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Posted to dev@bigtop.apache.org by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> on 2011/09/06 22:44:13 UTC
[VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Hi,
Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
* Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
* Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
* Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
* Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
Thanks!
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:41PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> On 09/09/2011 09:28 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> > Sorry if I am missing something, but why exactly a re-vote would be needed?
> > Any references to bylaws dictating it? ;)
> >
> > Cos
> >
>
> That was a question, not an affirmation :)
> People have voted on something which is different than what Andrew want
> to propose. So I am not sure their votes would still apply. Or does that
> mean we can start a vote, have some people voting and then change the
> terms of the vote and still apply the votes for the previous proposal?
>
> The vote is now closed and I am about to count votes. So any additional
> information is welcome.
I see. If it is closed then it closed. Changes are suppose to be revoted, I guess.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/09/2011 09:28 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> Sorry if I am missing something, but why exactly a re-vote would be needed?
> Any references to bylaws dictating it? ;)
>
> Cos
>
That was a question, not an affirmation :)
People have voted on something which is different than what Andrew want
to propose. So I am not sure their votes would still apply. Or does that
mean we can start a vote, have some people voting and then change the
terms of the vote and still apply the votes for the previous proposal?
The vote is now closed and I am about to count votes. So any additional
information is welcome.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>.
Sorry if I am missing something, but why exactly a re-vote would be needed?
Any references to bylaws dictating it? ;)
Cos
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 04:09PM, Bruno MahИ wrote:
> On 09/09/2011 04:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Bruno MahИ <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Reverting to what? -1 or -/+0?
> >>
> >> CentOS6 and openSUSE are still *very* important platforms we should support.
> >> And as we agreed, I will run build and tests on all openSUSE and Fedora
> >> once a week. I can also handle CentOS6.
> >>
> >> If we add CentOS5 that's great, but I would rather close that vote first
> >> and then add centos5 when we get the resource up and running.
> >>
> >> I don't want to take the chance to loose support for CentOS6 or
> >> openSUSE. It would be a lot more work to re-introduce them than keeping
> >> them working.
> > Personally, I think we should add CentOS 5 back and call it a day for 0.2.0.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
>
> I don't mind but after all these changes we would probably need to call
> another vote, wouldn't we?
>
> I would rather close that one since most people have agreed so far and
> make another vote for CentOS5.
> It does not impede on anything would be less confusing that way.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/09/2011 04:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Reverting to what? -1 or -/+0?
>>
>> CentOS6 and openSUSE are still *very* important platforms we should support.
>> And as we agreed, I will run build and tests on all openSUSE and Fedora
>> once a week. I can also handle CentOS6.
>>
>> If we add CentOS5 that's great, but I would rather close that vote first
>> and then add centos5 when we get the resource up and running.
>>
>> I don't want to take the chance to loose support for CentOS6 or
>> openSUSE. It would be a lot more work to re-introduce them than keeping
>> them working.
> Personally, I think we should add CentOS 5 back and call it a day for 0.2.0.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
I don't mind but after all these changes we would probably need to call
another vote, wouldn't we?
I would rather close that one since most people have agreed so far and
make another vote for CentOS5.
It does not impede on anything would be less confusing that way.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Reverting to what? -1 or -/+0?
>
> CentOS6 and openSUSE are still *very* important platforms we should support.
> And as we agreed, I will run build and tests on all openSUSE and Fedora
> once a week. I can also handle CentOS6.
>
> If we add CentOS5 that's great, but I would rather close that vote first
> and then add centos5 when we get the resource up and running.
>
> I don't want to take the chance to loose support for CentOS6 or
> openSUSE. It would be a lot more work to re-introduce them than keeping
> them working.
Personally, I think we should add CentOS 5 back and call it a day for 0.2.0.
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
Reverting to what? -1 or -/+0?
CentOS6 and openSUSE are still *very* important platforms we should support.
And as we agreed, I will run build and tests on all openSUSE and Fedora
once a week. I can also handle CentOS6.
