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[cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Team,
Currently the implementation of modules in 2.1 and 2.0.4 differ in
that in 2.1 they switched from using the request object to using the
objectModel. Obviosely, all components that make use of them are
affected by it. This makes it more difficult than necessary to keep
both branches up to date.
Since it affects only scratchpad in 2.0.4 and 2.1 is planned for 2003,
I'd like to sync this aspect in both branches again. Objections?
As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
On 09.Aug.2002 -- 11:27 AM, Per Kreipke wrote:
> > As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> > consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> > usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> > have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
>
> Please, would make sitemaps infinitely more readable than having to include
> RequestActions, etc in every matcher.
So, give it a shot! (remember: _compiled_ sitemap, not _treeprocessor_)
Silvain, could you sync' treeprocessor as well?
Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
On 11.Aug.2002 -- 06:34 PM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
> >
> > Hi, it looks like I screwed up :-(
>
> Don't know what you are talking about! :)
>
> Checkout shows 7 files:
That's good to hear!
Note to myself: Don't use http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi to check
cvs operations. It drove me nuts yesterday night.
Thanks for cheering me up :-)
OK, I believe I've now finished the moving. At least clean checkouts
look good while viewcvs.cgi doesn't.
Chris.
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RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 3:08 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
>
> Hi, it looks like I screwed up :-(
>
> At least for reason unknown to me I don't manage to see files which I
wanted
> to
> add to cocoon_2_0_3_branch through the view_cvs interface. E.g.
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-
>
cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_wit
h_tag=
> cocoon_2_0_3_branch
> shows 4 files while
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-
>
cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_wit
h_tag=
> HEAD
> shows 7 files although I treated all files the same.
>
> Interestingly enough, cvs status seems to indicate that all 7 files
have the
> cocoon_2_0_3_branch tag %-|
Don't know what you are talking about! :)
Checkout shows 7 files:
xml-cocoon203\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\components\modules\database:
package.html
AbstractAutoIncrementModule.java
AutoIncrementModule.java
HsqlIdentityAutoIncrementModule.java
IfxSerialAutoIncrementModule.java
ManualAutoIncrementModule.java
MysqlAutoIncrementModule.java
And even twice:
xml-cocoon203\src\scratchpad\src\org\apache\cocoon\components\modules\da
tabase:
package.html
AbstractAutoIncrementModule.java
AutoIncrementModule.java
HsqlIdentityAutoIncrementModule.java
IfxSerialAutoIncrementModule.java
ManualAutoIncrementModule.java
MysqlAutoIncrementModule.java
What copy do you like more?
Vadim
> I'll try to figure it out tomorrow but I could need some help here.
> Unfortunately,
> this means that cvs is broken 'till I figure it out :-((
>
> Chris.
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RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
>
> Hi, it looks like I screwed up :-(
>
> At least for reason unknown to me I don't manage to see files which I
wanted
> to
> add to cocoon_2_0_3_branch through the view_cvs interface. E.g.
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-
>
cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_wit
h_tag=
> cocoon_2_0_3_branch
> shows 4 files while
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-
>
cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_wit
h_tag=
> HEAD
> shows 7 files although I treated all files the same.
>
> Interestingly enough, cvs status seems to indicate that all 7 files
have the
> cocoon_2_0_3_branch tag %-|
Don't know what you are talking about! :)
Checkout shows 7 files:
xml-cocoon203\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\components\modules\database:
package.html
AbstractAutoIncrementModule.java
AutoIncrementModule.java
HsqlIdentityAutoIncrementModule.java
IfxSerialAutoIncrementModule.java
ManualAutoIncrementModule.java
MysqlAutoIncrementModule.java
And even twice:
xml-cocoon203\src\scratchpad\src\org\apache\cocoon\components\modules\da
tabase:
package.html
AbstractAutoIncrementModule.java
AutoIncrementModule.java
HsqlIdentityAutoIncrementModule.java
IfxSerialAutoIncrementModule.java
ManualAutoIncrementModule.java
MysqlAutoIncrementModule.java
What copy do you like more?
Vadim
> I'll try to figure it out tomorrow but I could need some help here.
> Unfortunately,
> this means that cvs is broken 'till I figure it out :-((
>
> Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
Hi, it looks like I screwed up :-(
At least for reason unknown to me I don't manage to see files which I wanted to
add to cocoon_2_0_3_branch through the view_cvs interface. E.g.
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_with_tag=cocoon_2_0_3_branch
shows 4 files while
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/database/?only_with_tag=HEAD
shows 7 files although I treated all files the same.
Interestingly enough, cvs status seems to indicate that all 7 files have the
cocoon_2_0_3_branch tag %-|
I'll try to figure it out tomorrow but I could need some help here. Unfortunately,
this means that cvs is broken 'till I figure it out :-((
Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
On 09.Aug.2002 -- 08:47 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
>
> So, why not port stable features? Unless, of course, you state that
> input modules API is not stable yet.
Vadim, this is a thumbs up, alright :-)
Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Christian Haul wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> > Christian Haul wrote:
<snip/>
> > > As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> > > consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> > > usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> > > have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
> > >
> > Hmm, I'm a little bit against this - as I see the problem that we
> > start backporting more and more and finally have no differences
> > between 2.1 and 2.0.x.
>
> So? Really, why shouldn't 2.0.x evolve into 2.1 some day? At least if we
> don't put unstable or incompatible features in it. Having a development
> branch and a release branch is IMHO better than scratchpad :-) And the
> linux kernel does that quite well.
This spurred me to scan the archives. I remembered that we
had discussion about this in 2001-12 where it seemed that
branch management was going to become easier.
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Re: patch politics
<quote who="Carsten">
Hm, I hope that not the whole HEAD is experimental. It *should* be very
similar to the 2.0 branch, except for some experimental components.
We created the 2.0 branch some month ago exactly for this experimental
stuff which is now much better located in the scratchpad directory.
So we really should move all experimental code of 2.1 into scratchpad,
sync 2.1 with 2.0 and then only use the HEAD. If we than make a 2.0.1
very fast we can forget about the 2.0 branch.
</quote>
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RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
>
> On 09.Aug.2002 -- 11:53 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >
> > Christian Haul wrote:
> > > Since it affects only scratchpad in 2.0.4 and 2.1 is planned for
2003,
> > > I'd like to sync this aspect in both branches again. Objections?
> > >
> > Go for it!
>
> OK :-)
>
> > > As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> > > consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> > > usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> > > have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
> > >
> > Hmm, I'm a little bit against this - as I see the problem that we
> > start backporting more and more and finally have no differences
> > between 2.1 and 2.0.x.
Except the point that this is not possible because we have at least
couple of quite radical changes...
> So? Really, why shouldn't 2.0.x evolve into 2.1 some day?
So, why not port stable features? Unless, of course, you state that
input modules API is not stable yet.
Vadim
> At least if we
> don't put unstable or incompatible features in it. Having a
development
> branch and a release branch is IMHO better than scratchpad :-) And the
> linux kernel does that quite well.
>
> > And I think 2003 is way too late for the 2.1 release, we should
> > focus on the important things and get 2.1 before winter. Even if
> > that means moving some things back into the scratchpad.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
On 09.Aug.2002 -- 11:53 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
> Christian Haul wrote:
> > Since it affects only scratchpad in 2.0.4 and 2.1 is planned for 2003,
> > I'd like to sync this aspect in both branches again. Objections?
> >
> Go for it!
OK :-)
> > As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> > consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> > usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> > have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
> >
> Hmm, I'm a little bit against this - as I see the problem that we
> start backporting more and more and finally have no differences
> between 2.1 and 2.0.x.
So? Really, why shouldn't 2.0.x evolve into 2.1 some day? At least if we
don't put unstable or incompatible features in it. Having a development
branch and a release branch is IMHO better than scratchpad :-) And the
linux kernel does that quite well.
> And I think 2003 is way too late for the 2.1 release, we should
> focus on the important things and get 2.1 before winter. Even if
> that means moving some things back into the scratchpad.
Absolutely.
Chris.
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Michael Melhem <mi...@fztig938.bank.dresdner.net>.
> And I think 2003 is way too late for the 2.1 release, we should
> focus on the important things and get 2.1 before winter. Even if
> that means moving some things back into the scratchpad.
I agree that a 2003 release for 2.1 is rather late.
Perhaps a 2.11 branch should be created soon if we want a
2.1 release "out before winter" (we are talking northen hemisphere right :-P).
Regards,
Michael Melhem
>
> Carsten
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Re: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Ivelin Ivanov <iv...@apache.org>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carsten Ziegeler" <cz...@s-und-n.de>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
<snip/>
>
> And I think 2003 is way too late for the 2.1 release, we should
> focus on the important things and get 2.1 before winter. Even if
> that means moving some things back into the scratchpad.
+1
>
> Carsten
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RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Christian Haul wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> Currently the implementation of modules in 2.1 and 2.0.4 differ in
> that in 2.1 they switched from using the request object to using the
> objectModel. Obviosely, all components that make use of them are
> affected by it. This makes it more difficult than necessary to keep
> both branches up to date.
>
> Since it affects only scratchpad in 2.0.4 and 2.1 is planned for 2003,
> I'd like to sync this aspect in both branches again. Objections?
>
Go for it!
> As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
>
Hmm, I'm a little bit against this - as I see the problem that we
start backporting more and more and finally have no differences
between 2.1 and 2.0.x.
And I think 2003 is way too late for the 2.1 release, we should
focus on the important things and get 2.1 before winter. Even if
that means moving some things back into the scratchpad.
Carsten
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RE: [cvs 2.0.4] roadmap?
Posted by Per Kreipke <pe...@onclave.com>.
> As a sidenote, if 2.1 will take some while as it seems, should we
> consider to backport some 'cool' features? I volunteer to backport
> usage of InputModules for the compiled sitemap. Mmh, would help to
> have them moved out of scratchpad for that.
Please, would make sitemaps infinitely more readable than having to include
RequestActions, etc in every matcher.
Per
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