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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> on 2013/05/01 20:37:41 UTC
blackberry 10 migration
I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent migration of
BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the existing
implementation.
The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3 tests
behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable enough to
accept.
There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
1. documentation
- BB10 plugin development
- getting started guide
both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this work is
done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
2. create script
the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue, as I
understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to see
package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step) rather
than explicitly.
3. project create scripts
needs better help messages and documentation
4. 2.7.0 support
build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to 2.7.0
5. cordova-js
it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to add this
to platforms in cordova-js
Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to correct any
misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion threads.
- Lorin
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
those are definitely coming in as well and at the same time, but I wanted
to talk with Anis before doing anything with those repos
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> What about plugman and cli?
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> From: Lorin Beer
> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> To: dev
> Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>
>
> ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs are
> ready, we'll merge them into master.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Lorin,
> >
> > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over the
> > next couple days.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> > >
> > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know
> > when
> > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> > >
> > > - Lorin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams
> > next
> > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
> > date,
> > > > late next week.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > > >
> > > > Lorin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Lorin,
> > > >>
> > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people
> > this
> > > >> afternoon.
> > > >>
> > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm
> > > flying
> > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Bryan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
> the
> > > new
> > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> workflows
> > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> > pulling
> > > >> the
> > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like
> > to
> > > >> see
> > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Lorin
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > >> > >wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> > > >> alongside
> > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
> this.
> > > What
> > > >> > I'd
> > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core
> BB
> > > >> repo
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > > >> > >wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> > included.
> > > >> You
> > > >> > >> can
> > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep
> > tabs
> > > >> on
> > > >> > us.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
> your
> > > >> > specific
> > > >> > >> questions:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
> pushed
> > > >> > anything
> > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> > WebWorks,
> > > >> it is
> > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
> fine
> > > with
> > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install
> on
> > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
> > bring
> > > in
> > > >> > >> hello
> > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
> as a
> > > >> > >> platform.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> > > >> > migration
> > > >> > >> of
> > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing
> > the
> > > >> > >> existing
> > > >> > >> > implementation.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is
> > > only 3
> > > >> > >> tests
> > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
> stable
> > > >> enough
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > >> > accept.
> > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If
> > this
> > > >> work
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
> > issue,
> > > >> as I
> > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
> like
> > > to
> > > >> see
> > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> install
> > > >> step)
> > > >> > >> rather
> > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought
> up
> > to
> > > >> > 2.7.0
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
> need
> > > to
> > > >> add
> > > >> > >> this
> > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in
> to
> > > >> correct
> > > >> > >> any
> > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
> > > >> above.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> > discussion
> > > >> > >> threads.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
great! Thanks Fil!
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> So just to touch on this again, BlackBerry's work on cordova-plugman has
> been merged into master and is working great.
>
> CLI still to be sorted but that's a work in progress anyways.
>
> On 5/13/13 10:26 AM, "Lorin Beer" <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Alright, I think this is sufficient for the merge into apache master.
> >We are leaving the cli and plugman contributions to Fil and Anis to sort
> >out, I'll be merging
> >docs
> >cordova-js
> >blackberry
> >
> >- Lorin
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Bryan Higgins
> ><br...@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lorin,
> >>
> >> The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
> >> pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
> >>
> >> There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
> >> which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created
> >>JIRA
> >> issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
> >> tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get
> >>them
> >> into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
> >> everything again.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bryan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kw...@blackberry.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Lorin. Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Ken Wallis
> >> >
> >> > Product Manager WebWorks
> >> >
> >> > BlackBerry
> >> >
> >> > 289-261-4369
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> >
> >> > pulled into apache:
> >> >
> >> > github.com/blackberry/
> >> > cordova-blackberry to future branch
> >> > cordova-js to future branch
> >> > cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
> >> > cordova-plugman to apache future branch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this
> >> will
> >> > likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem
> >>to
> >> be
> >> > orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
> >> >
> >> > as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as
> >>soon
> >> as
> >> > docs are in place.
> >> >
> >> > It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to
> >>git-apache,
> >> > but retarget those pull requests anytime.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > will do
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins
> >><bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> >> > >> blackberry/blackberry10
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open
> >>pull
> >> > >> requests which I will re-target.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
> >> > jheifetz@blackberry.com
> >> > >> >wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > What about plugman and cli?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> >> > >> > From: Lorin Beer
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> > >> > To: dev
> >> > >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> >> > >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the
> >> docs
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Hi Lorin,
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough
> >>draft
> >> > over
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > next couple days.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place.
> >>Let me
> >> > >> know
> >> > >> > > when
> >> > >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with
> >>our
> >> > >> teams
> >> > >> > > next
> >> > >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
> >> > migration
> >> > >> > > date,
> >> > >> > > > > late next week.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the
> >>docs
> >> > >> people
> >> > >> > > this
> >> > >> > > > >> afternoon.
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft
> >> while
> >> > >> I'm
> >> > >> > > > flying
> >> > >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > >> Bryan
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my
> >>experience
> >> > with
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > > > new
> >> > >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the
> >>necessary
> >> > >> > workflows
> >> > >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time
> >> consuming.
> >> > >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only
> >>blockers
> >> to
> >> > >> > > pulling
> >> > >> > > > >> the
> >> > >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would
> >> really
> >> > >> like
> >> > >> > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> see
> >> > >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull
> >> those
> >> > in
> >> > >> > > > >> alongside
> >> > >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end
> >> about
> >> > >> > this.
