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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> on 2012/06/07 18:29:54 UTC

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
> download links for many open source projects.
>
> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
> Branding.
>
> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>

Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere yet)

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html

I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.

> =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo=
>
> Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the
> following logo subject to the following conditions:
>
> The logo:  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1&modificationDate=1331970198000
>
> [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location]
>
> Conditions:
>
> 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it.  If translations
> of the "Get it here!" text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev
> list and we can provide a translated version for you.
>
> 2. The image must be linked to one of:
>
> a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage
> b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
> http://de.openoffice.org
> c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice:
> http://download.openoffice.org or
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>
> 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror.  This
> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
>
> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> > Hi! This looks so good! I do have some suggestions.
> >       1. ' send a request to the ooo-dev mailing list and we can make a
> translated version for you. ' takes you to the page of MANY mailing lists.
>  I can see someone getting overwhelmed here.  People are not going to
> scroll too far down that list - maybe a direct link to the page for
> translations without all of the choices - or - place a quick link button
> for Translations at the top of the mailing list page?
>
> Markdown adds ids for header paragraphs. So a hash tag can easily be added
> to any link.
>
> >
> >       2. Items 2, 3 and 4 talk about the means for linking the logo - I
> really like the yellow example below this (including the alt!) - could this
> be placed above 2,3 and 4 as simply 'Here is a copy/paste link to use.  If
> you do not use this copy/past link and want to personalize it further,
> these are the rules you must follow: (insert 2,3,4)'  I think this would
> encourage the copy/paste (with the alt for SEO!)- and it offers an easy
> copy/paste connection for those that are not into coding - but want a quick
> link.
> > Also, could the Image link include an alt="Download Apache OpenOffice
> here" that would help - currently it is <img
> style="-webkit-user-select:none; "src="
> http://incubator.apache.org/openoffficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png" />
>
> +1. BTW - it is possible to use the Apache CMS Bookmarklet and create a
> patch. I'm willing to submit any CMS related patch someone wishes to
> contribute.
>
> Send patches to ooo-dev with a subject using a prefix of [RFW - CMS]. Good
> for any contribution from a non-committer.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> >      Nancy      Web Design
> > Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> > Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> > Design and Software Courses
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: trademarks@apache.org
> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion
> program
> >
> > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
> >> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
> >> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
> >> download links for many open source projects.
> >>
> >> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
> >> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
> >> Branding.
> >>
> >> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
> >> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
> >> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
> >> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
> >> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
> >>
> >
> > Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere
> yet)
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
> >
> > I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
> > if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
> >
> >> =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo=
> >>
> >> Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the
> >> following logo subject to the following conditions:
> >>
> >> The logo:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1&modificationDate=1331970198000
> >>
> >> [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location]
> >>
> >> Conditions:
> >>
> >> 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it.  If translations
> >> of the "Get it here!" text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev
> >> list and we can provide a translated version for you.
> >>
> >> 2. The image must be linked to one of:
> >>
> >> a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage
> >> b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
> >> http://de.openoffice.org
> >> c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice:
> >> http://download.openoffice.org or
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
> >>
> >> 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror.  This
> >> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
> >> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
> >> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>
>
Rob--

This is good! Hopefully I'll finally get to the "Distributor FAQ" I
mentioned a while back this weekend and I'll include a mention of this. Of
course, we'll need lots of feedback on that I'm sure.


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      if it's not all right then it's not the end. "
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Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Nancy K wrote:

> Rob,
> Hi! This looks so good! I do have some suggestions.  
> 	1. ' send a request to the ooo-dev mailing list and we can make a translated version for you. ' takes you to the page of MANY mailing lists.  I can see someone getting overwhelmed here.  People are not going to scroll too far down that list - maybe a direct link to the page for translations without all of the choices - or - place a quick link button for Translations at the top of the mailing list page?

Markdown adds ids for header paragraphs. So a hash tag can easily be added to any link.

