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Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org> on 2003/01/22 18:59:51 UTC
cvs repository symlink
Hi peeps,
can someone with appropriate access, and time to spare, please create
some cvs repository symlinks:
avalon -> jakarta-avalon
avalon-site -> jakarta-avalon-site
and update the cvs avail file, too?
thanks! cheers,
- Leo
(since avalon is no longer a jakarta subproject, there's some stuff we
need/want to move around and or clean up.)
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Re: request cvs renaming (was: Re: cvs repository symlink)
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> One more thing to do...
>
> e) update the ViewCVS configuration so it knows about the changes.
> Currently, it shows the following errors:
> -----------
> jakarta-avalon - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-apps - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-cornerstone - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-excalibur - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-logkit - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-phoenix - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-site - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-avalon-testlet - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-ojb - this entry is unreadable
> jakarta-turbine-torque - this entry is unreadable
>
> NOTE: One or more files were unreadable. The files in the CVS repository
> should be readable by the web server process. Please report this
> condition to the administrator of this CVS repository.
> -----------
> and it doesn't show the renamed modules.
Fixed.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: request cvs renaming (was: Re: cvs repository symlink)
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
One more thing to do...
e) update the ViewCVS configuration so it knows about the changes.
Currently, it shows the following errors:
-----------
jakarta-avalon - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-apps - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-cornerstone - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-excalibur - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-logkit - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-phoenix - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-site - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-avalon-testlet - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-ojb - this entry is unreadable
jakarta-turbine-torque - this entry is unreadable
NOTE: One or more files were unreadable. The files in the CVS repository
should be readable by the web server process. Please report this
condition to the administrator of this CVS repository.
-----------
and it doesn't show the renamed modules.
cheers,
- Leo
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Re: request cvs renaming (was: Re: cvs repository symlink)
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
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Subject: cvs commit: avalon README.txt
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Modified: . README.txt
Log:
testing cvs repository move....
<snip/>
---
This doesn't work properly. The address is supposed to be
avalon-cvs@jakarta.apache.org. My guess is you made a typo renaming some
.qmail files?
Checkout of old module name
---------------------------
[lsimons@LSD cvs]$ cvs -d leosimons@cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co
jakarta-avalon
cvs server: cannot find module
`avalon_repositories_have_moved_-_try_avalon-*' - ignored
cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules
[lsimons@LSD cvs]$
---
is ok with me :D
Checkout of new module
----------------------
[lsimons@LSD cvs]$ cvs -d leosimons@cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co avalon
---
works fine.
Committing to old module
------------------------
In C:\gump\cvs\jakarta-avalon: cvs -q commit -m "testing cvs repository
move...." README.txt
CVSROOT=leosimons@cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs
cvs server: failed to create lock directory for
`/home/cvs/jakarta-avalon' (/home/cvs/jakarta-avalon/#cvs.lock): No such
file or directory
cvs server: lock failed - giving up
cvs [server aborted]: lock failed - giving up
Error, CVS operation failed
---
the error message is a little obscure, but I think everyone is informed
of the change so it should be ok.
Committing to new module
------------------------
In C:\gump\cvs\avalon: cvs -q commit -m "testing cvs repository
move...." README.txt
CVSROOT=leosimons@cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs
Checking in README.txt;
/home/cvs/avalon/README.txt,v <-- README.txt
new revision: 1.3; previous revision: 1.2
done
Mailing the commit message...
Success, CVS operation completed
---
works fine.
cheers!
- Leo
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
>
>>I guess this slipped through your busy schedule. Could you find some
>>time or someone to do this:
>>
>>a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
>
> Done. Note that there's a repos now called "/home/cvs/avalon" - not a
> problem, just be aware. The "avail" file has been updated with the new
> location too.
>
>>b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
>> goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
>> new one.
>
> Let me know if what I put there makes sense.
>
>>c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
>> in.
>
> Done.
>
>>d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
>> "right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
>> that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
>
> Done, I think. This just involved renaming the corresponding .qmail
> files. give it a try, let me know if it doesn't work.
>
> Brian
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Re: request cvs renaming (was: Re: cvs repository symlink)
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
> I guess this slipped through your busy schedule. Could you find some
> time or someone to do this:
>
> a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
Done. Note that there's a repos now called "/home/cvs/avalon" - not a
problem, just be aware. The "avail" file has been updated with the new
location too.
> b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
> goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
> new one.
Let me know if what I put there makes sense.
> c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
> in.
Done.
> d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
> "right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
> that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
Done, I think. This just involved renaming the corresponding .qmail
files. give it a try, let me know if it doesn't work.
Brian
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request cvs renaming (was: Re: cvs repository symlink)
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
Hi Brian,
I guess this slipped through your busy schedule. Could you find some
time or someone to do this:
a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
new one.
c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
in.
d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
"right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
thanks!
- Leo
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
>
>
>>Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Symlinks are always dangerous, and I especially worry about them in a CVS
>>>repository.
>>>
>>>
>>didn't know that...hmm. We do have a few, don't we?
>>
>>
>
>Um, yeah, too many. Let's not create more. I'll address removing the
>remaining ones in a separate email to infrastructure@.
>
>I mainly worry about whether an action like that corrupts the repository
>in some subtle way. Imagine if someone checks out both the part of
>the repos that appears under the symlink, and the original name for that
>link itself, changes each copy separately, then (without thinking) checks
>both in at the same time. I don't know what'll happen, so I'm not trying
>to spread FUD, I'm just trying to completely eliminate the possibility of
>something going wrong.