> >> > >> > > > What
> >> > >> > > > >> > I'd
> >> > >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external
> >> dependency.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with
> >>2.4.0-rc1
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and
> >> the
> >> > >> core
> >> > >> > BB
> >> > >> > > > >> repo
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> >> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of
> >> this
> >> > >> > > included.
> >> > >> > > > >> You
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> can
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our
> >>forks
> >> to
> >> > >> keep
> >> > >> > > tabs
> >> > >> > > > >> on
> >> > >> > > > >> > us.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the
> >> answers
> >> > to
> >> > >> > your
> >> > >> > > > >> > specific
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> questions:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they
> >>haven't
> >> yet
> >> > >> > pushed
> >> > >> > > > >> > anything
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo.
> >>For
> >> > >> > > WebWorks,
> >> > >> > > > >> it is
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the
> >>distributable.
> >> > I'm
> >> > >> > fine
> >> > >> > > > with
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
> >> > >> install
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still
> >> need
> >> > to
> >> > >> > > bring
> >> > >> > > > in
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> hello
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
> >> > blackberry10
> >> > >> > as a
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> platform.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning
> >>the
> >> > >> imminent
> >> > >> > > > >> > migration
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> of
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> >> > >> replacing
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> existing
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being
> >>tracked
> >> > >> here:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
> >> > implementation
> >> > >> is
> >> > >> > > > only 3
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> tests
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation,
> >>and
> >> is
> >> > >> > stable
> >> > >> > > > >> enough
> >> > >> > > > >> > to
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new
> >> implementation.
> >> > >> If
> >> > >> > > this
> >> > >> > > > >> work
> >> > >> > > > >> > is
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it
> >>in
> >> > the
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is
> >> not
> >> > an
> >> > >> > > issue,
> >> > >> > > > >> as I
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However,
> >>I
> >> > would
> >> > >> > like
> >> > >> > > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> see
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the
> >>npm
> >> > >> > install
> >> > >> > > > >> step)
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> rather
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
> >> > >> brought
> >> > >> > up
> >> > >> > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of
> >> cordova.js,
> >> > we
> >> > >> > need
> >> > >> > > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> add
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> this
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please
> >> chime
> >> > >> in
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > > > >> correct
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> any
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
> >> > discuss
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > > >> above.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira
> >>issue
> >> > >> > > discussion
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> threads.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>.
So just to touch on this again, BlackBerry's work on cordova-plugman has
been merged into master and is working great.
CLI still to be sorted but that's a work in progress anyways.
On 5/13/13 10:26 AM, "Lorin Beer" <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Alright, I think this is sufficient for the merge into apache master.
>We are leaving the cli and plugman contributions to Fil and Anis to sort
>out, I'll be merging
>docs
>cordova-js
>blackberry
>
>- Lorin
>
>
>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Bryan Higgins
><br...@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi Lorin,
>>
>> The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
>> pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
>>
>> There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
>> which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created
>>JIRA
>> issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
>> tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get
>>them
>> into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
>> everything again.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kw...@blackberry.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Lorin. Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ken Wallis
>> >
>> > Product Manager WebWorks
>> >
>> > BlackBerry
>> >
>> > 289-261-4369
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
>> > To: dev
>> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> >
>> > pulled into apache:
>> >
>> > github.com/blackberry/
>> > cordova-blackberry to future branch
>> > cordova-js to future branch
>> > cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
>> > cordova-plugman to apache future branch
>> >
>> >
>> > spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this
>> will
>> > likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem
>>to
>> be
>> > orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
>> >
>> > as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as
>>soon
>> as
>> > docs are in place.
>> >
>> > It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to
>>git-apache,
>> > but retarget those pull requests anytime.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > will do
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins
>><bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
>> > >> blackberry/blackberry10
>> > >>
>> > >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open
>>pull
>> > >> requests which I will re-target.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
>> > jheifetz@blackberry.com
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > What about plugman and cli?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> > >> > From: Lorin Beer
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
>> > >> > To: dev
>> > >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
>> > >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the
>> docs
>> > >> are
>> > >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Hi Lorin,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough
>>draft
>> > over
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > next couple days.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place.
>>Let me
>> > >> know
>> > >> > > when
>> > >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > - Lorin
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with
>>our
>> > >> teams
>> > >> > > next
>> > >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
>> > migration
>> > >> > > date,
>> > >> > > > > late next week.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Lorin
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >> > > > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the
>>docs
>> > >> people
>> > >> > > this
>> > >> > > > >> afternoon.
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft
>> while
>> > >> I'm
>> > >> > > > flying
>> > >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > >> > > > >> Bryan
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my
>>experience
>> > with
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > > > new
>> > >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the
>>necessary
>> > >> > workflows
>> > >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time
>> consuming.
>> > >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only
>>blockers
>> to
>> > >> > > pulling
>> > >> > > > >> the
>> > >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would
>> really
>> > >> like
>> > >> > > to
>> > >> > > > >> see
>> > >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > - Lorin
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull
>> those
>> > in
>> > >> > > > >> alongside
>> > >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end
>> about
>> > >> > this.
>> > >> > > > What
>> > >> > > > >> > I'd
>> > >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external
>> dependency.
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with
>>2.4.0-rc1
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and
>> the
>> > >> core
>> > >> > BB
>> > >> > > > >> repo
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of
>> this
>> > >> > > included.
