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version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Hello,
Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
Regards,
Heidi
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Consider also https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
Jacques
From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> yes, but compared to keep the code so a change does not effect custom
> code is better than having to redo a large code base it depends on.
>
> Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/31/2012 3:22 AM:
>> That approach is what I like to call an internal fork. It is a good way
>> to maintain control of the codebase, but it is expensive to maintain.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 1/31/2012 10:15 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
>>> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
>>> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>>>
>>> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>
>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
yes, but compared to keep the code so a change does not effect custom
code is better than having to redo a large code base it depends on.
Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/31/2012 3:22 AM:
> That approach is what I like to call an internal fork. It is a good way
> to maintain control of the codebase, but it is expensive to maintain.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 1/31/2012 10:15 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
>> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
>> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>>
>> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
That approach is what I like to call an internal fork. It is a good way
to maintain control of the codebase, but it is expensive to maintain.
-Adrian
On 1/31/2012 10:15 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>
> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>
>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/mailing-lists.html
commits@ofbiz.apache.org
this will give you thee actual commit files.
Info Olagos sent the following on 1/31/2012 2:29 AM:
> Hello,
>
> Ok that seems me a good idea.
> But where to find these commits? and from which commit on to start.
>
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/31, BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>:
>> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
>> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
>> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>>
>> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Paul,
Now i understand the way you work with the release and the commits.
Ok then i think to install however version 11.4 and installing the
commits everytime.
Regards,
Heidi
2012/1/31, Paul Foxworthy <pa...@cohsoft.com.au>:
> Hi Heidi,
>
> See
> https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html
>
> Fisheye will also show you a history of commits. See
> https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/changelog/ofbiz and
> https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/ofbiz .
>
> From the commit graph you can see that release 11.04 was branched on 2 May
> 2011 from revision r1098578 of trunk.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul Foxworthy
>
>
> Info Olagos wrote
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ok that seems me a good idea.
>> But where to find these commits? and from which commit on to start.
>>
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/31, BJ Freeman <bjfree@>:
>>> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
>>> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
>>> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>>>
>>> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>
>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olagos bvba
>> http://www.olagos.eu <http://www.olagos.eu/>
>> http://www.olagos.com
>> http://www.olagos.be
>> http://www.olagos.nl
>> Olagos team
>> Heesterbos 5
>> 2570 Duffel
>> Belgium
>>
>
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>
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Paul Foxworthy <pa...@cohsoft.com.au>.
Hi Heidi,
See
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html
Fisheye will also show you a history of commits. See
https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/changelog/ofbiz and
https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/ofbiz .
>From the commit graph you can see that release 11.04 was branched on 2 May
2011 from revision r1098578 of trunk.
Cheers
Paul Foxworthy
Info Olagos wrote
>
> Hello,
>
> Ok that seems me a good idea.
> But where to find these commits? and from which commit on to start.
>
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/31, BJ Freeman <bjfree@>:
>> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
>> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
>> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>>
>> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Olagos bvba
> http://www.olagos.eu <http://www.olagos.eu/>
> http://www.olagos.com
> http://www.olagos.be
> http://www.olagos.nl
> Olagos team
> Heesterbos 5
> 2570 Duffel
> Belgium
>
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
Ok that seems me a good idea.
But where to find these commits? and from which commit on to start.
Heidi
2012/1/31, BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>:
> if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
> suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
> reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
>
> Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>
>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>
--
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http://www.olagos.eu <http://www.olagos.eu/>
http://www.olagos.com
http://www.olagos.be
http://www.olagos.nl
Olagos team
Heesterbos 5
2570 Duffel
Belgium
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
if you want control of your code and want the latest and greatest I
suggest you maintain your own code repository, and use the commits after
reviewing them. Then run you full tests against the the complete system.
Info Olagos sent the following on 1/27/2012 2:48 AM:
> Hello,
>
> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>
> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Ok. Will try the trunk then.
Heidi
2012/1/27, Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>:
> In that case, they are all the same.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 1/27/2012 11:49 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> Hello Adrian,
>>
>> I mean by stable that the software runs continuously without too much
>> stops by possible errors.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/27, Adrian Crum<ad...@sandglass-software.com>:
>>> What do you mean by stable? In other words, what does "stable" mean to
>>> you?
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> On 1/27/2012 10:48 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>
>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>
>
--
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http://www.olagos.eu <http://www.olagos.eu/>
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Heesterbos 5
2570 Duffel
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
In that case, they are all the same.
-Adrian
On 1/27/2012 11:49 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Hello Adrian,
>
> I mean by stable that the software runs continuously without too much
> stops by possible errors.
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27, Adrian Crum<ad...@sandglass-software.com>:
>> What do you mean by stable? In other words, what does "stable" mean to you?
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 1/27/2012 10:48 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Hello Adrian,
I mean by stable that the software runs continuously without too much
stops by possible errors.
Regards,
Heidi
2012/1/27, Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>:
> What do you mean by stable? In other words, what does "stable" mean to you?
