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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> on 2005/10/02 14:15:34 UTC
1.0-M5 candidate build
The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip. We
are running the tck on this.
The zip is available for testing at
http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag conditional
on the tck passing (again). I think the process would be that after
the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this zip distribution,
and a source distribution.
Many thanks,
david jencks
Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
David Jencks wrote, On 10/2/2005 5:15 AM:
> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would be
> that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this zip
> distribution, and a source distribution.
+1
Thanks for all the great work. I have seen you guys working in the wee
hours of the night to get this out.
Regards,
Alan
Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
+1
Excellent...maybe were about 6 - 8 weeks from 1.0 ? :)
Matt
David Jencks wrote:
> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I have
> tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip. We are
> running the tck on this.
>
> The zip is available for testing at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>
> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag conditional
> on the tck passing (again). I think the process would be that after the
> vote we would work on publishing the jars, this zip distribution, and a
> source distribution.
>
> Many thanks,
> david jencks
>
>
>
>
[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
I sent this last night and it never made it.
Resending as is.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
> Date: October 4, 2005 12:55:37 AM EDT
> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
> Subject: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5
> candidate build)
>
>
> This vote has been running 24 hours. I realize now I was sloppy in
> not designating a time.
>
> I think that this thread shows that we agree to release this code,
> and have found consensus on how to deal with the installer issue.
>
> +1 in favor : David J, David B, Geir, Jeff, Sachin, Alan, Matt,
> Dain, Gianny, Neil (eventually :), Dims, Aaron (presumed, now that
> installer is done)
>
> None against.
>
> I assume that we're ready to release tomorrow?
>
> geir
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>
>> (just making it clear for others)
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and
>>> I have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>> zip. We are running the tck on this.
>>>
>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>
>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>> would be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>> jars, this zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
I'm having some kind of mail problem. These went out last night (and
again this morning) - sending again through a different MTA.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
> Date: October 4, 2005 12:55:37 AM EDT
> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
> Subject: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5
> candidate build)
>
>
> This vote has been running 24 hours. I realize now I was sloppy in
> not designating a time.
>
> I think that this thread shows that we agree to release this code,
> and have found consensus on how to deal with the installer issue.
>
> +1 in favor : David J, David B, Geir, Jeff, Sachin, Alan, Matt,
> Dain, Gianny, Neil (eventually :), Dims, Aaron (presumed, now that
> installer is done)
>
> None against.
>
> I assume that we're ready to release tomorrow?
>
> geir
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>
>> (just making it clear for others)
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and
>>> I have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>> zip. We are running the tck on this.
>>>
>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>
>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>> would be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>> jars, this zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
This vote has been running 24 hours. I realize now I was sloppy in
not designating a time.
I think that this thread shows that we agree to release this code,
and have found consensus on how to deal with the installer issue.
+1 in favor : David J, David B, Geir, Jeff, Sachin, Alan, Matt, Dain,
Gianny, Neil (eventually :), Dims, Aaron (presumed, now that
installer is done)
None against.
I assume that we're ready to release tomorrow?
geir
On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>
>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and
>> I have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>> zip. We are running the tck on this.
>>
>> The zip is available for testing at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>
>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Excellent!
The post I just hit "send" for is moot...
geir
On Oct 3, 2005, at 12:49 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
>
>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to
>>> vote?
>>>
>>
>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>> installer. :)
>>
>
> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we have
> already run cover the installer version as well as the zip version
> since they include exactly the same jar files, directory structure,
> and configurations. The only difference is in the config.xml and
> config.list files, which are changed to run the tck anyway. I
> would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff be run from a
> maven plugin and integrated in the build and work by unpacking or
> including the zip distribution, but am willing to use what we have
> for M5. David Blevins is working on building an installer. With
> luck it will be available shortly.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>
>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven --
>>>> the
>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>
>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>>> doing
>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>>> that the
>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>>> distro. I
>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>> installer
>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>> opinions on
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>>> (Also,
>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>> advertised
>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>> available
>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
>>>>> that you
>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>>> worked. It
>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>>> built.
>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>> really
>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>> release.
