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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com> on 2013/06/03 16:37:37 UTC
new room design
Maxim, folks,
Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
can be enlarged.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
RE: new room design
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Maybe this design would be good for a chat only room ? (a room without a whiteboard?)
Our needs have been for the Whiteboard to be as large as possible. We minimise both chat window and the User’s window, and then turn IE into full screen, all to get maximum sized Whiteboard for displaying documents or powerpoint presentations. For us it would be good to have a full screen whiteboard mode, do you think this would be possible?
Most, but not all of our screens are now 16x9 while PowerPoint and documents are more 4x3 or A4 sized. So having maximum height available for the Whiteboard is very important.
Hope this helps your design ideas.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013 12:53 AM
To: Openmeetings user-list
Cc: dev; mortesov@mail.ru
Subject: Re: new room design
it is nice,
the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
Maxim, folks,
Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture can be enlarged.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
just change your "meeting" room option (via Administrator->Conference Rooms)
And chat panel will be opened by default!
it was implemented in 2.1 (or 2.0 not sure)
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
>
> Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
> panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
>
> BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
> > opened by default" room option.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> >> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
> >> help.
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> >> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
> function
> >> :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
> >> >> stand,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >> >>
> >> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
> should
> >> >> be simplified.
> >> >> --
> >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and
> will
> >> >> only
> >> >> > be chatting :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> akhor666@gmail.com
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
> >> whitebord,
> >> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
> user to
> >> >> close
> >> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants
> of
> >> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
> default
> >> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> >> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
> >> simple
> >> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> >> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on
> the
> >> top
> >> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
> >> what do
> >> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
> window
> >> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
> whiteboard
> >> to
> >> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
> implement
> >> this
> >> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
> should
> >> we
> >> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >> >> > >wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do
> >> you
> >> >> >> think?
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway.
> >> The
> >> >> >> > picture
> >> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> > > WBR
> >> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > WBR
> >> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Re[4]: new room design
Posted by Artyom Horuzhenko <ak...@gmail.com>.
See http://openmeetings.apache.org/mail-lists.html
2013/6/6 Mohammed Subhi Sheikh Quroush <fo...@hotmail.com>
> How can I unsubscribe
>
> > From: bay73@mail.ru
> > To: solomax666@gmail.com
> > CC: dev@openmeetings.apache.org
> > Subject: Re[4]: new room design
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:21:06 +0400
> >
> >
> > Hi Maxim,
> >
> > When I started this I didn't think about OpenMeetings whiteboard. It
> wasn't even whiteboard - it was a tool for ruler-and-compass constructions.
> I didn't need advanced drawing - only lines and circles.
> > Closure promises to support svg as well as convas and chooses one of
> them according to browser support - now whiteboard works even at my old
> Android 2.X with default browser.
> > Also closure has all what I need - a lot of advanced components such as
> menus, tooltips, color pallet and so on. It has compiling toool which allow
> to take all required components to one js-file.
> > On the last one motif was - to have more "close knowledge" about
> closure. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrey Bogdanov
> >
> >
> >
> > Среда, 5 июня 2013, 6:14 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>:
> > >Hello Andrey,
> > >
> > >Thanks for the answer!
> > >Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I
> had plan to use http://raphaeljs.com/ .
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey < bay73@mail.ru >
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it.
> > >>
> > >>For whiteboard I used google closure library.
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Andrey Bogdanov
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com >:
> > >>>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
> > >>>I get no answer :(
> > >>>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
> > >>>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything
> "from
> > >>>scratch"
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
> > >>>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
> > >>>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators
> (like
> > >>>> > currently in dashboard widgets)
> > >>>> > I don't know.
> > >>>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
> > >>>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we
> can
> > >>>> > discuss with no rush
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > >>>> >wrote:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by
> default
> > >>>> as
> > >>>> >> well?
> > >>>> >> --
> > >>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> > >>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For
> returning
> > >>>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to
> the chat
> > >>>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has
> these
> > >>>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during
> conferences?