> 
> 	2. Items 2, 3 and 4 talk about the means for linking the logo - I really like the yellow example below this (including the alt!) - could this be placed above 2,3 and 4 as simply 'Here is a copy/paste link to use.  If you do not use this copy/past link and want to personalize it further, these are the rules you must follow: (insert 2,3,4)'  I think this would encourage the copy/paste (with the alt for SEO!)- and it offers an easy copy/paste connection for those that are not into coding - but want a quick link.
> Also, could the Image link include an alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here" that would help - currently it is <img style="-webkit-user-select:none; "src="http://incubator.apache.org/openoffficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png" />

+1. BTW - it is possible to use the Apache CMS Bookmarklet and create a patch. I'm willing to submit any CMS related patch someone wishes to contribute.

Send patches to ooo-dev with a subject using a prefix of [RFW - CMS]. Good for any contribution from a non-committer.

Regards,
Dave

>  
>      Nancy      Web Design   
> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> Design and Software Courses
> 
>    
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org 
> Cc: trademarks@apache.org 
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program
> 
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>> download links for many open source projects.
>> 
>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>> Branding.
>> 
>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>> 
> 
> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere yet)
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
> 
> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
> 
>> =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo=
>> 
>> Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the
>> following logo subject to the following conditions:
>> 
>> The logo:  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1&modificationDate=1331970198000
>> 
>> [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location]
>> 
>> Conditions:
>> 
>> 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it.  If translations
>> of the "Get it here!" text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev
>> list and we can provide a translated version for you.
>> 
>> 2. The image must be linked to one of:
>> 
>> a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage
>> b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
>> http://de.openoffice.org
>> c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice:
>> http://download.openoffice.org or
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>> 
>> 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror.  This
>> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
>> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
>> 
>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.


Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Nancy K <na...@yahoo.com>.
Rob,
Hi! This looks so good! I do have some suggestions.  
	1. ' send a request to the ooo-dev mailing list and we can make a translated version for you. ' takes you to the page of MANY mailing lists.  I can see someone getting overwhelmed here.  People are not going to scroll too far down that list - maybe a direct link to the page for translations without all of the choices - or - place a quick link button for Translations at the top of the mailing list page?

	2. Items 2, 3 and 4 talk about the means for linking the logo - I really like the yellow example below this (including the alt!) - could this be placed above 2,3 and 4 as simply 'Here is a copy/paste link to use.  If you do not use this copy/past link and want to personalize it further, these are the rules you must follow: (insert 2,3,4)'  I think this would encourage the copy/paste (with the alt for SEO!)- and it offers an easy copy/paste connection for those that are not into coding - but want a quick link.
Also, could the Image link include an alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here" that would help - currently it is <img style="-webkit-user-select:none; "src="http://incubator.apache.org/openoffficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png" />
 
     Nancy      Web Design   
Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
Video courses on SEO, CMS,
Design and Software Courses

   

________________________________
 From: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org 
Cc: trademarks@apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program
 
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
> download links for many open source projects.
>
> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
> Branding.
>
> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>

Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere yet)

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html

I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.

> =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo=
>
> Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the
> following logo subject to the following conditions:
>
> The logo:  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1&modificationDate=1331970198000
>
> [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location]
>
> Conditions:
>
> 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it.  If translations
> of the "Get it here!" text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev
> list and we can provide a translated version for you.
>
> 2. The image must be linked to one of:
>
> a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage
> b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
> http://de.openoffice.org
> c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice:
> http://download.openoffice.org or
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>
> 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror.  This
> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
>
> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI Rob,
>>>> 
>>>> comments inside.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I made those updates and checked them in.  But I didn't
>>> understand the "The structure can be improved" comment.
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>> 
>> 
>> The three possible download options are subparts of the list item 2.
>> It should look like this:
>> 
> 
> Got it.  I did indent in the mdtext file and it looked fine in the
> preview.  But it looks like the preview code will preview indentation
> with mdtext with indentation of 2 steps, but the actually page
> generation engine requires indentation of 4 spaces.   What You See is
> Not What You Get.

Yeah, I think it is an approximation. You still need to look at the staging server or double check your publish.