If we add CentOS5 that's great, but I would rather close that vote first
and then add centos5 when we get the resource up and running.
I don't want to take the chance to loose support for CentOS6 or
openSUSE. It would be a lot more work to re-introduce them than keeping
them working.
On 09/09/2011 12:26 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> I'm reverting my +1 - OSUOSL doesn't yet have images for CentOS 6, OpenSUSE,
> Fedora. I personally believe we should only officially support those
> platforms which we can actually do full end-to-end testing on, and our
> end-to-end testing is most definitely moving to OSUOSL, so...
>
> My proposal would be CentOS 5 and Lucid for 0.2.0. Roman's working on more
> images for use at OSUOSL, so hopefully we can expand the list for 0.3.0, but
> for now, I think we're gated by what platforms we can actually test on.
>
> A.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 09/09/2011 03:48 AM, Steve Loughran wrote:
>>> On 06/09/11 21:44, Bruno Mahé wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>>> I'm not sure if I've missed the vote here so
>>>
>> This is the last day to vote I believe.
>> And If I understand correctly, you are -1 overall.
>>>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>>>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>>> =0. I've heard of problems related to glibc and other RHEL quirks
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7156
>>>
>>> The alternative would be the 5.7+ branches, which are what people tend
>>> to run in production
>>>
>> Right now we are still setting up the project and working on getting
>> resources.
>> In the mean time, I am for example running some build and tests on my
>> own VMs.
>>
>> So for now I would rather have us focus on a wider range of
>> distributions so we can ensure BigTop exercise most packaging paths. And
>> then, when we can get access to more resources we would add support for
>> CentOS5.
>> Having more frequent releases of Hadoop would also help (CentOS5 is
>> getting old and we can't patch anything for build or security issues).
>>
>> I am also planning on setting up builds against trunk of each projects
>> so we can potentially help stabilizing them and ensuring they work
>> properly when they get released. This would make it easier to support
>> old GNU/Linux distributions.
>>
>>>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>>> +1, even if the first thing you have to do on a 10.04 installation is
>>> delete the hostname -> loopback mapping in /etc/hosts
>>>
>>>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>>> +1 if someone wants to do it
>>>
>>>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>> I'm a -1 on this because it's too bleeding edge, it's not LTS, and you
>>> will end up debugging fedora problems.
>>>
>> I usually rebuild CDH on fedora + openJDK, and now BigTop on openJDK for
>> my personal usage and so far have hit only one issue which is already
>> fixed in 0.22, 0.23 and trunk.
>> So I am not really concerned about its bleeding edge. Actually I am more
>> concerned about old distributions (CentOS5, Debian Lenny...) than the
>> bleeding edge ones.
>>
>> I also noticed a few tickets on JIRA about getting hadoop working on
>> Fedora.
>>
>>
>>>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>>>> OSes.
>>>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>>>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>>>> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>>>> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
I'm reverting my +1 - OSUOSL doesn't yet have images for CentOS 6, OpenSUSE,
Fedora. I personally believe we should only officially support those
platforms which we can actually do full end-to-end testing on, and our
end-to-end testing is most definitely moving to OSUOSL, so...
My proposal would be CentOS 5 and Lucid for 0.2.0. Roman's working on more
images for use at OSUOSL, so hopefully we can expand the list for 0.3.0, but
for now, I think we're gated by what platforms we can actually test on.
A.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/09/2011 03:48 AM, Steve Loughran wrote:
> > On 06/09/11 21:44, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
> >
> > I'm not sure if I've missed the vote here so
> >
>
> This is the last day to vote I believe.
> And If I understand correctly, you are -1 overall.
> >>
> >> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> >> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> >
> > =0. I've heard of problems related to glibc and other RHEL quirks
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7156
> >
> > The alternative would be the 5.7+ branches, which are what people tend
> > to run in production
> >
>
> Right now we are still setting up the project and working on getting
> resources.
