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RE: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way - educati
onal context
Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to contain this
graphical notation. Should be nice.
Jelle
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Van: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:agallardo@agsoftware.dnsalias.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 21 januari 2004 12:16
Aan: users@cocoon.apache.org
Onderwerp: Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way -
educational context
Stephen Winnall dijo:
> It would be nice to have a visual editor for the sitemap to edit, view
> and debug
> it. I've been looking for such a beast for over a year, but the best I
> have found
> is Pollo. Pollo is great in its own way, but is text-based. I like
> pictures and
> could imagine something like a UML editor for the sitemap, but I don't
> have the
> time or the skills to "knock it up". It might make an interesting
> semester project
> for your students though...
Hi:
There is a interesting graphical notation that Stefano presented at
Gent2003. Maybe this could be the base to write the sitemap in a graphical
way and then generate the sitemap.xmap:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=GT2003Stefano
the presentation is at:
http://apache.mirrors.hoobly.com/cocoon/events/gt2003/
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way - educati onal context
Posted by Stephen Winnall <st...@winnall.ch>.
I'm not sure about the license. I've sent an e-mail to the author, Felix
Golubov, to see what he says.
Steve
On 22 Jan 2004, at 13:38, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Hi Stephen:
>
> What kind of license has Xample? Looks like it is not Open. If this is
> true, then we have a problem in this implementation.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo
>
>
> Stephen Winnall dijo:
>> I've been thinking about the sitemap editor/viewer thing. There is a
>> graphics
>> framework called GEF which is used for ArgoUML and Poseidon (UML
>> diagrams). I
>> have also discovered an XML schema driven editor called XAmple (see
>> http://www.felixgolubov.com/XMLEditor/). Now imagine you could marry
>> GEF and
>> XAmple or Pollo: then you would have a graphic sitemap editor. Using
>> XAmple
>> would presuppose the existence of an XML schema for the sitemap, of
>> course,
>> but would give you a generic editor which could be used for other
>> schemas too.
>>
>> Does sunbow do anything like this?
>>
>> It would make sense to use Stefano's graphical notation for the
>> pipelines, but
>> what about the rest of the sitemap?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 22 Jan 2004, at 11:20, Alten, Jelle Paul wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to
>>> contain
>>> this
>>> graphical notation. Should be nice.
>>>
>>> Jelle
>>>
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>>> Onderwerp: Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way -
>>> educational context
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Winnall dijo:
>>>> It would be nice to have a visual editor for the sitemap to edit,
>>>> view
>>>> and debug
>>>> it. I've been looking for such a beast for over a year, but the
>>>> best I
>>>> have found
>>>> is Pollo. Pollo is great in its own way, but is text-based. I like
>>>> pictures and
>>>> could imagine something like a UML editor for the sitemap, but I
>>>> don't
>>>> have the
>>>> time or the skills to "knock it up". It might make an interesting
>>>> semester project
>>>> for your students though...
>>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> There is a interesting graphical notation that Stefano presented at
>>> Gent2003. Maybe this could be the base to write the sitemap in a
>>> graphical
>>> way and then generate the sitemap.xmap:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=GT2003Stefano
>>>
>>> the presentation is at:
>>>
>>> http://apache.mirrors.hoobly.com/cocoon/events/gt2003/
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio Gallardo
>>>
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Re: Sitemap viewer,
using the sitemap in a creative way - educati onal context
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agsoftware.dnsalias.com>.
Hi Stephen:
What kind of license has Xample? Looks like it is not Open. If this is
true, then we have a problem in this implementation.
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
Stephen Winnall dijo:
> I've been thinking about the sitemap editor/viewer thing. There is a
> graphics
> framework called GEF which is used for ArgoUML and Poseidon (UML
> diagrams). I
> have also discovered an XML schema driven editor called XAmple (see
> http://www.felixgolubov.com/XMLEditor/). Now imagine you could marry
> GEF and
> XAmple or Pollo: then you would have a graphic sitemap editor. Using
> XAmple
> would presuppose the existence of an XML schema for the sitemap, of
> course,
> but would give you a generic editor which could be used for other
> schemas too.
