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Posted to dev@jmeter.apache.org by Philippe Mouawad <p....@ubik-ingenierie.com> on 2016/10/08 08:55:37 UTC
Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Hello,
What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
- Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
- Drop in the following ?
Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by JSR223 ?
AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here. Last
site update of BSF is October 2011
Am I missing something ?
Thanks
Regards
Philippe
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Andrey Pokhilko <ap...@ya.ru>.
+1 to drop it
Andrey Pokhilko
On 10/08/2016 11:55 AM, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
> Hello,
> What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
> - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> - Drop in the following ?
>
>
> Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by JSR223 ?
> AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
> minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here. Last
> site update of BSF is October 2011
>
> Am I missing something ?
> Thanks
> Regards
> Philippe
>
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra...@gmail.com>.
+1 to drop it
2016-10-08 10:55 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <p....@ubik-ingenierie.com>:
> Hello,
> What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
> - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> - Drop in the following ?
>
>
> Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by JSR223 ?
> AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
> minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here. Last
> site update of BSF is October 2011
>
> Am I missing something ?
> Thanks
> Regards
> Philippe
>
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
On Sunday, October 16, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 October 2016 at 09:30, Philippe Mouawad
> <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > le Hello,
> > Regarding users:
> > - no feedback on user mailing list
> > - on twitter, a poll tweet was printed 3854 times, opened 221 times, 149
> > votes:
> > Question that was avilable for 7 days:
> > Hello users, we plan to deprecate BSF elements (replaced by JSR223) in
> next
> > version and drop them in the following one
> >
> > * Ok for me: 42%
> > * No I use it : 3%
> > * What is BSF ? :) : 44%
> > * What is JSR223 ? :) : 11%
> >
> > So I tend to thinl we can deprecate them at least.
> > Thoughts ?
>
> What's the hurry?
> A week is not really long enough for people to respond.
on twitter the poll cannot last more than 1 week, it.'si automatically
closed.
How much time do you want to wait on user ml ?
I personally think we won't get any further answer.
>
> > Regards
> >
> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com <javascript:;>');>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9 October 2016 at 13:41, Philippe Mouawad <
> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi ,
> >> > I compared rapidly the languages, I see JSR223 engines for those may
> not
> >> be
> >> > easy to find :
> >> >
> >> > - beanbasic
> >> > - bml
> >> > - jacl
> >> > - judoscript (no more domain)
> >> > - lotusscript
> >> > - http://www.netrexx.org/
> >> > - pnuts (http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/scripting-for-pnuts/
> 184403965
> >> )
> >> > - rexx
> >> >
> >> > But are the above languages very used ?
> >>
> >> No idea, which is why the users need to be asked.
> >>
> >> > JSR223 has other languages:
> >> >
> >> > -
> >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11838369/where-can-i-
> >> find-a-list-of-available-jsr-223-scripting-languages
> >> > - +scala and kotlin
> >>
> >> Of course it has additional languages, but that's not really relevant
> >> to this issue.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Philippe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <
> >> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
> >> >> >> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future
> >> >> version ?
> >> >> >> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> >> >> >> > - Drop in the following ?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced
> by
> >> >> >> JSR223 ?
> >> >> >> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now
> that
> >> our
> >> >> >> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it
> >> here.
> >> >> >> Last
> >> >> >> > site update of BSF is October 2011
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Am I missing something ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This needs to be asked on the user list.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'll start that and also on twitter.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> > Regards
> >> >> >> > Philippe
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Cordialement.
> >> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cordialement.
> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 16 October 2016 at 09:30, Philippe Mouawad
<ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> le Hello,
> Regarding users:
> - no feedback on user mailing list
> - on twitter, a poll tweet was printed 3854 times, opened 221 times, 149
> votes:
> Question that was avilable for 7 days:
> Hello users, we plan to deprecate BSF elements (replaced by JSR223) in next
> version and drop them in the following one
>
> * Ok for me: 42%
> * No I use it : 3%
> * What is BSF ? :) : 44%
> * What is JSR223 ? :) : 11%
>
> So I tend to thinl we can deprecate them at least.
> Thoughts ?
What's the hurry?
A week is not really long enough for people to respond.
> Regards
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> On 9 October 2016 at 13:41, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi ,
>> > I compared rapidly the languages, I see JSR223 engines for those may not
>> be
>> > easy to find :
>> >
>> > - beanbasic
>> > - bml
>> > - jacl
>> > - judoscript (no more domain)
>> > - lotusscript
>> > - http://www.netrexx.org/
>> > - pnuts (http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/scripting-for-pnuts/184403965
>> )
>> > - rexx
>> >
>> > But are the above languages very used ?
>>
>> No idea, which is why the users need to be asked.
>>
>> > JSR223 has other languages:
>> >
>> > -
>> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11838369/where-can-i-
>> find-a-list-of-available-jsr-223-scripting-languages
>> > - +scala and kotlin
>>
>> Of course it has additional languages, but that's not really relevant
>> to this issue.
>>
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Philippe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <
>> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
>> >> >> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hello,
>> >> >> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future
>> >> version ?
>> >> >> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
>> >> >> > - Drop in the following ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
>> >> >> JSR223 ?
>> >> >> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that
>> our
>> >> >> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it
>> here.
>> >> >> Last
>> >> >> > site update of BSF is October 2011
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am I missing something ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
>> >> >
>> >> > Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
>> >>
>> >> Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This needs to be asked on the user list.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll start that and also on twitter.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > Regards
>> >> >> > Philippe
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Cordialement.
>> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cordialement.
