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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de> on 2005/08/28 15:59:21 UTC
A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Hi,
since June 9th, maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.1 is the most current release of
the xdoc plugin. Ever since then, maven sites with things like
"???template.mail_lists.section.title???" pop up. Even on the maven
plugin site itself (see e.g. at the simian plugin at
http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/simian/mail-lists.html).
The problem has been identified and is fixed on the trunk since June
21st. This is a showstopper bug for everyone wanting to built sites on
non-Windows platforms and it would have (IMHO) warranted an immediate
release of 1.9.2 over 1.9.1 with just this bug fixed.
However, nothing has happened since for more than two months. The only
advice (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPXDOC-148#action_41816) was
"use the current trunk snapshot". Now guess what:
--- cut ---
plugin:download-artifact:
[echo] repo is 'http://www.ibiblio.org/maven'
[echo] trying to download http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/maven/plugins/maven-xdoc-plugin-SNAPSHOT.jar
BUILD FAILED
File...... /home/henning/.maven/cache/maven-plugin-plugin-1.6/plugin.jelly
Element... ant:fail
Line...... 290
Column.... 52
Unable to find plug-in
Total time: 7 seconds
Finished at: Sun Aug 28 15:58:15 CEST 2005
--- cut ---
Great advice. Not.
This is a plea for an immediate release of maven-xdoc-plugin
1.9.2. I'd ask the developers (mainly Arnaud since he is listed as
project lead) to start a voting cycle to release this plugin. The
current state is more than hurting for building maven sites.
Regards
Henning
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Lukas Theussl <tr...@triumf.ca>.
>However, a polite request in June would be more helpful than this
>message which I find rather abrasive.
>
>
In Henning's defence: he did already post a (polite) request (
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=turbine-maven-dev&m=112316469012033&w=2
) which remained unanswered. Anyway, I think we could put out 1.9.2
mainly as a bug fix release for i18n issues (ASAP) and push other issues
for a later release.
Lukas
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RE: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
Hi Henning,
I'm sorry but I didn't see your mail (mixed with all issues).
Like a lot of committers I have a day job (not maven related), a familly and I receive hundreds mails each day.
As Brett told it, the xdoc plugin is certainly the more difficult plugin to maintain and actually the number of active committers
on m1 isn't really high (Welcome Lukas ;-D ).
I try to fix as much issues as possible in plugins (and recently in core) and I try to provide snapshot between releases to
retreive users feedback.
I'm sorry for your frustration but I can't send to you some antidepressant. In exchange, we'll try to provide as soon as possible
a bug fix release for the xdoc plugin.
And the next time, you can send us a mail on the dev list (every day if you want) or join us on the channel #maven @
irc.codehaus.org. We'll try to be more careful !
Cheers,
Arnaud, Always happy to make somebody's day !
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org]
> Envoyé : lundi 29 août 2005 07:27
> À : Maven Developers List
> Objet : Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
>
> Lukas Theussl wrote:
>
> >
> > Woops, seems I'm getting quite a share of high expectations and
> > pressure right on my first day of work ... at least I know now why
> > I've been hired ;-) .
> >
> > But yes, sure we'll get it fixed.
> >
> :)
>
> I just noticed that you started going through issues. Thanks
> - it is much appreciated.
>
> Looks like we can fix the jakarta commons problem I had been
> hoping to look and then cut the release.
>
> - Brett
>
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Lukas Theussl wrote:
>
> Woops, seems I'm getting quite a share of high expectations and
> pressure right on my first day of work ... at least I know now why
> I've been hired ;-) .
>
> But yes, sure we'll get it fixed.
>
:)
I just noticed that you started going through issues. Thanks - it is
much appreciated.
Looks like we can fix the jakarta commons problem I had been hoping to
look and then cut the release.
- Brett
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Lukas Theussl <tr...@triumf.ca>.
> We'll get it fixed. Thanks to our recently elected committer
>Lukas, it seems we have someone looking after getting xdoc back under
>control.
>
>
>
Woops, seems I'm getting quite a share of high expectations and pressure
right on my first day of work ... at least I know now why I've been
hired ;-) .
But yes, sure we'll get it fixed.
Lukas
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>It's ok. I vented some steam and I apologize. I didn't open another
>issue because there was already one opened in June (MPXDOC-148) and
>closed by Arnaud on Jun 28th. But after the bug was closed, nothing
>happened. Shall we reopen the issues until something happens? That
>wouldn't make much sense, would it?
>
>
No, prodding the list is right. And as Lukas pointed out, you did that
politely the first time. I missed that.
