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[DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
https://cordova.apache.org
Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-13126
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> File it!
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is that concensus? Time to file an issue? I love :knife:'ing code
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
>> wrote:
>> > +1 to drop it
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Simon MacDonald <
>> simon.macdonald@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 to drop it.
>> >>
>> >> Simon Mac Donald
>> >> http://simonmacdonald.com
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > +1 drop it altogether.
>> >> > We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't
>> >> have
>> >> > the time nor desire to do so IMO.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was
>> >> proposed
>> >> > > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
>> >> > > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
>> >> > ionic-showcase
>> >> > > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let
>> >> the
>> >> > > > downstreams do the marketing.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> >> > > > risingj.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
>> >> > > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I
>> think
>> >> > users
>> >> > > > can
>> >> > > > > benefit of it.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com>
>> >> > escribió:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream
>> projects
>> >> > get
>> >> > > > > more
>> >> > > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <
>> maj.fil@gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already
>> >> sinking
>> >> > > > under
>> >> > > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining
>> the
>> >> > > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream
>> >> projects
>> >> > > do
>> >> > > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does
>> >> ionic.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
>> >> > > kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it
>> >> would
>> >> > > be
>> >> > > > > good
>> >> > > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes
>> to a
>> >> > 404
>> >> > > > > page.
>> >> > > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in
>> the
>> >> > US
>> >> > > > > > region,
>> >> > > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a
>> >> website
>> >> > > > > > instead).
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section
>> >> > entirely,
>> >> > > > > since
>> >> > > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some
>> subjective
>> >> > > > criteria
>> >> > > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be
>> >> rotated
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > > > new
>> >> > > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front
>> >> page.
>> >> > I
>> >> > > > like
>> >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App
>> >> gallery
>> >> > > > (akin
>> >> > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be
>> done
>> >> by
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
>> >> > > (reasonable)
>> >> > > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we
>> won’t
>> >> > > > > necessarily
>> >> > > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up
>> featuring
>> >> > > 1000
>> >> > > > > apps
>> >> > > > > > > on the front page).
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
>> >> > > > appropriate
>> >> > > > > > app
>> >> > > > > > > stores.
>> >> > > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
>> >> > > > (redirecting
>> >> > > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
>> >> > > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s
>> being
>> >> > > > > featured
>> >> > > > > > > on the front page.
>> >> > > > > > > > * The app itself should:
>> >> > > > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
>> >> > > subjective,
>> >> > > > > but
>> >> > > > > > > no getting around that…)
>> >> > > > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone
>> downloading &
>> >> > > > testing
>> >> > > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
>> >> > > > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user
>> input,
>> >> > etc.)
>> >> > > > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
>> >> > > > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
>> >> > > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
>> >> > > > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the
>> >> app)
>> >> > > > > > > > * Multiple platform support
>> >> > > > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a
>> >> good
>> >> > > > feel
>> >> > > > > > for
>> >> > > > > > > a performant Cordova app
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you
>> >> > will.
>> >> > > > :-)
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > ~ Kerri
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
>> >> > > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind
>> request to
>> >> > > dev@
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
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>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
File it!
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is that concensus? Time to file an issue? I love :knife:'ing code
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
> wrote:
> > +1 to drop it
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Simon MacDonald <
> simon.macdonald@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 to drop it.
> >>
> >> Simon Mac Donald
> >> http://simonmacdonald.com
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1 drop it altogether.
> >> > We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't
> >> have
> >> > the time nor desire to do so IMO.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was
> >> proposed
> >> > > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
> >> > > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
> >> > ionic-showcase
> >> > > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let
> >> the
> >> > > > downstreams do the marketing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > @purplecabbage
> >> > > > risingj.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
> >> > > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I
> think
> >> > users
> >> > > > can
> >> > > > > benefit of it.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com>
> >> > escribió:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream
> projects
> >> > get
> >> > > > > more
> >> > > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <
> maj.fil@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already
> >> sinking
> >> > > > under
> >> > > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining
> the
> >> > > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream
> >> projects
> >> > > do
> >> > > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does
> >> ionic.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
> >> > > kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it
> >> would
> >> > > be
> >> > > > > good
> >> > > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes
> to a
> >> > 404
> >> > > > > page.