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > --
> > >>>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > >>>> solomax666@gmail.com >
> > >>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using
> "Chat
> > >>>> panel
> > >>>> >> >> opened by default" room option.
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at
> the
> > >>>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can
> get some
> > >>>> >> >>> help.
> > >>>> >> >>> --
> > >>>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >> >>>
> > >>>> >> >>>
> > >>>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > >>>> solomax666@gmail.com
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> > >>>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it
> should
> > >>>> >> function
> > >>>> >> >>> :)
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > >>>> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the
> argument does
> > >>>> >> not
> > >>>> >> >>> >> stand,
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that
> interface
> > >>>> >> should
> > >>>> >> >>> >> be simplified.
> > >>>> >> >>> >> --
> > >>>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > >>>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the
> whiteboard
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> >> will
> > >>>> >> >>> >> only
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> > >>>> >> akhor666@gmail.com
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements
> (such as
> > >>>> >> >>> whitebord,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse
> and allow
> > >>>> >> user to
> > >>>> >> >>> >> close
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements
> many
> > >>>> >> variants of
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by
> plugins.
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room
> screen by
> > >>>> >> default
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
> > >>>> design is
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
> > >>>> relatively
> > >>>> >> >>> simple
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard,
> they
> > >>>> click
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may
> appear
> > >>>> on
> > >>>> >> the
> > >>>> >> >>> top
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely
> different
> > >>>> from
> > >>>> >> >>> what do
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have
> a chat
> > >>>> >> window
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for
> mathematical
> > >>>> >> whiteboard
> > >>>> >> >>> to
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth
> to
> > >>>> >> implement
> > >>>> >> >>> this
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate
> whiteboard", or
> > >>>> >> should
> > >>>> >> >>> we
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > --
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > >>>> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard
> :(
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room
> design.
> > >>>> What
> > >>>> >> do
> > >>>> >> >>> you
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> think?
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter
> anything
> > >>>> >> anyway.
> > >>>> >> >>> The
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > picture
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > --
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > --
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > WBR
> > >>>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>> >> >>> >>
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> >
> > >>>> >> >>> > --
> > >>>> >> >>> > WBR
> > >>>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>> >> >>>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> --
> > >>>> >> >> WBR
> > >>>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > --
> > >>>> > WBR
> > >>>> > Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>WBR
> > >>>Maxim aka solomax
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Андрей Богданов
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >WBR
> > >Maxim aka solomax
> >
> >
> > --
> > Андрей Богданов
>
>
RE: Re[4]: new room design
Posted by Mohammed Subhi Sheikh Quroush <fo...@hotmail.com>.
How can I unsubscribe
> From: bay73@mail.ru
> To: solomax666@gmail.com
> CC: dev@openmeetings.apache.org
> Subject: Re[4]: new room design
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:21:06 +0400
>
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> When I started this I didn't think about OpenMeetings whiteboard. It wasn't even whiteboard - it was a tool for ruler-and-compass constructions. I didn't need advanced drawing - only lines and circles.
> Closure promises to support svg as well as convas and chooses one of them according to browser support - now whiteboard works even at my old Android 2.X with default browser.
> Also closure has all what I need - a lot of advanced components such as menus, tooltips, color pallet and so on. It has compiling toool which allow to take all required components to one js-file.
> On the last one motif was - to have more "close knowledge" about closure. :)
>
> Regards,
> Andrey Bogdanov
>
>
>
> Среда, 5 июня 2013, 6:14 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> >Hello Andrey,
> >
> >Thanks for the answer!
> >Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I had plan to use http://raphaeljs.com/ .
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey < bay73@mail.ru > wrote:
> >>
> >>I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it.
> >>
> >>For whiteboard I used google closure library.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Andrey Bogdanov
> >>
> >>
> >>Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com >:
> >>>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
> >>>I get no answer :(
> >>>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
> >>>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from
> >>>scratch"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
> >>>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
> >>>> --
> >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
> >>>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
> >>>> > currently in dashboard widgets)
> >>>> > I don't know.
> >>>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
> >>>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
> >>>> > discuss with no rush
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >>>> >wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default
> >>>> as
> >>>> >> well?