>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
On 10/3/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
> > If the installer will be ready tomorrow, can we just declare our
> > release party to be tomorrow and provide them all at once? I would
> > prefer that the installer not be a second-class citizen.
>
> Agreed. I'm with you...
>
> >
> > That said, if the installer would be ready tomorrow, I won't
> > complain if everyone else wants to release today.
>
> I assume you mean "won't"?
Perhaps I should have said "as long as we're committed to release the
installer tomorrow, I definitely won't -1 a release today, it's close
enough." But my preference is still to do it all together tomorrow. :)
Aaron
> Aaron
> >
> > On 10/3/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote: How do we
> > want to proceed?
> >
> > As i understand it, the tgz and zip distros are done and tested, and
> > all is well. Can we release those and follow up with the installer
> > as soon as available?
> >
> > geir
> >
> > On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:40 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >
> > > First, the good news:
> > >
> > > All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
> > > jetty and tomcat!
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
> > > installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
> > > does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
> > > are not relocatable.
> > >
> > > I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
> > > include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
> > > installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
> > > think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
> > > and we will have to try again tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > david jencks
> > >
> > > On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ta-da!
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
> > >>
> > >> -David
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care
> > >>>>> to vote?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
> > >>>> available,
> > >>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the
> > >>>> vote
> > >>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> > >>>> installer. :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we
> > >>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip
> > >>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory
> > >>> structure, and configurations. The only difference is in the
> > >>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the
> > >>> tck anyway. I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff
> > >>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work
> > >>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing to
> > >>> use what we have for M5. David Blevins is working on building an
> > >>> installer. With luck it will be available shortly.
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks
> > >>> david jencks
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Aaron
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven
> > >>>>>> -- the
> > >>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a
> > >>>>>> condition of
> > >>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> > >>>>>> assembly zip.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Aaron
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
> > >>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not
> > up for
> > >>>>>>> doing
> > >>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
> > >>>>>>> that the
> > >>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
> > >>>>>>> distro. I
> > >>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was
> > built by
> > >>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
> > >>>>>>> copying
> > >>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
> > >>>>>>> installer
> > >>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
> > >>>>>>> opinions on
> > >>>>>>> this.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
> > >>>>>>> same
> > >>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
> > >>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
> > >>>>>>>> distribute
> > >>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
> > >>>>>>>> compelling need
> > >>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the
> > >>>>>>>> product. (Also,
> > >>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
> > >>>>>>>> because
> > >>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
> > >>>>>>>> nickel for
> > >>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
> > >>>>>>> advertised
> > >>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
> > >>>>>>> available
> > >>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released
> > >>>>>>> by its
> > >>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
> > >>>>>>> that you
> > >>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
> > >>>>>>> worked. It
> > >>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it
> > >>>>>>> was built.
> > >>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5
> > but I
> > >>>>>>> really
> > >>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
> > >>>>>>> release.
> > >>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>>> david jencks
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Aaron
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside
> > >>>>>>>>> from being
> > >>>>>>>>> too
> > >>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it
> > clear
> > >>>>>>>>> that the
> > >>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified???
> > >>>>>>>>> I'd
> > >>>>>>>>> prefer
> > >>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
> > >>>>>>>>> think it
> > >>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
> > >>>>>>>>> sure about
> > >>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we
> > found a
> > >>>>>>>>> way to
> > >>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
> > >>>>>>>>> and just
> > >>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
> > >>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>> be an
> > >>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
> > >>>>>>>>> if it is
> > >>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
> > >>>>>>>>> couldn't get
> > >>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
> > >>>>>>>>> installer kit
> > >>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
> > >>>>>>>>> questions
> > >>>>>>>>> so we
> > >>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>>>>> david jencks
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Aaron
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this
> > happen.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> geir
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on
> > this tag
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> > >>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
> > >>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> > +1-203-665-6437
> > >>>>> geirm@apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > geirm@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> If the installer will be ready tomorrow, can we just declare our
> release party to be tomorrow and provide them all at once? I would
> prefer that the installer not be a second-class citizen.
Agreed. I'm with you...
>
> That said, if the installer would be ready tomorrow, I won't
> complain if everyone else wants to release today.
