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GitHub user kstokoz created a discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Hi,
I have a question regarding adding/mirroring operators that are available in Akka streams in Pekko, i.e.
```
Source/Flow.mapAsyncPartitioned
Source/Flow.mapWithResource
Flow.contramap
```
It is allowed to add such to pekko? Are there any policies around mirroring functionality?
Regards,
Kyrylo
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "He-Pin (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
the mapAsyncPatition is difficulty to get right, I will put it aside for now，and thanks for the clarification.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] kstokoz added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "kstokoz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user kstokoz added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553#discussioncomment-6691997
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "He-Pin (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
@kstokoz I can port my two operators, but still a little busy at $work, But the `mapAsyncPartitioned` I don't have the copyright, so I can't, I don't know whether we can just implemented the API.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
I would suggest that you raise a Pekko issue but please don't submit a PR since it appears you have read the Akka code.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
@pjfanning I am on my way, but My wife will come to HangZhou tomorrow, so may be a little slower , and I am on my way to clean up my pending merge queue.
And can we read the `mapAsyncPartitioned` document and examples on the website?
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] gmethvin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user gmethvin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Note that we can incorporate code that is licensed as Apache or an Apache-compatible license such as MIT, as long as we provide proper attribution. For example you could look at this project: https://github.com/jaceksokol/akka-stream-map-async-partition
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning edited a comment on the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning edited a comment on the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
You can read the Akka issue for mapAsyncPartitioned but it best not to look at the PR. Any docs are ok too. I'm not sure about reading discussion on the PR but we shouldn't read the code - it just seems safest to stay away from the PR.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "He-Pin (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
> Note that we can incorporate code that is licensed as Apache or an Apache-compatible license such as MIT, as long as we provide proper attribution. For example you could look at this project: https://github.com/jaceksokol/akka-stream-map-async-partition
May be better to ask @jaceksokol If he like to contribute his 👋
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] mdedetrich added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "mdedetrich (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user mdedetrich added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
It would be nice to have these functions at some point if we can implement it but its definitely not urgent.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] kstokoz edited a comment on the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "kstokoz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user kstokoz edited a comment on the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
These operators were added after the fork, mapAsynPartitioned was added in 2.8 (redacted link).
How in this case it can be added to Pekko?
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553#discussioncomment-6691898
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "pjfanning (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Apache Pekko is a fork of Akka 2.6.20. Every API that is in Akka 2.6.20 is in Pekko. If these have been newly added to Akka 2.7 or 2.8, then we can look at adding them to Pekko but we can't copy the new Akka code. Any Akka code added since 2.7.0 is licensed under a new license that is not Apache Software License compatible.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
@He-Pin you own the copyright to the PRs you created so you can create PRs for Pekko directly from them - noone else can - because of the Akka license.
With mapAsyncPartitioned, we need to write a brand new implementation from scratch without reading the Akka code.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
You can read the Akka issue for mapAsyncPartitioned but it best not to look at the PR. I'm not sure about reading discussion on the PR but we shouldn't read the code - it just seems safest to stay away from the PR.
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553#discussioncomment-6692804
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Maybe you can resend the PR and let's @pjfanning as a coauther, then the license is not need.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] kstokoz added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "kstokoz (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user kstokoz added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
These operators were added after the fork, mapAsynPartitioned was added in 2.8 https://github.com/akka/akka/pull/31882.
How in this case it can be added to Pekko?
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553#discussioncomment-6691898
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] mdedetrich added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "mdedetrich (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user mdedetrich added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Document/examples yes, code absolutely not.
If you implement a mirror of `mapAsyncPartitioned`, your also allowed to compare the results of your implementation versus Akka's (i.e. pass inputs into your `mapAsyncPartitioned`, take notes of the outputs and compare that to the inputs passed into Akka's `mapAsyncPartitioned`).
But again do not look at the source code of Akka when doing this, just "run" the Akka binaries (i.e. jar's).
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Please, no rush. This is useful but not worth sweating on. Any time that you have free time but do it when it suits you.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Can you delete the Akka link? It is unhelpful and could get us in trouble.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
It may be possible that we can find out how non-Akka reactive streams implementations have created their versions of these functions (if they have such functionality). Any open source implementations of these functions could be a useful guide for how Pekko can deliver them.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Noone who has looked at the Akka code can participate in writing the Pekko equivalent code. Any Pekko version of these functions would need to be clean room implementations.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] gmethvin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Note that this also applies to any code that is under a non-permissive license (e.g. GPL), not just Akka code. While looking at the code doesn't mean you're automatically going to violate their copyright, it increases the likelihood you will use their original ideas without realizing it, so our policy is just that you should not look at such code at all.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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@jaceksokol refs: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/561 , welcome:), on your ride.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] jaceksokol added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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GitHub user jaceksokol added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
The PR looks fine, the only thing is to review the licence files, but I'm not an expert to do this 😉
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Re: [D] Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators [incubator-pekko]
Posted by "He-Pin (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user He-Pin closed the discussion with a comment: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
@kstokoz https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/931 add mapWithResource operator.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] pjfanning added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Thanks @jaceksokol - I have already created #561. If you could review it that would be great. Or if you prefer to create a PR of your own, we can go that route too.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] mdedetrich added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Note that we can look at general documentation of the function, but we are absolutely not allowed to look at the code/implementation. It has to be completely clean room implementation.
Due to this a lot of the core contributors to Pekko (including myself) have stopped looking at Akka code since the fork happened so we don't get into legal issues.
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] jaceksokol added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
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Hi, I can create a PR with the operator, but I can't promise I will do this this week. But you're free to re-use the code.
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I've deleted the Akka link. It is unhelpful and could get us in trouble.
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Hi,
I have a question regarding adding/mirroring operators that are available in Akka streams in Pekko, i.e.
```
Source/Flow.mapAsyncPartitioned
Source/Flow.mapWithResource
Flow.contramap
```
It is allowed to add such to pekko? Are there any policies around mirroring functionality?
Regards,
Kyrylo
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553
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[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
Posted by "He-Pin (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user He-Pin added a comment to the discussion: Clarify on policy/licensing questions for (new) stream operators
@kstokoz `contramap` has been added, if you want anyother operators, please comment in https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/605 and let's get adequate votes.
GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions/553#discussioncomment-6896111
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