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 1/27/2012 10:48 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>
>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>
--
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http://www.olagos.eu <http://www.olagos.eu/>
http://www.olagos.com
http://www.olagos.be
http://www.olagos.nl
Olagos team
Heesterbos 5
2570 Duffel
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
What do you mean by stable? In other words, what does "stable" mean to you?
-Adrian
On 1/27/2012 10:48 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>
> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
ok thank you Jacopo
Heidi
2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>
> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>
> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
>> Heidi,
>>
>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>
>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>> ok thank you.
>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>
>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>
>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>> -----
>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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http://www.olagos.com
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
But then again, the 11.04 (upcoming release) does not contain improvements
and fixes in trunk since april 2011. For what is in OFBiz see:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+Features
Regards,
Pierre Smits
2012/1/31 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Heidi,
>
> it mostly depends on what you are looking for: the upgrade to 10.04 would
> be simpler and 10.04 may be more stable than the upcoming 11.04 release or
> the trunk; but if you are looking for all new features then you may want to
> wait for the 11.04 release or get the trunk.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
> >
> > To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
> >
> > Heidi
> >
> > 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> >> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying
> the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans'
> company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
> >>
> >> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
> >> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
> >>
> >> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series
> (with feature freezed on April 2011)
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> >> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>
> >>> Heidi,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in
> less than a couple of hours of work.....
> >>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a
> blocking error is solved within hours.....
> >>>
> >>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs
> on trunk)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> >>>> ok thank you.
> >>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Heidi
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
> >>>>> Hi Heidi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
> >>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards, Hans
> >>>>> -----
> >>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version:
> http://ofbizsaas.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Heidi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Olagos bvba
> > http://www.olagos.eu
> > http://www.olagos.com
> > http://www.olagos.be
> > http://www.olagos.nl
> > Olagos team
> > Heesterbos 5
> > 2570 Duffel
> > Belgium
>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Heidi,
it mostly depends on what you are looking for: the upgrade to 10.04 would be simpler and 10.04 may be more stable than the upcoming 11.04 release or the trunk; but if you are looking for all new features then you may want to wait for the 11.04 release or get the trunk.
Kind regards,
Jacopo
On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Jacopo,
>
> So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
>
> To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
>
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>>
>> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
>> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>>
>> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> Heidi,
>>>
>>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>>
>>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> ok thank you.
>>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>>
>>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>>> -----
>>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Olagos bvba
> http://www.olagos.eu
> http://www.olagos.com
> http://www.olagos.be
> http://www.olagos.nl
> Olagos team
> Heesterbos 5
> 2570 Duffel
> Belgium
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
My two cents :
when you change any code you have reduced the reliability of code that
depends on that code.
The More code that is changed, the less the reliability.
Till rigorous testing of all code that depends on the code changed,, one
can not say it is dependable.
Though code is Frozen in releases as candidates, no one demonstrated
this level of testing.
With that said, what will Be, 11.04. has had not only code but structure
changes, compared to 10.4.
It has been said that those that have an interest and are first to add
code set the tone of what they put in, wheather any code review has been
done.
I can point out many instances where code does not follow good coding
practices and/or follow the design of ofbiz.
And yes I have attempted t point this out and it has fell on deaf ears.
So yes those that want stability and dependability must take
responsibility to do there own testing.
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 1/28/2012 5:41 AM:
> Jacopo:
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> Would it also be fair to say that there is no Apache OFBiz project
> "official" upgrade path or document?
>
> Each OFBiz user is on their own when it comes to upgrade policies and
> procedures?
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth
>
> On 1/27/12 2:49 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> Jacopo,
>>
>> So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
>>
>> To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
>>
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato<ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>>> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or
>>> conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context
>>> "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache
>>> OFBiz project and community.
>>>
>>> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
>>> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>>>
>>> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series
>>> (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heidi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in
>>>> less than a couple of hours of work.....
>>>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a
>>>> blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>>>
>>>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also
>>>> runs on trunk)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>> ok thank you.
>>>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version:
>>>>>> http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Jacopo:
Thanks for the clarification.
Would it also be fair to say that there is no Apache OFBiz project
"official" upgrade path or document?
Each OFBiz user is on their own when it comes to upgrade policies and
procedures?
Best Regards,
Ruth
On 1/27/12 2:49 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Jacopo,
>
> So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
>
> To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
>
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato<ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>>
>> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
>> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>>
>> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> Heidi,
>>>
>>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>>
>>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> ok thank you.
>>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>>
>>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>>> -----
>>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>
>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
ok thank you Scott.
Heidi
2012/1/30 Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> IMO, each release/version is a balance of stability vs. new features. The older a release is, the more deployments it has seen and the more likely it is that most major bugs have been fixed. If you don't need the features in the newer versions (most don't) then the older versions are a better choice IMO.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 28/01/2012, at 8:49 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
>
>> Jacopo,
>>
>> So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
>>
>> To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
>>
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>>> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>>>
>>> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
>>> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>>>
>>> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heidi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>>>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>>>
>>>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>> ok thank you.