I assume you mean "won't"?
geir
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/3/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote: How do we
> want to proceed?
>
> As i understand it, the tgz and zip distros are done and tested, and
> all is well. Can we release those and follow up with the installer
> as soon as available?
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:40 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> > First, the good news:
> >
> > All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
> > jetty and tomcat!
> >
> > Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
> > installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
> > does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
> > are not relocatable.
> >
> > I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
> > include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
> > installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
> > think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
> > and we will have to try again tomorrow.
> >
> > Thanks
> > david jencks
> >
> > On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Ta-da!
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care
> >>>>> to vote?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
> >>>> available,
> >>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the
> >>>> vote
> >>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> >>>> installer. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we
> >>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip
> >>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory
> >>> structure, and configurations. The only difference is in the
> >>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the
> >>> tck anyway. I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff
> >>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work
> >>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing to
> >>> use what we have for M5. David Blevins is working on building an
> >>> installer. With luck it will be available shortly.
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>> david jencks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Aaron
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven
> >>>>>> -- the
> >>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a
> >>>>>> condition of
> >>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> >>>>>> assembly zip.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
> >>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not
> up for
> >>>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
> >>>>>>> that the
> >>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
> >>>>>>> distro. I
> >>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was
> built by
> >>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
> >>>>>>> copying
> >>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
> >>>>>>> installer
> >>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
> >>>>>>> opinions on
> >>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
> >>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
> >>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
> >>>>>>>> distribute
> >>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
> >>>>>>>> compelling need
> >>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the
> >>>>>>>> product. (Also,
> >>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
> >>>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
> >>>>>>>> nickel for
> >>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
> >>>>>>> advertised
> >>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
> >>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released
> >>>>>>> by its
> >>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
> >>>>>>> that you
> >>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
> >>>>>>> worked. It
> >>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it
> >>>>>>> was built.
> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5
> but I
> >>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
> >>>>>>> release.
> >>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside
> >>>>>>>>> from being
> >>>>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it
> clear
> >>>>>>>>> that the
> >>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified???
> >>>>>>>>> I'd
> >>>>>>>>> prefer
> >>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
> >>>>>>>>> think it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
> >>>>>>>>> sure about
> >>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we
> found a
> >>>>>>>>> way to
> >>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
> >>>>>>>>> and just
> >>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> be an
> >>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
> >>>>>>>>> if it is
> >>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
> >>>>>>>>> couldn't get
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
> >>>>>>>>> installer kit
> >>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
> >>>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>>> so we
> >>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this
> happen.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> geir
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
> >>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on
> this tag
> >>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
If the installer will be ready tomorrow, can we just declare our release
party to be tomorrow and provide them all at once? I would prefer that the
installer not be a second-class citizen.
That said, if the installer would be ready tomorrow, I won't complain if
everyone else wants to release today.
Aaron
On 10/3/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> How do we want to proceed?
>
> As i understand it, the tgz and zip distros are done and tested, and
> all is well. Can we release those and follow up with the installer
> as soon as available?
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:40 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> > First, the good news:
> >
> > All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
> > jetty and tomcat!
> >
> > Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
> > installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
> > does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
> > are not relocatable.
> >
> > I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
> > include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
> > installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
> > think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
> > and we will have to try again tomorrow.
> >
> > Thanks
> > david jencks
> >
> > On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Ta-da!
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care
> >>>>> to vote?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
> >>>> available,
> >>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the
> >>>> vote
> >>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> >>>> installer. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we
> >>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip
> >>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory
> >>> structure, and configurations. The only difference is in the
> >>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the
> >>> tck anyway. I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff
> >>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work
> >>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing to
> >>> use what we have for M5. David Blevins is working on building an
> >>> installer. With luck it will be available shortly.