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> >>>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
> >>>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> >>>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > --
> >>>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >>>> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat
> >>>> panel
> >>>> >> >> opened by default" room option.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> >>>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
> >>>> >> >>> help.
> >>>> >> >>> --
> >>>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >>>> solomax666@gmail.com
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> >>>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
> >>>> >> function
> >>>> >> >>> :)
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >>>> >> >>> >wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
> >>>> >> not
> >>>> >> >>> >> stand,
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
> >>>> >> should
> >>>> >> >>> >> be simplified.
> >>>> >> >>> >> --
> >>>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >>>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >>>> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >>>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> will
> >>>> >> >>> >> only
> >>>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> >>>> >> akhor666@gmail.com
> >>>> >> >>> >> >wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
> >>>> >> >>> whitebord,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
> >>>> >> user to
> >>>> >> >>> >> close
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
> >>>> >> variants of
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
> >>>> >> default
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
> >>>> design is
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
> >>>> relatively
> >>>> >> >>> simple
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they
> >>>> click
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear
> >>>> on
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> >>> top
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different
> >>>> from
> >>>> >> >>> what do
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
> >>>> >> window
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
> >>>> >> whiteboard
> >>>> >> >>> to
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
> >>>> >> implement
> >>>> >> >>> this
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
> >>>> >> should
> >>>> >> >>> we
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > --
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >>>> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design.
> >>>> What
> >>>> >> do
> >>>> >> >>> you
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> think?
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
> >>>> >> anyway.
> >>>> >> >>> The
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > picture
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > --
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> >
> >>>> >> >>> >> > --
> >>>> >> >>> >> > WBR
> >>>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>>> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> >
> >>>> >> >>> > --
> >>>> >> >>> > WBR
> >>>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> --
> >>>> >> >> WBR
> >>>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > WBR
> >>>> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>WBR
> >>>Maxim aka solomax
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Андрей Богданов
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >WBR
> >Maxim aka solomax
>
>
> --
> Андрей Богданов
Re[4]: new room design
Posted by Bogdanov Andrey <ba...@mail.ru>.
Hi Maxim,
When I started this I didn't think about OpenMeetings whiteboard. It wasn't even whiteboard - it was a tool for ruler-and-compass constructions. I didn't need advanced drawing - only lines and circles.
Closure promises to support svg as well as convas and chooses one of them according to browser support - now whiteboard works even at my old Android 2.X with default browser.
Also closure has all what I need - a lot of advanced components such as menus, tooltips, color pallet and so on. It has compiling toool which allow to take all required components to one js-file.
On the last one motif was - to have more "close knowledge" about closure. :)
Regards,
Andrey Bogdanov
Среда, 5 июня 2013, 6:14 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>Hello Andrey,
>
>Thanks for the answer!
>Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I had plan to use http://raphaeljs.com/ .
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey < bay73@mail.ru > wrote:
>>
>>I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it.
>>
>>For whiteboard I used google closure library.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Andrey Bogdanov
>>
>>
>>Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com >:
>>>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
>>>I get no answer :(
>>>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
>>>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from
>>>scratch"
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
>>>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
>>>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
>>>> > currently in dashboard widgets)
>>>> > I don't know.
>>>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
>>>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
>>>> > discuss with no rush
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default
>>>> as
>>>> >> well?
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
>>>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
>>>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
>>>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat
>>>> panel
>>>> >> >> opened by default" room option.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
>>>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
>>>> >> >>> help.
>>>> >> >>> --
>>>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
>>>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
>>>> >> function
>>>> >> >>> :)
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>>>> >> >>> >wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> >>> >> stand,
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> >>> >> be simplified.