>> > >> > > > >> You
>> > >> > > > >> > >> can
>> > >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our
>>forks
>> to
>> > >> keep
>> > >> > > tabs
>> > >> > > > >> on
>> > >> > > > >> > us.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the
>> answers
>> > to
>> > >> > your
>> > >> > > > >> > specific
>> > >> > > > >> > >> questions:
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they
>>haven't
>> yet
>> > >> > pushed
>> > >> > > > >> > anything
>> > >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo.
>>For
>> > >> > > WebWorks,
>> > >> > > > >> it is
>> > >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the
>>distributable.
>> > I'm
>> > >> > fine
>> > >> > > > with
>> > >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
>> > >> install
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still
>> need
>> > to
>> > >> > > bring
>> > >> > > > in
>> > >> > > > >> > >> hello
>> > >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
>> > blackberry10
>> > >> > as a
>> > >> > > > >> > >> platform.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning
>>the
>> > >> imminent
>> > >> > > > >> > migration
>> > >> > > > >> > >> of
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
>> > >> replacing
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > > >> > >> existing
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being
>>tracked
>> > >> here:
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
>> > implementation
>> > >> is
>> > >> > > > only 3
>> > >> > > > >> > >> tests
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation,
>>and
>> is
>> > >> > stable
>> > >> > > > >> enough
>> > >> > > > >> > to
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new
>> implementation.
>> > >> If
>> > >> > > this
>> > >> > > > >> work
>> > >> > > > >> > is
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it
>>in
>> > the
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is
>> not
>> > an
>> > >> > > issue,
>> > >> > > > >> as I
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However,
>>I
>> > would
>> > >> > like
>> > >> > > > to
>> > >> > > > >> see
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the
>>npm
>> > >> > install
>> > >> > > > >> step)
>> > >> > > > >> > >> rather
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
>> > >> brought
>> > >> > up
>> > >> > > to
>> > >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of
>> cordova.js,
>> > we
>> > >> > need
>> > >> > > > to
>> > >> > > > >> add
>> > >> > > > >> > >> this
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please
>> chime
>> > >> in
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > > > >> correct
>> > >> > > > >> > >> any
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
>> > discuss
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > >> above.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira
>>issue
>> > >> > > discussion
>> > >> > > > >> > >> threads.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
Alright, I think this is sufficient for the merge into apache master.
We are leaving the cli and plugman contributions to Fil and Anis to sort
out, I'll be merging
docs
cordova-js
blackberry
- Lorin
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
> Hi Lorin,
>
> The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
> pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
>
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
>
> There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
> which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created JIRA
> issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
> tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get them
> into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
> everything again.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kw...@blackberry.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Lorin. Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ken Wallis
> >
> > Product Manager – WebWorks
> >
> > BlackBerry
> >
> > 289-261-4369
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >
> > pulled into apache:
> >
> > github.com/blackberry/
> > cordova-blackberry to future branch
> > cordova-js to future branch
> > cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
> > cordova-plugman to apache future branch
> >
> >
> > spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this
> will
> > likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to
> be
> > orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
> >
> > as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon
> as
> > docs are in place.
> >
> > It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
> > but retarget those pull requests anytime.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > will do
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> > >> blackberry/blackberry10
> > >>
> > >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
> > >> requests which I will re-target.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
> > jheifetz@blackberry.com
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > What about plugman and cli?
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> > >> > From: Lorin Beer
> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> > >> > To: dev
> > >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> > >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the
> docs
> > >> are
> > >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Lorin,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft
> > over
> > >> the
> > >> > > next couple days.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
> > >> know
> > >> > > when
> > >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > - Lorin
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
> > >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
> > >> teams
> > >> > > next
> > >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
> > migration
> > >> > > date,
> > >> > > > > late next week.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Lorin
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> > >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >> > > > >wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
> > >> people
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > >> afternoon.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft
> while
> > >> I'm
> > >> > > > flying
> > >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
> > >> > > > >> Bryan
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience
> > with
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > new
> > >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> > >> > workflows
> > >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time
> consuming.
> > >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers
> to
> > >> > > pulling
> > >> > > > >> the
> > >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would
> really
> > >> like
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > >> see
> > >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > - Lorin
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull
> those
> > in
> > >> > > > >> alongside
> > >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end
> about
> > >> > this.
> > >> > > > What
> > >> > > > >> > I'd
> > >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external
> dependency.
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and
> the
> > >> core
> > >> > BB
> > >> > > > >> repo
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of
> this
> > >> > > included.
> > >> > > > >> You
> > >> > > > >> > >> can
> > >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks
> to
> > >> keep
> > >> > > tabs
> > >> > > > >> on
> > >> > > > >> > us.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the
> answers
> > to
> > >> > your
> > >> > > > >> > specific
> > >> > > > >> > >> questions:
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't
> yet
> > >> > pushed
> > >> > > > >> > anything
> > >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> > >> > > WebWorks,
> > >> > > > >> it is
> > >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable.
> > I'm
> > >> > fine
> > >> > > > with
> > >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
> > >> install
> > >> > on
> > >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still
> need
> > to
> > >> > > bring
> > >> > > > in
> > >> > > > >> > >> hello
> > >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
> > blackberry10
> > >> > as a
> > >> > > > >> > >> platform.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
> > >> imminent
> > >> > > > >> > migration
> > >> > > > >> > >> of
> > >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> > >> replacing
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > >> > >> existing
> > >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
> > >> here:
> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
> > implementation
> > >> is
> > >> > > > only 3
> > >> > > > >> > >> tests
> > >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and
> is
> > >> > stable
> > >> > > > >> enough
> > >> > > > >> > to
> > >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> > >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new
> implementation.