>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
le Hello,
Regarding users:
- no feedback on user mailing list
- on twitter, a poll tweet was printed 3854 times, opened 221 times, 149
votes:
Question that was avilable for 7 days:
Hello users, we plan to deprecate BSF elements (replaced by JSR223) in next
version and drop them in the following one
* Ok for me: 42%
* No I use it : 3%
* What is BSF ? :) : 44%
* What is JSR223 ? :) : 11%
So I tend to thinl we can deprecate them at least.
Thoughts ?
Regards
On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> On 9 October 2016 at 13:41, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi ,
> > I compared rapidly the languages, I see JSR223 engines for those may not
> be
> > easy to find :
> >
> > - beanbasic
> > - bml
> > - jacl
> > - judoscript (no more domain)
> > - lotusscript
> > - http://www.netrexx.org/
> > - pnuts (http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/scripting-for-pnuts/184403965
> )
> > - rexx
> >
> > But are the above languages very used ?
>
> No idea, which is why the users need to be asked.
>
> > JSR223 has other languages:
> >
> > -
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11838369/where-can-i-
> find-a-list-of-available-jsr-223-scripting-languages
> > - +scala and kotlin
>
> Of course it has additional languages, but that's not really relevant
> to this issue.
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Philippe
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <
> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
> >> >> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future
> >> version ?
> >> >> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> >> >> > - Drop in the following ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
> >> >> JSR223 ?
> >> >> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that
> our
> >> >> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it
> here.
> >> >> Last
> >> >> > site update of BSF is October 2011
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am I missing something ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
> >> >
> >> > Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
> >>
> >> Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
> >> >>
> >> >> This needs to be asked on the user list.
> >> >
> >> > I'll start that and also on twitter.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> > Regards
> >> >> > Philippe
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cordialement.
> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 9 October 2016 at 13:41, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi ,
> I compared rapidly the languages, I see JSR223 engines for those may not be
> easy to find :
>
> - beanbasic
> - bml
> - jacl
> - judoscript (no more domain)
> - lotusscript
> - http://www.netrexx.org/
> - pnuts (http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/scripting-for-pnuts/184403965)
> - rexx
>
> But are the above languages very used ?
No idea, which is why the users need to be asked.
> JSR223 has other languages:
>
> -
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11838369/where-can-i-find-a-list-of-available-jsr-223-scripting-languages
> - +scala and kotlin
Of course it has additional languages, but that's not really relevant
to this issue.
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
>> >> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future
>> version ?
>> >> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
>> >> > - Drop in the following ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
>> >> JSR223 ?
>> >> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
>> >> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here.
>> >> Last
>> >> > site update of BSF is October 2011
>> >> >
>> >> > Am I missing something ?
>> >>
>> >> Yes.
>> >>
>> >> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
>> >
>> > Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
>>
>> Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
>>
>> >>
>> >> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
>> >>
>> >> This needs to be asked on the user list.
>> >
>> > I'll start that and also on twitter.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Regards
>> >> > Philippe
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cordialement.
>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi ,
I compared rapidly the languages, I see JSR223 engines for those may not be
easy to find :
- beanbasic
- bml
- jacl
- judoscript (no more domain)
- lotusscript
- http://www.netrexx.org/
- pnuts (http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/scripting-for-pnuts/184403965)
- rexx
But are the above languages very used ?
JSR223 has other languages:
-
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11838369/where-can-i-find-a-list-of-available-jsr-223-scripting-languages
- +scala and kotlin
Regards
Philippe
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
> >> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future
> version ?
> >> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> >> > - Drop in the following ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
> >> JSR223 ?
> >> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
> >> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here.
> >> Last
> >> > site update of BSF is October 2011
> >> >
> >> > Am I missing something ?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
> >
> > Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
>
> Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
>
> >>
> >> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
> >>
> >> This needs to be asked on the user list.
> >
> > I'll start that and also on twitter.
> >
> >>
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Regards
> >> > Philippe
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 9 October 2016 at 08:52, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
>> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
>> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
>> > - Drop in the following ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
>> JSR223 ?
>> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
>> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here.
>> Last
>> > site update of BSF is October 2011
>> >
>> > Am I missing something ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
>
> Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
Compare the languages list for the two samplers.
>>
>> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
>>
>> This needs to be asked on the user list.
>
> I'll start that and also on twitter.
>
>>
>> > Thanks
>> > Regards
>> > Philippe
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
On Sunday, October 9, 2016, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
> > - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> > - Drop in the following ?
> >
> >
> > Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by
> JSR223 ?
> > AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
> > minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here.
> Last
> > site update of BSF is October 2011
> >
> > Am I missing something ?
>
> Yes.
>
> Not all languages have JSR223 support.
Which ones for example do have a bsf support and no jsr223 one ?
>
> However, whether these are still used is another matter.
>
> This needs to be asked on the user list.
I'll start that and also on twitter.
>
> > Thanks
> > Regards
> > Philippe
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Drop BSF Support in JMeter in future
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 8 October 2016 at 09:55, Philippe Mouawad
<p....@ubik-ingenierie.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> What do you think of dropping BSF Support in JMeter in a future version ?
> - Deprecate in 3.1 or 3.2
> - Drop in the following ?
>
>
> Is there still any reason for using BSF which AFAIU is replaced by JSR223 ?
> AFAIU, it was useful when we were supporting JAVA 5. But now that our
> minimum version is Java 7, I don't see any reason for keeping it here. Last
> site update of BSF is October 2011
>
> Am I missing something ?
Yes.
Not all languages have JSR223 support.
However, whether these are still used is another matter.
This needs to be asked on the user list.
> Thanks
> Regards
> Philippe