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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> on 2013/02/05 16:28:05 UTC

[PR] Getting people excited about Flex

I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option for their own needs.

Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology you used to create a mobile app…

What do you think?

Harbs

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>.
here's a nice one that just got posted:

http://away3d.com/index.php/comments/away_foundation_roadmap_releases

Away 3D name checks Apache Flex as the technology they're going to use for
Away3D Builder.

On 5 February 2013 16:28, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality working
> applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option for
> their own needs.
>
> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of
> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS
> apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile
> apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology
> you used to create a mobile app…
>
> What do you think?
>
> Harbs




-- 
regards,
Roland

-- 
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Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA

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Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
ESRI has some slick (well to the GIS crowd anyway) samples for their flex API:

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/flex-api/samples/

RE: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> It also might be a good idea to find a way to showcase apps that are on all (desktop/web/mobile) platforms with same(ish) codebase to showcase the code once/run anywhere theme. 
> Maybe some sort a filter in top so you could sort/organize the apps quickly by type.

1) There is an area on the spoon.as site to showcase apps and 2) this content is terrific to put on the Apache Flex website, too. What we lack is someone providing their apps compiled to runtime or compiled in 4.9 for another target & allowing key parts of the source to be shown publicly along with a written description of what the app does. If you have screen shots, a written description of what the app does, and some example code you are willing to let others see, please provide it. I believe the project would use your app.

3) Third, we have also been requesting that someone write code examples to help improve the documentation of the new features in 4.9, and the new components that have been written that go beyond the Adobe Flex SDKs. If you have code examples that you'd like to contribute to the documentation, we would love to use your work. This type of training documentation would really help newbies become interested in using the language.

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Scott Rowe <sc...@mac.com>.
It also might be a good idea to find a way to showcase apps that are on all (desktop/web/mobile) platforms with same(ish) codebase to showcase the code once/run anywhere theme. 

Maybe some sort a filter in top so you could sort/organize the apps quickly by type.

On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
> 
> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
> 
> Marcus Fritze
> 
> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option for their own needs.
>> 
>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology you used to create a mobile app…
>> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> Harbs
> 

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Alex Harui wrote:

> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be nice to have in a showcase.

Thanks.

> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.

Yeah. App startup time is always a struggle. With PrintUI the biggest wait is very often waiting for fonts to load. Depending on the template that can add up to a couple of MB of data or more…

There's a few optimizations I still plan on doing there, and if we had a sizable persistent cache, that would help tons at least on subsequent app loads…

Harbs

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Erick Ghaumez <er...@rxlabz.com>.
Last year i've worked for M6, a french TV channel, we made a full Flex website ( Flex 4.6 ) :

http://www.m6replay.fr

It's a good example of "graphic" application : clean UI, lot of transitions, Facebook Open Graph integration, premium video features…
You can access to most of the features without any login, except perhaps for some of the videos if you are not in France.


Le 5 févr. 2013 à 19:57, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> a écrit :

> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.  
> 
> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
> 
> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be nice to have in a showcase.
> 
> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> 
> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly, but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any advantages of Flex.
> 
> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured programming?
> 
> Alex Harui
> Apache Flex Team
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>> 
>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>> 
>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just post them
>> here as a starting point for the list.
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our website...
>>> 
>>> -Nick
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
>>>> 
>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
>>>> 
>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>> 
>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>> of
>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harbs
>>>> 
>>>> 
> 


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
Thanks, i'll look into it.

Been playing around with it myself and its a bit more basic than i 
remember... i would hope that there's enough quality stuff out there 
that mine isn't needed.

On 05/02/2013 19:16, Roland Zwaga wrote:
> That app sounds interesting, but when I visit that URL the app stays stuck
> on the loading screen, it says 'initialising', but after several minutes
> still nothing has happened.
> Using Chrome 26 Canary with FP 11.6 on windows 8 pro.
>
> On 5 February 2013 20:08, Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com> wrote:
>
>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its deemed
>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark so i can easily update it to 4.9
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>
>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>
>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
>>>
>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be
>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>
>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would
>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over
>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try
>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>
>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so
>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly,
>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that
>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>
>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are
>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is
>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured
>>> programming?
>>>
>>> Alex Harui
>>> Apache Flex Team
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>
>>>
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>
>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
>>>> post them
>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
>>>>> website...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with
>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>


-- 
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>.
That app sounds interesting, but when I visit that URL the app stays stuck
on the loading screen, it says 'initialising', but after several minutes
still nothing has happened.
Using Chrome 26 Canary with FP 11.6 on windows 8 pro.

On 5 February 2013 20:08, Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com> wrote:

> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its deemed
> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark so i can easily update it to 4.9
>
>
>
> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>
>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
>>
>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be
>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>
>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would
>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over
>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try
>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>
>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so
>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly,
>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that
>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
>> advantages of Flex.
>>
>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are
>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is
>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured
>> programming?
>>
>> Alex Harui
>> Apache Flex Team
>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>
>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>>>
>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
>>> post them
>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
>>>> website...
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with
>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>
>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>> application).
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>>>>
>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>


-- 
regards,
Roland

-- 
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Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA

+32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com | http://www.stackandheap.com

http://zwaga.blogspot.com
http://www.springactionscript.org
http://www.as3commons.org

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
What s needed is something like the GXT explorer

http://www.sencha.com/examples/




2013/2/5 Mark Fuqua <ma...@availdata.com>

> That snapfish app is pretty cool and very responsive.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:08 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>
> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
>
> http://bit.ly/VReNum
>
> Om
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga
> <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:
>
> > ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
> >
> > On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> > > >
> > > > But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
> > > > actually work :)
> > > >
> > > > On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not
> > > >> involved
> > > with
> > > >> this app anymore.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> > roland@stackandheap.com
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> > > >>> application loaded:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly
> > > >>> customer
> > > >>> service:
> > > >>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > > >>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > > >>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time Saturday - Sunday:
> > > >>> 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > > >>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > > >>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013 total memory:
> > > >>> 50823168 is debugger: false
> > > >>> language: en
> > > >>> local file read disable: false
> > > >>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > > >>> os: Windows 8
> > > >>> player type: PlugIn
> > > >>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> screen dpi: 72
> > > >>> screen res x: 1920
> > > >>> screen res y: 1080
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > > >>> Message:Startup Aborted
> > > >>> eventType: operationError
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > > >>> opClassName:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartAp
> > plicati
> > > >> onCmdlet
> > > >>> activityStack:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmd
> > let,com
> > > >>
> > >
> > .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartAppli
> > cationC
> > > >> mdlet
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> result: undefined
> > > >>> error: Security error accessing url
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> sourceClass:
> > > >> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30939
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Recent Info Events
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > > >>> type: INFO
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30937
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > > >>> Message:trackPageName called
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > > >>> oldPageName:
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30775
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > > >>> type: INFO
> > > >>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > > >>> type: INFO
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > > >>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > > >>> Cmdlet:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWait
> > Indicat
> > > >> orCmdlet
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> sourceClass:
> > > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > > >>> type: INFO
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > > >>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > > >>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > > >>> Cmdlet:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWait
> > Indicat
> > > >> orCmdlet
> > > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > > >>> sourceClass:
> > > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > > >>> type: INFO
> > > >>> appRunTime: 30772
> > > >>> ====================================
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past -
> > > >>>> does not require login to launch.  You could work off of your
> > > >>>> pictures from
> > > your
> > > >>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed
> > > >>>> (facebook,
> > > >> etc.)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d866
> > 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b
> > 0
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Om
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > > >> nicholas@spoon.as
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've
> > > >>>>> been
> > > >> doing
> > > >>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex
> > > >>>>> 4.8.0
> > apps
> > > >> I
> > > >>>>> published...   :
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.android
> > > App
> > > >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt
> > > >>>>> =8
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -Nick
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > > >>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used
> > > >>>>>> if
> > its
> > > >>>>> deemed
> > > >>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > > >>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >> spark
> > > >>>> so
> > > >>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
> > > >>>>>>> fact
> > > >>> that
> > > >>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> > > >> screenshots.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like
> > > >>>>>>> that
> > > >>> would
> > > >>>> be
> > > >>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer
> > > >>>>>>> showcase
> > app
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at
> > > >>>>>>> least at
> > > >>> home
> > > >>>>> over
> > > >>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks
> > > >>>>>>> won't
> > > >>>> really
> > > >>>>> try
> > > >>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> > working
> > > >>> on
> > > >>>> so
> > > >>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> > reasonably
> > > >>>>> quickly,
> > > >>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > > >>> accomplish
> > > >>>>> that
> > > >>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but
> > > >>>>>>> showcases
> > > >> any
> > > >>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these
> > > >>>>>>> dynamic
> > > >>> apps
> > > >>>>> are
> > > >>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > > >>>> productivity
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to
> > > >>>>>>> use
> > > >>>>> structured
> > > >>>>>>> programming?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Alex Harui
> > > >>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> > > >>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > > >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
> capacities...
> > > >>> ;-)
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps,
> > > >>>>>>>> can
> > > >>> just
> > > >>>>>>>> post them
> > > >>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The
> > > >>>>>>>> only
> > > >>>> problem
> > > >>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6
> > > >>>>>>>>> companies to
> > > >>>> allow
> > > >>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to
> > > >>>>>>>>> put
> > on
> > > >>> our
> > > >>>>>>>>> website...
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > > >>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> > there
> > > >>> was
> > > >>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> > > >> possible
> > > >>>>> with
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> And
> > > >> maybe
> > > >>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the application).
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
> >:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing
> > > >>>>>>>>>> people
> > > >>> quality
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology
> > > >>>>>>>>>> is a
> > > >>> viable
> > > >>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> has a
> > > >>> list
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories
> > > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > web
> > > >>>> apps,
> > > >>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could
> > > >>>>>>>>>> join
> > that
> > > >>>> list.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no
> > > >>>>>>>>>> one
> > > >> knows
> > > >>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> regards,
> > > >>> Roland
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Roland Zwaga
> > > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org http://www.as3commons.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > regards,
> > > > Roland
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Roland Zwaga
> > > > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > > >
> > > > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > > http://www.stackandheap.com
> > > >
> > > > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > > > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > > > http://www.as3commons.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alex Harui
> > > Flex SDK Team
> > > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Roland
> >
> > --
> > Roland Zwaga
> > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >
> > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > http://www.stackandheap.com
> >
> > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > http://www.as3commons.org
> >
>
>
>