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>> david jencks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Aaron
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven
> >>>>>> -- the
> >>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a
> >>>>>> condition of
> >>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> >>>>>> assembly zip.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
> >>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
> >>>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
> >>>>>>> that the
> >>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
> >>>>>>> distro. I
> >>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
> >>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
> >>>>>>> copying
> >>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
> >>>>>>> installer
> >>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
> >>>>>>> opinions on
> >>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
> >>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
> >>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
> >>>>>>>> distribute
> >>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
> >>>>>>>> compelling need
> >>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the
> >>>>>>>> product. (Also,
> >>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
> >>>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
> >>>>>>>> nickel for
> >>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
> >>>>>>> advertised
> >>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
> >>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released
> >>>>>>> by its
> >>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
> >>>>>>> that you
> >>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
> >>>>>>> worked. It
> >>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it
> >>>>>>> was built.
> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
> >>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
> >>>>>>> release.
> >>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside
> >>>>>>>>> from being
> >>>>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
> >>>>>>>>> that the
> >>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified???
> >>>>>>>>> I'd
> >>>>>>>>> prefer
> >>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
> >>>>>>>>> think it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
> >>>>>>>>> sure about
> >>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
> >>>>>>>>> way to
> >>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
> >>>>>>>>> and just
> >>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> be an
> >>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
> >>>>>>>>> if it is
> >>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
> >>>>>>>>> couldn't get
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
> >>>>>>>>> installer kit
> >>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
> >>>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>>> so we
> >>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> geir
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
> >>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> >>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:40 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> First, the good news:
>
> All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
> jetty and tomcat!
>
> Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
> installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
> does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
> are not relocatable.
>
> I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
> include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
> installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
> think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
> and we will have to try again tomorrow.
I just realized I accidentally built the installer from the branch/
1.0-M5 dir (which wasn't current) and not the tags/1.0-M5....
Anyway the release itself was definitely done from the tag.
-David
> Thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
>
>> Ta-da!
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>>
>> -David
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I may not yet have voted although I think my sentiments are clear
already:
+1 to releasing the zip now
+1 to releasing the installer jar now.
david jencks
On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:08 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> I've modified my local copy of modules/assembly/maven.xml to do the
> automated parts of building an installer from the distro zip file when
> located in target/distributions and build an installer from the
> geronimo-1.0-M5.zip file we tested. I'm attaching the diff for the
> maven.xml. This installer works as far as I can tell.
>
> I'm uploading the installer to people.apache.org and will attempt to
> get it to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~djencks/geronimo-installer-1.0-M5.jar
>
> when the upload finishes in about 20 minutes.
>
> I suggest we release this copy, use this email as documentation about
> how it was prepared, and improve the installer build for head.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> <maven-installer.diff>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:40 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>> First, the good news:
>>
>> All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both jetty
>> and tomcat!
>>
>> Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the
>> geronimo-installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat
>> included does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat
>> configurations are not relocatable.
>>
>> I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
>> include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
>> installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
>> think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
>> and we will have to try again tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>> Ta-da!
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to
>>>>>> vote?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
>>>>> available,
>>>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the
>>>>> vote
>>>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>>>>> installer. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we have
>>>> already run cover the installer version as well as the zip version
>>>> since they include exactly the same jar files, directory structure,
>>>> and configurations. The only difference is in the config.xml and
>>>> config.list files, which are changed to run the tck anyway. I
>>>> would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff be run from a
>>>> maven plugin and integrated in the build and work by unpacking or
>>>> including the zip distribution, but am willing to use what we have
>>>> for M5. David Blevins is working on building an installer. With
>>>> luck it will be available shortly.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven --
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>>>>>> distro. I
>>>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
>>>>>>>> copying
>>>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>>>>> installer
>>>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>>>>> opinions on
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
>>>>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>>>>>> (Also,
>>>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
>>>>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>>>>> advertised
>>>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
>>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>>>>>> worked. It
>>>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>>>>>> built.
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified???
>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
>>>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if
>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
>>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@4quarters.com>.
+1 if it gets us over the installer hump, and Aaron will vote +1 to
this thread...
On Oct 3, 2005, at 4:08 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> I've modified my local copy of modules/assembly/maven.xml to do the
> automated parts of building an installer from the distro zip file
> when located in target/distributions and build an installer from
> the geronimo-1.0-M5.zip file we tested. I'm attaching the diff for
> the maven.xml. This installer works as far as I can tell.
