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4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Raphael,
>
> Thank you for your effort!
> Hopefully Ariel will still be able to assist, but it is really time for a 4.1.4 RC.
>
> May I suggest that these "release blocker" should also be merged:
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253
> (Update the banners with the new ASF Logo)
+1: It would be nice to have a complete list of changes required to
backport from trunk though. Matthias if you want to go ahead and
handle this, +1 from me.
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127176#c24
> (Java not recognized after update to AOO 4.1.3)
REOPENED.
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127341
> (Update bundled dictionaries for AOO 4.1.4 release)
>
+1 as well...
r1784925 r1784961 r1785175 r1793216
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 03.05.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> I can't add a Target Milestone of 4.1.4 for BZ issue:
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253
strange, it wasn't existing for the "Installation" product but for
others. I've now added it. Please test if it works for you.
Marcus
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
I can't add a Target Milestone of 4.1.4 for BZ issue:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> On May 2, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127341
>>> (Update bundled dictionaries for AOO 4.1.4 release)
>> +1 as well...
>> r1784925 r1784961 r1785175 r1793216
> Backported to 4.1.4...
It seems the Bugzilla bot was confused and didn't annotate the issue
properly in http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1793492
This is a bit of a mess. I've fixed it in the issue page.
Probably, for next commits, you'd better ensure that "#i127341# Updated
English dictionary" (or equivalent) is the first line of the commit, or
manually post a comment to the issue as I did.
Note: Ariel is the release manager so the "+" to the blocker should come
from him. But since he's been unresponsive on the matter, and this is an
obvious blocker, I felt right to go ahead and use my release manager
privileges (left from 4.1.2) to mark the issue as a blocker myself.
For other ones like the logo I would suggest a normal process like: the
issue is nominated as blocker (set to "?"), consensus is built on the
list and if nobody opposes in the standard 72 hours then someone with
the right privileges accepts the issue as blocker (set to "+") and then
code can be backported.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
> On May 2, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127341
>> (Update bundled dictionaries for AOO 4.1.4 release)
>>
>
> +1 as well...
>
> r1784925 r1784961 r1785175 r1793216
>
Backported to 4.1.4...
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Peter Kovacs <pe...@posteo.de>.
Awesome!
Am 24. Mai 2017 14:06:17 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>:
>I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
>release manager :)
>
>As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
>latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
>4.1.4. As such, HEAD of
>http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
>represents what will turn into the likely release.
>
>I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
>ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>
>Comments? Feedback?
>
>> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher
><rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>>
>>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>>
>> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not
>really a blocker.
>>
>> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>>
>> Regards, Raphael
>>
>>
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
> On May 25, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 24/05/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
>> release manager :)
>
> OK, perfect!
>
>> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
>> latest.
>
> I don't think next week is realistic, since the process takes longer. Still, if the idea is to get 4.1.4 out as soon as (realistically) possible, then I totally agree.
Sorry, I meant kicking off the "official" release process...
using shorthand terminology between projects isn't advised :)
>
>> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
>> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>
> I had provided my Linux builds for earlier testing and they worked. But let's consolidate: so I will retire mine and start using your builds as soon as you make them available in all languages. I will still be available as a backup in case we need Linux builds, but it is easier (for upload) if the Release Manager builds as much as possible on his own infrastructure.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 24/05/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
> release manager :)
OK, perfect!
> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
> latest.
I don't think next week is realistic, since the process takes longer.
Still, if the idea is to get 4.1.4 out as soon as (realistically)
possible, then I totally agree.
> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
I had provided my Linux builds for earlier testing and they worked. But
let's consolidate: so I will retire mine and start using your builds as
soon as you make them available in all languages. I will still be
available as a backup in case we need Linux builds, but it is easier
(for upload) if the Release Manager builds as much as possible on his
own infrastructure.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Jorg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]
> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
> release manager :)
> [...]
> Comments? Feedback?
I am ready for the translation of the release notes into German.
We should remember to take care in time to the organization (creation and
translation) of the press release.
greetings,
Jorg
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Good to know...
Time to update the Release Schedule on cWiki? ;-)
Regards, Matthias
Am 24.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 24.05.2017 um 14:06 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
>> release manager :)
>
> yes, you are. There was no vote or other formal process. Just a
> proposal and nobody objected. So, sometimes it comes fast and easy. :-)
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
>> latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
>> 4.1.4. As such, HEAD of
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
>> represents what will turn into the likely release.
