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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> on 2011/08/04 17:08:34 UTC

Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Hi all guys and sorry for have overlooked that discussion.
A GT is what I really wish see realized :) I spoke also with Francesco
via chat and we both agreed/wish on give new energy to C3 promoting a
GT.

I tried to go to Vienna last year to meet Reinhard and Steven, but
unfortunately didn't have enough budget to go (here in Italy salaries
are not at EU level - unless you are a Politician :P) :(

I would like - just my wish - to propose the University of L'Aquila
(Italy) as next Cocoon3 GT for 2 main reason (3, since it is the city
when I was born :P ):

 * on April 6, 2009, it was partially destroyed by a earthquake[1] and
it's still in terrible conditions - so organizing a so great event
would hopefully attract the interest

 * because of it, the University lost a lot of students, we could
maybe help them attracting guys

It is just a prototypal idea, I should speak with people I'm still in
touch there before doing a real proposal... anyway, how does it sound?
TIA, all the best!!!
Simo

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_L'Aquila_earthquake

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Lars Huttar <la...@sil.org> wrote:
> On 7/18/2011 4:49 PM, Lars Huttar wrote:
>> As we've been talking about Cocoon "Do-ocracy" and community
>> contributions, my mind turns to my past attempts to help develop Cocoon,
>> and the vast gap that seems to yawn between me and being able to
>> contribute effectively. While I would love to be able to contribute,
>> there is quite a stack of technologies that seem to require mastery
>> first... e.g. Maven, Wicket, Spring...?
>>
>> I suspect that much of this would be reduced if I could sit down and be
>> walked through a process with a knowledgeable person who can tell me
>> what I do and don't need to learn, and of whom I could ask targeted
>> questions.
>>
>> And that leads me to ask, what are the possibilities of a Cocoon
>> GetTogether this year? next year?
>> (The sooner the better, as far as I'm concerned!)
>>
>> AFAIK the last GT was in 2005? The hackathon sounded very productive.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lars
>>
>
> (Sorry for not replying directly to others' replies, but I don't seem to
> be receiving them in my inbox (I read them at
> http://cocoon.markmail.org/search/?q=#query:+page:1+mid:yucxttvietp2ukac+state:results).)
>
> Given that there may not be enough people and sponsorship for a Cocoon
> GT, what about some kind of virtual GT?
> I.e. a concentrated time of group web presence.
>
> We could still have presentations, Q&A, hackathon, maybe using audio
> channel such as Blink/Mumble/TeamSpeak...
>
> For me, the most valuable part would be a tutorial on getting up to
> speed on Cocoon development... with the minimum grounding in
> Maven/Wicket/Spring/Java servlet technologies required, and with plenty
> of opportunity to ask questions. A couple of simple "hello world"
> tutorials would be worth a lot.
>
> Regards,
> Lars
>
>
>
>

Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Francesco, you stole the words from my mouth :)
Arrosticini FTW :D
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 05:08 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>
>> Hi all guys and sorry for have overlooked that discussion.
>> A GT is what I really wish see realized :) I spoke also with Francesco
>> via chat and we both agreed/wish on give new energy to C3 promoting a
>> GT.
>>
>> I tried to go to Vienna last year to meet Reinhard and Steven, but
>> unfortunately didn't have enough budget to go (here in Italy salaries
>> are not at EU level - unless you are a Politician :P) :(
>>
>> I would like - just my wish - to propose the University of L'Aquila
>> (Italy) as next Cocoon3 GT for 2 main reason (3, since it is the city
>> when I was born :P ):
>>
>>  * on April 6, 2009, it was partially destroyed by a earthquake[1] and
>> it's still in terrible conditions - so organizing a so great event
>> would hopefully attract the interest
>>
>>  * because of it, the University lost a lot of students, we could
>> maybe help them attracting guys
>>
>> It is just a prototypal idea, I should speak with people I'm still in
>> touch there before doing a real proposal... anyway, how does it sound?
>> TIA, all the best!!!
>
> It would be great to have another CocoonGT in Italy. +1 from me!
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz         Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa and Deepsearch
>                        http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member                  reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>      Furthermore, I think Oracle has to honor the JSPA agreement.
>    http://s.apache.org/JCPIsDead       http://s.apache.org/tck-trap
>

Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
On 08/04/2011 05:08 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi all guys and sorry for have overlooked that discussion.
> A GT is what I really wish see realized :) I spoke also with Francesco
> via chat and we both agreed/wish on give new energy to C3 promoting a
> GT.
>
> I tried to go to Vienna last year to meet Reinhard and Steven, but
> unfortunately didn't have enough budget to go (here in Italy salaries
> are not at EU level - unless you are a Politician :P) :(
>
> I would like - just my wish - to propose the University of L'Aquila
> (Italy) as next Cocoon3 GT for 2 main reason (3, since it is the city
> when I was born :P ):
>
>   * on April 6, 2009, it was partially destroyed by a earthquake[1] and
> it's still in terrible conditions - so organizing a so great event
> would hopefully attract the interest
>
>   * because of it, the University lost a lot of students, we could
> maybe help them attracting guys
>
> It is just a prototypal idea, I should speak with people I'm still in
> touch there before doing a real proposal... anyway, how does it sound?
> TIA, all the best!!!

It would be great to have another CocoonGT in Italy. +1 from me!