>There are currently 57 open issues with xdoc. There are similar
>numbers open with other plugins. It is obvious that you guys are
>drowning in bug reports.
>
>
Xdoc is by far the worst in terms of "bugs". It is getting all the
attention it could because the next step forward is now really to
incorporate the m2 site mechanism into it instead so we have one
platform to take forward.
Other plugins are either designated to be mothballed, under control, or
laden with feature requests that we are also holding off until m2
plugins can be reincorporated. We've discussed this here before.
>>You're missing -Dmaven.repo.remote=http://cvs.apache.org/repository/
>>
>>
>
>Do I? I followed the advice in the issue report. That is exactly the
>point. Most people don't have the time to find all the necessary,
>relevant information to get stuff running. I followed advice from one
>of the plugin developers. It did not work. I was frustrated. End of
>story.
>
>
Usually it is posted along side the info to use a snapshot. Again, this
is not meant to be recommended long term advice, but for testing purposes.
>I'm test-driving maven 1.1 for a number of projects (to have less
>nasty surprises once 1.1 will leave beta status). That requires 1.9
>AFAIK. No luck here.
>
>
It doesn't actually require it, but I understand that you want to use
i18n. We'll get it fixed. Thanks to our recently elected committer
Lukas, it seems we have someone looking after getting xdoc back under
control.
- Brett
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> writes:
>However, a polite request in June would be more helpful than this
>message which I find rather abrasive.
It's ok. I vented some steam and I apologize. I didn't open another
issue because there was already one opened in June (MPXDOC-148) and
closed by Arnaud on Jun 28th. But after the bug was closed, nothing
happened. Shall we reopen the issues until something happens? That
wouldn't make much sense, would it?
There are currently 57 open issues with xdoc. There are similar
numbers open with other plugins. It is obvious that you guys are
drowning in bug reports.
>>However, nothing has happened since for more than two months. The only
>>advice (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPXDOC-148#action_41816) was
>>"use the current trunk snapshot". Now guess what:
>>
>>
>You're missing -Dmaven.repo.remote=http://cvs.apache.org/repository/
Do I? I followed the advice in the issue report. That is exactly the
point. Most people don't have the time to find all the necessary,
relevant information to get stuff running. I followed advice from one
of the plugin developers. It did not work. I was frustrated. End of
story.
>In the mean time:
>maven plugin:download -DgroupId=maven -DartifactId=maven-xdoc-plugin
>-Dversion=1.8
>If you had no specific reason to upgrade in the first place, this is
>obviously the more sensible approach. But we'll get the release together
>as soon as possible.
I'm test-driving maven 1.1 for a number of projects (to have less
nasty surprises once 1.1 will leave beta status). That requires 1.9
AFAIK. No luck here.
Of course I had a specific reason for maven 1.0.2, too. I'm running a
few projects where I need i18n. Following your advice means, that
either these projects break on me (because of 1.8) or other projects
break on me (because of 1.9.1). Lately I started to hard code plugin
versions in my POMs as a result of this. Which is IMHO not really the
way to go with maven.
So can we please have a 1.9.2 release?
Regards
Henning
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Re: A plea to release maven-xdoc-plugin 1.9.2
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Firstly, I agree that a release should be made ASAP given this.
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>The problem has been identified and is fixed on the trunk since June
>21st. This is a showstopper bug for everyone wanting to built sites on
>non-Windows platforms and it would have (IMHO) warranted an immediate
>release of 1.9.2 over 1.9.1 with just this bug fixed.
>
>
It was pushed out as a SNAPSHOT for testing and probably not followed
up. Stuff slips through the cracks. It happens.
However, a polite request in June would be more helpful than this
message which I find rather abrasive.
>However, nothing has happened since for more than two months. The only
>advice (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPXDOC-148#action_41816) was
>"use the current trunk snapshot". Now guess what:
>
>
You're missing -Dmaven.repo.remote=http://cvs.apache.org/repository/
>Great advice. Not.
>
>
This is not helpful. I'm all for constructive criticism and getting
called on mistakes made. But this along with others just sets a negative
tone for the email.
>This is a plea for an immediate release of maven-xdoc-plugin
>1.9.2. I'd ask the developers (mainly Arnaud since he is listed as
>project lead) to start a voting cycle to release this plugin. The
>current state is more than hurting for building maven sites.
>
>
In the mean time:
maven plugin:download -DgroupId=maven -DartifactId=maven-xdoc-plugin
-Dversion=1.8
If you had no specific reason to upgrade in the first place, this is
obviously the more sensible approach. But we'll get the release together
as soon as possible.
- Brett
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