> >> > > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in
> the
> >> > US
> >> > > > > > region,
> >> > > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a
> >> website
> >> > > > > > instead).
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section
> >> > entirely,
> >> > > > > since
> >> > > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some
> subjective
> >> > > > criteria
> >> > > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be
> >> rotated
> >> > > as
> >> > > > > new
> >> > > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front
> >> page.
> >> > I
> >> > > > like
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App
> >> gallery
> >> > > > (akin
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be
> done
> >> by
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
> >> > > (reasonable)
> >> > > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we
> won’t
> >> > > > > necessarily
> >> > > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up
> featuring
> >> > > 1000
> >> > > > > apps
> >> > > > > > > on the front page).
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
> >> > > > appropriate
> >> > > > > > app
> >> > > > > > > stores.
> >> > > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
> >> > > > (redirecting
> >> > > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> >> > > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s
> being
> >> > > > > featured
> >> > > > > > > on the front page.
> >> > > > > > > > * The app itself should:
> >> > > > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
> >> > > subjective,
> >> > > > > but
> >> > > > > > > no getting around that…)
> >> > > > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone
> downloading &
> >> > > > testing
> >> > > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> >> > > > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user
> input,
> >> > etc.)
> >> > > > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> >> > > > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> >> > > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> >> > > > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the
> >> app)
> >> > > > > > > > * Multiple platform support
> >> > > > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a
> >> good
> >> > > > feel
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > a performant Cordova app
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you
> >> > will.
> >> > > > :-)
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > ~ Kerri
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> >> > > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind
> request to
> >> > > dev@
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> ------------------------------
> >> > > > ---------
> >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>.
Is that concensus? Time to file an issue? I love :knife:'ing code
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote:
> +1 to drop it
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Simon MacDonald <simon.macdonald@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> +1 to drop it.
>>
>> Simon Mac Donald
>> http://simonmacdonald.com
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > +1 drop it altogether.
>> > We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't
>> have
>> > the time nor desire to do so IMO.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was
>> proposed
>> > > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
>> > > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
>> > ionic-showcase
>> > > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let
>> the
>> > > > downstreams do the marketing.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > @purplecabbage
>> > > > risingj.com
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
>> > > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think
>> > users
>> > > > can
>> > > > > benefit of it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > escribió:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects
>> > get
>> > > > > more
>> > > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already
>> sinking
>> > > > under
>> > > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
>> > > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream
>> projects
>> > > do
>> > > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does
>> ionic.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
>> > > kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it
>> would
>> > > be
>> > > > > good
>> > > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a
>> > 404
>> > > > > page.
>> > > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the
>> > US
>> > > > > > region,
>> > > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a
>> website
>> > > > > > instead).
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section
>> > entirely,
>> > > > > since
>> > > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective
>> > > > criteria
>> > > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be
>> rotated
>> > > as
>> > > > > new
>> > > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front
>> page.
>> > I
>> > > > like
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App
>> gallery
>> > > > (akin
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done
>> by
>> > > the
>> > > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
>> > > (reasonable)
>> > > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
>> > > > > necessarily
>> > > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring
>> > > 1000
>> > > > > apps
>> > > > > > > on the front page).
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
>> > > > appropriate
>> > > > > > app
>> > > > > > > stores.
>> > > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
>> > > > (redirecting
>> > > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
>> > > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
>> > > > > featured
>> > > > > > > on the front page.
>> > > > > > > > * The app itself should:
>> > > > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
>> > > subjective,
>> > > > > but
>> > > > > > > no getting around that…)
>> > > > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading &
>> > > > testing
>> > > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
>> > > > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input,
>> > etc.)
>> > > > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
>> > > > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
>> > > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
>> > > > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the
>> app)
>> > > > > > > > * Multiple platform support
>> > > > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a
>> good
>> > > > feel
>> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > a performant Cordova app
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you
>> > will.
>> > > > :-)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ~ Kerri
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
>> > > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to
>> > > dev@
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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>> > > > ---------
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>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>.
+1 to drop it
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Simon MacDonald <simon.macdonald@gmail.com
> wrote:
> +1 to drop it.
