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Posted to dev@lens.apache.org by "amareshwarisr ." <am...@gmail.com> on 2015/05/07 11:24:49 UTC
[DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
Hi all,
Starting this thread to know the current status of lens with respect to
graduation. I'm thinking we should make this discussion leading to one of
the below decisions.
- Lens is ready to graduate. What are the next steps to take?
- Lens is not ready to graduate. What are the next steps the community
wants to focus on for getting ready for graduation?
If you have not already looked at the graduation documents, I would
encourage to go through the docs
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html and
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator,
for making this discussion useful,
After going through the graduation docs, here is what i could gather.
Preparations
- Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
- Ensure suitable names
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for
project name and product names - DONE
- Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> - DONE
- Demonstrate community readiness
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> - We have
questions coming up on dev list and have clarification/usage questions
coming up on user mailing lists. Though the traffic is not huge on user
mailing list.
- Ensure Mentors
<http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor>
and IPMC
<http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29>
have
no remaining issues
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> - I
think there are no issues.
What do others think?
Thanks
Amareshwari
RE: [DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
Posted by Srikanth Sundarrajan <sr...@hotmail.com>.
I feel the project is absolutely ready to graduate. And here is why..
* Managed two successful releases and has been very meticulous and thorough with the release process. Much of this is documented at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/LENS/Licensing+in+Apache+Lens.
* Very easy for new contributors and users to work with and the dev community is very extremely active
* Conducts regular developer and user meetup to evangelize and grow community
* Communication & discussions happen on the mailing list and jira without any exception
* Project has really good benchmark for preparing quarterly reports (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2015)
* Actively inducts new committers and PMC members
Overall, I feel that project has learnt to do things "The Apache Way" during this incubation process and is mature enough to graduate and function independently.
Regards
Srikanth Sundarrajan
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 14:54:49 +0530
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
> From: amareshwari@gmail.com
> To: dev@lens.incubator.apache.org
>
> Hi all,
>
> Starting this thread to know the current status of lens with respect to
> graduation. I'm thinking we should make this discussion leading to one of
> the below decisions.
>
>
> - Lens is ready to graduate. What are the next steps to take?
> - Lens is not ready to graduate. What are the next steps the community
> wants to focus on for getting ready for graduation?
>
> If you have not already looked at the graduation documents, I would
> encourage to go through the docs
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html and
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator,
> for making this discussion useful,
>
> After going through the graduation docs, here is what i could gather.
>
> Preparations
>
> - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
> - Ensure suitable names
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for
> project name and product names - DONE
> - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> - DONE
> - Demonstrate community readiness
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> - We have
> questions coming up on dev list and have clarification/usage questions
> coming up on user mailing lists. Though the traffic is not huge on user
> mailing list.
> - Ensure Mentors
> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor>
> and IPMC
> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29>
> have
> no remaining issues
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> - I
> think there are no issues.
>
>
> What do others think?
>
> Thanks
> Amareshwari
Re: [DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
Posted by Sharad Agarwal <sh...@apache.org>.
Thanks for everyone's comment. we are almost there. I am also expecting
some new contributions and activity in upcoming weeks to help with more
diversity.
I think we should start preparing and start the process in next few weeks.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jakob Homan <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> * All of the items on the Incubator checklist are done:
> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
> * The community has made multiple releases
> * Both JIRA (> 500 issues opened) and the lists are active and welcoming
> * The only minor point is that the PMC is still overwhelmingly
> represented by two organizations. However, there is no requirement
> for some specific number or ratio to be reached in this regard, just
> that the community be healthy. ASF Prez Ross made this point in
> discussions regarding Whimsy: http://bit.ly/PMCDiversity
>
> Overall, Lens has been a model of what an Incubation should be. +1 on
> prepping for graduation.
>
> Note, that while I'm a big fan of Lens, I've not been involved in the
> technical issues the community has been working on, so I wouldn't feel
> right being part of the new PMC (as often happens for Mentors of
> graduating podlings). Hope to become a contributor in the future,
> though.
>
> -Jakob
>
> On 7 May 2015 at 04:31, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > regarding the community and the couple of releases, I would say that
> Lens is
> > ready for graduation.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >
> > On 05/07/2015 11:24 AM, amareshwarisr . wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Starting this thread to know the current status of lens with respect to
> >> graduation. I'm thinking we should make this discussion leading to one
> of
> >> the below decisions.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Lens is ready to graduate. What are the next steps to take?