RE: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Mark Fuqua <ma...@availdata.com>.
That snapfish app is pretty cool and very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:08 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:

http://bit.ly/VReNum

Om

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga
<ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:

> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>
> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> > >
> > > But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing 
> > > actually work :)
> > >
> > > On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not 
> > >> involved
> > with
> > >> this app anymore.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the 
> > >>> application loaded:
> > >>>
> > >>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly 
> > >>> customer
> > >>> service:
> > >>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > >>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > >>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time Saturday - Sunday: 
> > >>> 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>
> > >>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > >>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > >>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013 total memory: 
> > >>> 50823168 is debugger: false
> > >>> language: en
> > >>> local file read disable: false
> > >>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > >>> os: Windows 8
> > >>> player type: PlugIn
> > >>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> screen dpi: 72
> > >>> screen res x: 1920
> > >>> screen res y: 1080
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > >>> Message:Startup Aborted
> > >>> eventType: operationError
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > >>> opClassName:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartAp
> plicati
> > >> onCmdlet
> > >>> activityStack:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmd
> let,com
> > >>
> >
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartAppli
> cationC
> > >> mdlet
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> result: undefined
> > >>> error: Security error accessing url
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > >>> appRunTime: 30939
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Recent Info Events
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30937
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:trackPageName called
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > >>> oldPageName:
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> appRunTime: 30775
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog 
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWait
> Indicat
> > >> orCmdlet
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > >>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWait
> Indicat
> > >> orCmdlet
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30772
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - 
> > >>>> does not require login to launch.  You could work off of your 
> > >>>> pictures from
> > your
> > >>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed 
> > >>>> (facebook,
> > >> etc.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d866
> 1
> > >>>>
> > >>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b
> 0
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Om
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > >> nicholas@spoon.as
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've 
> > >>>>> been
> > >> doing
> > >>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 
> > >>>>> 4.8.0
> apps
> > >> I
> > >>>>> published...   :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.android
> > App
> > >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt
> > >>>>> =8
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > >>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used 
> > >>>>>> if
> its
> > >>>>> deemed
> > >>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > >>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but 
> > >>>>> is
> > >> spark
> > >>>> so
> > >>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the 
> > >>>>>>> fact
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> > >> screenshots.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like 
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>> would
> > >>>> be
> > >>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer 
> > >>>>>>> showcase
> app
> > >>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at 
> > >>>>>>> least at
> > >>> home
> > >>>>> over
> > >>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks 
> > >>>>>>> won't
> > >>>> really
> > >>>>> try
> > >>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> working
> > >>> on
> > >>>> so
> > >>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> reasonably
> > >>>>> quickly,
> > >>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > >>> accomplish
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but 
> > >>>>>>> showcases
> > >> any
> > >>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these 
> > >>>>>>> dynamic
> > >>> apps
> > >>>>> are
> > >>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > >>>> productivity
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to 
> > >>>>>>> use
> > >>>>> structured
> > >>>>>>> programming?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> > >>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
capacities...
> > >>> ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, 
> > >>>>>>>> can
> > >>> just
> > >>>>>>>> post them
> > >>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The 
> > >>>>>>>> only
> > >>>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 
> > >>>>>>>>> companies to
> > >>>> allow
> > >>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to 
> > >>>>>>>>> put
> on
> > >>> our
> > >>>>>>>>> website...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze 
> > >>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> there
> > >>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> > >> possible
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. 
> > >>>>>>>>>> And
> > >> maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does 
> > >>>>>>>>>> the application).
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing 
> > >>>>>>>>>> people
> > >>> quality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology 
> > >>>>>>>>>> is a
> > >>> viable
> > >>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> has a
> > >>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories 
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> web
> > >>>> apps,
> > >>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could 
> > >>>>>>>>>> join
> that
> > >>>> list.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no 
> > >>>>>>>>>> one
> > >> knows
> > >>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> regards,
> > >>> Roland
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>
> > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>
> > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > regards,
> > > Roland
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roland Zwaga
> > > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >
> > > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >
> > > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > > http://www.as3commons.org
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Roland
>
> --
> Roland Zwaga
> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>
> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> http://www.stackandheap.com
>
> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> http://www.springactionscript.org
> http://www.as3commons.org
>



Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Johan Kustermans <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I have been following the mailing list from the start and I am still on the
fence between choosing Flex, going the javascript way,
sticking to the Java way of doing things (jsf with a framework like
Primefaces can serve a lot of purposes) or look for another option.

JavaFX shows promise from a technical point of view (databinding is way too
cumbersome though) but will it ever catch on?

Dart as a language and development ecosystem is evolving quite nicely but
is lacking a powerful set of out of the box GUI components. Their web
component library is also actively being developed but again, this will
take another year or two to evolve to a state comparable to that of Flex
imo.

Typescript or javascript Harmony could be promising in combination with Web
Components but still a lot of work has to be done.

>From my point of view (building enterprise applications with a Java back
end) the following combination of properties  are important to Flex
1. Like Om: Access to a real object oriented language. Makes code
maintenance a
lot easier. And it is build into the language, no need to choose a
framework to tho this. This is a major one.

2. A nice component based model with easy databinding using MXML.  The fact
that you can define a component in MXML and have it immediately integrated
in your development ecosystem is a major bonus. How long will it take for
web components to reach that level?

3. Fluent connection to a server backend thanks to Granite Data Services
(we use Spring) and the AMF protocol.

4. Web based

5. From time to time the ease of plugging in certain interactivity is
second to none with Flex. We needed a charting component that shows several
data lines (not to big a deal with recent js frameworks) but in orde to
increase productivity the users desperately wanted to drag and drop
datapoints in these charts to adjust their forecasts. This was pretty easy
to achieve with Flex.

6. It builds around a standard.

7. The fact that item renderers / item editors are built into the
framework. From time to time you see a plea to add virtual components to
the web components specification ...

I expect that next versions of javascript in combination with HTML 5 and
Web components will achieve the same level of development and
maintenance experience (or better, mutation observers spring to mind).  But
it will take a lot of time to get there. The same applies to Dart if it
ever succeeds,which I hope it does.