> > >> If
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > >> work
> > >> > > > >> > is
> > >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in
> > the
> > >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is
> not
> > an
> > >> > > issue,
> > >> > > > >> as I
> > >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I
> > would
> > >> > like
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > >> see
> > >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> > >> > install
> > >> > > > >> step)
> > >> > > > >> > >> rather
> > >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
> > >> brought
> > >> > up
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of
> cordova.js,
> > we
> > >> > need
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > >> add
> > >> > > > >> > >> this
> > >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please
> chime
> > >> in
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > >> correct
> > >> > > > >> > >> any
> > >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
> > discuss
> > >> the
> > >> > > > >> above.
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> > >> > > discussion
> > >> > > > >> > >> threads.
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>.
Hi Lorin,
The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created JIRA
issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get them
into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
everything again.
Thanks,
Bryan
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kw...@blackberry.com> wrote:
> Thanks Lorin. Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
>
> --
>
> Ken Wallis
>
> Product Manager – WebWorks
>
> BlackBerry
>
> 289-261-4369
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>
> pulled into apache:
>
> github.com/blackberry/
> cordova-blackberry to future branch
> cordova-js to future branch
> cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
> cordova-plugman to apache future branch
>
>
> spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this will
> likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to be
> orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
>
> as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon as
> docs are in place.
>
> It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
> but retarget those pull requests anytime.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > will do
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> >> blackberry/blackberry10
> >>
> >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
> >> requests which I will re-target.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
> jheifetz@blackberry.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > What about plugman and cli?
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> >> > From: Lorin Beer
> >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs
> >> are
> >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Lorin,
> >> > >
> >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft
> over
> >> the
> >> > > next couple days.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
> >> know
> >> > > when
> >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - Lorin
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
> >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
> >> teams
> >> > > next
> >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
> migration
> >> > > date,
> >> > > > > late next week.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Lorin
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
> >> people
> >> > > this
> >> > > > >> afternoon.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while
> >> I'm
> >> > > > flying
> >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Thanks,
> >> > > > >> Bryan
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience
> with
> >> > the
> >> > > > new
> >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> >> > workflows
> >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> >> > > pulling
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really
> >> like
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> see
> >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > - Lorin
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those
> in
> >> > > > >> alongside
> >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
> >> > this.
> >> > > > What
> >> > > > >> > I'd
> >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the
> >> core
> >> > BB
> >> > > > >> repo
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> >> > > included.
> >> > > > >> You
> >> > > > >> > >> can
> >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to
> >> keep
> >> > > tabs
> >> > > > >> on
> >> > > > >> > us.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers
> to
> >> > your
> >> > > > >> > specific
> >> > > > >> > >> questions:
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
> >> > pushed
> >> > > > >> > anything
> >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> >> > > WebWorks,
> >> > > > >> it is
> >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable.
> I'm
> >> > fine
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
> >> install
> >> > on
> >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need
> to
> >> > > bring
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > >> > >> hello
> >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
> blackberry10
> >> > as a
> >> > > > >> > >> platform.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
> >> imminent
> >> > > > >> > migration
> >> > > > >> > >> of
> >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> >> replacing
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >> > >> existing
> >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
> >> here:
> >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
> implementation
> >> is
> >> > > > only 3
> >> > > > >> > >> tests
> >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
> >> > stable
> >> > > > >> enough
> >> > > > >> > to
> >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation.
> >> If
> >> > > this
> >> > > > >> work
> >> > > > >> > is
> >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in
> the
> >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not
> an
> >> > > issue,
> >> > > > >> as I
> >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I
> would
> >> > like
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> see
> >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> >> > install
> >> > > > >> step)
> >> > > > >> > >> rather
> >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
> >> brought
> >> > up
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js,
> we
> >> > need
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> add
> >> > > > >> > >> this
> >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime
> >> in
> >> > to
> >> > > > >> correct
> >> > > > >> > >> any
> >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
> discuss
> >> the
> >> > > > >> above.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> >> > > discussion
> >> > > > >> > >> threads.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
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RE: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Ken Wallis <kw...@blackberry.com>.
Thanks Lorin. Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
--
Ken Wallis
Product Manager – WebWorks
BlackBerry
289-261-4369
________________________________________
From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
pulled into apache:
github.com/blackberry/
cordova-blackberry to future branch
cordova-js to future branch
cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
cordova-plugman to apache future branch
spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this will
likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to be
orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon as
docs are in place.
It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
but retarget those pull requests anytime.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> will do
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
>> blackberry/blackberry10
>>
>> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
>> requests which I will re-target.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jheifetz@blackberry.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > What about plugman and cli?
>> >
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> > From: Lorin Beer
>> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
>> > To: dev
>> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> >
>> >
>> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
>> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs
>> are
>> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Lorin,
>> > >
>> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over
>> the
>> > > next couple days.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
>> know
>> > > when
>> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
>> > > >
>> > > > - Lorin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
>> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
>> teams
>> > > next
>> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
>> > > date,
>> > > > > late next week.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lorin
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
>> people
>> > > this
>> > > > >> afternoon.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while
>> I'm
>> > > > flying
>> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> Bryan
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
>> > the
>> > > > new
>> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
>> > workflows
>> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
>> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
>> > > pulling
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really
>> like
>> > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
>> > > > >> alongside
>> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
>> > this.