> In the mean time, I am for example running some build and tests on my
> own VMs.
>
> So for now I would rather have us focus on a wider range of
> distributions so we can ensure BigTop exercise most packaging paths. And
> then, when we can get access to more resources we would add support for
> CentOS5.
> Having more frequent releases of Hadoop would also help (CentOS5 is
> getting old and we can't patch anything for build or security issues).
>
> I am also planning on setting up builds against trunk of each projects
> so we can potentially help stabilizing them and ensuring they work
> properly when they get released. This would make it easier to support
> old GNU/Linux distributions.
>
> >> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> >
> > +1, even if the first thing you have to do on a 10.04 installation is
> > delete the hostname -> loopback mapping in /etc/hosts
> >
> >> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> >
> > +1 if someone wants to do it
> >
> >> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >
> > I'm a -1 on this because it's too bleeding edge, it's not LTS, and you
> > will end up debugging fedora problems.
> >
>
> I usually rebuild CDH on fedora + openJDK, and now BigTop on openJDK for
> my personal usage and so far have hit only one issue which is already
> fixed in 0.22, 0.23 and trunk.
> So I am not really concerned about its bleeding edge. Actually I am more
> concerned about old distributions (CentOS5, Debian Lenny...) than the
> bleeding edge ones.
>
> I also noticed a few tickets on JIRA about getting hadoop working on
> Fedora.
>
>
> >>
> >> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> >> OSes.
> >> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> >> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >>
> >>
> >> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> >> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >>
> >>
> >> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> >> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/09/2011 03:48 AM, Steve Loughran wrote:
> On 06/09/11 21:44, Bruno Mahé wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>
> I'm not sure if I've missed the vote here so
>
This is the last day to vote I believe.
And If I understand correctly, you are -1 overall.
>>
>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>
> =0. I've heard of problems related to glibc and other RHEL quirks
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7156
>
> The alternative would be the 5.7+ branches, which are what people tend
> to run in production
>
Right now we are still setting up the project and working on getting
resources.
In the mean time, I am for example running some build and tests on my
own VMs.
So for now I would rather have us focus on a wider range of
distributions so we can ensure BigTop exercise most packaging paths. And
then, when we can get access to more resources we would add support for
CentOS5.
Having more frequent releases of Hadoop would also help (CentOS5 is
getting old and we can't patch anything for build or security issues).
I am also planning on setting up builds against trunk of each projects
so we can potentially help stabilizing them and ensuring they work
properly when they get released. This would make it easier to support
old GNU/Linux distributions.
>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>
> +1, even if the first thing you have to do on a 10.04 installation is
> delete the hostname -> loopback mapping in /etc/hosts
>
>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>
> +1 if someone wants to do it
>
>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> I'm a -1 on this because it's too bleeding edge, it's not LTS, and you
> will end up debugging fedora problems.
>
I usually rebuild CDH on fedora + openJDK, and now BigTop on openJDK for
my personal usage and so far have hit only one issue which is already
fixed in 0.22, 0.23 and trunk.
So I am not really concerned about its bleeding edge. Actually I am more
concerned about old distributions (CentOS5, Debian Lenny...) than the
bleeding edge ones.
I also noticed a few tickets on JIRA about getting hadoop working on Fedora.
>>
>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>> OSes.
>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>
>>
>> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>
>>
>> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
Hi Steve!
I don't think the vote has been *officially* called yet.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> =0. I've heard of problems related to glibc and other RHEL quirks
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7156
Looks like this one should be now fixed upstream:
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0560.html
Thanks for the pointer, though. I've started a wiki page to record
this type of information:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/List+of+known+issues+on+various+platforms
Hopefully it will not grow too long ;-)
> The alternative would be the 5.7+ branches, which are what people tend to
> run in production
>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> I'm a -1 on this because it's too bleeding edge, it's not LTS, and you will
> end up debugging fedora problems.
