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Posted to dev@hbase.apache.org by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> on 2012/06/28 19:48:15 UTC
Fwd: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
ZooKeeper dev consensus is: "fwiw during the summit meetup we took a
poll and the consensus was
that 3.4 should now be considered stable"
So I don't see an issue with depending on 3.4.x. At some point you
have to make progress.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
To: dev@zookeeper.apache.org
Cc: Jesse Yates <je...@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> See Jesse's comment:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2611?focusedCommentId=13402863&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13402863
Sounds like a reasonable concern. In their shoes I'd probably stick
with established/stable features as well.
fwiw during the summit meetup we took a poll and the consensus was
that 3.4 should now be considered stable. Mahadev and I were planning
to propose the next release (3.4.4) as such. So it shouldn't be long
to wait if you are interested in using some of the new features.
Patrick
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For Ted's question, developers and ops at the company I mentioned would
>> be
>> > able to give their answer.
>>
>> We have a general policy of not adding new features to fix releases.
>>
>> What testing have you done with 3.4.3 that concerns you? Are there
>> specific outstanding bugs?
>>
>> Patrick
>>
--
Best regards,
- Andy
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
Hein (via Tom White)
Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
Gmail only showed dev :-)
Should have looked further.
Maybe revision to subject for cross post ?
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > When can I expect 3.4.4 to be released ?
>
> Sent to wrong list? This is dev@hbase, I think you want dev@zookeeper?
>
> - Andy
>
Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When can I expect 3.4.4 to be released ?
Sent to wrong list? This is dev@hbase, I think you want dev@zookeeper?
- Andy
Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
When can I expect 3.4.4 to be released ?
Cheers
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>wrote:
> ZooKeeper dev consensus is: "fwiw during the summit meetup we took a
> poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable"
>
> So I don't see an issue with depending on 3.4.x. At some point you
> have to make progress.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
> To: dev@zookeeper.apache.org
> Cc: Jesse Yates <je...@gmail.com>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > See Jesse's comment:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2611?focusedCommentId=13402863&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13402863
>
> Sounds like a reasonable concern. In their shoes I'd probably stick
> with established/stable features as well.
>
> fwiw during the summit meetup we took a poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable. Mahadev and I were planning
> to propose the next release (3.4.4) as such. So it shouldn't be long
> to wait if you are interested in using some of the new features.
>
> Patrick
>
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > For Ted's question, developers and ops at the company I mentioned
> would
> >> be
> >> > able to give their answer.
> >>
> >> We have a general policy of not adding new features to fix releases.
> >>
> >> What testing have you done with 3.4.3 that concerns you? Are there
> >> specific outstanding bugs?
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein (via Tom White)
>
Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
Of course I would also venture the opinion that any HBase change which
uses multi() should be considered experimental, as well as use of the
SASL authentication. On that latter point, use of it is optional. I
would caution us to also implement use of multi for optimization of
MTTR or improvement of region assignment semantics or other related
issues as optional features.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> ZooKeeper dev consensus is: "fwiw during the summit meetup we took a
> poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable"
>
> So I don't see an issue with depending on 3.4.x. At some point you
> have to make progress.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
> To: dev@zookeeper.apache.org
> Cc: Jesse Yates <je...@gmail.com>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> See Jesse's comment:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2611?focusedCommentId=13402863&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13402863
>
> Sounds like a reasonable concern. In their shoes I'd probably stick
> with established/stable features as well.
>
> fwiw during the summit meetup we took a poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable. Mahadev and I were planning
> to propose the next release (3.4.4) as such. So it shouldn't be long
> to wait if you are interested in using some of the new features.
>
> Patrick
>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > For Ted's question, developers and ops at the company I mentioned would
>>> be
>>> > able to give their answer.
>>>
>>> We have a general policy of not adding new features to fix releases.
>>>
>>> What testing have you done with 3.4.3 that concerns you? Are there
>>> specific outstanding bugs?
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein (via Tom White)
--
Best regards,
- Andy
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
Hein (via Tom White)
Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by Himanshu Vashishtha <hv...@cs.ualberta.ca>.
+1
We can also look for issues that are still open (and are delaying 3.4
to be marked as stable), and make the call whether we can use it or
not.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> ZooKeeper dev consensus is: "fwiw during the summit meetup we took a
> poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable"
>
> So I don't see an issue with depending on 3.4.x. At some point you
> have to make progress.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
> To: dev@zookeeper.apache.org
> Cc: Jesse Yates <je...@gmail.com>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> See Jesse's comment:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2611?focusedCommentId=13402863&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13402863
>
> Sounds like a reasonable concern. In their shoes I'd probably stick
> with established/stable features as well.
>
> fwiw during the summit meetup we took a poll and the consensus was
> that 3.4 should now be considered stable. Mahadev and I were planning
> to propose the next release (3.4.4) as such. So it shouldn't be long
> to wait if you are interested in using some of the new features.
>
> Patrick
>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > For Ted's question, developers and ops at the company I mentioned would
>>> be
>>> > able to give their answer.
>>>
>>> We have a general policy of not adding new features to fix releases.
>>>
>>> What testing have you done with 3.4.3 that concerns you? Are there
>>> specific outstanding bugs?
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein (via Tom White)
Re: Fwd: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
Posted by lars hofhansl <lh...@yahoo.com>.
I'll repeat my +1 from a while back :)
________________________________
From: Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
To: dev@hbase.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Fwd: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
ZooKeeper dev consensus is: "fwiw during the summit meetup we took a
poll and the consensus was
that 3.4 should now be considered stable"
So I don't see an issue with depending on 3.4.x. At some point you
have to make progress.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: porting multi() to zookeeper 3.3
To: dev@zookeeper.apache.org
Cc: Jesse Yates <je...@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> See Jesse's comment:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-2611?focusedCommentId=13402863&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13402863
Sounds like a reasonable concern. In their shoes I'd probably stick
with established/stable features as well.
fwiw during the summit meetup we took a poll and the consensus was
that 3.4 should now be considered stable. Mahadev and I were planning
to propose the next release (3.4.4) as such. So it shouldn't be long
to wait if you are interested in using some of the new features.
Patrick
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ted Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For Ted's question, developers and ops at the company I mentioned would
>> be
>> > able to give their answer.
>>
>> We have a general policy of not adding new features to fix releases.
>>
>> What testing have you done with 3.4.3 that concerns you? Are there
>> specific outstanding bugs?
>>
>> Patrick
>>
--
Best regards,
- Andy
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
Hein (via Tom White)