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Separate convenience binaries
Hi all,
Could we consider producing separate convenience binaries, as before, i.e.,
‘all’, ‘java’, and ‘web’ (with web being php and html5).
Once Java/Jakarta EE is included, we’d have another one (called jakarta,
maybe), and another fir C/C++.
And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
I’ve seen questions around for this already and that will only increase.
Gj
Re: Separate convenience binaries
Posted by Jaroslav Tulach <ja...@gmail.com>.
Dne neděle 20. ledna 2019 13:13:49 CET, Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
Reconsider:
Java benefits from ergonomics to download nbjavac. So does webcommon right
now.
-jt
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Re: Separate convenience binaries
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Well, my starting point here is PHP/HTML5 users -- I've seen some requests,
and can imagine more, from these kinds of developers who want an IDE that
contains no projects or anything at all that relate to Java. All they want
to see is wizards, dialogs, etc, that relate to frontend development.
And, ultimately, we could think about an ultra light editor simply for
JavaScript and HTML and CSS, which could of course be extended, but
essentially as a way to provide an alternative editor to Sublime, Atom, etc.
These are two separate points, though.
Gj
On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 3:53 PM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm curious what made you say this. Is it the download size or something
> else?
>
> Personally I'm finding the ergonomics module interesting as a
> technique but un-ergonomic for end-users. I'm not entirely certain
> it's even clear the modules are 'local'.
>
> And folks using the IDE for PHP are highly unlikely to use the IDE for
> C/C++.
>
> What this complicates is only the download page. Having a matrix looks
> odd for users. I guess this might explain why IntelliJ has different
> sub-brands (PHPStorm, etc).
>
> --emi
>
> http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Could we consider producing separate convenience binaries, as before,
> i.e.,
> > ‘all’, ‘java’, and ‘web’ (with web being php and html5).
> >
> > Once Java/Jakarta EE is included, we’d have another one (called jakarta,
> > maybe), and another fir C/C++.
> >
> > And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
> >
> > I’ve seen questions around for this already and that will only increase.
> >
> > Gj
>
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Re: Separate convenience binaries
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.
I'm curious what made you say this. Is it the download size or something else?
Personally I'm finding the ergonomics module interesting as a
technique but un-ergonomic for end-users. I'm not entirely certain
it's even clear the modules are 'local'.
And folks using the IDE for PHP are highly unlikely to use the IDE for C/C++.
What this complicates is only the download page. Having a matrix looks
odd for users. I guess this might explain why IntelliJ has different
sub-brands (PHPStorm, etc).
--emi
http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Could we consider producing separate convenience binaries, as before, i.e.,
> ‘all’, ‘java’, and ‘web’ (with web being php and html5).
>
> Once Java/Jakarta EE is included, we’d have another one (called jakarta,
> maybe), and another fir C/C++.
>
> And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
>
> I’ve seen questions around for this already and that will only increase.
>
> Gj
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Re: Separate convenience binaries
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
+1
-Sven
Am So., 20. Jan. 2019, 13:13 hat Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> geschrieben:
> Hi all,
>
> Could we consider producing separate convenience binaries, as before, i.e.,
> ‘all’, ‘java’, and ‘web’ (with web being php and html5).
>
> Once Java/Jakarta EE is included, we’d have another one (called jakarta,
> maybe), and another fir C/C++.
>
> And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
>
> I’ve seen questions around for this already and that will only increase.
>
> Gj
>
Re: Separate convenience binaries
Posted by Vincenzo Luongo <lu...@gmail.com>.
+1
Il giorno dom 20 gen 2019, 13:13 Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> Could we consider producing separate convenience binaries, as before, i.e.,
> ‘all’, ‘java’, and ‘web’ (with web being php and html5).
>
> Once Java/Jakarta EE is included, we’d have another one (called jakarta,
> maybe), and another fir C/C++.
>
> And only ‘all’ would include ergonomics.
>
> I’ve seen questions around for this already and that will only increase.
>
> Gj
>