>
> I'm uploading the installer to people.apache.org and will attempt
> to get it to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~djencks/geronimo-installer-1.0-M5.jar
>
> when the upload finishes in about 20 minutes.
>
> I suggest we release this copy, use this email as documentation
> about how it was prepared, and improve the installer build for head.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>
> <maven-installer.diff>
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:40 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>
>> First, the good news:
>>
>> All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
>> jetty and tomcat!
>>
>> Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
>> installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
>> does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
>> are not relocatable.
>>
>> I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
>> include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
>> installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
>> think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
>> and we will have to try again tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ta-da!
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care
>>>>>> to vote?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
>>>>> available,
>>>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that
>>>>> the vote
>>>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>>>>> installer. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we
>>>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip
>>>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory
>>>> structure, and configurations. The only difference is in the
>>>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the
>>>> tck anyway. I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff
>>>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work
>>>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing
>>>> to use what we have for M5. David Blevins is working on
>>>> building an installer. With luck it will be available shortly.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven
>>>>>>> -- the
>>>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a
>>>>>>> condition of
>>>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>>>>>> distro. I
>>>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was
>>>>>>>> built by
>>>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
>>>>>>>> copying
>>>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>>>>> installer
>>>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>>>>> opinions on
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on
>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
>>>>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the
>>>>>>>>> product. (Also,
>>>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
>>>>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>>>>> advertised
>>>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released
>>>>>>>> by its
>>>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
>>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>>>>>> worked. It
>>>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it
>>>>>>>> was built.
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside
>>>>>>>>>> from being
>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it
>>>>>>>>>> certified??? I'd
>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
>>>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
>>>>>>>>>> sure about
>>>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
>>>>>>>>>> and just
>>>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
>>>>>>>>>> if it is
>>>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
>>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geir@optonline.net
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I've modified my local copy of modules/assembly/maven.xml to do the
automated parts of building an installer from the distro zip file when
located in target/distributions and build an installer from the
geronimo-1.0-M5.zip file we tested. I'm attaching the diff for the
maven.xml. This installer works as far as I can tell.
I'm uploading the installer to people.apache.org and will attempt to
get it to
http://people.apache.org/~djencks/geronimo-installer-1.0-M5.jar
when the upload finishes in about 20 minutes.
I suggest we release this copy, use this email as documentation about
how it was prepared, and improve the installer build for head.
thanks
david jencks
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
How do we want to proceed?
As i understand it, the tgz and zip distros are done and tested, and
all is well. Can we release those and follow up with the installer
as soon as available?
geir
On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:40 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> First, the good news:
>
> All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both
> jetty and tomcat!
>
> Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo-
> installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included
> does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations
> are not relocatable.
>
> I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
> include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
> installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I
> think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer
> and we will have to try again tomorrow.
>
> Thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
>
>> Ta-da!
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care
>>>>> to vote?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package
>>>> available,
>>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the
>>>> vote
>>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>>>> installer. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we
>>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip
>>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory
>>> structure, and configurations. The only difference is in the
>>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the
>>> tck anyway. I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff
>>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work
>>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing to
>>> use what we have for M5. David Blevins is working on building an
>>> installer. With luck it will be available shortly.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven
>>>>>> -- the
>>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a
>>>>>> condition of
>>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>>>>> distro. I
>>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than
>>>>>>> copying
>>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>>>> installer
>>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>>>> opinions on
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
>>>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the
>>>>>>>> product. (Also,
>>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
>>>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>>>> advertised
>>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released
>>>>>>> by its
>>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>>>>> worked. It
>>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it
>>>>>>> was built.
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside
>>>>>>>>> from being
>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified???
>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
>>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
>>>>>>>>> sure about
>>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
>>>>>>>>> and just
>>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
>>>>>>>>> if it is
>>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
First, the good news:
All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both jetty
and tomcat!
Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the
geronimo-installer.jar. It works fine for jetty but the tomcat
included does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat
configurations are not relocatable.
I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does
include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an
installer also includes this fix (but has other problems). So, I think
david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer and we
will have to try again tomorrow.