>
>
>
>>>Can we just rename them, and then modify the modules file to
>>>tell people who try and check out or update jakarta-avalon[-site] about
>>>the new module name?
>>>
>>>
>>sounds good to me, but maybe I'm missing something....avalon
>>people...objections anyone?
>>
>>
>
>So, to be clear: what we're doing is
>
>a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
>b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
> goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
> new one.
>c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
> in.
>d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
> "right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
> that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
>
>
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
>>Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>
> So, to be clear: what we're doing is
>
> a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
> b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
> goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
> new one.
> c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
> in.
> d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
> "right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
> that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
+1
>>- move website
>
> Well, there's currently nothing in /www/avalon.apache.org. Something's
> better than nothing. :)
agreed. We should actually probably do this right now :D I do not have
access to daedalus; can I either have an account with proper permission
for modding that docroot, or some pointers as to how to manage it's
modification from icarus?
if an account is no problem 4 y'all (I heard the goal is to restrict
access as much as possible...), my account info:
id: leosimons
full name: Leo Simons
email: leosimons@apache.org
groups: avalon, jakarta
keys: icarus.apache.org:/home/leosimons/.ssh/authorized_keys (well duh!)
regards,
- Leo
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Peter Royal wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>
>> a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
>
>
> Is there a (kinda) trivial way to convert a checked out copy from one
> module to another? Say a script that modifies CVS/Repository for every
> directory?
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html has something to start working
from
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
Is there a (kinda) trivial way to convert a checked out copy from one
module to another? Say a script that modifies CVS/Repository for every
directory?
-pete
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
> Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> > Symlinks are always dangerous, and I especially worry about them in a CVS
> > repository.
>
> didn't know that...hmm. We do have a few, don't we?
Um, yeah, too many. Let's not create more. I'll address removing the
remaining ones in a separate email to infrastructure@.
I mainly worry about whether an action like that corrupts the repository
in some subtle way. Imagine if someone checks out both the part of
the repos that appears under the symlink, and the original name for that
link itself, changes each copy separately, then (without thinking) checks
both in at the same time. I don't know what'll happen, so I'm not trying
to spread FUD, I'm just trying to completely eliminate the possibility of
something going wrong.
> > Can we just rename them, and then modify the modules file to
> > tell people who try and check out or update jakarta-avalon[-site] about
> > the new module name?
>
> sounds good to me, but maybe I'm missing something....avalon
> people...objections anyone?
So, to be clear: what we're doing is
a) renaming /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon[-$foo] to /home/cvs/avalon[-$foo]
b) putting something temporary in the cvs/modules file that when someone
goes to update or commit under the old name, tells them to go to the
new one.
c) chgrp'ing /home/cvs/avalon-* to group "avalon", which all of you are
in.
d) for now, making sure that commits to the avalon modules goes to the
"right place" at the avalon-*-cvs@jakarta lists, but eventually moving
that to *-cvs@avalon.apache.org.
> - learn about how the website is published and updated, see if it is
> smart & feasible to use forrest
> - clean up the website (someone calculated avalon's got an 80 meg
> website, somewhat ridiculous)
> - move website
Well, there's currently nothing in /www/avalon.apache.org. Something's
better than nothing. :)
> - rename mailing lists (someone said somewhere I think that this might
> be somewhat difficult; it's not a high priority)
Not hard at all, just requires some coordination between Pier and myself.
Brian
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> Symlinks are always dangerous, and I especially worry about them in a CVS
> repository.
didn't know that...hmm. We do have a few, don't we?
> Can we just rename them, and then modify the modules file to
> tell people who try and check out or update jakarta-avalon[-site] about
> the new module name?
sounds good to me, but maybe I'm missing something....avalon
people...objections anyone?
> Should we proceed with relocating other resources to
> avalon.apache.org?
that's our plan, 't is. We're not in a hurry (always lots of things to
do ;). my top-of-head list:
- link/rename cvs
- move some things around in cvs
- steal as much as possible from the ant people; they seem to be
handling their move pretty well ;)
- learn about how the website is published and updated, see if it is
smart & feasible to use forrest
- clean up the website (someone calculated avalon's got an 80 meg
website, somewhat ridiculous)
- move website
- figure out how to properly publish distributions, and where, and what
access it requires
- set up distribution mirroring
- rename mailing lists (someone said somewhere I think that this might
be somewhat difficult; it's not a high priority)
I need to do some reading and figure out some stuff before I can be more
specific; if you feel like being proactive and doing stuff before we
figure out how to do it, great, if not, questions will come in due time!
We're basically in the same boat as ant, and likely james in some time
(all moving out of jakarta). If any infrastructure peeps have some smart
ideas or suggestions on that (or pointers to server layout docs 'n stuff
which I can't really find), they're very welcome.
cheers,
- Leo
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Re: cvs repository symlink
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Symlinks are always dangerous, and I especially worry about them in a CVS
repository. Can we just rename them, and then modify the modules file to
tell people who try and check out or update jakarta-avalon[-site] about
the new module name? Should we proceed with relocating other resources to
avalon.apache.org?
Brian
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Leo Simons wrote:
> can someone with appropriate access, and time to spare, please create
> some cvs repository symlinks:
>
> avalon -> jakarta-avalon
> avalon-site -> jakarta-avalon-site
>
> and update the cvs avail file, too?
>
> thanks! cheers,
>
> - Leo
>
> (since avalon is no longer a jakarta subproject, there's some stuff we
> need/want to move around and or clean up.)
>
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