regards
Johan




On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to
> see
> > these end products.
> >
> > So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> > video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question
> is:
> > why?
>
>
> These the kind of of apps that are consumer focused and hence publicly
> reachable.  I wish we could show the numerous enterprise apps Flex
> developers have built over the years.
>
>
>
> > Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
> > the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you
> had
> > to start today.
>
>
>
> Here are the reasons for chosing Flex over HTML/JS in my point of view.
>
> 1.  Works same across all browsers and major operating systems.  Reduces
> development and QA efforts.
> 2.  Access to a real object oriented language.  Makes code maintenance a
> lot easier.
> 3.  Multiple concurrent file uploads.
> 4.  True vector graphics and bitmap processing.
> 5.  Access to local file system
> 6.  Access to a real profiler
> 7.  Integration with Maven
> 8.  Integration with an established unit testing framework (FlexUnit)
> 9.  Runtime performance (from my personal experience) is better
> 10.  Access to TLF which is supported by Indesign as well (print fidelity
> is very important for web to print solutions)
> 11.  Test automation (there are pain points, but works well for most cases)
> 12.  Flex is not just a collection of great components/effects/styles, it
> is a fully extensible framework and an SDK.  Cant beat that.
> 13.  Can deploy as a desktop or mobile app with negligible extra work.  (If
> the app is architected with this in mind)
> 14.  Access to microphone and camera
> 15.  Local storage support that is expandable if user agrees.
>
> I can go on, but I will stop here.  Most apps I build need almost all of
> the above mentioned features.  I am sure that you can come up with a
> sorta-can-do for each item above in any given JS framework or a latest
> version of chrome or a nightly build of firefox.  But if you want all of
> the above and want to have them same across browsers and operating systems,
> Flex is the way to go.
>
>
>
> > When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> > visually on the same level as these sites.
> >
> >
> That is an apples to oranges comparison.  We are talking about using Flex
> to create web applications, not designing websites.  I wouldnt recommend
> using Flex for building websites.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>
> >
> > On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
> > >
> > > https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
> > > http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register
> to
> > > play)
> > > http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
> > > http://www.hbogo.com
> > > http://www.behr.com,
> > >
> >
> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
> > > 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
> > >
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
> > >>
> > >> http://bit.ly/VReNum
> > >>
> > >> Om
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <
> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
> > >>> actually
> > >>>>> work :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not
> > involved
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>> this app anymore.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> > >>> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> > >>>>>>> application loaded:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly
> > customer
> > >>>>>>> service:
> > >>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > >>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > >>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > >>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > >>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> > >>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
> > >>>>>>> is debugger: false
> > >>>>>>> language: en
> > >>>>>>> local file read disable: false
> > >>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > >>>>>>> os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
> > >>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
> > >>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
> > >>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > >>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
> > >>>>>>> eventType: operationError
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > >>>>>>> opClassName:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> > i
> > >>>>>> onCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> activityStack:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> > m
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> > C
> > >>>>>> mdlet
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> result: undefined
> > >>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Recent Info Events
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > >>>>>>> oldPageName:
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> > t
> > >>>>>> orCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> > t
> > >>>>>> orCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
> > >>> not
> > >>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures
> from
> > >>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed
> > (facebook,
> > >>>>>> etc.)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> Om
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > >>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've
> been
> > >>>>>> doing
> > >>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
> > >>> apps
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>> published...   :
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > >>>>>>>>>
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > >>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used
> if
> > >>> its
> > >>>>>>>>> deemed
> > >>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > >>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but
> is
> > >>>>>> spark
> > >>>>>>>> so
> > >>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the
> showcase.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
> > >>> fact
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> > >>>>>> screenshots.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like
> that
> > >>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer
> showcase
> > >>> app
> > >>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at
> least
> > >>> at
> > >>>>>>> home
> > >>>>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks
> > won't
> > >>>>>>>> really
> > >>>>>>>>> try
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> > >>> working
> > >>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>> so
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> > >>> reasonably
> > >>>>>>>>> quickly,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > >>>>>>> accomplish
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but
> > showcases
> > >>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these
> > dynamic
> > >>>>>>> apps
> > >>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > >>>>>>>> productivity
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to
> use
> > >>>>>>>>> structured
> > >>>>>>>>>>> programming?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
> > >>> capacities...
> > >>>>>>> ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps,
> > can
> > >>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> post them
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The
> only
> > >>>>>>>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>>>> allow
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to
> put
> > >>> on
> > >>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> website...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> > >>> there
> > >>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> > >>>>>> possible
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> > >>>>>> maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> application).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
> > >>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> > >>>>>>> quality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> > >>>>>>> viable
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
> > >>> web
> > >>>>>>>> apps,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>>> list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> > >>>>>> knows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> regards,
> > >>>>>>> Roland
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> regards,
> > >>>>> Roland
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>> Flex SDK Team
> > >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> regards,
> > >>> Roland
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>
> > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>
> > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
> >
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to see
> these end products.
>
> So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question is:
> why?


These the kind of of apps that are consumer focused and hence publicly
reachable.  I wish we could show the numerous enterprise apps Flex
developers have built over the years.



> Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
> the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you had
> to start today.



Here are the reasons for chosing Flex over HTML/JS in my point of view.

1.  Works same across all browsers and major operating systems.  Reduces
development and QA efforts.
2.  Access to a real object oriented language.  Makes code maintenance a
lot easier.
3.  Multiple concurrent file uploads.
4.  True vector graphics and bitmap processing.
5.  Access to local file system
6.  Access to a real profiler
7.  Integration with Maven
8.  Integration with an established unit testing framework (FlexUnit)
9.  Runtime performance (from my personal experience) is better
10.  Access to TLF which is supported by Indesign as well (print fidelity
is very important for web to print solutions)
11.  Test automation (there are pain points, but works well for most cases)
12.  Flex is not just a collection of great components/effects/styles, it
is a fully extensible framework and an SDK.  Cant beat that.
13.  Can deploy as a desktop or mobile app with negligible extra work.  (If
the app is architected with this in mind)
14.  Access to microphone and camera
15.  Local storage support that is expandable if user agrees.

I can go on, but I will stop here.  Most apps I build need almost all of
the above mentioned features.  I am sure that you can come up with a
sorta-can-do for each item above in any given JS framework or a latest
version of chrome or a nightly build of firefox.  But if you want all of
the above and want to have them same across browsers and operating systems,
Flex is the way to go.



> When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> visually on the same level as these sites.
>
>
That is an apples to oranges comparison.  We are talking about using Flex
to create web applications, not designing websites.  I wouldnt recommend
using Flex for building websites.

Thanks,
Om



>
> On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
> >
> > https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
> > http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
> > play)
> > http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
> > http://www.hbogo.com
> > http://www.behr.com,
> >
> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
> > 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
> >
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
> >>
> >> http://bit.ly/VReNum
> >>
> >> Om
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <roland@stackandheap.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
> >>>
> >>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
> >>> actually
> >>>>> work :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not
> involved
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> this app anymore.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> >>> roland@stackandheap.com
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> >>>>>>> application loaded:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly
> customer
> >>>>>>> service:
> >>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> >>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> >>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> >>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> >>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> >>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
> >>>>>>> is debugger: false
> >>>>>>> language: en
> >>>>>>> local file read disable: false
> >>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> >>>>>>> os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
> >>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
> >>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
> >>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> >>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
> >>>>>>> eventType: operationError
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> >>>>>>> opClassName:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> i
> >>>>>> onCmdlet
> >>>>>>> activityStack:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> m
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> C
> >>>>>> mdlet
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> result: undefined
> >>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Recent Info Events
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> >>>>>>> oldPageName:
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
> >>>>>> orCmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
> >>>>>> orCmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
> >>> not
> >>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
> >>>> your
> >>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed
> (facebook,
> >>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
> >>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
> >>> apps
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> published...   :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> >>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> >>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
> >>> its
> >>>>>>>>> deemed
> >>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> >>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
> >>>>>> spark
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
> >>> fact
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> >>>>>> screenshots.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
> >>> app
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
> >>> at
> >>>>>>> home
> >>>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks
> won't
> >>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>> try
> >>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> >>> working
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> >>> reasonably
> >>>>>>>>> quickly,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> >>>>>>> accomplish
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but
> showcases
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these
> dynamic
> >>>>>>> apps
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> >>>>>>>> productivity
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> >>>>>>>>> structured
> >>>>>>>>>>> programming?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
> >>> capacities...
> >>>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps,
> can
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> post them
> >>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> >>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>> allow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
> >>> on
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> website...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> >>> there
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> >>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> >>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> application).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
> >>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> >>>>>>> quality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> >>>>>>> viable
> >>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
> >>> a
> >>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
> >>> web
> >>>>>>>> apps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> >>>>>> knows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>> Roland
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
> >>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> Roland
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Roland Zwaga
> >>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Alex Harui
> >>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> regards,
> >>> Roland
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Roland Zwaga
> >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>
> >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>
> >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
On 5.2.2013. 23:10, Jim Robson wrote:
> But in general, to address your point, Flex isn't for websites. It's
> primary purpose is enterprise applications - though now it's good for
> mobile, too.
Our experience is that Flex (on Flash) can still find it's place on 
public websites in various apps for generating/editing visual or sound 
content.
Ability to efficiently process binary data and vector graphics on the 
client side still puts it far ahead of solutions running on bianco 
browser engine.

Mobile can be tricky, but with proper code optimizations it's possible 
to create high quality mobile apps.
We just delivered an enterprise mobile app with complex UI (iPad, 
Android) for a client that will be used for managing board meetings by 
corporations and governments.
It was built on 4.6 but we will switch to 4.9 soon and provide a link 
for a showcase when they publish it.

Web apps are also a place where Flex can play it's game on a public web.
We use it in our startup project for web and tablet apps.
Our main gains were on development cost and performance.
A really popular JavaScript app of our competitor is miles away in 
performance.
We are launching soon and will be happy to share a link for showcase.

Cheers,

Tomislav

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Edouard <ed...@gmail.com>.
what about something like that ?
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/tourdeflex.html

it was a good sample of flex components, i used it a lot of time to do some
demonstration to our client


