
- robert
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Re: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:00 +1100, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't think we did releases from the sandbox?
Correct. A component in the sandbox cannot have a release, so this
anouncement is invalid as such. Only components in Commons Proper can
have releases.
A sandbox component can, however, make development or test builds
available. That would seem to be the appropriate approach for i18n at
this time.
--
Martin Cooper
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:19:31 +0100, daniel.florey@web.de
> <da...@web.de> wrote:
> > The commons-i18n team is pleased to announce the Commons I18n 0.5 release!
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/i18n/
> >
> > Internationalization package
> >
> > Changes in this version include:
> >
> > New Features:
> >
> > o Added localized messages for all log and exception messages in the
> > i18n-component itself
> > o Added initial test suite
> >
> > Have fun!
> > -The commons-i18n team
> >
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> >
> >
>
> --
> http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/
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Re: [ANN] Commons I18n 0.5 released
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
I didn't think we did releases from the sandbox?
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:19:31 +0100, daniel.florey@web.de
<da...@web.de> wrote:
> The commons-i18n team is pleased to announce the Commons I18n 0.5 release!
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/i18n/
>
> Internationalization package
>
> Changes in this version include:
>
> New Features:
>
> o Added localized messages for all log and exception messages in the
> i18n-component itself
> o Added initial test suite
>
> Have fun!
> -The commons-i18n team
>
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>
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