Thanks
david jencks
On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> Ta-da!
>
> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>
> -David
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to
>>>> vote?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
>>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>>> installer. :)
>>>
>>
>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we have
>> already run cover the installer version as well as the zip version
>> since they include exactly the same jar files, directory structure,
>> and configurations. The only difference is in the config.xml and
>> config.list files, which are changed to run the tck anyway. I would
>> prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff be run from a maven plugin
>> and integrated in the build and work by unpacking or including the
>> zip distribution, but am willing to use what we have for M5. David
>> Blevins is working on building an installer. With luck it will be
>> available shortly.
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven --
>>>>> the
>>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>>> installer
>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>>> opinions on
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>>>> (Also,
>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>>> advertised
>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>>>> built.
>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>>> release.
>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer
>>>>>>>> kit
>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
Ta-da!
http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
-David
On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
>
>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to
>>> vote?
>>>
>>
>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
>> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>> installer. :)
>>
>
> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we have
> already run cover the installer version as well as the zip version
> since they include exactly the same jar files, directory structure,
> and configurations. The only difference is in the config.xml and
> config.list files, which are changed to run the tck anyway. I
> would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff be run from a
> maven plugin and integrated in the build and work by unpacking or
> including the zip distribution, but am willing to use what we have
> for M5. David Blevins is working on building an installer. With
> luck it will be available shortly.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>
>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven --
>>>> the
>>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>
>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>>> doing
>>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>>> that the
>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>>> distro. I
>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>>> installer
>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>> opinions on
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a
>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>>> (Also,
>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a
>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>> advertised
>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>>> available
>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site
>>>>> that you
>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>>> worked. It
>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>>> built.
>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>>> really
>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>> release.
>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I
>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to vote?
>
> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> installer. :)
I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we have
already run cover the installer version as well as the zip version
since they include exactly the same jar files, directory structure, and
configurations. The only difference is in the config.xml and
config.list files, which are changed to run the tck anyway. I would
prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff be run from a maven plugin
and integrated in the build and work by unpacking or including the zip
distribution, but am willing to use what we have for M5. David Blevins
is working on building an installer. With luck it will be available
shortly.
thanks
david jencks
>
> Aaron
>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>
>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>> assembly zip.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>> doing
>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that
>>>> the
>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I
>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer
>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>> opinions on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling
>>>>> need
>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>> (Also,
>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>> because
>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>> advertised
>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>> available
>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked.
>>>> It
>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>> built.
>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>> really
>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>> release.
>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>> way to
>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>> be an
>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer
>>>>>> kit
>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>> so we
>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 12:11 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to
>> vote?
>>
>
> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
> but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> installer. :)
I'd like to see the installer too, but isn't the packaging a
different issue? Can't the installer-based distro follow the plain-
jane .tgz and .zip if it had to?
geir
>
> Aaron
>
>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
>>> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>
>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>> assembly zip.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>> doing
>>>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim
>>>> that the
>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip
>>>> distro. I
>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the
>>>> installer
>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>> opinions on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
>>>>> distribute
>>>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling
>>>>> need
>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.
>>>>> (Also,
>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>> because
>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel
>>>>> for
>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>> advertised
>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>>>> available
>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that
>>>> you
>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet
>>>> worked. It
>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was
>>>> built.
>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>> really
>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>> release.
>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>>>> way to
>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>> be an
>>>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>> so we
>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to vote?
I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
but it seemed like it would be rude. So now I'm hoping that the vote
drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
installer. :)
Aaron
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
> > Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
> > previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
> > Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
> >
> > It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> > assembly zip.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think there are a couple of issues:
> >> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
> >> doing
> >> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
> >> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I
> >> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
> >> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
> >> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer
> >> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
> >> opinions on
> >> this.
> >>
> >> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
> >> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
> >> machines, so he should do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
> >>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
> >>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product. (Also,
> >>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
> >>> because
> >>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
> >>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
> >> advertised
> >> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
> >> available
> >> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
> >> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
> >> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked. It
> >> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
> >> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
> >> really
> >> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
> >> release.