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jim Robson <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dunno, Alex. That Sherwin-Williams color visualizer is pretty slick.
>
> The Behr color picker *could* be reproduced in JS/CSS/HTML but it would not
> be easy.
>
> The Big Blue Button certainly seems like a nicer experience than
> GoToMeeting.
>
> But in general, to address your point, Flex isn't for websites. It's
> primary purpose is enterprise applications - though now it's good for
> mobile, too.
>
> Do we want corporations who will allow their logo to be placed on the Flex
> website with some kind of statement to the effect that they use Flex for
> their internal apps?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to
> see
> > these end products.
> >
> > So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> > video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question
> is:
> > why?   Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect
> of
> > the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you
> had
> > to start today.  When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> > visually on the same level as these sites.
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
> > >
> > > https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
> > > http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register
> to
> > > play)
> > > http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
> > > http://www.hbogo.com
> > > http://www.behr.com,
> > >
> >
> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
> > > 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
> > >
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
> > >>
> > >> http://bit.ly/VReNum
> > >>
> > >> Om
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <
> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
> > >>> actually
> > >>>>> work :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not
> > involved
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>> this app anymore.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> > >>> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> > >>>>>>> application loaded:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly
> > customer
> > >>>>>>> service:
> > >>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > >>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > >>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > >>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > >>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> > >>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
> > >>>>>>> is debugger: false
> > >>>>>>> language: en
> > >>>>>>> local file read disable: false
> > >>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > >>>>>>> os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
> > >>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
> > >>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
> > >>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > >>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
> > >>>>>>> eventType: operationError
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > >>>>>>> opClassName:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> > i
> > >>>>>> onCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> activityStack:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> > m
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> > C
> > >>>>>> mdlet
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> result: undefined
> > >>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Recent Info Events
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > >>>>>>> oldPageName:
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> > t
> > >>>>>> orCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> > t
> > >>>>>> orCmdlet
> > >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> > >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>>>>>> type: INFO
> > >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
> > >>>>>>> ====================================
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
> > >>> not
> > >>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures
> from
> > >>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed
> > (facebook,
> > >>>>>> etc.)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> Om
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > >>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've
> been
> > >>>>>> doing
> > >>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
> > >>> apps
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>> published...   :
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > >>>>>>>>>
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > >>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used
> if
> > >>> its
> > >>>>>>>>> deemed
> > >>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > >>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but
> is
> > >>>>>> spark
> > >>>>>>>> so
> > >>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the
> showcase.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
> > >>> fact
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> > >>>>>> screenshots.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like
> that
> > >>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer
> showcase
> > >>> app
> > >>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at
> least
> > >>> at
> > >>>>>>> home
> > >>>>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks
> > won't
> > >>>>>>>> really
> > >>>>>>>>> try
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> > >>> working
> > >>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>> so
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> > >>> reasonably
> > >>>>>>>>> quickly,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > >>>>>>> accomplish
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but
> > showcases
> > >>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these
> > dynamic
> > >>>>>>> apps
> > >>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > >>>>>>>> productivity
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to
> use
> > >>>>>>>>> structured
> > >>>>>>>>>>> programming?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
> > >>> capacities...
> > >>>>>>> ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps,
> > can
> > >>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> post them
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The
> only
> > >>>>>>>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>>>> allow
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to
> put
> > >>> on
> > >>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> website...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> > >>> there
> > >>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> > >>>>>> possible
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> > >>>>>> maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> application).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
> > >>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> > >>>>>>> quality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> > >>>>>>> viable
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
> > >>> web
> > >>>>>>>> apps,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>>> list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> > >>>>>> knows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> regards,
> > >>>>>>> Roland
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> regards,
> > >>>>> Roland
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>> Flex SDK Team
> > >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> regards,
> > >>> Roland
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>
> > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>
> > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
> >
>



-- 
Edouard Bataille
Epita MTI 2008
Consultant Expert Java Flex

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Jim Robson <da...@gmail.com>.
I dunno, Alex. That Sherwin-Williams color visualizer is pretty slick.

The Behr color picker *could* be reproduced in JS/CSS/HTML but it would not
be easy.

The Big Blue Button certainly seems like a nicer experience than
GoToMeeting.

But in general, to address your point, Flex isn't for websites. It's
primary purpose is enterprise applications - though now it's good for
mobile, too.

Do we want corporations who will allow their logo to be placed on the Flex
website with some kind of statement to the effect that they use Flex for
their internal apps?



On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to see
> these end products.
>
> So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question is:
> why?   Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
> the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you had
> to start today.  When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> visually on the same level as these sites.
>
>
> On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
> >
> > https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
> > http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
> > play)
> > http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
> > http://www.hbogo.com
> > http://www.behr.com,
> >
> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
> > 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
> >
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
> >>
> >> http://bit.ly/VReNum
> >>
> >> Om
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <roland@stackandheap.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
> >>>
> >>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
> >>> actually
> >>>>> work :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not
> involved
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> this app anymore.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> >>> roland@stackandheap.com
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> >>>>>>> application loaded:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly
> customer
> >>>>>>> service:
> >>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> >>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> >>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> >>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> >>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> >>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
> >>>>>>> is debugger: false
> >>>>>>> language: en
> >>>>>>> local file read disable: false
> >>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> >>>>>>> os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
> >>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
> >>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
> >>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> >>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
> >>>>>>> eventType: operationError
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> >>>>>>> opClassName:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> i
> >>>>>> onCmdlet
> >>>>>>> activityStack:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> m
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> C
> >>>>>> mdlet
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> result: undefined
> >>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Recent Info Events
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> >>>>>>> oldPageName:
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> >>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
> >>>>>> orCmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> >>>>>>> Cmdlet:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
> >>>>>> orCmdlet
> >>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>>>>>> sourceClass:
> >>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>>>>>> type: INFO
> >>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
> >>>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
> >>> not
> >>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
> >>>> your
> >>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed
> (facebook,
> >>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
> >>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
> >>> apps
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> published...   :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> >>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> >>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
> >>> its
> >>>>>>>>> deemed
> >>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> >>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
> >>>>>> spark
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
> >>> fact
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> >>>>>> screenshots.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
> >>> app
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
> >>> at
> >>>>>>> home
> >>>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks
> won't
> >>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>> try
> >>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> >>> working
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> >>> reasonably
> >>>>>>>>> quickly,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> >>>>>>> accomplish
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but
> showcases
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these
> dynamic
> >>>>>>> apps
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> >>>>>>>> productivity
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> >>>>>>>>> structured
> >>>>>>>>>>> programming?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
> >>> capacities...
> >>>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps,
> can
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> post them
> >>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> >>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>> allow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
> >>> on
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> website...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> >>> there
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> >>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> >>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> application).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
> >>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> >>>>>>> quality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> >>>>>>> viable
> >>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
> >>> a
> >>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
> >>> web
> >>>>>>>> apps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> >>>>>> knows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>> Roland
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
> >>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> Roland
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Roland Zwaga
> >>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Alex Harui
> >>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> regards,
> >>> Roland
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Roland Zwaga
> >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>
> >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>
> >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
For PrintUI, Flex was really the only choice.

Why? TLF. Fidelity of text rendering and consistency with InDesign server was critical, and no other technology competes…

The app is pretty complex as well with probably over 100 classes. (Maybe more. I never counted…) Doing that in most HTML frameworks would be -- not fun. In terms of the complexity, the only other framework that would appeal to me is probably GWT.

Harbs

On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alex Harui wrote:

> Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to see
> these end products.
> 
> So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question is:
> why?   Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
> the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you had
> to start today.  When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> visually on the same level as these sites.
> 
> 
> On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
>> 
>> https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
>> http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
>> play)
>> http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
>> http://www.hbogo.com
>> http://www.behr.com,
>> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
>> 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
>> 
>> Om
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/VReNum
>>> 
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>>>> 
>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
>>>> actually
>>>>>> work :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this app anymore.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
>>>> roland@stackandheap.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
>>>>>>>> application loaded:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
>>>>>>>> service:
>>>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
>>>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
>>>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
>>>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
>>>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
>>>>>>>> is debugger: false
>>>>>>>> language: en
>>>>>>>> local file read disable: false
>>>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
>>>>>>>> os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
>>>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
>>>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
>>>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
>>>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
>>>>>>>> eventType: operationError
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
>>>>>>>> opClassName:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> i
>>>>>>> onCmdlet
>>>>>>>> activityStack:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> m
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> C
>>>>>>> mdlet
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> result: undefined
>>>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Recent Info Events
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
>>>>>>>> oldPageName:
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
>>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
>>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
>>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
>>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>>>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
>>>> apps
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> published...   :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>>>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>>>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>> deemed
>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>>>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
>>>>>>> spark
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
>>>> fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
>>>>>>> screenshots.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
>>>> app
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
>>>> at
>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
>>>> working
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
>>>> reasonably
>>>>>>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
>>>>>>>> accomplish
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>>>>>>>>> productivity
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>>>>>>>>>> structured
>>>>>>>>>>>> programming?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
>>>> capacities...
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> post them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
>>>> on
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
>>>> there
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
>>>>>>>> viable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
>>>> web
>>>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> regards,
>>>> Roland
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>> 
>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>> 
>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> 


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Oh yeah.

I do a lot of work around Creative Suite extensibility. Flex is a must there. (It's a special strain of Adobe Flex, but Flex nevertheless.) The productivity gains by being able to extend the creative apps with Flex is awesome. I have been able to churn out some pretty impressive panel extensions in a matter of hours…

Harbs

On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alex Harui wrote:

> Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to see
> these end products.
> 
> So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
> video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question is:
> why?   Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
> the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you had
> to start today.  When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
> visually on the same level as these sites.
> 
> 
> On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
>> 
>> https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
>> http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
>> play)
>> http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
>> http://www.hbogo.com
>> http://www.behr.com,
>> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
>> 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
>> 
>> Om
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/VReNum
>>> 
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>>>> 
>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
>>>> actually
>>>>>> work :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this app anymore.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
>>>> roland@stackandheap.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
>>>>>>>> application loaded:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
>>>>>>>> service:
>>>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
>>>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
>>>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
>>>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
>>>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
>>>>>>>> is debugger: false
>>>>>>>> language: en
>>>>>>>> local file read disable: false
>>>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
>>>>>>>> os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
>>>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
>>>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
>>>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
>>>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
>>>>>>>> eventType: operationError
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
>>>>>>>> opClassName:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
> i
>>>>>>> onCmdlet
>>>>>>>> activityStack:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
> m
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
> C
>>>>>>> mdlet
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> result: undefined
>>>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Recent Info Events
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
>>>>>>>> oldPageName:
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
>>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
>>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
>>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
> t
>>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
>>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
>>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>>>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
>>>> apps
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> published...   :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>>>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>>>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>> deemed
>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>>>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
>>>>>>> spark
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
>>>> fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
>>>>>>> screenshots.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
>>>> app
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
>>>> at
>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
>>>> working
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
>>>> reasonably
>>>>>>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
>>>>>>>> accomplish
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>>>>>>>>> productivity
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>>>>>>>>>> structured
>>>>>>>>>>>> programming?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
>>>> capacities...
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> post them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
>>>> on
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
>>>> there
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
>>>>>>>> viable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
>>>> web
>>>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> regards,
>>>> Roland
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>> 
>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>> 
>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> 


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Thanks Om and others who posted links,  it is always rewarding to me to see
these end products.