>>>> >> >>> >> --
>>>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
>>>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>>>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard
>>>> and
>>>> >> will
>>>> >> >>> >> only
>>>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
>>>> >> akhor666@gmail.com
>>>> >> >>> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
>>>> >> >>> whitebord,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
>>>> >> user to
>>>> >> >>> >> close
>>>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
>>>> >> variants of
>>>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
>>>> >> default
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
>>>> design is
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
>>>> relatively
>>>> >> >>> simple
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they
>>>> click
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear
>>>> on
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >>> top
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different
>>>> from
>>>> >> >>> what do
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
>>>> >> window
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
>>>> >> whiteboard
>>>> >> >>> to
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
>>>> >> implement
>>>> >> >>> this
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> >>> we
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design.
>>>> What
>>>> >> do
>>>> >> >>> you
>>>> >> >>> >> >> think?
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
>>>> >> anyway.
>>>> >> >>> The
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > picture
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > --
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
>>>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> >> > --
>>>> >> >>> >> > WBR
>>>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > --
>>>> >> >>> > WBR
>>>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> WBR
>>>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > WBR
>>>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>WBR
>>>Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Андрей Богданов
>
>
>
>--
>WBR
>Maxim aka solomax
--
Андрей Богданов
Re: Re[2]: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Andrey,
Thanks for the answer!
Could you please describe a bit why have you choose google closure? I had
plan to use http://raphaeljs.com/ .
Thanks in advance
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Bogdanov Andrey <ba...@mail.ru> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it.
>
> For whiteboard I used google closure library.
>
> Regards,
> Andrey Bogdanov
>
>
> Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>:
> >I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
> >I get no answer :(
> >I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
> >I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from
> >scratch"
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
> >> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
> >> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
> >> > currently in dashboard widgets)
> >> > I don't know.
> >> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
> >> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
> >> > discuss with no rush
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by
> default
> >> as
> >> >> well?
> >> >> --
> >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> >> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the
> chat
> >> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> >> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat
> >> panel
> >> >> >> opened by default" room option.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> >> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get
> some
> >> >> >>> help.
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> solomax666@gmail.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> >> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
> >> >> function
> >> >> >>> :)
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument
> does
> >> >> not
> >> >> >>> >> stand,
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that
> interface
> >> >> should
> >> >> >>> >> be simplified.
> >> >> >>> >> --
> >> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard
> >> and
> >> >> will
> >> >> >>> >> only
> >> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> >> >> akhor666@gmail.com
> >> >> >>> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such
> as
> >> >> >>> whitebord,
> >> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and
> allow
> >> >> user to
> >> >> >>> >> close
> >> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
> >> >> variants of
> >> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by
> plugins.
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen
> by
> >> >> default
> >> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
> >> design is
> >> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
> >> relatively
> >> >> >>> simple
> >> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they
> >> click
> >> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may
> appear
> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> >>> top
> >> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different
> >> from
> >> >> >>> what do
> >> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a
> chat
> >> >> window
> >> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
> >> >> whiteboard
> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
> >> >> implement
> >> >> >>> this
> >> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard",
> or
> >> >> should
> >> >> >>> we
> >> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > --
> >> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design.
> >> What
> >> >> do
> >> >> >>> you
> >> >> >>> >> >> think?
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
> >> >> anyway.
> >> >> >>> The
> >> >> >>> >> >> > picture
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
> >> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >> >>> >> > WBR
> >> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > --
> >> >> >>> > WBR
> >> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> WBR
> >> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >WBR
> >Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
> --
> Андрей Богданов
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re[2]: new room design
Posted by Bogdanov Andrey <ba...@mail.ru>.
I'm sorry but I've possible missed you mail or haven't received it.
For whiteboard I used google closure library.
Regards,
Andrey Bogdanov
Вторник, 4 июня 2013, 22:00 +07:00 от Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
>I get no answer :(
>I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
>I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from
>scratch"
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
>
>> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
>> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666@gmail.com >
>> wrote:
>> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
>> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
>> > currently in dashboard widgets)
>> > I don't know.
>> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
>> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
>> > discuss with no rush
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default
>> as
>> >> well?
>> >> --
>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
>> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
>> >> >
>> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
>> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
>> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
>> >> >
>> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> solomax666@gmail.com >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat
>> panel
>> >> >> opened by default" room option.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
>> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
>> >> >>> help.