> >> - Lens is not ready to graduate. What are the next steps the
> community
> >> wants to focus on for getting ready for graduation?
> >>
> >> If you have not already looked at the graduation documents, I would
> >> encourage to go through the docs
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html and
> >>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
> ,
> >> for making this discussion useful,
> >>
> >> After going through the graduation docs, here is what i could gather.
> >>
> >> Preparations
> >>
> >> - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
> >> - Ensure suitable names
> >> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names>
> for
> >> project name and product names - DONE
> >> - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
> >> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> -
> DONE
> >> - Demonstrate community readiness
> >> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> - We
> >> have
> >> questions coming up on dev list and have clarification/usage
> questions
> >> coming up on user mailing lists. Though the traffic is not huge on
> >> user
> >> mailing list.
> >> - Ensure Mentors
> >>
> >> <
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor
> >
> >> and IPMC
> >>
> >> <
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29
> >
> >> have
> >> no remaining issues
> >> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues>
> - I
> >> think there are no issues.
> >>
> >>
> >> What do others think?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Amareshwari
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbonofre@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
Posted by Jakob Homan <jg...@gmail.com>.
* All of the items on the Incubator checklist are done:
https://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
* The community has made multiple releases
* Both JIRA (> 500 issues opened) and the lists are active and welcoming
* The only minor point is that the PMC is still overwhelmingly
represented by two organizations. However, there is no requirement
for some specific number or ratio to be reached in this regard, just
that the community be healthy. ASF Prez Ross made this point in
discussions regarding Whimsy: http://bit.ly/PMCDiversity
Overall, Lens has been a model of what an Incubation should be. +1 on
prepping for graduation.
Note, that while I'm a big fan of Lens, I've not been involved in the
technical issues the community has been working on, so I wouldn't feel
right being part of the new PMC (as often happens for Mentors of
graduating podlings). Hope to become a contributor in the future,
though.
-Jakob
On 7 May 2015 at 04:31, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> regarding the community and the couple of releases, I would say that Lens is
> ready for graduation.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 05/07/2015 11:24 AM, amareshwarisr . wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Starting this thread to know the current status of lens with respect to
>> graduation. I'm thinking we should make this discussion leading to one of
>> the below decisions.
>>
>>
>> - Lens is ready to graduate. What are the next steps to take?
>> - Lens is not ready to graduate. What are the next steps the community
>> wants to focus on for getting ready for graduation?
>>
>> If you have not already looked at the graduation documents, I would
>> encourage to go through the docs
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html and
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator,
>> for making this discussion useful,
>>
>> After going through the graduation docs, here is what i could gather.
>>
>> Preparations
>>
>> - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
>> - Ensure suitable names
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for
>> project name and product names - DONE
>> - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> - DONE
>> - Demonstrate community readiness
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> - We
>> have
>> questions coming up on dev list and have clarification/usage questions
>> coming up on user mailing lists. Though the traffic is not huge on
>> user
>> mailing list.
>> - Ensure Mentors
>>
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor>
>> and IPMC
>>
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29>
>> have
>> no remaining issues
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> - I
>> think there are no issues.
>>
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Amareshwari
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Where is lens with respect to graduation?
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi,
regarding the community and the couple of releases, I would say that
Lens is ready for graduation.
Regards
JB
On 05/07/2015 11:24 AM, amareshwarisr . wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Starting this thread to know the current status of lens with respect to
> graduation. I'm thinking we should make this discussion leading to one of
> the below decisions.
>
>
> - Lens is ready to graduate. What are the next steps to take?
> - Lens is not ready to graduate. What are the next steps the community
> wants to focus on for getting ready for graduation?
>
> If you have not already looked at the graduation documents, I would
> encourage to go through the docs
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html and
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator,
> for making this discussion useful,
>
> After going through the graduation docs, here is what i could gather.
>
> Preparations
>
> - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lens.html
> - Ensure suitable names
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for
> project name and product names - DONE
> - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> - DONE
> - Demonstrate community readiness
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> - We have
> questions coming up on dev list and have clarification/usage questions
> coming up on user mailing lists. Though the traffic is not huge on user
> mailing list.
> - Ensure Mentors
> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor>
> and IPMC
> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29>
> have
> no remaining issues
> <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> - I
> think there are no issues.
>
>
> What do others think?
>
> Thanks
> Amareshwari
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com