So, it looks like print and photo publishers, paint manufacturers and
video/video conferencing providers have chosen Flex.  My next question is:
why?   Honestly, I have a hard time telling if there is some key aspect of
the site that made Flex the better choice over HTML, especially if you had
to start today.  When I saw Nick's revamp of our site, I thought it was
visually on the same level as these sites.


On 2/5/13 12:24 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:
> 
> https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
> http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
> play)
> http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
> http://www.hbogo.com
> http://www.behr.com,
> http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca51
> 10VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD
> 
> Om
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/VReNum
>> 
>> Om
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>>> 
>>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
>>> actually
>>>>> work :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
>>>> with
>>>>>> this app anymore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
>>> roland@stackandheap.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
>>>>>>> application loaded:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
>>>>>>> service:
>>>>>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
>>>>>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
>>>>>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
>>>>>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
>>>>>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
>>>>>>> total memory: 50823168
>>>>>>> is debugger: false
>>>>>>> language: en
>>>>>>> local file read disable: false
>>>>>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
>>>>>>> os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> player type: PlugIn
>>>>>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> screen dpi: 72
>>>>>>> screen res x: 1920
>>>>>>> screen res y: 1080
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
>>>>>>> Message:Startup Aborted
>>>>>>> eventType: operationError
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
>>>>>>> opClassName:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicat>>>
i
>>>>>> onCmdlet
>>>>>>> activityStack:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,co>>>
m
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplication>>>
C
>>>>>> mdlet
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> result: undefined
>>>>>>> error: Security error accessing url
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30939
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Recent Info Events
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30937
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>> Message:trackPageName called
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
>>>>>>> oldPageName:
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30775
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
>>>>>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
t
>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>>>>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
>>>>>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
>>>>>>> Cmdlet:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndica>>>
t
>>>>>> orCmdlet
>>>>>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>>>>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>>>>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>>>>>> sourceClass:
>>>>>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>>>>>> type: INFO
>>>>>>> appRunTime: 30772
>>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
>>> not
>>>>>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
>>>> your
>>>>>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>>>>>> nicholas@spoon.as
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
>>> apps
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> published...   :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>>>>>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
>>> its
>>>>>>>>> deemed
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>>>>>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
>>>>>> spark
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
>>> fact
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
>>>>>> screenshots.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
>>> app
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
>>> at
>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
>>> working
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
>>> reasonably
>>>>>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
>>>>>>> accomplish
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>>>>>>>> productivity
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>>>>>>>>> structured
>>>>>>>>>>> programming?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
>>> capacities...
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>> post them
>>>>>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
>>> to
>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
>>> on
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>> website...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
>>> there
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>>>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
>>>>>>> viable
>>>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
>>> a
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
>>> web
>>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
>>> that
>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Roland
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Roland Zwaga
>>>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>>>> 
>>>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Harui
>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> regards,
>>> Roland
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Roland Zwaga
>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>> 
>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>> 
>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>> 
>> 
>> 

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
I got these off of the apache flex wikipedia page:

https://www.sherwin-williams.com/visualizer/#
http://www.chesscube.com/play/app/ (app is seen, but need to register to
play)
http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ (Enter your name and click "Join")
http://www.hbogo.com
http://www.behr.com,
http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#view=14;channel=EXPLORE;vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca5110VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD

Om

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:
>
> http://bit.ly/VReNum
>
> Om
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:
>
>> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
>> > >
>> > > But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing
>> actually
>> > > work :)
>> > >
>> > > On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
>> > with
>> > >> this app anymore.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
>> roland@stackandheap.com
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
>> > >>> application loaded:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
>> > >>> service:
>> > >>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
>> > >>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
>> > >>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
>> > >>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
>> > >>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
>> > >>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
>> > >>> total memory: 50823168
>> > >>> is debugger: false
>> > >>> language: en
>> > >>> local file read disable: false
>> > >>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
>> > >>> os: Windows 8
>> > >>> player type: PlugIn
>> > >>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> screen dpi: 72
>> > >>> screen res x: 1920
>> > >>> screen res y: 1080
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
>> > >>> Message:Startup Aborted
>> > >>> eventType: operationError
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
>> > >>> opClassName:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicati
>> > >> onCmdlet
>> > >>> activityStack:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com
>> > >>
>> >
>> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationC
>> > >> mdlet
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> result: undefined
>> > >>> error: Security error accessing url
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> sourceClass:
>> > >> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30939
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Recent Info Events
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
>> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
>> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>> > >>> type: INFO
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30937
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
>> > >>> Message:trackPageName called
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
>> > >>> oldPageName:
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30775
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
>> > >>> type: INFO
>> > >>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
>> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
>> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>> > >>> type: INFO
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
>> > >>> Message:The cmdlet completed
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>> > >>> Cmdlet:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
>> > >> orCmdlet
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> sourceClass:
>> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>> > >>> type: INFO
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
>> > >>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
>> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
>> > >>> Cmdlet:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
>> > >> orCmdlet
>> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>> > >>> sourceClass:
>> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>> > >>> type: INFO
>> > >>> appRunTime: 30772
>> > >>> ====================================
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does
>> not
>> > >>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
>> > your
>> > >>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
>> > >> etc.)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>> > >>>>
>> > >>
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Om
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>> > >> nicholas@spoon.as
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
>> > >> doing
>> > >>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
>> apps
>> > >> I
>> > >>>>> published...   :
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>
>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>> > >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> -Nick
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>> > >>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
>> its
>> > >>>>> deemed
>> > >>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>> > >>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
>> > >> spark
>> > >>>> so
>> > >>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the
>> fact
>> > >>> that
>> > >>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
>> > >> screenshots.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
>> > >>> would
>> > >>>> be
>> > >>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
>> app
>> > >>>> would
>> > >>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least
>> at
>> > >>> home
>> > >>>>> over
>> > >>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>> > >>>> really
>> > >>>>> try
>> > >>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
>> working
>> > >>> on
>> > >>>> so
>> > >>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
>> reasonably
>> > >>>>> quickly,
>> > >>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
>> > >>> accomplish
>> > >>>>> that
>> > >>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
>> > >> any
>> > >>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
>> > >>> apps
>> > >>>>> are
>> > >>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>> > >>>> productivity
>> > >>>>> is
>> > >>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>> > >>>>> structured
>> > >>>>>>> programming?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Alex Harui
>> > >>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>> > >>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>> > >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both
>> capacities...
>> > >>> ;-)
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
>> > >>> just
>> > >>>>>>>> post them
>> > >>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>> > >>>> problem
>> > >>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies
>> to
>> > >>>> allow
>> > >>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
>> on
>> > >>> our
>> > >>>>>>>>> website...
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>> > >>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
>> there
>> > >>> was
>> > >>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
>> > >> possible
>> > >>>>> with
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
>> > >> maybe
>> > >>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>> > >>>>>>>>>> application).
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
>> >:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
>> > >>> quality
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
>> > >>> viable
>> > >>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has
>> a
>> > >>> list
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
>> web
>> > >>>> apps,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
>> that
>> > >>>> list.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
>> > >> knows
>> > >>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> regards,
>> > >>> Roland
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Roland Zwaga
>> > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>> > >>>
>> > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>> > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>> > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>> > >>> http://www.as3commons.org
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > regards,
>> > > Roland
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Roland Zwaga
>> > > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>> > >
>> > > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>> > http://www.stackandheap.com
>> > >
>> > > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>> > > http://www.springactionscript.org
>> > > http://www.as3commons.org
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alex Harui
>> > Flex SDK Team
>> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
>> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> Roland
>>
>> --
>> Roland Zwaga
>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>
>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>
>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>
>
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Here is one public facing Flex app by Snapfish:

http://bit.ly/VReNum

Om

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:

> ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)
>
> On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> > >
> > > But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing actually
> > > work :)
> > >
> > > On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
> > with
> > >> this app anymore.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <
> roland@stackandheap.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> > >>> application loaded:
> > >>>
> > >>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
> > >>> service:
> > >>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > >>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > >>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > >>>
> > >>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > >>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > >>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> > >>> total memory: 50823168
> > >>> is debugger: false
> > >>> language: en
> > >>> local file read disable: false
> > >>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > >>> os: Windows 8
> > >>> player type: PlugIn
> > >>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> screen dpi: 72
> > >>> screen res x: 1920
> > >>> screen res y: 1080
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > >>> Message:Startup Aborted
> > >>> eventType: operationError
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > >>> opClassName:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicati
> > >> onCmdlet
> > >>> activityStack:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com
> > >>
> >
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationC
> > >> mdlet
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> result: undefined
> > >>> error: Security error accessing url
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > >>> appRunTime: 30939
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Recent Info Events
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30937
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:trackPageName called
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > >>> oldPageName:
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> appRunTime: 30775
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:Sending a notification
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > >>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
> > >> orCmdlet
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30773
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>> Type: APP_INFO
> > >>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > >>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > >>> Cmdlet:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
> > >> orCmdlet
> > >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > >>> sourceClass:
> > >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > >>> type: INFO
> > >>> appRunTime: 30772
> > >>> ====================================
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
> > >>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
> > your
> > >>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
> > >> etc.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> > >>>>
> > >>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Om
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > >> nicholas@spoon.as
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
> > >> doing
> > >>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0
> apps
> > >> I
> > >>>>> published...   :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > >>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if
> its
> > >>>>> deemed
> > >>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > >>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
> > >> spark
> > >>>> so
> > >>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> > >> screenshots.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> > >>> would
> > >>>> be
> > >>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase
> app
> > >>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at
> > >>> home
> > >>>>> over
> > >>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
> > >>>> really
> > >>>>> try
> > >>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm
> working
> > >>> on
> > >>>> so
> > >>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup
> reasonably
> > >>>>> quickly,
> > >>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > >>> accomplish
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
> > >> any
> > >>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
> > >>> apps
> > >>>>> are
> > >>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > >>>> productivity
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> > >>>>> structured
> > >>>>>>> programming?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Alex Harui
> > >>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> > >>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities...
> > >>> ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
> > >>> just
> > >>>>>>>> post them
> > >>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> > >>>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
> > >>>> allow
> > >>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put
> on
> > >>> our
> > >>>>>>>>> website...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page
> there
> > >>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> > >> possible
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> > >> maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > >>>>>>>>>> application).
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> > >>> quality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> > >>> viable
> > >>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a
> > >>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of
> web
> > >>>> apps,
> > >>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join
> that
> > >>>> list.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> > >> knows
> > >>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> regards,
> > >>> Roland
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Roland Zwaga
> > >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >>>
> > >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >>>
> > >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> > >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > regards,
> > > Roland
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roland Zwaga
> > > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> > >
> > > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > http://www.stackandheap.com
> > >
> > > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > > http://www.as3commons.org
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Roland
>
> --
> Roland Zwaga
> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>
> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> http://www.stackandheap.com
>
> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> http://www.springactionscript.org
> http://www.as3commons.org
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>.
ok, on third try it worked, hopefully it was just a glitch then :)

On 5 February 2013 20:59, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.
>
>
> On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:
>
> > I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> >
> > But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing actually
> > work :)
> >
> > On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved
> with
> >> this app anymore.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <roland@stackandheap.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> >>> application loaded:
> >>>
> >>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
> >>> service:
> >>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> >>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> >>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >>>
> >>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> >>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> >>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> >>> total memory: 50823168
> >>> is debugger: false
> >>> language: en
> >>> local file read disable: false
> >>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> >>> os: Windows 8
> >>> player type: PlugIn
> >>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> screen dpi: 72
> >>> screen res x: 1920
> >>> screen res y: 1080
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> >>> Message:Startup Aborted
> >>> eventType: operationError
> >>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> >>> opClassName:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicati
> >> onCmdlet
> >>> activityStack:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com
> >>
> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationC
> >> mdlet
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> result: undefined
> >>> error: Security error accessing url
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> sourceClass:
> >> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> >>> appRunTime: 30939
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Recent Info Events
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>> type: INFO
> >>> appRunTime: 30937
> >>> ====================================
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>> Message:trackPageName called
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> >>> oldPageName:
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> appRunTime: 30775
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> >>> type: INFO
> >>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> >>> ====================================
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>> Message:Sending a notification
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> >>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> >>> type: INFO
> >>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>> ====================================
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>> Message:The cmdlet completed
> >>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> >>> Cmdlet:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
> >> orCmdlet
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> sourceClass:
> >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>> type: INFO
> >>> appRunTime: 30773
> >>> ====================================
> >>> ====================================
> >>> Type: APP_INFO
> >>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> >>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> >>> Cmdlet:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
> >> orCmdlet
> >>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> >>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> >>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> >>> sourceClass:
> >> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> >>> type: INFO
> >>> appRunTime: 30772
> >>> ====================================
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
> >>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from
> your
> >>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
> >> etc.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> >>>>
> >> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Om
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >> nicholas@spoon.as
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
> >> doing
> >>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps
> >> I
> >>>>> published...   :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> >>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
> >>>>> deemed
> >>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> >>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
> >> spark
> >>>> so
> >>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> >> screenshots.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> >>> would
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at
> >>> home
> >>>>> over
> >>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
> >>>> really
> >>>>> try
> >>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working
> >>> on
> >>>> so
> >>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
> >>>>> quickly,
> >>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> >>> accomplish
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
> >> any
> >>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
> >>> apps
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> >>>> productivity
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> >>>>> structured
> >>>>>>> programming?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
> >>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities...
> >>> ;-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
> >>> just
> >>>>>>>> post them
> >>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> >>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
> >>>> allow
> >>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on
> >>> our
> >>>>>>>>> website...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there
> >>> was
> >>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> >> possible
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> >> maybe
> >>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> >>>>>>>>>> application).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> >>> quality
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> >>> viable
> >>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a
> >>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
> >>>> apps,
> >>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
> >>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> >> knows
> >>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> regards,
> >>> Roland
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Roland Zwaga
> >>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >>>
> >>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> >>> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >>>
> >>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.springactionscript.org
> >>> http://www.as3commons.org
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Roland
> >
> > --
> > Roland Zwaga
> > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >
> > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> http://www.stackandheap.com
> >
> > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > http://www.as3commons.org
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>


-- 
regards,
Roland

-- 
Roland Zwaga
Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA

+32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com | http://www.stackandheap.com

http://zwaga.blogspot.com
http://www.springactionscript.org
http://www.as3commons.org

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Both links worked for me on Mac Safari.


On 2/5/13 11:57 AM, "Roland Zwaga" <ro...@stackandheap.com> wrote:

> I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)
> 
> But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing actually
> work :)
> 
> On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved with
>> this app anymore.
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <roland@stackandheap.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
>>> application loaded:
>>> 
>>> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
>>> service:
>>> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
>>> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
>>> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>>> 
>>> Please provide this information with your contact details:
>>> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
>>> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
>>> total memory: 50823168
>>> is debugger: false
>>> language: en
>>> local file read disable: false
>>> manufacturer: Google Pepper
>>> os: Windows 8
>>> player type: PlugIn
>>> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> screen dpi: 72
>>> screen res x: 1920
>>> screen res y: 1080
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: FATAL_EVENT
>>> Message:Startup Aborted
>>> eventType: operationError
>>> System.totalMemory: 50802688
>>> opClassName:
>>> 
>>> 
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicati
>> onCmdlet
>>> activityStack:
>>> 
>>> 
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com
>> .shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationC
>> mdlet
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> result: undefined
>>> error: Security error accessing url
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> sourceClass:
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
>>> appRunTime: 30939
>>> ====================================
>>> Recent Info Events
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> System.totalMemory: 50798592
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>> type: INFO
>>> appRunTime: 30937
>>> ====================================
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>> Message:trackPageName called
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> System.totalMemory: 47570944
>>> oldPageName:
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> appRunTime: 30775
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
>>> type: INFO
>>> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
>>> ====================================
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>> Message:Sending a notification
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
>>> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
>>> type: INFO
>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>> ====================================
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>> Message:The cmdlet completed
>>> System.totalMemory: 47517696
>>> Cmdlet:
>>> 
>>> 
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
>> orCmdlet
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> sourceClass:
>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>> type: INFO
>>> appRunTime: 30773
>>> ====================================
>>> ====================================
>>> Type: APP_INFO
>>> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
>>> System.totalMemory: 47513600
>>> Cmdlet:
>>> 
>>> 
>> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicat
>> orCmdlet
>>> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
>>> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
>>> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
>>> sourceClass:
>> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
>>> type: INFO
>>> appRunTime: 30772
>>> ====================================
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
>>>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
>>>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
>> etc.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>>>> 
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Om
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>> nicholas@spoon.as
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
>> doing
>>>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps
>> I
>>>>> published...   :
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Nick
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>>>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
>>>>> deemed
>>>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>>>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
>> spark
>>>> so
>>>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact
>>> that
>>>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
>> screenshots.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
>>> would
>>>> be
>>>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
>>>> would
>>>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at
>>> home
>>>>> over
>>>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>>>> really
>>>>> try
>>>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working
>>> on
>>>> so
>>>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
>>> accomplish
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
>> any
>>>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
>>> apps
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>>>> productivity
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>>>>> structured
>>>>>>> programming?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities...
>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
>>> just
>>>>>>>> post them
>>>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on
>>> our
>>>>>>>>> website...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
>> possible
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
>>> viable
>>>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a
>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
>> knows
>>>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> regards,
>>> Roland
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Roland Zwaga
>>> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>>> 
>>> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
>>> http://www.stackandheap.com
>>> 
>>> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.springactionscript.org
>>> http://www.as3commons.org
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> regards,
> Roland
> 
> --
> Roland Zwaga
> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> 
> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com | http://www.stackandheap.com
> 
> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> http://www.springactionscript.org
> http://www.as3commons.org

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>.
I wasn't implying you should fix the bug :)

But we do have to make sure that all of the apps we're listing actually
work :)