>> > > > What
>> > > > >> > I'd
>> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the
>> core
>> > BB
>> > > > >> repo
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
>> > > included.
>> > > > >> You
>> > > > >> > >> can
>> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to
>> keep
>> > > tabs
>> > > > >> on
>> > > > >> > us.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
>> > your
>> > > > >> > specific
>> > > > >> > >> questions:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
>> > pushed
>> > > > >> > anything
>> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
>> > > WebWorks,
>> > > > >> it is
>> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
>> > fine
>> > > > with
>> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
>> install
>> > on
>> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
>> > > bring
>> > > > in
>> > > > >> > >> hello
>> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
>> > as a
>> > > > >> > >> platform.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
>> imminent
>> > > > >> > migration
>> > > > >> > >> of
>> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
>> replacing
>> > > the
>> > > > >> > >> existing
>> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
>> here:
>> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation
>> is
>> > > > only 3
>> > > > >> > >> tests
>> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
>> > stable
>> > > > >> enough
>> > > > >> > to
>> > > > >> > >> > accept.
>> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation.
>> If
>> > > this
>> > > > >> work
>> > > > >> > is
>> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
>> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
>> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
>> > > issue,
>> > > > >> as I
>> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
>> > like
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
>> > install
>> > > > >> step)
>> > > > >> > >> rather
>> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
>> brought
>> > up
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > 2.7.0
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
>> > need
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> add
>> > > > >> > >> this
>> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime
>> in
>> > to
>> > > > >> correct
>> > > > >> > >> any
>> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss
>> the
>> > > > >> above.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
>> > > discussion
>> > > > >> > >> threads.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
pulled into apache:
github.com/blackberry/
cordova-blackberry to future branch
cordova-js to future branch
cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
cordova-plugman to apache future branch
spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this will
likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to be
orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon as
docs are in place.
It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
but retarget those pull requests anytime.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> will do
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
>> blackberry/blackberry10
>>
>> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
>> requests which I will re-target.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jheifetz@blackberry.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > What about plugman and cli?
>> >
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> > From: Lorin Beer
>> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
>> > To: dev
>> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> >
>> >
>> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
>> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs
>> are
>> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Lorin,
>> > >
>> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over
>> the
>> > > next couple days.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
>> know
>> > > when
>> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
>> > > >
>> > > > - Lorin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
>> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
>> teams
>> > > next
>> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
>> > > date,
>> > > > > late next week.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lorin
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
>> people
>> > > this
>> > > > >> afternoon.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while
>> I'm
>> > > > flying
>> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> Bryan
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
>> > the
>> > > > new
>> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
>> > workflows
>> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
>> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
>> > > pulling
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really
>> like
>> > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
>> > > > >> alongside
>> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
>> > this.
>> > > > What
>> > > > >> > I'd
>> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the
>> core
>> > BB
>> > > > >> repo
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
>> > > included.
>> > > > >> You
>> > > > >> > >> can
>> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to
>> keep
>> > > tabs
>> > > > >> on
>> > > > >> > us.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
>> > your
>> > > > >> > specific
>> > > > >> > >> questions:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
>> > pushed
>> > > > >> > anything
>> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
>> > > WebWorks,
>> > > > >> it is
>> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
>> > fine
>> > > > with
>> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
>> install
>> > on
>> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
>> > > bring
>> > > > in
>> > > > >> > >> hello
>> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
>> > as a
>> > > > >> > >> platform.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
>> imminent
>> > > > >> > migration
>> > > > >> > >> of
>> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
>> replacing
>> > > the
>> > > > >> > >> existing
>> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
>> here:
>> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation
>> is
>> > > > only 3
>> > > > >> > >> tests
>> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
>> > stable
>> > > > >> enough
>> > > > >> > to
>> > > > >> > >> > accept.
>> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation.
>> If
>> > > this
>> > > > >> work
>> > > > >> > is
>> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
>> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
>> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
>> > > issue,
>> > > > >> as I
>> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
>> > like
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
>> > install
>> > > > >> step)
>> > > > >> > >> rather
>> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
>> brought
>> > up
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > 2.7.0
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
>> > need
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> add
>> > > > >> > >> this
>> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime
>> in
>> > to
>> > > > >> correct
>> > > > >> > >> any
>> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss
>> the
>> > > > >> above.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
>> > > discussion
>> > > > >> > >> threads.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
will do
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> blackberry/blackberry10
>
> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
> requests which I will re-target.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jheifetz@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
>
> > What about plugman and cli?
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> > From: Lorin Beer
> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> > To: dev
> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >
> >
> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs
> are
> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Lorin,
> > >
> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over
> the
> > > next couple days.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> > > >
> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know
> > > when
> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> > > >
> > > > - Lorin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams
> > > next
> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
> > > date,
> > > > > late next week.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lorin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people
> > > this
> > > > >> afternoon.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while
> I'm
> > > > flying
> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Bryan
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
> > the
> > > > new
> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> > workflows
> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> > > pulling
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really
> like
> > > to
> > > > >> see
> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > - Lorin
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> > > > >> alongside
> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
> > this.
> > > > What
> > > > >> > I'd
> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the
> core
> > BB
> > > > >> repo
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > > > >> > >wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> > > included.