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> solomax666@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
>> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
>> >> function
>> >> >>> :)
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
>> >> not
>> >> >>> >> stand,
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
>> >> should
>> >> >>> >> be simplified.
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard
>> and
>> >> will
>> >> >>> >> only
>> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
>> >> akhor666@gmail.com
>> >> >>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
>> >> >>> whitebord,
>> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
>> >> user to
>> >> >>> >> close
>> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
>> >> variants of
>> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedotov@gmail.com >
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
>> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
>> >> default
>> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
>> design is
>> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
>> relatively
>> >> >>> simple
>> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they
>> click
>> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear
>> on
>> >> the
>> >> >>> top
>> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different
>> from
>> >> >>> what do
>> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
>> >> window
>> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
>> >> whiteboard
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
>> >> implement
>> >> >>> this
>> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
>> >> should
>> >> >>> we
>> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > --
>> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com >
>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
>> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design.
>> What
>> >> do
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> >> >> think?
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
>> >> anyway.
>> >> >>> The
>> >> >>> >> >> > picture
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
>> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > --
>> >> >>> >> > WBR
>> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > WBR
>> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> WBR
>> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
>--
>WBR
>Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Андрей Богданов
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I did wrote letter to Andrey with some questions ...
I get no answer :(
I would like to know if he uses any JS framework in his work.
I believe it is better to rely on framework than to write everything "from
scratch"
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
> whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would vote for additional WB tools.
> > Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
> > currently in dashboard widgets)
> > I don't know.
> > I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
> > I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
> > discuss with no rush
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default
> as
> >> well?
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> >> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
> >> >
> >> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
> >> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> >> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
> >> >
> >> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat
> panel
> >> >> opened by default" room option.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> >> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
> >> >>> help.
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> >> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
> >> function
> >> >>> :)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
> >> not
> >> >>> >> stand,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
> >> should
> >> >>> >> be simplified.
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard
> and
> >> will
> >> >>> >> only
> >> >>> >> > be chatting :)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> >> akhor666@gmail.com
> >> >>> >> >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
> >> >>> whitebord,
> >> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
> >> user to
> >> >>> >> close
> >> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
> >> variants of
> >> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
> >> default
> >> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the
> design is
> >> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things
> relatively
> >> >>> simple
> >> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they
> click
> >> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear
> on
> >> the
> >> >>> top
> >> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different
> from
> >> >>> what do
> >> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
> >> whiteboard
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
> >> implement
> >> >>> this
> >> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
> >> should
> >> >>> we
> >> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > --
> >> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design.
> What
> >> do
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> >> >> think?
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
> >> anyway.
> >> >>> The
> >> >>> >> >> > picture
> >> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > --
> >> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > --
> >> >>> >> >> > > WBR
> >> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > WBR
> >> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > WBR
> >> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> WBR
> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Andrey have just said to me that he plans adding mind graphs to his
whiteboard. The main concern is how to coordinate this with Andun.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would vote for additional WB tools.
> Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
> currently in dashboard widgets)
> I don't know.
> I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
> I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
> discuss with no rush
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default as
>> well?
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
>> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
>> >
>> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
>> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
>> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
>> >
>> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > http://dataved.ru/
>> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
>> >> opened by default" room option.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
>> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
>> >>> help.
>> >>> --
>> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>> http://dataved.ru/
>> >>> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
>> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
>> function
>> >>> :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
>> not
>> >>> >> stand,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
>> should
>> >>> >> be simplified.
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and
>> will
>> >>> >> only
>> >>> >> > be chatting :)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
>> akhor666@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
>> >>> whitebord,
>> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
>> user to
>> >>> >> close
>> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
>> variants of
>> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
>> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
>> default
>> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
>> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
>> >>> simple
>> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
>> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on
>> the
>> >>> top
>> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
>> >>> what do
>> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
>> window
>> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
>> whiteboard
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
>> implement
>> >>> this
>> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
>> should
>> >>> we
>> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > --
>> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
>> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What
>> do
>> >>> you
>> >>> >> >> think?
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
>> anyway.