On 5 February 2013 20:54, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved with
> this app anymore.
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <roland@stackandheap.com
> >wrote:
>
> > When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> > application loaded:
> >
> > We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
> > service:
> > Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> > Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> > Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> > Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> >
> > Please provide this information with your contact details:
> > build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> > client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> > total memory: 50823168
> > is debugger: false
> > language: en
> > local file read disable: false
> > manufacturer: Google Pepper
> > os: Windows 8
> > player type: PlugIn
> > version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > screen dpi: 72
> > screen res x: 1920
> > screen res y: 1080
> > ====================================
> > Type: FATAL_EVENT
> > Message:Startup Aborted
> > eventType: operationError
> > System.totalMemory: 50802688
> > opClassName:
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> > activityStack:
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > result: undefined
> > error: Security error accessing url
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > sourceClass:
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> > appRunTime: 30939
> > ====================================
> > Recent Info Events
> > ====================================
> > Type: APP_INFO
> > Message:Sending a notification
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > System.totalMemory: 50798592
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> > sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > type: INFO
> > appRunTime: 30937
> > ====================================
> > ====================================
> > Type: APP_INFO
> > Message:trackPageName called
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > System.totalMemory: 47570944
> > oldPageName:
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > appRunTime: 30775
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> > type: INFO
> > newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> > ====================================
> > ====================================
> > Type: APP_INFO
> > Message:Sending a notification
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> > sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> > type: INFO
> > appRunTime: 30773
> > ====================================
> > ====================================
> > Type: APP_INFO
> > Message:The cmdlet completed
> > System.totalMemory: 47517696
> > Cmdlet:
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > sourceClass:
> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > type: INFO
> > appRunTime: 30773
> > ====================================
> > ====================================
> > Type: APP_INFO
> > Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> > System.totalMemory: 47513600
> > Cmdlet:
> >
> >
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> > System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> > Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> > Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> > sourceClass:
> com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> > type: INFO
> > appRunTime: 30772
> > ====================================
> >
> >
> > On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
> > > require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
> > > desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook,
> etc.)
> > >
> > >
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> > >
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> nicholas@spoon.as
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been
> doing
> > > > mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps
> I
> > > > published...   :
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> > > >
> > > > -Nick
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > > subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
> > > > deemed
> > > > > appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > > > http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is
> spark
> > > so
> > > > i can easily update it to 4.9
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact
> > that
> > > > >> most apps require a login so most of what you have are
> screenshots.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> > would
> > > be
> > > > >> nice to have in a showcase.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
> > > would
> > > > >> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at
> > home
> > > > over
> > > > >> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
> > > really
> > > > try
> > > > >> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working
> > on
> > > so
> > > > >> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
> > > > quickly,
> > > > >> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> > accomplish
> > > > that
> > > > >> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases
> any
> > > > >> advantages of Flex.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
> > apps
> > > > are
> > > > >> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > > productivity
> > > > is
> > > > >> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> > > > structured
> > > > >> programming?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alex Harui
> > > > >> Apache Flex Team
> > > > >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > > > >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities...
> > ;-)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
> > just
> > > > >>> post them
> > > > >>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> > > problem
> > > > >>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
> > > allow
> > > > >>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on
> > our
> > > > >>>> website...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -Nick
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > > > >>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there
> > was
> > > > >>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's
> possible
> > > > with
> > > > >>>>> Flex.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And
> maybe
> > > > >>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > > > >>>>> application).
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> > quality
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> > viable
> > > > >>>>> option for their own needs.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a
> > list
> > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
> > > apps,
> > > > >>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
> > > list.
> > > > >>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one
> knows
> > > > >>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> What do you think?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Harbs
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Roland
> >
> > --
> > Roland Zwaga
> > Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> >
> > +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> > http://www.stackandheap.com
> >
> > http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> > http://www.springactionscript.org
> > http://www.as3commons.org
> >
>



-- 
regards,
Roland

-- 
Roland Zwaga
Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA

+32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com | http://www.stackandheap.com

http://zwaga.blogspot.com
http://www.springactionscript.org
http://www.as3commons.org

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Well, did you contact customer service? ;-)  Sorry, I am not involved with
this app anymore.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>wrote:

> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> application loaded:
>
> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
> service:
> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
>
> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> total memory: 50823168
> is debugger: false
> language: en
> local file read disable: false
> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> os: Windows 8
> player type: PlugIn
> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> screen dpi: 72
> screen res x: 1920
> screen res y: 1080
> ====================================
> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> Message:Startup Aborted
> eventType: operationError
> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> opClassName:
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> activityStack:
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> result: undefined
> error: Security error accessing url
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> appRunTime: 30939
> ====================================
> Recent Info Events
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:Sending a notification
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30937
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:trackPageName called
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> oldPageName:
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> appRunTime: 30775
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> type: INFO
> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:Sending a notification
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30773
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:The cmdlet completed
> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> Cmdlet:
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30773
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> Cmdlet:
>
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30772
> ====================================
>
>
> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
> > require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
> > desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook, etc.)
> >
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> > http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been doing
> > > mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps I
> > > published...   :
> > >
> > >
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> > >
> > > -Nick
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> > subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
> > > deemed
> > > > appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > > http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark
> > so
> > > i can easily update it to 4.9
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact
> that
> > > >> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
> > > >>
> > > >> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that
> would
> > be
> > > >> nice to have in a showcase.
> > > >>
> > > >> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
> > would
> > > >> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at
> home
> > > over
> > > >> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
> > really
> > > try
> > > >> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > > >>
> > > >> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working
> on
> > so
> > > >> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
> > > quickly,
> > > >> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can
> accomplish
> > > that
> > > >> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
> > > >> advantages of Flex.
> > > >>
> > > >> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic
> apps
> > > are
> > > >> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> > productivity
> > > is
> > > >> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> > > structured
> > > >> programming?
> > > >>
> > > >> Alex Harui
> > > >> Apache Flex Team
> > > >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > > >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities...
> ;-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can
> just
> > > >>> post them
> > > >>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> > problem
> > > >>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
> > allow
> > > >>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on
> our
> > > >>>> website...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Nick
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > > >>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there
> was
> > > >>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible
> > > with
> > > >>>>> Flex.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
> > > >>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > > >>>>> application).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people
> quality
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a
> viable
> > > >>>>> option for their own needs.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a
> list
> > > >>>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
> > apps,
> > > >>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
> > list.
> > > >>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
> > > >>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> What do you think?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Harbs
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Roland
>
> --
> Roland Zwaga
> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
>
> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com |
> http://www.stackandheap.com
>
> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> http://www.springactionscript.org
> http://www.as3commons.org
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Roland,

Both apps worked for me. Maybe you need a restart? ;-)

On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Roland Zwaga wrote:

> When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
> application loaded:
> 
> We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
> service:
> Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
> Phone: 1-888-225-7159
> Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
> Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time
> 
> Please provide this information with your contact details:
> build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
> client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
> total memory: 50823168
> is debugger: false
> language: en
> local file read disable: false
> manufacturer: Google Pepper
> os: Windows 8
> player type: PlugIn
> version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> screen dpi: 72
> screen res x: 1920
> screen res y: 1080
> ====================================
> Type: FATAL_EVENT
> Message:Startup Aborted
> eventType: operationError
> System.totalMemory: 50802688
> opClassName:
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> activityStack:
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> result: undefined
> error: Security error accessing url
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
> appRunTime: 30939
> ====================================
> Recent Info Events
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:Sending a notification
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> System.totalMemory: 50798592
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30937
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:trackPageName called
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.totalMemory: 47570944
> oldPageName:
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> appRunTime: 30775
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
> type: INFO
> newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:Sending a notification
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30773
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:The cmdlet completed
> System.totalMemory: 47517696
> Cmdlet:
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30773
> ====================================
> ====================================
> Type: APP_INFO
> Message:About to execute a synchronous cmdlet
> System.totalMemory: 47513600
> Cmdlet:
> com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
> System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
> Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
> Capabilities.os: Windows 8
> sourceClass: com.shutterfly.operations.monitoring::CmdletAppEventDispatcher
> type: INFO
> appRunTime: 30772
> ====================================
> 
> 
> On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
>> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
>> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook, etc.)
>> 
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been doing
>>> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps I
>>> published...   :
>>> 
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>>> 
>>> -Nick
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
>> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
>>> deemed
>>>> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
>>> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark
>> so
>>> i can easily update it to 4.9
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
>>>>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would
>> be
>>>>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
>> would
>>>>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home
>>> over
>>>>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
>> really
>>> try
>>>>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on
>> so
>>>>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
>>> quickly,
>>>>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish
>>> that
>>>>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
>>>>> advantages of Flex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps
>>> are
>>>>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
>> productivity
>>> is
>>>>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
>>> structured
>>>>> programming?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>> Apache Flex Team
>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
>>>>>> post them
>>>>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
>> problem
>>>>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
>> allow
>>>>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
>>>>>>> website...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible
>>> with
>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>>>>> application).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
>> apps,
>>>>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
>> list.
>>>>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Roland
> 
> -- 
> Roland Zwaga
> Senior Consultant | Stack & Heap BVBA
> 
> +32 (0)486 16 12 62 | roland@stackandheap.com | http://www.stackandheap.com
> 
> http://zwaga.blogspot.com
> http://www.springactionscript.org
> http://www.as3commons.org


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Roland Zwaga <ro...@stackandheap.com>.
When I try the first link I immediately get this error after the
application loaded:

We are sorry you are having problems. To contact Shutterfly customer
service:
Email: customerservice@cs.shutterfly.com
Phone: 1-888-225-7159
Monday - Friday: 6am - 5pm Pacific Time
Saturday - Sunday: 8:30am - 5pm Pacific Time