>
> Does sunbow do anything like this?
>
> It would make sense to use Stefano's graphical notation for the
> pipelines, but
> what about the rest of the sitemap?
>
> Steve
>
> On 22 Jan 2004, at 11:20, Alten, Jelle Paul wrote:
>
>>
>> Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to contain
>> this
>> graphical notation. Should be nice.
>>
>> Jelle
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:agallardo@agsoftware.dnsalias.com]
>> Verzonden: woensdag 21 januari 2004 12:16
>> Aan: users@cocoon.apache.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way -
>> educational context
>>
>>
>> Stephen Winnall dijo:
>>> It would be nice to have a visual editor for the sitemap to edit, view
>>> and debug
>>> it. I've been looking for such a beast for over a year, but the best I
>>> have found
>>> is Pollo. Pollo is great in its own way, but is text-based. I like
>>> pictures and
>>> could imagine something like a UML editor for the sitemap, but I don't
>>> have the
>>> time or the skills to "knock it up". It might make an interesting
>>> semester project
>>> for your students though...
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> There is a interesting graphical notation that Stefano presented at
>> Gent2003. Maybe this could be the base to write the sitemap in a
>> graphical
>> way and then generate the sitemap.xmap:
>>
>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=GT2003Stefano
>>
>> the presentation is at:
>>
>> http://apache.mirrors.hoobly.com/cocoon/events/gt2003/
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
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Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way - educati onal context
Posted by Stephen Winnall <st...@winnall.ch>.
I've been thinking about the sitemap editor/viewer thing. There is a
graphics
framework called GEF which is used for ArgoUML and Poseidon (UML
diagrams). I
have also discovered an XML schema driven editor called XAmple (see
http://www.felixgolubov.com/XMLEditor/). Now imagine you could marry
GEF and
XAmple or Pollo: then you would have a graphic sitemap editor. Using
XAmple
would presuppose the existence of an XML schema for the sitemap, of
course,
but would give you a generic editor which could be used for other
schemas too.
Does sunbow do anything like this?
It would make sense to use Stefano's graphical notation for the
pipelines, but
what about the rest of the sitemap?
Steve
On 22 Jan 2004, at 11:20, Alten, Jelle Paul wrote:
>
> Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to contain
> this
> graphical notation. Should be nice.
>
> Jelle
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:agallardo@agsoftware.dnsalias.com]
> Verzonden: woensdag 21 januari 2004 12:16
> Aan: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Onderwerp: Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way -
> educational context
>
>
> Stephen Winnall dijo:
>> It would be nice to have a visual editor for the sitemap to edit, view
>> and debug
>> it. I've been looking for such a beast for over a year, but the best I
>> have found
>> is Pollo. Pollo is great in its own way, but is text-based. I like
>> pictures and
>> could imagine something like a UML editor for the sitemap, but I don't
>> have the
>> time or the skills to "knock it up". It might make an interesting
>> semester project
>> for your students though...
>
> Hi:
>
> There is a interesting graphical notation that Stefano presented at
> Gent2003. Maybe this could be the base to write the sitemap in a
> graphical
> way and then generate the sitemap.xmap:
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=GT2003Stefano
>
> the presentation is at:
>
> http://apache.mirrors.hoobly.com/cocoon/events/gt2003/
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo
>
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RE: Sitemap viewer,
using the sitemap in a creative way - educational context
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agsoftware.dnsalias.com>.
Alten, Jelle Paul dijo:
>
> Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to contain
> this
> graphical notation. Should be nice.
Yes! You are welcome. :-DD
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Sitemap viewer, using the sitemap in a creative way - educati onal context
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Jeudi, 22 jan 2004, à 11:20 Europe/Zurich, Alten, Jelle Paul a écrit
:
> Indeed interesting, I will try to modify the sitemap-viewer to contain
> this
> graphical notation. Should be nice.
Note that there have been talks about adding annotations to sitemaps to
help make them self-describing, see
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25352
(but it's not implemented yet)
-Bertrand
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