I think that a true Preview button could be supported by the CMS, but someone would need to write it. There is a build_file.pl script that could be run. This would need a private staging area alongside the committer's private checkout, and it might need other site resources which may be in flux as well. A complex feature for small returns.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Should be fine now.
> 
>> Conditions
>> ----------
>> 
>> 1. The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and the
>> logo remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.
>> 
>> 2. The logo must directly link to one of:
>> 
>>   * The Apache OpenOffice home page
>>   * The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the main download page
>> or the detailed download page.
>>   * One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
>> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, http://fr.openoffice.rg,
>> etc.
>> 
>> 3. The logo must not link to a page at any other website other than
>> openoffice.org.
>> 
>> 4. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror. This causes
>> problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent users from
>> getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
>> 
>> Any use of this logo or any other Apache logo beyond the above requires
>> explicit permission per the existing trademark policy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I had noted, what the resulting HTML should look like.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>    wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>>>>>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>>>>>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>>>>>> download links for many open source projects.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>>>>>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>>>>>> Branding.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>>>>>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>>>>>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>>>>>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>>>>>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere
>>>>> yet)
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
>>>>> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [..]
>>>> 
>>>>>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>>>>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Typo:
>>>> program an must -->  program and must
>>>> 
>>>>> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in
>>>>> an
>>>>> HTML page:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a copy&paste
>>>> is
>>>> possible.
>>>> 
>>>> <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
>>>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>>> 
>>>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>>> </a>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The structure can be improved:
>>>> 
>>>> <h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
>>>> <ol>
>>>> <li>
>>>> <p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and
>>>> the
>>>> logo
>>>> remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
>>>> </li>
>>>> <li>
>>>> <p>The logo<strong>must directly link</strong>  to one of:</p>
>>>> <ul>
>>>> <li>
>>>> The Apache OpenOffice<a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
>>>> </li>
>>>> <li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the<a
>>>> href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a>  or
>>>> the<a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed
>>>> download page</a>.</li>
>>>> <li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
>>>> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org,
>>>> http://fr.openoffice.rg,
>>>> etc.</li>
>>>> </ul>
>>>> <li>
>>>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a page at any other website
>>>> other than openoffice.org.</p>
>>>> </li>
>>>> <li>
>>>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a specific download file or
>>>> mirror.  This
>>>> 
>>>> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
>>>> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
>>>> </p>
>>>> </li>
>>>> </ol>
>>>> <p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>>> program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing<a
>>>> 
>>>> href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark
>>>> policy</a>
>>>> </p>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Regina
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Rob,

Rob Weir schrieb:
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>  wrote:
>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HI Rob,
>>>>
>>>> comments inside.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.  I made those updates and checked them in.  But I didn't
>>> understand the "The structure can be improved" comment.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> The three possible download options are subparts of the list item 2.
>> It should look like this:
>>
>
> Got it.  I did indent in the mdtext file and it looked fine in the
> preview.  But it looks like the preview code will preview indentation
> with mdtext with indentation of 2 steps, but the actually page
> generation engine requires indentation of 4 spaces.   What You See is
> Not What You Get.

That's the problem with all markup languages.

>
> Should be fine now.

Yes, I too think it is OK now.

Kind regards
Regina




Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Rob Weir schrieb:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> HI Rob,
>>>
>>> comments inside.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.  I made those updates and checked them in.  But I didn't
>> understand the "The structure can be improved" comment.
>>
>> -Rob
>
>
> The three possible download options are subparts of the list item 2.
> It should look like this:
>

Got it.  I did indent in the mdtext file and it looked fine in the
preview.  But it looks like the preview code will preview indentation
with mdtext with indentation of 2 steps, but the actually page
generation engine requires indentation of 4 spaces.   What You See is
Not What You Get.

Should be fine now.