> > > > >> You
> > > > >> > >> can
> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to
> keep
> > > tabs
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> > us.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
> > your
> > > > >> > specific
> > > > >> > >> questions:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
> > pushed
> > > > >> > anything
> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> > > WebWorks,
> > > > >> it is
> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
> > fine
> > > > with
> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install
> > on
> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
> > > bring
> > > > in
> > > > >> > >> hello
> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
> > as a
> > > > >> > >> platform.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
> imminent
> > > > >> > migration
> > > > >> > >> of
> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> replacing
> > > the
> > > > >> > >> existing
> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
> here:
> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation
> is
> > > > only 3
> > > > >> > >> tests
> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
> > stable
> > > > >> enough
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If
> > > this
> > > > >> work
> > > > >> > is
> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
> > > issue,
> > > > >> as I
> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > >> see
> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> > install
> > > > >> step)
> > > > >> > >> rather
> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought
> > up
> > > to
> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > >> add
> > > > >> > >> this
> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in
> > to
> > > > >> correct
> > > > >> > >> any
> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss
> the
> > > > >> above.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> > > discussion
> > > > >> > >> threads.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>.
Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
blackberry/blackberry10
Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
requests which I will re-target.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> What about plugman and cli?
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> From: Lorin Beer
> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> To: dev
> Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>
>
> ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs are
> ready, we'll merge them into master.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Lorin,
> >
> > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over the
> > next couple days.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> > >
> > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know
> > when
> > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> > >
> > > - Lorin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams
> > next
> > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
> > date,
> > > > late next week.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > > >
> > > > Lorin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Lorin,
> > > >>
> > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people
> > this
> > > >> afternoon.
> > > >>
> > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm
> > > flying
> > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Bryan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
> the
> > > new
> > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> workflows
> > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> > pulling
> > > >> the
> > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like
> > to
> > > >> see
> > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Lorin
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > >> > >wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> > > >> alongside
> > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
> this.
> > > What
> > > >> > I'd
> > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core
> BB
> > > >> repo
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > > >> > >wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> > included.
> > > >> You
> > > >> > >> can
> > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep
> > tabs
> > > >> on
> > > >> > us.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
> your
> > > >> > specific
> > > >> > >> questions:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
> pushed
> > > >> > anything
> > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> > WebWorks,
> > > >> it is
> > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
> fine
> > > with
> > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install
> on
> > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
> > bring
> > > in
> > > >> > >> hello
> > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
> as a
> > > >> > >> platform.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> > > >> > migration
> > > >> > >> of
> > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing
> > the
> > > >> > >> existing
> > > >> > >> > implementation.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is
> > > only 3
> > > >> > >> tests
> > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
> stable
> > > >> enough
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > >> > accept.
> > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If
> > this
> > > >> work
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
> > issue,
> > > >> as I
> > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
> like
> > > to
> > > >> see
> > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> install
> > > >> step)
> > > >> > >> rather
> > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought
> up
> > to
> > > >> > 2.7.0
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
> need
> > > to
> > > >> add
> > > >> > >> this
> > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in
> to
> > > >> correct
> > > >> > >> any
> > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
> > > >> above.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> > discussion
> > > >> > >> threads.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public
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> please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Jeffrey Heifetz <jh...@blackberry.com>.
What about plugman and cli?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
From: Lorin Beer
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
To: dev
Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs are
ready, we'll merge them into master.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> Hi Lorin,
>
> That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over the
> next couple days.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >
> > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know
> when
> > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >
> > - Lorin
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams
> next
> > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
> date,
> > > late next week.
> > >
> > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > >
> > > Lorin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Lorin,
> > >>
> > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people
> this
> > >> afternoon.
> > >>
> > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm
> > flying
> > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Bryan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > >> >
> > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the
> > new
> > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
> > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> pulling
> > >> the
> > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like
> to
> > >> see
> > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > >> >
> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> > >> alongside
> > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this.
> > What
> > >> > I'd
> > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB
> > >> repo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> included.
> > >> You
> > >> > >> can
> > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep
> tabs
> > >> on
> > >> > us.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
> > >> > specific
> > >> > >> questions:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
> > >> > anything
> > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> WebWorks,
> > >> it is
> > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine
> > with
> > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
> bring
> > in
> > >> > >> hello
> > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
> > >> > >> platform.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> > >> > migration
> > >> > >> of
> > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing
> the
> > >> > >> existing
> > >> > >> > implementation.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is
> > only 3
> > >> > >> tests
> > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable
> > >> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> > >> > accept.
> > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If
> this
> > >> work
> > >> > is
> > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
> issue,
> > >> as I
> > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like
> > to
> > >> see
> > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install
> > >> step)
> > >> > >> rather
> > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up
> to
> > >> > 2.7.0
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need
> > to
> > >> add
> > >> > >> this
> > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to
> > >> correct
> > >> > >> any
> > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
> > >> above.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> discussion
> > >> > >> threads.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs are
ready, we'll merge them into master.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> Hi Lorin,
>
> That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over the
> next couple days.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >
> > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know
> when
> > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >
> > - Lorin
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams
> next
> > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
> date,
> > > late next week.
> > >
> > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> > >
> > > Lorin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Lorin,
> > >>
> > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people
> this
> > >> afternoon.