> >> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
> >>
> >> Anyone else have an opinion?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> david jencks
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being
> >>>> too
> >>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
> >>>> that the
> >>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
> >>>> prefer
> >>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
> >>>> would
> >>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
> >>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
> >>>> way to
> >>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
> >>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
> >>>> be an
> >>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
> >>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
> >>>> for
> >>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
> >>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
> >>>> so we
> >>>> can put out a installer version.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>> david jencks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Aaron
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 from me
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> geir
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
> >>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
> >>>>>>> zip.
> >>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> >>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> >>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to vote?
:)
geir
On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
> previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>
> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> assembly zip.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>> doing
>> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I
>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer
>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>> opinions on
>> this.
>>
>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
>> machines, so he should do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
>>> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product. (Also,
>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>> because
>>> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>
>>
>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>> advertised
>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff
>> available
>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked. It
>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>> really
>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>> release.
>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>
>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being
>>>> too
>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>
>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>> that the
>>>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd
>>>> prefer
>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
>>>> would
>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a
>>>> way to
>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>> be an
>>>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>>>
>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
>>>> for
>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>> so we
>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
previous release is. I would be happy to make that a condition of
Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the assembly zip.
Aaron
On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think there are a couple of issues:
> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for doing
> it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I
> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
> all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer
> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other opinions on
> this.
>
> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
> assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
> machines, so he should do it.
>
>
> > Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
> > our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
> > to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product. (Also,
> > you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only because
> > the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
> > every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>
> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well advertised
> site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff available
> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
> authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked. It
> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I really
> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next release.
> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>
> Anyone else have an opinion?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> >>
> >> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being
> >> too
> >> tired right now to put it together :-)
> >>
> >> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear that the
> >> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd prefer
> >> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
> >> would
> >> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
> >> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a way to
> >> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
> >> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would be an
> >> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
> >> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
> >>
> >> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
> >> for
> >> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
> >> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> >>
> >> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions so we
> >> can put out a installer version.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> david jencks
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> (just making it clear for others)
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 from me
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
> >>>>
> >>>> geir
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> >>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> >>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> >>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> >>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> >>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Sorry, I thought you had figured out the installer issue. We should
> certainly be able to build it from the same files as we distribute
> normally. Where does it stand now? I can tweak it if you've run out
> of energy for it.
>
> The installer also has a scripted/automated install process, which
> should address unpacking/running to get something to test.
>
I think there are a couple of issues:
1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for doing
it again for a while. I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro. I
would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
all/most of the files. It's probably fine if we build the installer
using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other opinions on
this.
2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
assembly module copy as the zip. That's one of David Blevin's
machines, so he should do it.
> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
> our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product. (Also,
> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only because
> the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well advertised
site with automated downloads and usually works fine. Stuff available
from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
authors. The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked. It
has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I really
don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next release.
I think izpack has to be run from maven.
Anyone else have an opinion?
thanks
david jencks
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>
>> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being
>> too
>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>
>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear that the
>> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd prefer
>> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it
>> would
>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
>> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a way to
>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would be an
>> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
>> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>>
>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
>> for
>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>
>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions so we
>> can put out a installer version.
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>
>>>> +1 from me
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Sorry, I thought you had figured out the installer issue. We should
certainly be able to build it from the same files as we distribute
normally. Where does it stand now? I can tweak it if you've run out
of energy for it.
The installer also has a scripted/automated install process, which
should address unpacking/running to get something to test.
Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
our own IzPack. But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product. (Also,
you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only because
the download was troublesome for you, right? If I had a nickel for
every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
Aaron
On 10/2/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
> > Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>
> well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being too
> tired right now to put it together :-)
>
> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear that the
> installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd prefer
> to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it would
> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
> unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a way to
> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would be an
> issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
> built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
>
> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get for
> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>
> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions so we
> can put out a installer version.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> (just making it clear for others)
> >>
> >> +1 from me
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
> >>
> >> geir
> >>
> >> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>
> >>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> >>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> >>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>
> >>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>
> >>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> >>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> >>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> >>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> david jencks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >> geirm@apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
well, I'm not sure. I see two potential problems, aside from being too
tired right now to put it together :-)
1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear that the
installer version wasn't certified? Or is it certified??? I'd prefer
to find a way to certify the installer based version. I think it would
be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
unpacking/running it to get something to test. If we found a way to
make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would be an
issue. Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
built from the same assembly as the zip. I'm just not sure.