On both of these point: personally, I'd love Bigtop to take a page out of
Ubuntu's book and have a ratio of LTS-type releases (where we support old
and stable) to ongoing type releases (where we support new and sometimes
bleeding-edge at the time) being 1:4 or something like that.
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
On 06/09/11 21:44, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
I'm not sure if I've missed the vote here so
>
> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
=0. I've heard of problems related to glibc and other RHEL quirks
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7156
The alternative would be the 5.7+ branches, which are what people tend
to run in production
> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
+1, even if the first thing you have to do on a 10.04 installation is
delete the hostname -> loopback mapping in /etc/hosts
> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
+1 if someone wants to do it
> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
I'm a -1 on this because it's too bleeding edge, it's not LTS, and you
will end up debugging fedora problems.
>
> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>
>
> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
fwiw, I am a strong -1 on officially supporting any platform that we don't
have automated tests running against, and given the install base for
CentOS/RHEL 5 out there, I'm -1 on excluding CentOS 5 from the supported
list.
A.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 04:43 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> > On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
> >>
> >> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> >> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> >> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> >> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> >> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >>
> >> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> OSes.
> >> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> >> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >>
> >>
> >> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> >> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >>
> >>
> >> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> >> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >
> > Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am replacing:
> > "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> > OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> > component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
> > by
> > "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
> > for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
> > can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be built or
> > tested on all of these OSes. "
>
> The vote has passed with 5 +1s and either 1 or 2 -1s (depending on how
> Andrew Bayer's last vote is interpreted).
>
> +1 Andre Arcilla
> +1 Edward J. Yoon
> +1 Peter Linnell
> +1 Roman Shaposhnik
> +1 Myself
>
> -1 Steve Loughran
>
> Andrew Bayer is either +0 or -1. It was not clear but either choice
> would not change the result.
>
> Thank you all for voting, and ensuring a bright future for BigTop!
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 04:43 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>>
>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>
>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>
>>
>> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>
>>
>> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am replacing:
> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
> by
> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be built or
> tested on all of these OSes. "
The vote has passed with 5 +1s and either 1 or 2 -1s (depending on how
Andrew Bayer's last vote is interpreted).
+1 Andre Arcilla
+1 Edward J. Yoon
+1 Peter Linnell
+1 Roman Shaposhnik
+1 Myself
-1 Steve Loughran
Andrew Bayer is either +0 or -1. It was not clear but either choice
would not change the result.
Thank you all for voting, and ensuring a bright future for BigTop!
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
One quick thing - it's important to remember that this is not a
locked-in-forever list. We can review this at any time in the future, and I
expect we will. For now, we're specifically voting on what platforms will be
officially supported for 0.2.0, and onward until we opt to change that list
of platforms.
A.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org>wrote:
> +1
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andre Arcilla <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1. Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Awesome!
> >> I am also +1 myself.
> >>
> >> On 09/06/2011 05:20 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> >>> Ok, then given that and it already working on Fedora, I'll +1.
> >>>
> >>> A.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
> >>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a
> >>> vote.
> >>> >
> >>> > So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> >>> > * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> >>> > * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> >>> > * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> >>> > * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >>> >
> >>> > This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
> >>> these OSes.
> >>> > It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> >>> component
> >>> > cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any
> >>> other
> >>> > platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the
> >>> committers
> >>> > or mentors list at
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am
> >>> replacing:
> >>> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
> these
> >>> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> >>> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
> >>> by
> >>> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken
> support
> >>> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
> >>> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be
> >>> built or
> >>> tested on all of these OSes. "
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
> @eddieyoon
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
+1
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andre Arcilla <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1. Thanks
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Awesome!
>> I am also +1 myself.
>>
>> On 09/06/2011 05:20 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>>> Ok, then given that and it already working on Fedora, I'll +1.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a
>>> vote.
>>> >
>>> > So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>>> > * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>>> > * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>>> > * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>>> > * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>> >
>>> > This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
>>> these OSes.