> > >>
> > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm
> > flying
> > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Bryan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Bryan,
> > >> >
> > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the
> > new
> > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
> > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
> pulling
> > >> the
> > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like
> to
> > >> see
> > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> > >> >
> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > thanks Bryan
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> > >> alongside
> > >> > > the core BB implementation
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this.
> > What
> > >> > I'd
> > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB
> > >> repo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
> included.
> > >> You
> > >> > >> can
> > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep
> tabs
> > >> on
> > >> > us.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
> > >> > specific
> > >> > >> questions:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
> > >> > anything
> > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> WebWorks,
> > >> it is
> > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine
> > with
> > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
> bring
> > in
> > >> > >> hello
> > >> > >> world and update versions.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
> > >> > >> platform.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> > >> > migration
> > >> > >> of
> > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing
> the
> > >> > >> existing
> > >> > >> > implementation.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is
> > only 3
> > >> > >> tests
> > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable
> > >> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> > >> > accept.
> > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If
> this
> > >> work
> > >> > is
> > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 2. create script
> > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
> issue,
> > >> as I
> > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like
> > to
> > >> see
> > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install
> > >> step)
> > >> > >> rather
> > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up
> to
> > >> > 2.7.0
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need
> > to
> > >> add
> > >> > >> this
> > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to
> > >> correct
> > >> > >> any
> > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
> > >> above.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> discussion
> > >> > >> threads.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>.
Hi Lorin,
That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over the
next couple days.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>
> I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know when
> you can push a rough draft at us!
>
> - Lorin
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams next
> > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration date,
> > late next week.
> >
> > thanks for the update Bryan,
> >
> > Lorin
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lorin,
> >>
> >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people this
> >> afternoon.
> >>
> >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm
> flying
> >> out to Max on Sunday.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bryan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Bryan,
> >> >
> >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the
> new
> >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
> >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to pulling
> >> the
> >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like to
> >> see
> >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >> >
> >> > - Lorin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > thanks Bryan
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
> >> alongside
> >> > > the core BB implementation
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this.
> What
> >> > I'd
> >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> >> > >
> >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> >> > >
> >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB
> >> repo
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included.
> >> You
> >> > >> can
> >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs
> >> on
> >> > us.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
> >> > specific
> >> > >> questions:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
> >> > anything
> >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks,
> >> it is
> >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine
> with
> >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring
> in
> >> > >> hello
> >> > >> world and update versions.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
> >> > >> platform.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> >> > migration
> >> > >> of
> >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
> >> > >> existing
> >> > >> > implementation.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is
> only 3
> >> > >> tests
> >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable
> >> enough
> >> > to
> >> > >> > accept.
> >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1. documentation
> >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > >> > - getting started guide
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this
> >> work
> >> > is
> >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 2. create script
> >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue,
> >> as I
> >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like
> to
> >> see
> >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install
> >> step)
> >> > >> rather
> >> > >> > than explicitly.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to
> >> > 2.7.0
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need
> to
> >> add
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to
> >> correct
> >> > >> any
> >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
> >> above.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
> >> > >> threads.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > - Lorin
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Bryan, a quick update:
I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me know when
you can push a rough draft at us!
- Lorin
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams next
> week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration date,
> late next week.
>
> thanks for the update Bryan,
>
> Lorin
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Lorin,
>>
>> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people this
>> afternoon.
>>
>> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm flying
>> out to Max on Sunday.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Bryan,
>> >
>> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the new
>> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
>> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
>> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to pulling
>> the
>> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like to
>> see
>> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> >
>> > - Lorin
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > thanks Bryan
>> > >
>> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
>> alongside
>> > > the core BB implementation
>> > >
>> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this. What
>> > I'd
>> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
>> > >
>> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
>> > >
>> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB
>> repo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > >>
>> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included.
>> You
>> > >> can
>> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs
>> on
>> > us.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
>> > specific
>> > >> questions:
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
>> > anything
>> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks,
>> it is
>> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
>> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
>> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > >>
>> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > >>
>> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in
>> > >> hello
>> > >> world and update versions.
>> > >>
>> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
>> > >> platform.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
>> > migration
>> > >> of
>> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
>> > >> existing
>> > >> > implementation.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > >> >
>> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3
>> > >> tests
>> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable
>> enough
>> > to
>> > >> > accept.
>> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > >> >
>> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this
>> work
>> > is
>> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
>> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 2. create script
>> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue,
>> as I
>> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to
>> see
>> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install
>> step)
>> > >> rather
>> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to
>> > 2.7.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to
>> add
>> > >> this
>> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to
>> correct
>> > >> any
>> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the
>> above.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
>> > >> threads.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > - Lorin
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our teams next
week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration date,
late next week.
thanks for the update Bryan,
Lorin
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>wrote:
> Hi Lorin,
>
> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people this
> afternoon.
>
> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm flying
> out to Max on Sunday.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bryan,
> >
> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the new
> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to pulling the
> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like to see
> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >
> > - Lorin
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > thanks Bryan
> > >
> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in alongside
> > > the core BB implementation
> > >
> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this. What
> > I'd
> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> > >
> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> > >
> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB repo
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> > >>
> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included.
> You
> > >> can
> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs on
> > us.
> > >>
> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
> > specific
> > >> questions:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
> > anything
> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> > >>
> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks, it
> is
> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> > >>
> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> > >>
> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in
> > >> hello
> > >> world and update versions.
> > >>
> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
> > >> platform.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> > migration
> > >> of
> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
> > >> existing
> > >> > implementation.