> Conditions
> ----------
>
> 1. The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and the
> logo remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.
>
> 2. The logo must directly link to one of:
>
>   * The Apache OpenOffice home page
>   * The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the main download page
> or the detailed download page.
>   * One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, http://fr.openoffice.rg,
> etc.
>
> 3. The logo must not link to a page at any other website other than
> openoffice.org.
>
> 4. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror. This causes
> problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent users from
> getting the latest version of OpenOffice.
>
> Any use of this logo or any other Apache logo beyond the above requires
> explicit permission per the existing trademark policy
>
>
>
> I had noted, what the resulting HTML should look like.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>>
>>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>>>>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>>>>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>>>>> download links for many open source projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>>>>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>>>>> Branding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>>>>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>>>>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>>>>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>>>>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere
>>>> yet)
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
>>>> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
>>>
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>>>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>>>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Typo:
>>> program an must -->  program and must
>>>
>>>> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in
>>>> an
>>>> HTML page:
>>>>
>>>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a copy&paste
>>> is
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
>>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>>
>>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>> </a>
>>>
>>>
>>> The structure can be improved:
>>>
>>> <h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
>>> <ol>
>>> <li>
>>> <p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and
>>> the
>>> logo
>>> remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>
>>> <p>The logo<strong>must directly link</strong>  to one of:</p>
>>> <ul>
>>> <li>
>>> The Apache OpenOffice<a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the<a
>>> href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a>  or
>>> the<a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed
>>> download page</a>.</li>
>>> <li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
>>> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org,
>>> http://fr.openoffice.rg,
>>> etc.</li>
>>> </ul>
>>> <li>
>>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a page at any other website
>>> other than openoffice.org.</p>
>>> </li>
>>> <li>
>>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a specific download file or
>>> mirror.  This
>>>
>>> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
>>> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
>>> </p>
>>> </li>
>>> </ol>
>>> <p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>> program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing<a
>>>
>>> href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark
>>> policy</a>
>>> </p>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>
>>
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Rob Weir schrieb:
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>  wrote:
>> HI Rob,
>>
>> comments inside.
>>
>
> Thanks.  I made those updates and checked them in.  But I didn't
> understand the "The structure can be improved" comment.
>
> -Rob

The three possible download options are subparts of the list item 2.
It should look like this:

Conditions
----------

1. The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and 
the logo remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.

2. The logo must directly link to one of:

    * The Apache OpenOffice home page
    * The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the main download 
page or the detailed download page.
    * One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g., 
http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, 
http://fr.openoffice.rg, etc.

3. The logo must not link to a page at any other website other than 
openoffice.org.

4. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror. This 
causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent users 
from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.

Any use of this logo or any other Apache logo beyond the above requires 
explicit permission per the existing trademark policy



I had noted, what the resulting HTML should look like.

Kind regards
Regina

>
>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>>
>>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>>>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>>>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>>>> download links for many open source projects.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>>>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>>>> Branding.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>>>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>>>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>>>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>>>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere
>>> yet)
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>>>
>>> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
>>> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
>>
>> [..]
>>
>>>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Typo:
>> program an must -->  program and must
>>
>>> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in an
>>> HTML page:
>>>
>>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>>
>>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>>
>>
>> The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a copy&paste is
>> possible.
>>
>> <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>> </a>
>>
>>
>> The structure can be improved:
>>
>> <h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
>> <ol>
>> <li>
>> <p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and the
>> logo
>> remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
>> </li>
>> <li>
>> <p>The logo<strong>must directly link</strong>  to one of:</p>
>> <ul>
>> <li>
>> The Apache OpenOffice<a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
>> </li>
>> <li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the<a
>> href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a>  or
>> the<a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed
>> download page</a>.</li>
>> <li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
>> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, http://fr.openoffice.rg,
>> etc.</li>
>> </ul>
>> <li>
>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a page at any other website
>> other than openoffice.org.</p>
>> </li>
>> <li>
>> <p>The logo<strong>must not</strong>  link to a specific download file or
>> mirror.  This
>>
>> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
>> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
>> </p>
>> </li>
>> </ol>
>> <p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>> program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing<a
>> href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark
>> policy</a>
>> </p>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>


Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> wrote:
> HI Rob,
>
> comments inside.
>

Thanks.  I made those updates and checked them in.  But I didn't
understand the "The structure can be improved" comment.