-- 
Reinhard Pötz         Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa and Deepsearch
                         http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html

Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member                  reinhard@apache.org
________________________________________________________________________

       Furthermore, I think Oracle has to honor the JSPA agreement.
     http://s.apache.org/JCPIsDead       http://s.apache.org/tck-trap

Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 05/08/2011 12:01, Nathaniel, Alfred wrote:
> Please plan it as a 2-day event with a late morning start on day1 and an early afternoon finish on day2 that one can fly in and out with one overnight stay for the social GT.

I think this is a good suggestion: consider that you can reach L'Aquila 
either by flying to Pescara or Rome, then by car or bus (approximatively 
1 hour).

> NB traditional GT dinner is spare ribs.  Do you have those in L'Aquila?

You can always find spare ribs if you are addicted enough :-P
Anyway, Abruzzo - the region in which L'Aquila [2] is - is known, 
especially from its past, for Arrosticini [1]: I think you wouldn't 
regret the change...

Cheers.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrosticini
[2] http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
> Sent: Freitag, 5. August 2011 08:14
> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Cocoon GetTogether?
>
> Hi Simone,
> as per our recent discussion about this topic, I would personally love
> this Cocoon GT in L'Aquila :-)
>
> If other people agree, I can of course help organizing, either
> personally and by contacting some people at the University - it has been
> my University too :-P.
>
> Gents, WDYT?
>
>
> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed.
> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately.
> Thank you.
-- 
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Apache Cocoon Committer and PMC Member
http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/


RE: Cocoon GetTogether?

Posted by "Nathaniel, Alfred" <Al...@six-group.com>.
Please plan it as a 2-day event with a late morning start on day1 and
an early afternoon finish on day2 that one can fly in and out with
one overnight stay for the social GT.

NB traditional GT dinner is spare ribs.  Do you have those in L'Aquila?

Cheers, Alfred.

-----Original Message-----
From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org] 
Sent: Freitag, 5. August 2011 08:14
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Hi Simone,
as per our recent discussion about this topic, I would personally love 
this Cocoon GT in L'Aquila :-)

If other people agree, I can of course help organizing, either 
personally and by contacting some people at the University - it has been 
my University too :-P.

Gents, WDYT?


The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately.
Thank you.

Re: Cocoon GetTogether?

Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 04/08/2011 17:08, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi all guys and sorry for have overlooked that discussion.
> A GT is what I really wish see realized :) I spoke also with Francesco via chat and we both agreed/wish on give new energy to C3 promoting a GT.
>
> I tried to go to Vienna last year to meet Reinhard and Steven, but unfortunately didn't have enough budget to go (here in Italy salaries are not at EU level - unless you are a Politician :P) :(
>
> I would like - just my wish - to propose the University of L'Aquila (Italy) as next Cocoon3 GT for 2 main reason (3, since it is the city when I was born :P ):
>
>   * on April 6, 2009, it was partially destroyed by a earthquake[1] and it's still in terrible conditions - so organizing a so great event would hopefully attract the interest
>
>   * because of it, the University lost a lot of students, we could maybe help them attracting guys
>
> It is just a prototypal idea, I should speak with people I'm still in touch there before doing a real proposal... anyway, how does it sound?

Hi Simone,
as per our recent discussion about this topic, I would personally love 
this Cocoon GT in L'Aquila :-)

If other people agree, I can of course help organizing, either 
personally and by contacting some people at the University - it has been 
my University too :-P.

Gents, WDYT?

> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Lars Huttar<la...@sil.org>  wrote:
>> On 7/18/2011 4:49 PM, Lars Huttar wrote:
>>> As we've been talking about Cocoon "Do-ocracy" and community
>>> contributions, my mind turns to my past attempts to help develop Cocoon,
>>> and the vast gap that seems to yawn between me and being able to
>>> contribute effectively. While I would love to be able to contribute,
>>> there is quite a stack of technologies that seem to require mastery
>>> first... e.g. Maven, Wicket, Spring...?
>>>
>>> I suspect that much of this would be reduced if I could sit down and be
>>> walked through a process with a knowledgeable person who can tell me
>>> what I do and don't need to learn, and of whom I could ask targeted
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> And that leads me to ask, what are the possibilities of a Cocoon
>>> GetTogether this year? next year?
>>> (The sooner the better, as far as I'm concerned!)
>>>
>>> AFAIK the last GT was in 2005? The hackathon sounded very productive.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Lars
>> (Sorry for not replying directly to others' replies, but I don't seem to
>> be receiving them in my inbox (I read them at
>> http://cocoon.markmail.org/search/?q=#query:+page:1+mid:yucxttvietp2ukac+state:results).)
>>
>> Given that there may not be enough people and sponsorship for a Cocoon
>> GT, what about some kind of virtual GT?
>> I.e. a concentrated time of group web presence.
>>
>> We could still have presentations, Q&A, hackathon, maybe using audio
>> channel such as Blink/Mumble/TeamSpeak...
>>
>> For me, the most valuable part would be a tutorial on getting up to
>> speed on Cocoon development... with the minimum grounding in
>> Maven/Wicket/Spring/Java servlet technologies required, and with plenty
>> of opportunity to ask questions. A couple of simple "hello world"
>> tutorials would be worth a lot.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lars
-- 
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Apache Cocoon Committer and PMC Member
http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/