>>> > It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
>>> component
>>> > cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any
>>> other
>>> > platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the
>>> committers
>>> > or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>>
>>> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am
>>> replacing:
>>> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>>> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
>>> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
>>> by
>>> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
>>> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
>>> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be
>>> built or
>>> tested on all of these OSes. "
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
@eddieyoon
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andre Arcilla <ar...@apache.org>.
+1. Thanks
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Awesome!
> I am also +1 myself.
>
> On 09/06/2011 05:20 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>> Ok, then given that and it already working on Fedora, I'll +1.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a
>> vote.
>> >
>> > So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> > * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>> > * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>> > * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>> > * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>> >
>> > This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
>> these OSes.
>> > It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
>> component
>> > cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>> >
>> >
>> > This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any
>> other
>> > platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>> >
>> >
>> > The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the
>> committers
>> > or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>>
>> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am
>> replacing:
>> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
>> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
>> by
>> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
>> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
>> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be
>> built or
>> tested on all of these OSes. "
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
Awesome!
I am also +1 myself.
On 09/06/2011 05:20 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> Ok, then given that and it already working on Fedora, I'll +1.
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a
> vote.
> >
> > So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> > * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> > * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> > * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> > * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >
> > This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
> these OSes.
> > It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> component
> > cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >
> >
> > This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any
> other
> > platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the
> committers
> > or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am
> replacing:
> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
> by
> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be
> built or
> tested on all of these OSes. "
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Ok, then given that and it already working on Fedora, I'll +1.
A.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
> >
> > So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> > * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> > * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> > * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> > * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >
> > This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> > It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> > cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >
> >
> > This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> > platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> > or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am replacing:
> "This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
> by
> "This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
> for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
> can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be built or
> tested on all of these OSes. "
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>
> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>
>
> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
Since I want to focus on the list of supported platforms I am replacing:
"This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
OSes. It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
component cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes. "
by
"This means we can't release any version of BigTop with broken support
for any of these OSes (including build and tests). It also means we
can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component cannot be built or
tested on all of these OSes. "
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Peter Linnell <pl...@cloudera.com>.
On 09/06/2011 01:44 PM, Bruno Mahé wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>
> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>
>
> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
+1
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> I already do that at least once a week (minus automated tests) for
> Fedora as well as Mageia.
> So I would volunteer.
+1
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 04:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm still -1 on Fedora for 0.2.0, but would be fine with it for 0.3.0.
> If we can make sure that the trunk of Bigtop builds and package test pass on
> Fedora/OpenSUSE, I'd be willing to +1 Bruno's original proposal given that:
> 1. We can have somebody on the hook to run builds/tests there at
> least once a week
> and fix the problems there.
> 2. We can have somebody on the hook to do the same before we release.
>
> Now, I *might* be able to get some free EC2 credits for BigTop. In which case
> I'd +1 unconditionally, since it is cheap to have free EC2 slaves ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
I already do that at least once a week (minus automated tests) for
Fedora as well as Mageia.
So I would volunteer.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm still -1 on Fedora for 0.2.0, but would be fine with it for 0.3.0.
If we can make sure that the trunk of Bigtop builds and package test pass on
Fedora/OpenSUSE, I'd be willing to +1 Bruno's original proposal given that:
1. We can have somebody on the hook to run builds/tests there at
least once a week
and fix the problems there.
2. We can have somebody on the hook to do the same before we release.
Now, I *might* be able to get some free EC2 credits for BigTop. In which case
I'd +1 unconditionally, since it is cheap to have free EC2 slaves ;-)
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Everything already works on Fedora.
That takes care of my top-level concern.
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 04:22 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> We're voting on terminology here, so I think it is important to be clear -
> "can't commit if it breaks X" means what it says. If you mean something
> else, you should word it differently. =)
Ok, I will rephrase that part.
> I'm still -1 on Fedora for 0.2.0, but would be fine with it for 0.3.0.