Please provide this information with your contact details:
build: r13.0 01/07/2013 16:51
client time: Tue Feb 5 20:47:53 GMT+0100 2013
total memory: 50823168
is debugger: false
language: en
local file read disable: false
manufacturer: Google Pepper
os: Windows 8
player type: PlugIn
version: WIN 11,6,602,167
screen dpi: 72
screen res x: 1920
screen res y: 1080
====================================
Type: FATAL_EVENT
Message:Startup Aborted
eventType: operationError
System.totalMemory: 50802688
opClassName:
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
activityStack:
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::LoadUserSessionDataCmdlet,com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.initialization::StartApplicationCmdlet
Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
result: undefined
error: Security error accessing url
Capabilities.os: Windows 8
sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller::StartupCommand
appRunTime: 30939
====================================
Recent Info Events
====================================
Type: APP_INFO
Message:Sending a notification
Capabilities.os: Windows 8
System.totalMemory: 50798592
Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
NOTIFICATION: OOPS_EVENT
sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
type: INFO
appRunTime: 30937
====================================
====================================
Type: APP_INFO
Message:trackPageName called
Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
System.totalMemory: 47570944
oldPageName:
System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
appRunTime: 30775
Capabilities.os: Windows 8
sourceClass: com.shutterfly.omniture::SflyActionSourceImpl
type: INFO
newPageName: Custompath/OopsDialog
====================================
====================================
Type: APP_INFO
Message:Sending a notification
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System.totalMemory: 47517696
Capabilities.version: WIN 11,6,602,167
System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
NOTIFICATION: FORCE_HIDE_PLEASE_WAIT_INDICATOR
sourceClass: com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell::ShellFacade
type: INFO
appRunTime: 30773
====================================
====================================
Type: APP_INFO
Message:The cmdlet completed
System.totalMemory: 47517696
Cmdlet:
com.shutterfly.web.custompath.shell.controller.cmdlets::HidePleaseWaitIndicatorCmdlet
System.vmVersion: 2.1 sec cyclone
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On 5 February 2013 20:31, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
> require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
> desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook, etc.)
>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
> http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as
> >wrote:
>
> > I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been doing
> > mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps I
> > published...   :
> >
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <
> subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
> > deemed
> > > appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> > http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark
> so
> > i can easily update it to 4.9
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >
> > >> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> > >>
> > >> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
> > >> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
> > >>
> > >> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would
> be
> > >> nice to have in a showcase.
> > >>
> > >> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app
> would
> > >> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home
> > over
> > >> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't
> really
> > try
> > >> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> > >>
> > >> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on
> so
> > >> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
> > quickly,
> > >> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish
> > that
> > >> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
> > >> advantages of Flex.
> > >>
> > >> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps
> > are
> > >> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer
> productivity
> > is
> > >> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> > structured
> > >> programming?
> > >>
> > >> Alex Harui
> > >> Apache Flex Team
> > >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> > >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
> > >>> post them
> > >>> here as a starting point for the list.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only
> problem
> > >>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to
> allow
> > >>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
> > >>>> website...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Nick
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > >>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
> > >>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible
> > with
> > >>>>> Flex.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
> > >>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> > >>>>> application).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Marcus Fritze
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
> > >>>>> option for their own needs.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web
> apps,
> > >>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that
> list.
> > >>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
> > >>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Harbs
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>



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Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
A couple of projects that I was involved with in the past - does not
require login to launch.  You could work off of your pictures from your
desktop or chose to login to one of the providers listed (facebook, etc.)

http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=bbc315ed9d1d8661
http://www.shutterfly.com/simplepath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=3a3b75397df239b0

Thanks,
Om

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:

> I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been doing
> mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps I
> published...   :
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <subscriptions@leeburrows.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its
> deemed
> > appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<
> http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark so
> i can easily update it to 4.9
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> >
> >> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
> >>
> >> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
> >> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
> >>
> >> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be
> >> nice to have in a showcase.
> >>
> >> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would
> >> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home
> over
> >> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really
> try
> >> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
> >>
> >> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so
> >> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably
> quickly,
> >> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish
> that
> >> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
> >> advantages of Flex.
> >>
> >> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps
> are
> >> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity
> is
> >> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use
> structured
> >> programming?
> >>
> >> Alex Harui
> >> Apache Flex Team
> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> >>>
> >>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
> >>> post them
> >>> here as a starting point for the list.
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
> >>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
> >>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
> >>>> website...
> >>>>
> >>>> -Nick
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> >>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
> >>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible
> with
> >>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
> >>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
> >>>>> application).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
> >>>>> option for their own needs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
> >>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
> >>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
> >>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Harbs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I've got a few apps to show off, but in all honesty -- I've been doing
mostly mobile work lately.  Here is one of the first Flex 4.8.0 apps I
published...   :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.org.pointi.androidApp
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pointillism/id556476833?ls=1&mt=8

-Nick

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>wrote:

> Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its deemed
> appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.**com/<http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/>- it was built pre-Apache but is spark so i can easily update it to 4.9
>
>
>
> On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>>
>> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that
>> most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
>>
>> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be
>> nice to have in a showcase.
>>
>> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would
>> be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over
>> DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try
>> it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>>
>> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so
>> that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly,
>> but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that
>> doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any
>> advantages of Flex.
>>
>> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are
>> becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is
>> our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured
>> programming?
>>
>> Alex Harui
>> Apache Flex Team
>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>>
>>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>>>
>>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just
>>> post them
>>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
>>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
>>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our
>>>> website...
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with
>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>
>>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the
>>>>> application).
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>>>>
>>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
>>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
>>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
Im happy for this small web app (and source code) to be used if its 
deemed appropriate: http://mandelbrot-explorer.com/ - it was built 
pre-Apache but is spark so i can easily update it to 4.9


On 05/02/2013 18:57, Alex Harui wrote:
> It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.
>
> The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.
>
> I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be nice to have in a showcase.
>
> One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.
>
> Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly, but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any advantages of Flex.
>
> That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured programming?
>
> Alex Harui
> Apache Flex Team
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
>>
>> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
>>
>> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just post them
>> here as a starting point for the list.
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
>>> was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
>>> us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our website...
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
>>> <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
>>>> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
>>>>
>>>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>>>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
>>>>
>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>>>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
>>>> option for their own needs.
>>>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
>>>>> of
>>>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
>>>> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
>>>> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
>>>> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Harbs
>>>>
>


RE: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
It would definitely be great to get some apps for the showcase.  

The Adobe Flex showcase is still up, but it suffers from the fact that most apps require a login so most of what you have are screenshots.

I sent a screenshot of PrintUI to Infoworld, and apps like that would be nice to have in a showcase.

One thing I've been pondering is that what the killer showcase app would be.  Even PrintUI requires a healthy wait at startup (at least at home over DSL) and the task to perform takes "a while" so most folks won't really try it to completion and get a good feel for what it can do.

Startup time is an important part of the new framework I'm working on so that public-facing apps over slower connections startup reasonably quickly, but it I am still searching for a task that the public can accomplish that doesn't require money, logins, several steps, etc, but showcases any advantages of Flex.

That said, the static screenshots and even some of these dynamic apps are becoming easier to do in HTML.  So really, maybe developer productivity is our best selling point these days?  Or is it the ability to use structured programming?

Alex Harui
Apache Flex Team
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex
> 
> Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities... ;-)
> 
> Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just post them
> here as a starting point for the list.
> 
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> 
> > I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem
> > was seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow
> > us to use their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our website...
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze
> > <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was
> >> also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
> >>
> >> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
> >> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
> >>
> >> Marcus Fritze
> >>
> >> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
> >> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable
> >> option for their own needs.
> >>>
> >>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list
> >>> of
> >> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps,
> >> iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list.
> >> Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows
> >> what technology you used to create a mobile app...
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Harbs
> >>
> >>


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Well, you can feel free to use PrintUI.com in both capacities… ;-)

Anyone on the dev list who has permission to showcase apps, can just post them here as a starting point for the list.

On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:

> I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem was
> seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow us to use
> their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our website...
> 
> -Nick
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was also a
>> showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
>> 
>> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
>> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
>> 
>> Marcus Fritze
>> 
>> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
>> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option
>> for their own needs.
>>> 
>>> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of
>> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS
>> apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile
>> apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology
>> you used to create a mobile app…
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> Harbs
>> 
>> 


Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I'd love to see something like this on the website.  The only problem was
seeding the list.  Heck, I couldn't even get 6 companies to allow us to use
their logos to say that they use Apache Flex to put on our website...

-Nick

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Marcus Fritze <marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was also a
> showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.
>
> And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe
> "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).
>
> Marcus Fritze
>
> Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality
> working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option
> for their own needs.
> >
> > Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of
> featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS
> apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile
> apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology
> you used to create a mobile app…
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Harbs
>
>

Re: [PR] Getting people excited about Flex

Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Yes, this sounds good. I think, on the old flex.org page there was also a showcase section. And everybody could see, what's possible with Flex.

And we should not forget the category desktop AIR apps. And maybe "categorize" these apps into topics (or tags - what does the application).

Marcus Fritze

Am 05.02.2013 um 16:28 schrieb Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:

> I was thinking: There's nothing quite like showing people quality working applications to convince them that a technology is a viable option for their own needs.
> 
> Should we have a featured page of the Flex website that has a list of featured applications? We could break it into categories of web apps, iOS apps and Android apps. Eventually HTML apps could join that list. Mobile apps are probably the most important, because no one knows what technology you used to create a mobile app…
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Harbs