Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

[Gunther Birznieks <gu...@extropia.com>]

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At 08:36 AM 10/29/2001, Medi Montaseri wrote:

>Similarly, this concept of Enterprise is a bugus idea ... from a pure
>computer science point of view, there is no such thing as an Enterprise.
>This is all Microsoft's branding trying to associate themselves with
>something big, and Sun is stupidly following it....

"A pure computer science point of view"...  Well, very few things exist 
from a "pure" computer science point of view because it's based on low 
level algorithms typically.

However, that does not mean models that encapsulate the complexity of all 
the algorithms put together in certain ways do not have or add value.

The concept of the enterprise is a very real model of interpreting the 
world of IT and how to distinguish between a localized, single-protocol 
systems and an enterprise system.

Enterprise being a Microsoft Branding term? I don't think believe that it 
came before Sun. Sun and Microsoft are not branding themselves the same 
way. And I believe that the term enterprise has been around for quite some 
years independent of Microsoft.

However, because of the Java and Sun branding of J2EE, it is important that 
Perl and other languages come together to say how they fit the enterprise 
as well. Why is this important? Credibility. While it's true that many 
businesses do not require "enterprise" solutions, a business can feel more 
comfortable adopting a solution if they know that it can grow with them.

For example, if I were to download a public domain web store, I would much 
prefer knowing that the ecommerce solution were used by Amazon.com because 
then I'd know that if my "ReeferOnline" store were to take off in Columbia, 
that it would scale and I wouldn't have to look for an alternative 
solution. Also, the fact that a larger corporation can use the application 
means that they've worked out security and other issues better than I, a 
small IT arm of a huge Drug Overlord, can afford the time and effort to 
check out.

While not everyone may need these additional reassurances from a marketing 
point of view, the majority of the world does.

>My vote is to come up with something more pure than trendy like
>Enterprise.

My vote is that anyone who doesn't like a name should be the first person 
to come up with an alternative idea rather than just negating it and asking 
for others to come up with the hard work of coming up with something 
different. :)

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