2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get for
myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions so we
can put out a installer version.
thanks
david jencks
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>> (just making it clear for others)
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>
>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>
>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Cool. Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
Thanks,
Aaron
On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> > The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> > have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> > We are running the tck on this.
> >
> > The zip is available for testing at
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >
> > We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> > conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> > be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> > zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > david jencks
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Neal Sanche <ne...@nsdev.org>.
Neal Sanche wrote:
> I don't know if I even carry voting rights here. But I'll try anyway.
>
> -1
>
> JavaMail functionality is currently broken in the binary release that
> David made available. Of course if this isn't a 'must fix' for M5,
> then feel free to disregard my vote.
Okay, I feel fickle today, I'm going to say that Jeff and David helped
me to install Sun JavaMail in my Geronimo M5 binary release and since
that works very well with the current geronimo-mail module, I'll go
ahead and release my vote reservation.
+2 (if you count my previous -1 vote as well)
-Neal
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Neal Sanche <ne...@nsdev.org>.
I don't know if I even carry voting rights here. But I'll try anyway.
-1
JavaMail functionality is currently broken in the binary release that
David made available. Of course if this isn't a 'must fix' for M5, then
feel free to disregard my vote.
Cheers.
-Neal
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>.
+ 1
Sachin
Jeff Genender wrote:
> +1 from me.
>
> Jeff
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>> (just making it clear for others)
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>
>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>
>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Jeff Genender <jg...@savoirtech.com>.
+1 from me.
Jeff
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
>> We are running the tck on this.
>>
>> The zip is available for testing at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>
>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would be
>> that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this zip
>> distribution, and a source distribution.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
Commons Logging w/ context priority works... :-)
Running the M5 build and starting the console, I see the following log
entries sent to STDOUT:
Starting the console:
11:05:09,066 WARN [Servlet] org.apache.pluto.portalImpl.Servlet#init():
Couldn't read property "pluto.allowSetBufferSize" from config file
ConfigService.properties
Checking the server logs:
11:05:18,700 WARN [KernelManagementHelper] Checking access log for
geronimo.server:J2EEApplication=null,J2EEModule=org/apache/geronimo/Jetty,J2EEServer=geronimo,j2eeType=GBean,name=JettyWebManager
/geronimo.server:J2EEApplication=null,J2EEModule=org/apache/geronimo/Jetty,J2EEServer=geronimo,j2eeType=GBean,name=JettyWebContainer
11:05:18,720 WARN [JettyLogManagerImpl] CRITERIA: D:\geronimo-
1.0-M5\var\log\jetty_2005_10_02.log null null null null 1128265200000
1128351600000 null 1000
Could someone verify they see the same?
--kevan
On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> > The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> > have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> > We are running the tck on this.
> >
> > The zip is available for testing at
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >
> > We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> > conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> > be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> > zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > david jencks
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.
On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> > The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> > have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> > We are running the tck on this.
> >
> > The zip is available for testing at
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >
> > We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> > conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> > be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> > zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > david jencks
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
+1
-dain
On Oct 2, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> +1
>
> Thanks again guys!
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 10/2/2005 5:31 AM:
>
>
>> (just making it clear for others)
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and
>>> I have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
>>> zip. We are running the tck on this.
>>>
>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>
>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process
>>> would be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
>>> jars, this zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
+1
Thanks again guys!
Regards,
Alan
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 10/2/2005 5:31 AM:
> (just making it clear for others)
>
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
>> We are running the tck on this.
>>
>> The zip is available for testing at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>
>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>
[VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
(just making it clear for others)
+1 from me
Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
geir
On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> The 1.0-M5 branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins and I
> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5 zip.
> We are running the tck on this.
>
> The zip is available for testing at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>
> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> conditional on the tck passing (again). I think the process would
> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars, this
> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>
> Many thanks,
> david jencks
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org