>> >>> The
>> >>> >> >> > picture
>> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > > > --
>> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>> >>> >> >> > > >
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > --
>> >>> >> >> > > WBR
>> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > WBR
>> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > WBR
>> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WBR
>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I would vote for additional WB tools.
Maybe we should think on close/remove some tools for moderators (like
currently in dashboard widgets)
I don't know.
I prefer to finish current tasks then to start thinking on WB
I glad to hear various opinions on this topics since currently we can
discuss with no rush
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default as
> well?
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> > users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
> >
> > Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
> > panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> > arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
> >
> > BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
> >> opened by default" room option.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> >>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
> >>> help.
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> >>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should
> function
> >>> :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does
> not
> >>> >> stand,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface
> should
> >>> >> be simplified.
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >>> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and
> will
> >>> >> only
> >>> >> > be chatting :)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> akhor666@gmail.com
> >>> >> >wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
> >>> whitebord,
> >>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow
> user to
> >>> >> close
> >>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many
> variants of
> >>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by
> default
> >>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> >>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
> >>> simple
> >>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> >>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on
> the
> >>> top
> >>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
> >>> what do
> >>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat
> window
> >>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical
> whiteboard
> >>> to
> >>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to
> implement
> >>> this
> >>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or
> should
> >>> we
> >>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > --
> >>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> > >wrote:
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What
> do
> >>> you
> >>> >> >> think?
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything
> anyway.
> >>> The
> >>> >> >> > picture
> >>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > > > --
> >>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >>> >> >> > > >
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > >
> >>> >> >> > > --
> >>> >> >> > > WBR
> >>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > WBR
> >>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > WBR
> >>> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Good. Do you suggest having both types of whiteboards opened by default as well?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
> users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
>
> Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
> panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
> arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
>
> BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
>> opened by default" room option.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
>>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
>>> help.
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
>>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should function
>>> :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
>>> >> stand,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>>> >>
>>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
>>> >> be simplified.
>>> >> --
>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will
>>> >> only
>>> >> > be chatting :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor666@gmail.com
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
>>> whitebord,
>>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to
>>> >> close
>>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
>>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hello folks,
>>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
>>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
>>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
>>> simple
>>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
>>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the
>>> top
>>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
>>> what do
>>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
>>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard
>>> to
>>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement
>>> this
>>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should
>>> we
>>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > it is nice,
>>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>>> >> >> > >wrote:
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do
>>> you
>>> >> >> think?
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway.
>>> The
>>> >> >> > picture
>>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > > --
>>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > --
>>> >> >> > > WBR
>>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > WBR
>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > WBR
>>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Maxim, new users don't know how to open a chat panel. For returning
users I'm ok to keep the last opened panel open.
Right now I need to draw arrows to attract user attention to the chat
panel, and some people don't see arrows because everyone has these
arrows somewhere on the board, and sometimes out of the screen.
BTW, how often do you personally use whiteboard during conferences?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
> opened by default" room option.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
>> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
>> help.
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > It is only possible for moderator ....
>> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should function
>> :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
>> >> stand,
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>> >>
>> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
>> >> be simplified.
>> >> --
>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will
>> >> only
>> >> > be chatting :)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor666@gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello Alexei,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
>> whitebord,
>> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to
>> >> close
>> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
>> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello folks,
>> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
>> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
>> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
>> simple
>> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
>> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the
>> top
>> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
>> what do
>> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
>> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard
>> to
>> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement
>> this
>> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should
>> we
>> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > it is nice,
>> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >> >> > >wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do
>> you
>> >> >> think?
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway.
>> The
>> >> >> > picture
>> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > --
>> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > WBR
>> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > WBR
>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
you can get chat opened by default in current version using "Chat panel
opened by default" room option.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
> beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
> help.
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It is only possible for moderator ....
> > The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should function
> :)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
> >> stand,
> >>
> >>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
> >>
> >> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
> >> be simplified.