Everything already works on Fedora. So there is no more work involved
for 0.2.0 as there would be for 0.3.0.
See http://www.bmahe.net/repos/BigTop/ (I have rebuilt everything this
week end, but haven't had time to rsync my local repository)
> A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 09/06/2011 02:00 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>>
>> Yup, which is why we need good review, and why it'd be nice to eventually
>> get testpatch stuff working for all the supported releases, but we don't
>> have that yet, and I don't think we can reasonably mandate that everyone run
>> local builds of everything on all platforms all the time, etc.
>>
>>
>> It's more about the intent than taking things literally. Unless I need to
>> write proposals in lawyers terms?
>> Until we get the testpatch infrastructure running, we still need to be
>> extra careful about what gets checked in. And we can always change our
>> policy in that regard.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm also -1 on Fedora currently - not sure what we gain by building on
>> there, really. Maybe for 0.3.0, but for now, I'd say we should just add the
>> one new supported platform in OpenSUSE.
>>
>>
>> Even though Fedora is RPM based (as CentOS and openSUSE), it is still
>> different enough from CentOS.
>> Furthermore I have also seen a bunch of tickets from people trying to get
>> hadoop working from their Fedora, which denotes some interest in this
>> platform.
>>
>>
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> We can't have perfect patches and things will break. But have to make
>>> sure they get fixed rather sooner than later.
>>> Otherwise nothing prevents me from checking a patch and forget about it
>>> and block releases until someone else feels to fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/06/2011 01:47 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>>>> -1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those OSes -
>>> the
>>>> important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those OSes are
>>>> busted.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>>>>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>>>>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>>>>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>>>>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>>>>
>>>>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>>> OSes.
>>>>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>>>>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>>>>> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>>>>> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
We're voting on terminology here, so I think it is important to be clear -
"can't commit if it breaks X" means what it says. If you mean something
else, you should word it differently. =)
I'm still -1 on Fedora for 0.2.0, but would be fine with it for 0.3.0.
A.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 02:00 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>
> Yup, which is why we need good review, and why it'd be nice to eventually
> get testpatch stuff working for all the supported releases, but we don't
> have that yet, and I don't think we can reasonably mandate that everyone run
> local builds of everything on all platforms all the time, etc.
>
>
> It's more about the intent than taking things literally. Unless I need to
> write proposals in lawyers terms?
> Until we get the testpatch infrastructure running, we still need to be
> extra careful about what gets checked in. And we can always change our
> policy in that regard.
>
>
>
> I'm also -1 on Fedora currently - not sure what we gain by building on
> there, really. Maybe for 0.3.0, but for now, I'd say we should just add the
> one new supported platform in OpenSUSE.
>
>
> Even though Fedora is RPM based (as CentOS and openSUSE), it is still
> different enough from CentOS.
> Furthermore I have also seen a bunch of tickets from people trying to get
> hadoop working from their Fedora, which denotes some interest in this
> platform.
>
>
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> We can't have perfect patches and things will break. But have to make
>> sure they get fixed rather sooner than later.
>> Otherwise nothing prevents me from checking a patch and forget about it
>> and block releases until someone else feels to fix it.
>>
>>
>> On 09/06/2011 01:47 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>> > -1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those OSes -
>> the
>> > important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those OSes are
>> > busted.
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>> >>
>> >> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> >> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>> >> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>> >> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>> >> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>> >>
>> >> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
>> OSes.
>> >> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>> >> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>> >> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>> >> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 02:00 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> Yup, which is why we need good review, and why it'd be nice to
> eventually get testpatch stuff working for all the supported releases,
> but we don't have that yet, and I don't think we can reasonably
> mandate that everyone run local builds of everything on all platforms
> all the time, etc.
>
It's more about the intent than taking things literally. Unless I need
to write proposals in lawyers terms?
Until we get the testpatch infrastructure running, we still need to be
extra careful about what gets checked in. And we can always change our
policy in that regard.