>>
>> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
>> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>>
>> Comments? Feedback?
>>
>>> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher
>>> <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim
>>>
>>> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>>>
>>>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>>>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>>>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>>>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>>>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>>>
>>> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not
>>> really a blocker.
>>>
>>> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>>>
>>> Regards, Raphael
>
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 24.05.2017 um 14:06 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
> release manager :)
yes, you are. There was no vote or other formal process. Just a proposal
and nobody objected. So, sometimes it comes fast and easy. :-)
Marcus
> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
> latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
> 4.1.4. As such, HEAD of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
> represents what will turn into the likely release.
>
> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>
> Comments? Feedback?
>
>> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>>
>>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>>
>> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not really a blocker.
>>
>> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>>
>> Regards, Raphael
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
That was the link I was looking for! ;-)
Will try the ones from 4.1.2 in my next build.
Regards, Matthias
Am 25.05.2017 um 08:57 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> On 24/05/2017 Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> As I said before, these are most likely not the official build options,
>> but they work (for me).
>
> Release options are here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/
>
> The ones from 4.1.2 are correct, the ones from 4.1.3 are not (so
> please base on the 4.1.2 ones).
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 24/05/2017 Matthias Seidel wrote:
> As I said before, these are most likely not the official build options,
> but they work (for me).
Release options are here:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/
The ones from 4.1.2 are correct, the ones from 4.1.3 are not (so please
base on the 4.1.2 ones).
Regards,
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Raphael,
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.9" \
--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~1/Java/JDK17~1.0_8" \
--with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
--with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~1/MICROS~1.0/VC" \
--with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~1/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin" \
--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"
\
--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz"
\
--with-directx-home="C:/Microsoft_DirectX_SDK_June_2010" \
--disable-nss-module \
--without-junit \
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--enable-category-b \
--with-lang="en-US de pt ja" \
--enable-bundled-dictionaries \
--with-nsis-path="C:/NSIS"
I followed the steps in our Wiki and avoided spaces in the path. The
shortened Windows paths may also differ for your system.
As I said before, these are most likely not the official build options,
but they work (for me).
Regards, Matthias
Am 24.05.2017 um 17:56 schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Hi Matthias
>
> Am .05.2017, 16:21 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel
> <ma...@hamburg.de>:
>
>> Hi Raphael,
>>
>> I did manage to build 4.1.4 (en-US, de, ja, pt) on Windows 7, although I
>> am not sure if I use the correct configure.
>> (Andrea did post a link some time ago, but I am not able to it...)
>>
>> What is PSDK referring to?
> I think, I massed up the installation of the SDK's
>
> Can you post the configuration of your builds?
>
> Regards, Raphael
>
>
Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi Matthias
Am .05.2017, 16:21 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel
<ma...@hamburg.de>:
> Hi Raphael,
>
> I did manage to build 4.1.4 (en-US, de, ja, pt) on Windows 7, although I
> am not sure if I use the correct configure.
> (Andrea did post a link some time ago, but I am not able to it...)
>
> What is PSDK referring to?
I think, I massed up the installation of the SDK's
Can you post the configuration of your builds?
Regards, Raphael
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Raphael,
I did manage to build 4.1.4 (en-US, de, ja, pt) on Windows 7, although I
am not sure if I use the correct configure.
(Andrea did post a link some time ago, but I am not able to it...)
What is PSDK referring to?
Matthias
P.S.: I followed this guide:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
Am 24.05.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Hi All
>
> I have still a fight with the Windows SDK. For some reasons, PSDK is
> not recognized.
>
> Regards, Raphael
>
> Am .05.2017, 14:06 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>
>> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
>> release manager :)
>>
>> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
>> latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
>> 4.1.4. As such, HEAD of
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
>> represents what will turn into the likely release.
>>
>> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
>> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>>
>> Comments? Feedback?
>>
>>> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher
>>> <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim
>>>
>>> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>>>
>>>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>>>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>>>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>>>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>>>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>>>
>>> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not
>>> really a blocker.
>>>
>>> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>>>
>>> Regards, Raphael
>>>
>>>
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi All
I have still a fight with the Windows SDK. For some reasons, PSDK is not
recognized.
Regards, Raphael
Am .05.2017, 14:06 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
> I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
> release manager :)
>
> As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
> latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
> 4.1.4. As such, HEAD of
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
> represents what will turn into the likely release.