>
> Simon Mac Donald
> http://simonmacdonald.com
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 drop it altogether.
> > We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't
> have
> > the time nor desire to do so IMO.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was
> proposed
> > > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
> > > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
> > ionic-showcase
> > > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let
> the
> > > > downstreams do the marketing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > risingj.com
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
> > > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think
> > users
> > > > can
> > > > > benefit of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects
> > get
> > > > > more
> > > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already
> sinking
> > > > under
> > > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream
> projects
> > > do
> > > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does
> ionic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
> > > kerrishotts@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it
> would
> > > be
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a
> > 404
> > > > > page.
> > > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the
> > US
> > > > > > region,
> > > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a
> website
> > > > > > instead).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section
> > entirely,
> > > > > since
> > > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective
> > > > criteria
> > > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be
> rotated
> > > as
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front
> page.
> > I
> > > > like
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App
> gallery
> > > > (akin
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
> > > (reasonable)
> > > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
> > > > > necessarily
> > > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring
> > > 1000
> > > > > apps
> > > > > > > on the front page).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
> > > > appropriate
> > > > > > app
> > > > > > > stores.
> > > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
> > > > (redirecting
> > > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
> > > > > featured
> > > > > > > on the front page.
> > > > > > > > * The app itself should:
> > > > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
> > > subjective,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > no getting around that…)
> > > > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading &
> > > > testing
> > > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input,
> > etc.)
> > > > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the
> app)
> > > > > > > > * Multiple platform support
> > > > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a
> good
> > > > feel
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > a performant Cordova app
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you
> > will.
> > > > :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ~ Kerri
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to
> > > dev@
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------
> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
+1 to drop it.
Simon Mac Donald
http://simonmacdonald.com
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 drop it altogether.
> We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't have
> the time nor desire to do so IMO.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was proposed
> > for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to dropping it from cordova
> > > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and
> ionic-showcase
> > > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let the
> > > downstreams do the marketing.
> > >
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > risingj.com
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
> > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think
> users
> > > can
> > > > benefit of it.
> > > >
> > > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects
> get
> > > > more
> > > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking
> > > under
> > > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects
> > do
> > > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
> > kerrishotts@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would
> > be
> > > > good
> > > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a
> 404
> > > > page.
> > > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the
> US
> > > > > region,
> > > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website
> > > > > instead).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section
> entirely,
> > > > since
> > > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective
> > > criteria
> > > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated
> > as
> > > > new
> > > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page.
> I
> > > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery
> > > (akin
> > > > to
> > > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by
> > the
> > > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
> > (reasonable)
> > > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
> > > > necessarily
> > > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring
> > 1000
> > > > apps
> > > > > > on the front page).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some starting criteria:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
> > > appropriate
> > > > > app
> > > > > > stores.
> > > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
> > > (redirecting
> > > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
> > > > featured
> > > > > > on the front page.
> > > > > > > * The app itself should:
> > > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
> > subjective,
> > > > but
> > > > > > no getting around that…)
> > > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading &
> > > testing
> > > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input,
> etc.)
> > > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > > > > > > * Multiple platform support
> > > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good
> > > feel
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a performant Cordova app
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you
> will.
> > > :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ~ Kerri
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to
> > dev@
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ---------
> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
+1 drop it altogether.
We can't be the arbiter of what's good or bad, and of course we don't have
the time nor desire to do so IMO.
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was proposed
> for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 to dropping it from cordova
> > Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and ionic-showcase
> > pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let the
> > downstreams do the marketing.
> >
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
> > jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think users
> > can
> > > benefit of it.
> > >
> > > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> escribió:
> > >
> > > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects get
> > > more
> > > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking
> > under
> > > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects
> do
> > > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <
> kerrishotts@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would
> be
> > > good
> > > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404
> > > page.
> > > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US
> > > > region,
> > > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website
> > > > instead).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely,
> > > since
> > > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective
> > criteria
> > > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated
> as
> > > new
> > > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery
> > (akin
> > > to
> > > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by
> the
> > > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some
> (reasonable)
> > > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
> > > necessarily
> > > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring
> 1000
> > > apps
> > > > > on the front page).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some starting criteria:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
> > appropriate
> > > > app
> > > > > stores.
> > > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
> > (redirecting
> > > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
> > > featured
> > > > > on the front page.
> > > > > > * The app itself should:
> > > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is
> subjective,
> > > but
> > > > > no getting around that…)
> > > > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading &
> > testing
> > > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> > > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > > > > > * Multiple platform support
> > > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good
> > feel
> > > > for
> > > > > a performant Cordova app
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will.
> > :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~ Kerri
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to
> dev@
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------
> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
+1000 I was strongly against having an app showcase when it was proposed
for the new site. Nobody ever wants to maintain it.
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to dropping it from cordova
> Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and ionic-showcase
> pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let the
> downstreams do the marketing.
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
> jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think users
> can
> > benefit of it.
> >
> > El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >
> > > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects get
> > more
> > > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking
> under
> > > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects do
> > > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be
> > good
> > > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404
> > page.
> > > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US
> > > region,
> > > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website
> > > instead).
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely,
> > since
> > > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective
> criteria
> > > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as
> > new
> > > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I
> like
> > > the
> > > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery
> (akin
> > to
> > > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the
> > > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable)
> > > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
> > necessarily
> > > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000
> > apps
> > > > on the front page).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some starting criteria:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the
> appropriate
> > > app
> > > > stores.
> > > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link
> (redirecting
> > > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
> > featured
> > > > on the front page.
> > > > > * The app itself should:
> > > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective,
> > but
> > > > no getting around that…)
> > > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading &
> testing
> > > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> > > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > > > > * Multiple platform support
> > > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good
> feel
> > > for
> > > > a performant Cordova app
> > > > >
> > > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will.
> :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ Kerri
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
+1 to dropping it from cordova
Let's just link to phonegap-showcase, onsenui-showcase and ionic-showcase
pages ... I think we should focus on being the best engine and let the
downstreams do the marketing.
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:43 PM, julio cesar sanchez <
jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think users can
> benefit of it.
>
> El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> > +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects get
> more
> > benefit from this than we do, IMO.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking under
> > > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> > >
> > > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects do
> > > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be
> good
> > > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404
> page.
> > > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US
> > region,
> > > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website
> > instead).
> > > >
> > > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely,
> since
> > > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective criteria
> > > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as
> new
> > > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I like
> > the
> > > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery (akin
> to
> > > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the
> > > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > > >
> > > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable)
> > > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t
> necessarily
> > > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000
> apps
> > > on the front page).
> > > >
> > > > Some starting criteria:
> > > >
> > > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the appropriate
> > app
> > > stores.
> > > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link (redirecting
> > > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being
> featured
> > > on the front page.
> > > > * The app itself should:
> > > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective,
> but
> > > no getting around that…)
> > > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading & testing
> > > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> > > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > > > * Multiple platform support
> > > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good feel
> > for
> > > a performant Cordova app
> > > >
> > > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will. :-)
> > > >
> > > > ~ Kerri
> > > >
> > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>.
I liked Kerri's idea about only posting open source apps. I think users can
benefit of it.
El 25 jul. 2017 7:52 p. m., "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> escribió:
> +1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects get more
> benefit from this than we do, IMO.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking under
> > the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> > tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
> >
> > I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects do
> > that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be good
> > to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404 page.
> > Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US
> region,
> > so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website
> instead).
> > >
> > > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely, since
> > it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective criteria
> > (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as new
> > apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I like
> the
> > idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery (akin to
> > Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the
> > community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> > >
> > > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable)
> > criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t necessarily
> > always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000 apps
> > on the front page).
> > >
> > > Some starting criteria:
> > >
> > > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the appropriate
> app
> > stores.
> > > * The product needs to have a website where we can link (redirecting
> > into iTunes is not ideal).
> > > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being featured
> > on the front page.
> > > * The app itself should:
> > > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective, but
> > no getting around that…)
> > > * actually work (this would require someone downloading & testing
> > it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> > > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > > * Multiple platform support
> > > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good feel
> for
> > a performant Cordova app
> > >
> > > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will. :-)
> > >
> > > ~ Kerri
> > >
> > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> https://cordova.apache.org
> > >>
> > >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> > >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
> > >
> >
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> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
+1 to no longer supporting the Apps section. Downstream projects get more
benefit from this than we do, IMO.