>>>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.olagos.eu
>> http://www.olagos.com
>> http://www.olagos.be
>> http://www.olagos.nl
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>> Heesterbos 5
>> 2570 Duffel
>> Belgium
>
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
IMO, each release/version is a balance of stability vs. new features. The older a release is, the more deployments it has seen and the more likely it is that most major bugs have been fixed. If you don't need the features in the newer versions (most don't) then the older versions are a better choice IMO.
Regards
Scott
On 28/01/2012, at 8:49 AM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Jacopo,
>
> So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
>
> To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
>
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>>
>> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
>> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>>
>> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> Heidi,
>>>
>>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>>
>>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> ok thank you.
>>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>>
>>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>>> -----
>>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Olagos bvba
> http://www.olagos.eu
> http://www.olagos.com
> http://www.olagos.be
> http://www.olagos.nl
> Olagos team
> Heesterbos 5
> 2570 Duffel
> Belgium
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Jacopo,
So what is then the most intelligent to upgrade from version 09.04 ?
To release 10.04 or to the trunk?
Heidi
2012/1/27 Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
>
> 10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
> 09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
>
> Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
>> Heidi,
>>
>> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
>> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>>
>> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>> ok thank you.
>>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>>
>>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>>
>>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Hans
>>>> -----
>>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Just to clarify: Hans is expressing a personal opinion and/or conveying the marketing message of his own company; in this context "us" means Hans' company, and it is not associated to the Apache OFBiz project and community.
10.04 is the latest official release with features freezed on April 2010
09.04.01 is an official release with features freezed on April 2009
Soon we should release the first official release on the 11.04 series (with feature freezed on April 2011)
Kind regards,
Jacopo
On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> Heidi,
>
> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in less than a couple of hours of work.....
> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a blocking error is solved within hours.....
>
> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on trunk)
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> ok thank you.
>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>
>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>
>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>
>>> Regards, Hans
>>> -----
>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>
>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
Oh my husband is also online.
Pse send your answer to my info.olagos@gmail.com address.
regards,
Heidi
2012/1/27, Eric.LENS@ec.europa.eu <Er...@ec.europa.eu>:
> Hans,
>
> This interests me very.
>
> What is your SAAS solution exactly?
>
> Give me also more information on your support contract pse.
>
> Thanks,
> Heidi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Bakker [mailto:mailinglist@antwebsystems.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: Info Olagos
> Cc: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
>
> Heidi,
>
> Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in
> less than a couple of hours of work.....
> If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a
> blocking error is solved within hours.....
>
> Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on
> trunk)
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> ok thank you.
>> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>>> Hi Heidi,
>>>
>>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>>
>>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>>
>>> Regards, Hans
>>> -----
>>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>>
>>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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RE: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Er...@ec.europa.eu.
Hans,
This interests me very.
What is your SAAS solution exactly?
Give me also more information on your support contract pse.
Thanks,
Heidi
-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Bakker [mailto:mailinglist@antwebsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:05 PM
To: Info Olagos
Cc: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Heidi,
Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in
less than a couple of hours of work.....
If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a
blocking error is solved within hours.....
Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on
trunk)
Regards,
Hans
On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> ok thank you.
> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>> Hi Heidi,
>>
>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>
>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>
>> Regards, Hans
>> -----
>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>
>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
Heidi,
Yes, AND upgrading much easier...we do it at least every 3 months in
less than a couple of hours of work.....
If you have a support contract with us, we even guarantee that a
blocking error is solved within hours.....
Or of course try our SAAS solution at http://ofbizsaas.com (also runs on
trunk)
Regards,
Hans
On 01/27/2012 07:00 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> ok thank you.
> So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>
> 2012/1/27, Hans Bakker<ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
>> Hi Heidi,
>>
>> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
>> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>>
>> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>>
>> Regards, Hans
>> -----
>> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>>
>> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>>
>>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Heidi
>>>
>>
>
Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Info Olagos <in...@gmail.com>.
ok thank you.
So not version 10.4 nor 11.4 but the trunk?
Regards,
Heidi
2012/1/27, Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>:
> Hi Heidi,
>
> I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
> versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
>
> we use trunk for almost all customers.....
>
> Regards, Hans
> -----
> OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
>
> On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>>
>> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Heidi
>>
>
>
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Re: version 11.4 or 10.4 most stable?
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
Hi Heidi,
I think in the OFBiz case, 'trunk' is just as stable as the other
versions....and with a lot of extra functionality....
we use trunk for almost all customers.....
Regards, Hans
-----
OFBiz software as a service? try the demo version: http://ofbizsaas.com
On 01/27/2012 05:48 PM, Info Olagos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can anyone inform me about the latest versions of Ofbiz.
>
> Is version 11.4 or rather 10.4 the most stable ?
>
> Regards,
> Heidi
>