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> >> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will
> >> only
> >> > be chatting :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor666@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello Alexei,
> >> >>
> >> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as
> whitebord,
> >> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to
> >> close
> >> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
> >> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello folks,
> >> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> >> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> >> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively
> simple
> >> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> >> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the
> top
> >> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from
> what do
> >> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> >> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard
> to
> >> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement
> this
> >> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should
> we
> >> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > it is nice,
> >> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> >> > >wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do
> you
> >> >> think?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway.
> The
> >> >> > picture
> >> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > WBR
> >> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
I think open chat is more important than open whiteboard at the
beginning, because most people who have sound problems can get some
help.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is only possible for moderator ....
> The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should function :)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
>> stand,
>>
>> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>>
>> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
>> be simplified.
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
>> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will
>> only
>> > be chatting :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor666@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Alexei,
>> >>
>> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as whitebord,
>> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to
>> close
>> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
>> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello folks,
>> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
>> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
>> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
>> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
>> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
>> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
>> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
>> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Roman, is it correct?
>> >> >
>> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
>> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
>> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
>> >> > merge two boards into one?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > it is nice,
>> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> >> > >wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you
>> >> think?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
>> >> > picture
>> >> > > > can be enlarged.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > WBR
>> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
It is only possible for moderator ....
The interface should be simplified for sure .... but it should function :)
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not
> stand,
>
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
>
> I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
> be simplified.
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> > no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will
> only
> > be chatting :)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor666@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Alexei,
> >>
> >> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as whitebord,
> >> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to
> close
> >> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
> >> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> > Hello folks,
> >> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> >> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> >> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> >> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> >> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> >> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> >> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> >> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >> >
> >> > Roman, is it correct?
> >> >
> >> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> >> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> >> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> >> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> >> > merge two boards into one?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > it is nice,
> >> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Maxim, folks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you
> >> think?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
> >> > picture
> >> > > > can be enlarged.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> >> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > WBR
> >> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Maxim, that's possible to close whiteboard now, the argument does not stand,
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9s70Abay0k/Ua3xVZyANGI/AAAAAAAAFTk/uOGjNiwrNZM/w899-h469-no/noboard.png
I have 5 more arguments, anyway it was your idea that interface should
be simplified.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
> no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will only
> be chatting :)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <ak...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Alexei,
>>
>> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as whitebord,
>> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to close
>> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
>> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > Hello folks,
>> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
>> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
>> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
>> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
>> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
>> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
>> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
>> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>> >
>> > Roman, is it correct?
>> >
>> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
>> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
>> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
>> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
>> > merge two boards into one?
>> >
>> > --
>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > http://dataved.ru/
>> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > it is nice,
>> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Maxim, folks,
>> > > >
>> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you
>> think?
>> > > >
>> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
>> > picture
>> > > > can be enlarged.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > > > http://dataved.ru/
>> > > > +7 916 562 8095
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > WBR
>> > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'm afraid this not going to work like this :(
no teacher will accept if students will close the whiteboard and will only
be chatting :)
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <ak...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello Alexei,
>
> I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as whitebord,
> userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to close
> or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
> whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
>
>
> 2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hello folks,
> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >
> > Roman, is it correct?
> >
> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> > merge two boards into one?
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > it is nice,
> > > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maxim, folks,
> > > >
> > > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you
> think?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
> > picture
> > > > can be enlarged.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > http://dataved.ru/
> > > > +7 916 562 8095
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Artyom Horuzhenko <ak...@gmail.com>.
Hello Alexei,
I think it would be good solution to put UI elements (such as whitebord,
userlist etc) into containers like views in Eclipse and allow user to close
or minimize them. This way will allow us implements many variants of
whiteboard (for example) or add new UI containers by plugins.
2013/6/4 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> Hello folks,
> AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>
> Roman, is it correct?
>
> BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> merge two boards into one?
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > it is nice,
> > the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Maxim, folks,
> > >
> > > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
> picture
> > > can be enlarged.