> > >> >
> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> > >> >
> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3
> > >> tests
> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable
> enough
> > to
> > >> > accept.
> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. documentation
> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> > >> > - getting started guide
> > >> >
> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this
> work
> > is
> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. create script
> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue,
> as I
> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to
> see
> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step)
> > >> rather
> > >> > than explicitly.
> > >> >
> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> > >> >
> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to
> > 2.7.0
> > >> >
> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to
> add
> > >> this
> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> > >> >
> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to
> correct
> > >> any
> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
> > >> threads.
> > >> >
> > >> > - Lorin
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Bryan Higgins <bh...@blackberry.com>.
Hi Lorin,
We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs people this
afternoon.
If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while I'm flying
out to Max on Sunday.
Thanks,
Bryan
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
>
> any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the new
> codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
> (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
> Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to pulling the
> blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like to see
> this happen this week or early next week.
>
> - Lorin
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > thanks Bryan
> >
> > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in alongside
> > the core BB implementation
> >
> > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this. What
> I'd
> > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
> >
> > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> >
> > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB repo
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >>
> >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included. You
> >> can
> >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs on
> us.
> >>
> >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your
> specific
> >> questions:
> >>
> >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed
> anything
> >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >>
> >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks, it is
> >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
> >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >>
> >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >>
> >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in
> >> hello
> >> world and update versions.
> >>
> >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
> >> platform.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent
> migration
> >> of
> >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
> >> existing
> >> > implementation.
> >> >
> >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> >
> >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3
> >> tests
> >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable enough
> to
> >> > accept.
> >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> >
> >> > 1. documentation
> >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > - getting started guide
> >> >
> >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this work
> is
> >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> >
> >> > 2. create script
> >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue, as I
> >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to see
> >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step)
> >> rather
> >> > than explicitly.
> >> >
> >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> >
> >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to
> 2.7.0
> >> >
> >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to add
> >> this
> >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> >
> >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to correct
> >> any
> >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
> >> >
> >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
> >> threads.
> >> >
> >> > - Lorin
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Bryan,
any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with the new
codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary workflows
(plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to pulling the
blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really like to see
this happen this week or early next week.
- Lorin
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> thanks Bryan
>
> 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in alongside
> the core BB implementation
>
> 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this. What I'd
> like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
>
> 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
>
> 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB repo
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>>
>> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included. You
>> can
>> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs on us.
>>
>> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your specific
>> questions:
>>
>> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed anything
>> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>>
>> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks, it is
>> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
>> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
>> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>>
>> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>>
>> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in
>> hello
>> world and update versions.
>>
>> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a
>> platform.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent migration
>> of
>> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
>> existing
>> > implementation.
>> >
>> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> >
>> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3
>> tests
>> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable enough to
>> > accept.
>> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> >
>> > 1. documentation
>> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > - getting started guide
>> >
>> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this work is
>> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
>> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> >
>> > 2. create script
>> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue, as I
>> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to see
>> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step)
>> rather
>> > than explicitly.
>> >
>> > 3. project create scripts
>> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> >
>> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to 2.7.0
>> >
>> > 5. cordova-js
>> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to add
>> this
>> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> >
>> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to correct
>> any
>> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
>> >
>> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
>> threads.
>> >
>> > - Lorin
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
thanks Bryan
1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in alongside the
core BB implementation
2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about this. What I'd
like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the core BB repo
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>
> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included. You can
> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs on us.
>
> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your specific
> questions:
>
> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed anything
> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>
> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks, it is
> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>
> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>
> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in hello
> world and update versions.
>
> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a platform.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent migration
> of
> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the
> existing
> > implementation.
> >
> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >
> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3 tests
> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable enough to
> > accept.
> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >
> > 1. documentation
> > - BB10 plugin development
> > - getting started guide
> >
> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this work is
> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >
> > 2. create script
> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue, as I
> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to see
> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step)
> rather
> > than explicitly.
> >
> > 3. project create scripts
> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >
> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to 2.7.0
> >
> > 5. cordova-js
> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to add
> this
> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >
> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to correct
> any
> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
> >
> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion
> threads.
> >
> > - Lorin
> >
>
Re: blackberry 10 migration
Posted by Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>.
Thanks for following up Lorin.
We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this included. You can
follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to keep tabs on us.
I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to your specific
questions:
1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet pushed anything
to the fork. I'll follow up.
2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For WebWorks, it is
added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm fine with
adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm install on
./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
3. Agree, help message could be improved
4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to bring in hello
world and update versions.
5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10 as a platform.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to keep the conversation going concerning the imminent migration of
> BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova, replacing the existing
> implementation.
>
> The issues that need to be completed are being tracked here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>
> With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation is only 3 tests
> behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is stable enough to
> accept.
> There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>
> 1. documentation
> - BB10 plugin development
> - getting started guide
>
> both need to be updated to match the new implementation. If this work is
> done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
> Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>
> 2. create script
> the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an issue, as I
> understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would like to see
> package configuration to happen automatically (the npm install step) rather
> than explicitly.
>
> 3. project create scripts
> needs better help messages and documentation
>
> 4. 2.7.0 support
> build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be brought up to 2.7.0
>
> 5. cordova-js
> it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we need to add this
> to platforms in cordova-js
>
> Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime in to correct any
> misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss the above.
>
> I would also encourage participation on the jira issue discussion threads.
>
> - Lorin
>