-Rob

> Rob Weir schrieb:
>
>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>>> download links for many open source projects.
>>>
>>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>>> Branding.
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>>
>>
>> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere
>> yet)
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>>
>> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
>> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
>
> [..]
>
>>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>>
>>
>
> Typo:
> program an must --> program and must
>
>> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in an
>> HTML page:
>>
>> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
>>
>> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>>
>
> The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a copy&paste is
> possible.
>
> <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
> </a>
>
>
> The structure can be improved:
>
> <h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
> <ol>
> <li>
> <p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and the
> logo
> remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
> </li>
> <li>
> <p>The logo <strong>must directly link</strong> to one of:</p>
> <ul>
> <li>
> The Apache OpenOffice <a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
> </li>
> <li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the <a
> href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a> or
> the <a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed
> download page</a>.</li>
> <li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
> http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, http://fr.openoffice.rg,
> etc.</li>
> </ul>
> <li>
> <p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a page at any other website
> other than openoffice.org.</p>
> </li>
> <li>
> <p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a specific download file or
> mirror.  This
>
> causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
> users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
> </p>
> </li>
> </ol>
> <p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
> program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing <a
> href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark
> policy</a>
> </p>
>
>
> Kind regards
> Regina

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
HI Rob,

comments inside.

Rob Weir schrieb:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>  wrote:
>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>> download links for many open source projects.
>>
>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>> Branding.
>>
>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>
>
> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere yet)
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>
> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
[..]
>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>

Typo:
program an must --> program and must

> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in an HTML page:
>
> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>

The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a 
copy&paste is possible.

<a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
<img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here" 
src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
</a>


The structure can be improved:

<h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
<ol>
<li>
<p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and 
the logo
remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must directly link</strong> to one of:</p>
<ul>
<li>
The Apache OpenOffice <a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
</li>
<li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the <a 
href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a> or
the <a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed 
download page</a>.</li>
<li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, 
http://fr.openoffice.rg, etc.</li>
</ul>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a page at any other 
website other than openoffice.org.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a specific download file 
or mirror.  This
causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing <a 
href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark 
policy</a>
</p>


Kind regards
Regina

Re: [PROPOSAL] "Get it here" community download promotion program

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Rob,

comments inside.

Rob Weir schrieb:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>  wrote:
>> We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to
>> add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it.  These
>> range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate
>> download links for many open source projects.
>>
>> Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request
>> to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP
>> Branding.
>>
>> I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket
>> permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo
>> (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation.  If
>> there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from
>> Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website.
>>
>
> Here is the new page on the website. (It is not linked to from anywhere yet)
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
>
> I'd like to kick this off with a blog post in the next week or so.  So
> if anyone sees anything urgently wrong, please speak up now.
[..]
>> 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
>> program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF.
>

Typo:
program an must --> program and must

> This is an example of how the "Get it here!" logo might be included in an HTML page:
>
> <img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here"
> src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
>

The example should show the whole markup for a link, so that a 
copy&paste is possible.

<a href="http://download.openoffice.org/">
<img width="300" height="100" alt="Download Apache OpenOffice here" 
src="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png"/>
</a>


The structure can be improved:

<h2 id="conditions">Conditions:</h2>
<ol>
<li>
<p>The logo may be resized, so long as the aspect ratio is preserved and 
the logo
remains legible, but the logo may not be otherwise altered.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must directly link</strong> to one of:</p>
<ul>
<li>
The Apache OpenOffice <a href="http://www.openoffice.org">home page</a>
</li>
<li>The download page for Apache OpenOffice, either the <a 
href="http://download.openoffice.org">main download page</a> or
the <a href="http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html">detailed 
download page</a>.</li>
<li>One of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g.,
http://de.openoffice.org, http://it.openoffice.org, 
http://fr.openoffice.rg, etc.</li>
</ul>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a page at any other 
website other than openoffice.org.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The logo <strong>must not</strong> link to a specific download file 
or mirror.  This
causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent
users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice.<br />
</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this
program an must be explicitly requested from per the existing <a 
href="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html">trademark 
policy</a>
</p>


Kind regards
Regina