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking under
> the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
> tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
>
> I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects do
> that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be good
> to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404 page.
> Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US region,
> so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website instead).
> >
> > Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely, since
> it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective criteria
> (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as new
> apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I like the
> idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery (akin to
> Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the
> community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
> >
> > That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable)
> criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t necessarily
> always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000 apps
> on the front page).
> >
> > Some starting criteria:
> >
> > * Should currently be available for sale/download on the appropriate app
> stores.
> > * The product needs to have a website where we can link (redirecting
> into iTunes is not ideal).
> > * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being featured
> on the front page.
> > * The app itself should:
> > * be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective, but
> no getting around that…)
> > * actually work (this would require someone downloading & testing
> it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> > * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> > * be in production (not just a demo app)
> > * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> > * Plusses for (but not required):
> > * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> > * Multiple platform support
> > * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good feel for
> a performant Cordova app
> >
> > Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will. :-)
> >
> > ~ Kerri
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> https://cordova.apache.org
> >>
> >> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> >> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
> >
>
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>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Filip Maj <ma...@gmail.com>.
I'm of the opinion that we, the cordova devs are already sinking under
the amount of incoming PRs and TODOs just with maintaining the
tooling, platforms, plugins, and docs.
I think it would be better to turf it and let downstream projects do
that stuff if they wish. I think PhoneGap has one, so does ionic.
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be good to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404 page. Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US region, so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website instead).
>
> Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely, since it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective criteria (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as new apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I like the idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery (akin to Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
>
> That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable) criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t necessarily always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000 apps on the front page).
>
> Some starting criteria:
>
> * Should currently be available for sale/download on the appropriate app stores.
> * The product needs to have a website where we can link (redirecting into iTunes is not ideal).
> * The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being featured on the front page.
> * The app itself should:
> * be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective, but no getting around that…)
> * actually work (this would require someone downloading & testing it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
> * be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
> * be in production (not just a demo app)
> * be more than just wrapping a remote website
> * Plusses for (but not required):
> * Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
> * Multiple platform support
> * Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good feel for a performant Cordova app
>
> Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will. :-)
>
> ~ Kerri
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> https://cordova.apache.org
>>
>> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
>> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting new apps into the App Showcase
Posted by Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>.
If we’re going to have an apps section on the website, it would be good to keep it updated. For example, the ReactEurope app goes to a 404 page. Buildr navigates to an iTunes page that is not available in the US region, so doesn’t tell me anything (would be better to link to a website instead).
Personally, it might be better just to drop the section entirely, since it will require maintenance, would end up with some subjective criteria (leading to “why them and not us?”), and would need to be rotated as new apps are added to prevent a huge list of apps on the front page. I like the idea, but maybe it would be better to have a Cordova App gallery (akin to Plugin search, cocoapods, etc.)… but that could easily be done by the community, since we’re tight on resources as it is.
That said, if we’re going to accept apps, we need some (reasonable) criteria for acceptance, along with the proviso that we won’t necessarily always feature the app (since we don’t want to end up featuring 1000 apps on the front page).
Some starting criteria:
* Should currently be available for sale/download on the appropriate app stores.
* The product needs to have a website where we can link (redirecting into iTunes is not ideal).
* The product should fit with Cordova’s CoC, since it’s being featured on the front page.
* The app itself should:
* be visually appealing and well designed (this is subjective, but no getting around that…)
* actually work (this would require someone downloading & testing it. Paid apps would need to supply a review copy for free.)
* be performant (no jank, quick response to user input, etc.)
* be in production (not just a demo app)
* be more than just wrapping a remote website
* Plusses for (but not required):
* Available source code (so others can learn from the app)
* Multiple platform support
* Free or usable trial version so that users can get a good feel for a performant Cordova app
Those are just off the top of my head, so take them as you will. :-)
~ Kerri
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 19:24, Shazron <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> https://cordova.apache.org
>
> Are we still accepting apps? How do we select?
> Right now there are 12. This relates to the Xmind request to dev@