> I'm also -1 on Fedora currently - not sure what we gain by building on
> there, really. Maybe for 0.3.0, but for now, I'd say we should just
> add the one new supported platform in OpenSUSE.
Even though Fedora is RPM based (as CentOS and openSUSE), it is still
different enough from CentOS.
Furthermore I have also seen a bunch of tickets from people trying to
get hadoop working from their Fedora, which denotes some interest in
this platform.
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> We can't have perfect patches and things will break. But have to make
> sure they get fixed rather sooner than later.
> Otherwise nothing prevents me from checking a patch and forget
> about it
> and block releases until someone else feels to fix it.
>
>
> On 09/06/2011 01:47 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> > -1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those
> OSes - the
> > important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those
> OSes are
> > busted.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bmahe@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling
> a vote.
> >>
> >> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> >> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> >> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> >> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> >> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >>
> >> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of
> these OSes.
> >> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that
> component
> >> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >>
> >>
> >> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain
> any other
> >> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >>
> >>
> >> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the
> committers
> >> or mentors list at
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Yup, which is why we need good review, and why it'd be nice to eventually
get testpatch stuff working for all the supported releases, but we don't
have that yet, and I don't think we can reasonably mandate that everyone run
local builds of everything on all platforms all the time, etc.
I'm also -1 on Fedora currently - not sure what we gain by building on
there, really. Maybe for 0.3.0, but for now, I'd say we should just add the
one new supported platform in OpenSUSE.
A.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> We can't have perfect patches and things will break. But have to make
> sure they get fixed rather sooner than later.
> Otherwise nothing prevents me from checking a patch and forget about it
> and block releases until someone else feels to fix it.
>
>
> On 09/06/2011 01:47 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> > -1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those OSes -
> the
> > important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those OSes are
> > busted.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
> >>
> >> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> >> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> >> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> >> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> >> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
> >>
> >> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these
> OSes.
> >> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> >> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> >>
> >>
> >> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> >> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
> >>
> >>
> >> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> >> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
We can't have perfect patches and things will break. But have to make
sure they get fixed rather sooner than later.
Otherwise nothing prevents me from checking a patch and forget about it
and block releases until someone else feels to fix it.
On 09/06/2011 01:47 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> -1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those OSes - the
> important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those OSes are
> busted.
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>>
>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>
>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>>
>>
>> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
>> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>>
>>
>> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
>> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
-1 on saying we can't check in a patch that breaks one of those OSes - the
important thing is that we can't *release* when any of those OSes are
busted.
A.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>
> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
>
>
> This does not preclude anyone to add support for or maintain any other
> platform, but this would not be a requirement for BigTop.
>
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours, and is open to anyone on the committers
> or mentors list at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bigtop.html.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org>.
On 09/06/2011 01:46 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>>
>> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
>> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
>> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
> Makes sense.
>
>> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
>> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>>
>> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
>> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
>> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
> Now for the above 2 I'm not sure we have the muscle (yet) to increase
> the build/testing matrix.
>
> What do we want to do about it?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
I can do build/tests on my VMs every X days and report results until we
get this situation sorted out. Or hook it up temporarily for
builds/tests every X days.
Re: [VOTE] Official list of supported platforms
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruno Mahé <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given no one has objected to the previous thread, I am calling a vote.
>
> So let's vote on adopting the following set of platforms:
> * Latest released CentOS (currently 6.0)
> * Latest released Ubuntu LTS (currently 10.04)
Makes sense.
> * Latest released OpenSUSE (currently 11.4)
> * Latest released Fedora (currently 15)
>
> This means we can't check in any patch that will break any of these OSes.
> It also means we can't upgrade a component of BigTop if that component
> cannot be built or tested on all of these OSes.
Now for the above 2 I'm not sure we have the muscle (yet) to increase
the build/testing matrix.
What do we want to do about it?
Thanks,
Roman.