> > >
> > > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> > >
> > > --
> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > http://dataved.ru/
> > > +7 916 562 8095
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: new room design
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
I like the more modern look of the interface, in general.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> pro for separating "object" whiteboard from the "geometry" one
>
> 1) merging a work of two different people is a challenge;
> 2) geometry whiteboard has a very specific use case;
>
> contra
>
> increasing number of different whiteboards will create more user
> astonishment
> yet learning the special math tools on the generic board may be even
> more difficult
>
>
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> > AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> > contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> > overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> > until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> > somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> > half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> > we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> > opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
> >
> > Roman, is it correct?
> >
> > BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> > implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> > The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> > geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> > merge two boards into one?
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> it is nice,
> >> the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Maxim, folks,
> >> >
> >> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you
> think?
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The
> picture
> >> > can be enlarged.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
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"Creating Bright Futures"
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Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
pro for separating "object" whiteboard from the "geometry" one
1) merging a work of two different people is a challenge;
2) geometry whiteboard has a very specific use case;
contra
increasing number of different whiteboards will create more user astonishment
yet learning the special math tools on the generic board may be even
more difficult
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks,
> AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>
> Roman, is it correct?
>
> BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> merge two boards into one?
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> it is nice,
>> the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Maxim, folks,
>> >
>> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
>> >
>> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
>> > can be enlarged.
>> >
>> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >
>> > --
>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > http://dataved.ru/
>> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
pro for separating "object" whiteboard from the "geometry" one
1) merging a work of two different people is a challenge;
2) geometry whiteboard has a very specific use case;
contra
increasing number of different whiteboards will create more user astonishment
yet learning the special math tools on the generic board may be even
more difficult
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks,
> AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
> contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
> overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
> until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
> somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
> half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
> we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
> opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
>
> Roman, is it correct?
>
> BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
> implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
> The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
> geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
> merge two boards into one?
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> it is nice,
>> the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Maxim, folks,
>> >
>> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
>> >
>> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
>> > can be enlarged.
>> >
>> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>> >
>> > --
>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > http://dataved.ru/
>> > +7 916 562 8095
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello folks,
AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
Roman, is it correct?
BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
merge two boards into one?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> it is nice,
> the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Maxim, folks,
> >
> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
> >
> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> > can be enlarged.
> >
> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello folks,
AFAIU, there is a problem that Openmeetings room screen by default
contains too many interface items. Maxim told me, the design is
overloaded. I believe Roman's idea is to keep things relatively simple
until people want more. If they want a whiteboard, they click
somewhere, and whiteboard appears. I believe it may appear on the top
half of the chat window. This is not completely different from what do
we have now, the main difference is that people have a chat window
opened by default, and whiteboard window collapsed.
Roman, is it correct?
BTW, we get one more interesting idea for mathematical whiteboard to
implement. See http://bay73.github.io/whiteboard/
The question about this whiteboard is, does it worth to implement this
geometry whiteboard as a "special separate whiteboard", or should we
merge two boards into one?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> it is nice,
> the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Maxim, folks,
> >
> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
> >
> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> > can be enlarged.
> >
> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
it is nice,
the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maxim, folks,
>
> Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
>
> Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> can be enlarged.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: new room design
Posted by Artyom Horuzhenko <ak...@gmail.com>.
It's nice, but I can't understand where video windows would be shown.
2013/6/3 Alvaro <zu...@gmail.com>
> Would be good so with whiteboard...
>
> Alvaro
>
>
> ......
>
>
> El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 18:37 +0400, Alexei Fedotov escribió:
> > Maxim, folks,
> >
> > Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
> >
> > Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> > can be enlarged.
> >
> > http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
Re: new room design
Posted by Alvaro <zu...@gmail.com>.
Would be good so with whiteboard...
Alvaro
......
El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 18:37 +0400, Alexei Fedotov escribió:
> Maxim, folks,
>
> Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
>
> Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> can be enlarged.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
Re: new room design
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
it is nice,
the only issue with this design is: no whiteboard :(
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maxim, folks,
>
> Roman has prepared a sketch for the new room design. What do you think?
>
> Sorry for Russian, the text does not matter anything anyway. The picture
> can be enlarged.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/319b01qgi775n/new_ui#95vbbc25oba9ubj
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax