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Posted to dev@calcite.apache.org by Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> on 2014/08/04 21:13:52 UTC
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Let’s go for a date early in September. That will give us time to get 0.9.0 out, and will also enable some Hive developers to participate.
I have an offsite on September 9th, but plenty of other days would work — say 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, 11th. Do any of those work for you?
Julian
On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Oops... sorry about the wrong list. What do you think about doing a
> hackathon August 12th? If that won't work with your release goals, how
> about on September 9th?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
>
>> (Replying to dev@apache, bcc optiq-dev@googlegroups.com. I’m fairly sure
>> Jacques intended to post to dev@apache.)
>>
>> Great ideas. They all help clarify what we are building and how we are
>> building it. I am +1 on each.
>>
>> Regarding 4. Given that the first release will be 0.9.0-incubating, not
>> 1.0, and I'd like to get an RC to a vote within 2 weeks, do you think that
>> the hackathon will deliver what we need? If not, I'd be excited to do a
>> hackathon shortly after 0.9.0, working towards 1.0 goals.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2014 9:11 PM, "Jacques Nadeau" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I started with a tl;dr but I decided to simplify. I have a few
>> suggestions that I think would be good (and am willing to back them up with
>> developer effort).
>>
>> 1. Let's come up with an agreed set of processes around feature design
>> docs, commits and changes to interfaces. Trying to maintain a large
>> codebase against another codebase that is constantly in flux makes things
>> very difficult.
>>
>> 2. Let's separate the optimizer from execution entirely and remove all
>> code generation from the optimizer module. With modularization, teams that
>> use only subcomponents (like the Drill team) will be able to better provide
>> test cases as they can build test cases against the interfaces they are
>> using as opposed to much higher (unknown) levels.
>>
>> 3. Let's commit to test cases for all feature patches and bug fixes. If
>> something is a shared feature, let's maintain a separate feature branch
>> until the feature is complete and test cases are provided and then pick the
>> right version to merge.
>>
>> 4. Let's do a hackathon focused on getting our first Apache release out.
>> I'll get it set up if people are in support of it.
>>
>> As I said, I'm willing to put mine and my team's effort against these
>> goals if others are on board.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Jacques
>>
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Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net>.
On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Timothy Chen <tn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I might not able to but please go ahead!
Tim,
Sorry we couldn’t schedule it so you could attend. You’ll be missed.
Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Timothy Chen <tn...@gmail.com>.
Hi Julian,
I might not able to but please go ahead!
Tim
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
> It seems that Wed 17th (a week from today) is the date that most people can attend. So, let’s go with that.
>
> The hackathon will be hosted by MapR at 2860 Zanker Rd, San Jose, and will start at 12.30pm. Mark your calendars.
>
> I’ll send a formal announcement in another thread.
>
> Julian
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:37 AM, andrew <an...@primer.org> wrote:
>
>> Any of the proposed dates would work for me. Preference would be 9/17 or 9/18. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jacques,
>>>
>>> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to. Time to arrange that hackathon!
>>>
>>> Here are some suggested dates:
>>>
>>> Tue 9/16
>>> Wed 9/17
>>> Thu 9/18
>>> Tue 9/23
>>>
>>> Which of those work for you & your team?
>>>
>>> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>>>
>>> What dates would work for you?
>>>
>>> Julian
>>
>
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net>.
It seems that Wed 17th (a week from today) is the date that most people can attend. So, let’s go with that.
The hackathon will be hosted by MapR at 2860 Zanker Rd, San Jose, and will start at 12.30pm. Mark your calendars.
I’ll send a formal announcement in another thread.
Julian
On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:37 AM, andrew <an...@primer.org> wrote:
> Any of the proposed dates would work for me. Preference would be 9/17 or 9/18. Thanks!
>
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jacques,
>>
>> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to. Time to arrange that hackathon!
>>
>> Here are some suggested dates:
>>
>> Tue 9/16
>> Wed 9/17
>> Thu 9/18
>> Tue 9/23
>>
>> Which of those work for you & your team?
>>
>> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>>
>> What dates would work for you?
>>
>> Julian
>
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by andrew <an...@primer.org>.
Any of the proposed dates would work for me. Preference would be 9/17 or 9/18. Thanks!
On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jacques,
>
> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to. Time to arrange that hackathon!
>
> Here are some suggested dates:
>
> Tue 9/16
> Wed 9/17
> Thu 9/18
> Tue 9/23
>
> Which of those work for you & your team?
>
> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>
> What dates would work for you?
>
> Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net>.
9/18 is not looking so good for me and other Hortonworkers.
My preferred date is now for 9/17.
Tim, could you do 9/17?
Julian
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Timothy Chen <tn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vote for 9/18.
>
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I'd vote for 9/17 or 9/18.
>>
>> What hours do you want to do? We have a nice new lounge that we could do
>> it in and I can get MapR to provide food/drink.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jacques,
>>>
>>> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to.
>>> Time to arrange that hackathon!
>>>
>>> Here are some suggested dates:
>>>
>>> Tue 9/16
>>> Wed 9/17
>>> Thu 9/18
>>> Tue 9/23
>>>
>>> Which of those work for you & your team?
>>>
>>> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>>>
>>> What dates would work for you?
>>>
>>> Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Timothy Chen <tn...@gmail.com>.
I vote for 9/18.
Tim
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'd vote for 9/17 or 9/18.
>
> What hours do you want to do? We have a nice new lounge that we could do
> it in and I can get MapR to provide food/drink.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jacques,
>>
>> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to.
>> Time to arrange that hackathon!
>>
>> Here are some suggested dates:
>>
>> Tue 9/16
>> Wed 9/17
>> Thu 9/18
>> Tue 9/23
>>
>> Which of those work for you & your team?
>>
>> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>>
>> What dates would work for you?
>>
>> Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>.
I'd vote for 9/17 or 9/18.
What hours do you want to do? We have a nice new lounge that we could do
it in and I can get MapR to provide food/drink.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jacques,
>
> Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to.
> Time to arrange that hackathon!
>
> Here are some suggested dates:
>
> Tue 9/16
> Wed 9/17
> Thu 9/18
> Tue 9/23
>
> Which of those work for you & your team?
>
> Other Optiq followers & developers,
>
> What dates would work for you?
>
> Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com>.
Jacques,
Optiq has just made a release and it looks like Drill is just about to. Time to arrange that hackathon!
Here are some suggested dates:
Tue 9/16
Wed 9/17
Thu 9/18
Tue 9/23
Which of those work for you & your team?
Other Optiq followers & developers,
What dates would work for you?
Julian
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by Julian Hyde <ju...@gmail.com>.
No, we haven’t decided a date.
Jacques, which of the dates I mentioned below would work for you?
Julian
On Aug 14, 2014, at 9:33 AM, andrew <an...@primer.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’ve been hacking on Otiq for a few months and would love to attend a hackathon. I can’t make the 9th or 10th. Have you decided on a date yet?
>
> Andrew
>
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
>
>> Let’s go for a date early in September. That will give us time to get 0.9.0 out, and will also enable some Hive developers to participate.
>>
>> I have an offsite on September 9th, but plenty of other days would work — say 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, 11th. Do any of those work for you?
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops... sorry about the wrong list. What do you think about doing a
>>> hackathon August 12th? If that won't work with your release goals, how
>>> about on September 9th?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Replying to dev@apache, bcc optiq-dev@googlegroups.com. I’m fairly sure
>>>> Jacques intended to post to dev@apache.)
>>>>
>>>> Great ideas. They all help clarify what we are building and how we are
>>>> building it. I am +1 on each.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding 4. Given that the first release will be 0.9.0-incubating, not
>>>> 1.0, and I'd like to get an RC to a vote within 2 weeks, do you think that
>>>> the hackathon will deliver what we need? If not, I'd be excited to do a
>>>> hackathon shortly after 0.9.0, working towards 1.0 goals.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2014 9:11 PM, "Jacques Nadeau" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> I started with a tl;dr but I decided to simplify. I have a few
>>>> suggestions that I think would be good (and am willing to back them up with
>>>> developer effort).
>>>>
>>>> 1. Let's come up with an agreed set of processes around feature design
>>>> docs, commits and changes to interfaces. Trying to maintain a large
>>>> codebase against another codebase that is constantly in flux makes things
>>>> very difficult.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Let's separate the optimizer from execution entirely and remove all
>>>> code generation from the optimizer module. With modularization, teams that
>>>> use only subcomponents (like the Drill team) will be able to better provide
>>>> test cases as they can build test cases against the interfaces they are
>>>> using as opposed to much higher (unknown) levels.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Let's commit to test cases for all feature patches and bug fixes. If
>>>> something is a shared feature, let's maintain a separate feature branch
>>>> until the feature is complete and test cases are provided and then pick the
>>>> right version to merge.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Let's do a hackathon focused on getting our first Apache release out.
>>>> I'll get it set up if people are in support of it.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I'm willing to put mine and my team's effort against these
>>>> goals if others are on board.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>>> "optiq-dev" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>>> email to optiq-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Optiq 1.0: Building a strong library
Posted by andrew <an...@primer.org>.
Hi,
I’ve been hacking on Otiq for a few months and would love to attend a hackathon. I can’t make the 9th or 10th. Have you decided on a date yet?
Andrew
On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
> Let’s go for a date early in September. That will give us time to get 0.9.0 out, and will also enable some Hive developers to participate.
>
> I have an offsite on September 9th, but plenty of other days would work — say 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, 11th. Do any of those work for you?
>
> Julian
>
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Oops... sorry about the wrong list. What do you think about doing a
>> hackathon August 12th? If that won't work with your release goals, how
>> about on September 9th?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Julian Hyde <ju...@hydromatic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> (Replying to dev@apache, bcc optiq-dev@googlegroups.com. I’m fairly sure
>>> Jacques intended to post to dev@apache.)
>>>
>>> Great ideas. They all help clarify what we are building and how we are
>>> building it. I am +1 on each.
>>>
>>> Regarding 4. Given that the first release will be 0.9.0-incubating, not
>>> 1.0, and I'd like to get an RC to a vote within 2 weeks, do you think that
>>> the hackathon will deliver what we need? If not, I'd be excited to do a
>>> hackathon shortly after 0.9.0, working towards 1.0 goals.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2014 9:11 PM, "Jacques Nadeau" <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I started with a tl;dr but I decided to simplify. I have a few
>>> suggestions that I think would be good (and am willing to back them up with
>>> developer effort).
>>>
>>> 1. Let's come up with an agreed set of processes around feature design
>>> docs, commits and changes to interfaces. Trying to maintain a large
>>> codebase against another codebase that is constantly in flux makes things
>>> very difficult.
>>>
>>> 2. Let's separate the optimizer from execution entirely and remove all
>>> code generation from the optimizer module. With modularization, teams that
>>> use only subcomponents (like the Drill team) will be able to better provide
>>> test cases as they can build test cases against the interfaces they are
>>> using as opposed to much higher (unknown) levels.
>>>
>>> 3. Let's commit to test cases for all feature patches and bug fixes. If
>>> something is a shared feature, let's maintain a separate feature branch
>>> until the feature is complete and test cases are provided and then pick the
>>> right version to merge.
>>>
>>> 4. Let's do a hackathon focused on getting our first Apache release out.
>>> I'll get it set up if people are in support of it.
>>>
>>> As I said, I'm willing to put mine and my team's effort against these
>>> goals if others are on board.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "optiq-dev" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>> email to optiq-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
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>>>
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