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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Bryan Andrews <ba...@trendinfluence.com> on 2004/03/05 18:32:40 UTC
Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Could someone on the SVN team comment on this? I keep ccing the subversion list but no one is "replying to all". :(
Bottom line is that we need to be able to configure working copies with a different directory name. I realize that it was not going to make it in to 1.0 but is it on the board as something that will happen in an upcoming release?
I (and I am sure countless others) would love to use subversion but the problem with web projects is preventing us from being able to commit to this. I understand there are user uploaded fixes for this, but if we commit to this it will only be if the project itself has made these changes. Our internal policies and politics (especially with respect to open source projects) require that there is always a clear upgrade path - which hacks do not provide.
Thanks for any consideration here.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Hind [mailto:rhind@mac.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:42 AM
To: dev@tortoisesvn.tigris.org
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion?
Folker Schamel wrote:
>
> Hey, guys, what about being constructive?
> Not discussing who's fault/bug it is (it IS a Microsoft bug),
> but discussing how the problem can be solved in a convincing way
> (saying that it is a Microsoft bug does not solve the problem).
>
Well in that case, IMHO, it is down to the SVN folks, not TortoiseSVN.
TSVN will work how the svn clients are intended to work and that is, for
now, with .svn unless you build your own custom version.
If svn clients change the way they work, then I'm sure Stefan et al
would be happy to make TSVN work the same, but until svn works this way,
why should they?
After all, you obviously have Visual Studio (unlike some of us) and so
are in a better position to be able to do this yourself :)
Cheers
Russell
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
Bryan Andrews wrote:
> Could someone on the SVN team comment on this? I keep ccing the subversion list
> but no one is "replying to all". :(
>
> Bottom line is that we need to be able to configure working copies with a different
> directory name. I realize that it was not going to make it in to 1.0 but is it on
> the board as something that will happen in an upcoming release?
>
> I (and I am sure countless others) would love to use subversion but the problem
> with web projects is preventing us from being able to commit to this. I understand
> there are user uploaded fixes for this, but if we commit to this it will only be
> if the project itself has made these changes. Our internal policies and politics
> (especially with respect to open source projects) require that there is always a
> clear upgrade path - which hacks do not provide.
>
> Thanks for any consideration here.
People from the 'subversion team' are not replying because we've had
this conversation several times already, and the answers are in the
archives of the mailing list.
The issue has been hashed over at least two or three times, probably
more, and the answer is not likely to change this time for the same
reasons it didn't change the last time.
-garrett
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by Erik Huelsmann <e....@gmx.net>.
Hi,
> > Is there a reason why you can't build your own binaries as recommended
> > in the FAQ?
> >
> > <http://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#adm-dir>
> >
> > Jim
>
>
> That's not the question that was asked. Changing a #define is a far cry
> >from official support from the project. This is a
> management/administration issue, not an "is this possible" question.
I believe the project has settled on this indeed being an adminstration
issue. Since you administer your clients yourself, this would be your own issue
(if you are able to compile your own clients). See past discussion in the
mailing list archives for more information.
(http://www.contactor.se/~dast/svn/ is a good source)
bye,
Erik.
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by Andreas Kostyrka <an...@kostyrka.org>.
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 01:55:17PM -0500, Brian Mathis wrote:
> That's not the question that was asked. Changing a #define is a far cry
> from official support from the project. This is a
What exactly do you mean by official support? *wonder*
Or do you have a paid-for support contract with the maintainers of svn?
*wonder*
Andreas
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by John Peacock <jp...@rowman.com>.
Brian Mathis wrote:
> That's not the question that was asked. Changing a #define is a far cry
> from official support from the project. This is a
> management/administration issue, not an "is this possible" question.
The question has been asked and answered repeatedly over the past months. It's
usually couched in terms like "This has to happen now! The many VS.NET users
will be unable to use Subversion otherwise!" This kind of attitude doesn't help
matters; no matter what M$oft uses in their advertising, VS.NET is still a small
fraction of development.
To paraphrase the frequent answer: it is a known problem, it will be fixed, we
don't know when, it wasn't important enough to hold 1.0.0 up for. You can use
the same answer for the problem with renaming files which differ only in case on
Win32 systems, which is similarly a self-inflicted problem caused by the Borg of
Redmond... ;~)
John
(not speaking in any official capacity)
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by Brian Mathis <bm...@directedge.com>.
Jim Correia wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Bryan Andrews wrote:
>
>> Could someone on the SVN team comment on this? I keep ccing the
>> subversion list but no one is "replying to all". :(
>>
>> Bottom line is that we need to be able to configure working copies
>> with a different directory name. I realize that it was not going to
>> make it in to 1.0 but is it on the board as something that will
>> happen in an upcoming release?
>>
>> I (and I am sure countless others) would love to use subversion but
>> the problem with web projects is preventing us from being able to
>> commit to this. I understand there are user uploaded fixes for this,
>> but if we commit to this it will only be if the project itself has
>> made these changes. Our internal policies and politics (especially
>> with respect to open source projects) require that there is always a
>> clear upgrade path - which hacks do not provide.
>
>
> Is there a reason why you can't build your own binaries as recommended
> in the FAQ?
>
> <http://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#adm-dir>
>
> Jim
That's not the question that was asked. Changing a #define is a far cry
from official support from the project. This is a
management/administration issue, not an "is this possible" question.
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Brian Mathis
http://directedge.com/b/
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Re: Visual Studio.Net and Subversion - Will this make it into a release?
Posted by Jim Correia <ji...@pobox.com>.
On Mar 5, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Bryan Andrews wrote:
> Could someone on the SVN team comment on this? I keep ccing the
> subversion list but no one is "replying to all". :(
>
> Bottom line is that we need to be able to configure working copies
> with a different directory name. I realize that it was not going to
> make it in to 1.0 but is it on the board as something that will happen
> in an upcoming release?
>
> I (and I am sure countless others) would love to use subversion but
> the problem with web projects is preventing us from being able to
> commit to this. I understand there are user uploaded fixes for this,
> but if we commit to this it will only be if the project itself has
> made these changes. Our internal policies and politics (especially
> with respect to open source projects) require that there is always a
> clear upgrade path - which hacks do not provide.
Is there a reason why you can't build your own binaries as recommended
in the FAQ?
<http://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#adm-dir>
Jim
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