>
> I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
> ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
>
> Comments? Feedback?
>
>> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher
>> <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>>
>>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>>
>> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not
>> really a blocker.
>>
>> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>>
>> Regards, Raphael
>>
>>
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the
release manager :)
As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the
latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for
4.1.4. As such, HEAD of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/
represents what will turn into the likely release.
I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit
ones as well (rpm and deb), if required.
Comments? Feedback?
> On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
>
>> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
>> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
>> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
>> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
>> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
>
> I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not really a blocker.
>
> Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
>
> Regards, Raphael
>
>
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Re: Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jim
Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>:
> I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
> release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
> because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
> want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
> be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not
really a blocker.
Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager?
Regards, Raphael
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Status: 4.1.4
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4
release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply
because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't
want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might
be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0.
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Raphael,
I am not sure if you forgot to write something? ;-)
Matthias
Am 20.05.2017 um 20:52 schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Am .05.2017, 12:30 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel
> <ma...@hamburg.de>:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> That is alright with me...
>>
>> ...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-)
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>>
>> Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> My plan is to hold off on accepting this...
>>>
>>>> On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>>>>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should
>>>>> see the
>>>>> new logo!
>>>> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
>>>> - splash screen
>>>> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only -
>>>> hm, let's say - 1,5 sec.
>>>>
>>>> - About dialog
>>>> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
>>>> OpenOffice.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most
>>>> users will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he
>>>> is accepting this as a blocker.
>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>>>> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in
>>>> general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between
>>>> code and non-code.
>>>>
>>>> Paranoia? Maybe.
>>>> Experience? Yes.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we
>>>>>>> should also
>>>>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About
>>>>>>> Dialog. But
>>>>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to
>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>> such things or not...
>>>>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>>>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2 ct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Am .05.2017, 12:30 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel
<ma...@hamburg.de>:
> Hi Jim,
>
> That is alright with me...
>
> ...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-)
>
> Regards, Matthias
>
>
> Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> My plan is to hold off on accepting this...
>>
>>> On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>>>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>>>
>>>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see
>>>> the
>>>> new logo!
>>> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
>>> - splash screen
>>> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
>>> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>>>
>>> - About dialog
>>> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
>>> OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
>>> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>>>
>>> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
>>> accepting this as a blocker.
>>>
>>>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>>> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in
>>> general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between
>>> code and non-code.
>>>
>>> Paranoia? Maybe.
>>> Experience? Yes.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About
>>>>>> Dialog. But
>>>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to
>>>>>> include
>>>>>> such things or not...
>>>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 ct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Jim,
That is alright with me...
...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-)
Regards, Matthias
Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> My plan is to hold off on accepting this...
>
>> On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>>
>>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>>> new logo!
>> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
>> - splash screen
>> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm, let's say - 1,5 sec.
>>
>> - About dialog
>> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
>> OpenOffice.
>>
>> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>>
>> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is accepting this as a blocker.
>>
>>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and non-code.
>>
>> Paranoia? Maybe.
>> Experience? Yes.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
>>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>>> such things or not...
>>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 ct.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
My plan is to hold off on accepting this...
> On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
>
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm, let's say - 1,5 sec.
>
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
>
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is accepting this as a blocker.
>
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and non-code.
>
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>> such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>
>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Obviously nobody looks at the splash screen, since the wrong URL has
been there for about 4 years now... ;-)
(When the splash screen was redesigned, the same URL was put in it again)
So I think now it is time for a change and to close this bug.
The ASF logos are also visible during installation on Windows (I can't
verify for macOS, but those graphics have also been updated).
I (and hopefully others) tested the Windows build for several month now.
In fact I am using 4.1.4 on a daily base at work.
For testing the Intro/About I simply copied the new graphics over the
existing ones in OpenOffice/program folder.
So from my POV the risk is minimal to non-existent.
Matthias
Am 03.05.2017 um 20:36 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
>
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
>
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
> accepting this as a blocker.
>
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in
> general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between
> code and non-code.
>
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should
>>>> also
>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About
>>>> Dialog. But
>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>> such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Just out of curiosity, I built the 4.1.4 branch locally with the updated
graphics for Windows.
First step was en-US and de. Later I will add pt and jp.
As expected there were no building problems, installation went fine and
functionality is normal.
Regards, Matthias
Am 03.05.2017 um 23:17 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 5/3/2017 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>>
>>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>>> new logo!
>> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
>> - splash screen
>> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
>> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>>
>> - About dialog
>> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
>> OpenOffice.
>>
>> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
>> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>>
>> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
>> accepting this as a blocker.
>>
>>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
>> when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
>> non-code.
>>
>> Paranoia? Maybe.
>> Experience? Yes.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
> I have to agree with Marcus on this one. Our Version Number Assignment
> as defined at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases is
> <major>.<minor>.<micro>. A <micro>release is defined as "only selected
> bug fixes and most often only critical ones. This
> includes any potential security issues."
>
> To me updating a couple of graphics that most users are not going to
> notice anyway does not rise to the threshold of a critical issue. Does
> it need to be done; absolutely. However given the fragility of our build
> system adding another potential failure point to a release that has
> already taken far longer then predicted is a risk that does not need to
> be taken.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>>
>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog.
>>>>> But
>>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>>> such things or not...
>>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 ct.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>
Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
OK, let's keep this update small and simple.
I can "patch" those 2 graphics easily myself... ;-)
Matthias
Am 03.05.2017 um 23:17 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 5/3/2017 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>>
>>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>>> new logo!
>> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
>> - splash screen
>> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
>> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>>
>> - About dialog
>> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
>> OpenOffice.
>>
>> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
>> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>>
>> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
>> accepting this as a blocker.
>>
>>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
>> when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
>> non-code.
>>
>> Paranoia? Maybe.
>> Experience? Yes.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
> I have to agree with Marcus on this one. Our Version Number Assignment
> as defined at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases is
> <major>.<minor>.<micro>. A <micro>release is defined as "only selected
> bug fixes and most often only critical ones. This
> includes any potential security issues."
>
> To me updating a couple of graphics that most users are not going to
> notice anyway does not rise to the threshold of a critical issue. Does
> it need to be done; absolutely. However given the fragility of our build
> system adding another potential failure point to a release that has
> already taken far longer then predicted is a risk that does not need to
> be taken.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>>
>>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog.
>>>>> But
>>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>>> such things or not...
>>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 ct.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>
Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 5/3/2017 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
>
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
>
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
> accepting this as a blocker.
>
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
> when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
> non-code.
>
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
>
> Marcus
>
I have to agree with Marcus on this one. Our Version Number Assignment
as defined at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases is
<major>.<minor>.<micro>. A <micro>release is defined as "only selected
bug fixes and most often only critical ones. This
includes any potential security issues."
To me updating a couple of graphics that most users are not going to
notice anyway does not rise to the threshold of a critical issue. Does
it need to be done; absolutely. However given the fragility of our build
system adding another potential failure point to a release that has
already taken far longer then predicted is a risk that does not need to
be taken.
Regards
Keith
>
>
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog.
>>>> But
>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>> such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus
Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>
> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
> new logo!
the logos are visible just at 2 places:
- splash screen
--> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
let's say - 1,5 sec.
- About dialog
--> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
OpenOffice.
I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
will notice this graphical change. ;-)
However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
accepting this as a blocker.
> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
non-code.
Paranoia? Maybe.
Experience? Yes.
Marcus
> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>> such things or not...
>>
>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>
>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>
>> My 2 ct.
>>
>> Marcus
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
"broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
new logo!
Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
Matthias
Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>> <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>
>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>> such things or not...
>
> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>
> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>
> My 2 ct.
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>
> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
> such things or not...
correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for a
bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
My 2 ct.
Marcus
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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Raphael,
>>
>> Thank you for your effort!
>> Hopefully Ariel will still be able to assist, but it is really time for a 4.1.4 RC.
>>
>> May I suggest that these "release blocker" should also be merged:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253
>> (Update the banners with the new ASF Logo)
> +1: It would be nice to have a complete list of changes required to
> backport from trunk though. Matthias if you want to go ahead and
> handle this, +1 from me.
If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
such things or not...
First all commits for the Windows/macOS installer (including the initial
commit from Raphael):
r1774839
r1782101
r1782134
r1782198
r1782401
r1782502
r1783420
r1783943
r1784016
Now the commits for the setup icons (Windows/macOS):
r1791897
r1792733
Finally the commit for the Intro-Screen/About-Dialog:
r1791815
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127176#c24
>> (Java not recognized after update to AOO 4.1.3)
> REOPENED.
>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127341
>> (Update bundled dictionaries for AOO 4.1.4 release)
>>
> +1 as well...
>
> r1784925 r1784961 r1785175 r1793216
>
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