Re: TOMCAT SUCKS

[Peter Mutsaers <pe...@mutsaers.com>]

>> "Nick" == Nick Stoianov <ni...@yaya.com> writes:

    Nick> I really think that TOMCAT SUCKS so bad. I'm not against the
    Nick> open source community but this is why I think that TOMCAT
    Nick> sucks:

Some of the points you're mentioning are not Tomcat specific, but
general "problems" for free software: incomplete documentation, lack
of guaranteed support (only through mailing lists etc, hoping someone
helps you, where in practice b.t.w. support often is much better than
bought support).

The answers are standard too and have been mentioned 1000s of times
before:
- you have the source
- you can improve it yourself, why don't YOU write some documentation,
  fix some bugs or add some functionality?!?

Probably free software (such as Linux, FreeBSD, tomcat, apache, emacs,
perl) isn't for you; you better stick with MSFT stuff and stop
bothering us. It doesn't work well, but at least you have "guaranteed
support", "documentation" which only teaches you some tricks but
doesn't show the real API's (since even those are closed) let alone
the inner workings.

On Tomcat specifically, I can only say that I'm running Tomcat4 beta-5
for a critical Intranet server. It replaced JRUN some time ago (which
really SUCKS by the way).

Documenation has been sufficient for my purposes, and those parts
lacking can be found from the examples and from the source code (can
you read/understand source code by the way?!?). I don't need
integration with some other webserver, so those are no issue for me.

I can't comment on everyones needs and setup, but for my case Tomcat4
fits perfectly well, provides a solid implementation of the Servlet
2.3 API and is 100% reliable.

-- 
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Re: doclet extension

[Dmitri Colebatch <di...@nuix.com.au>]

depending on how brave you're feeling the ejbdoclet project is one example of 
such work (http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/ejbdoclet).

cheers
dim

On Mon,  2 Jul 2001 07:32, msew wrote:
> Does anyone out there have a link to a good tutorial or even just example
> files of how to easily extend the standard doclet?
>
> ie you have a @<tag> and you just want to easily use it in your every day
> javadocing :-)
>
>
>
> thanks!!
>
> msew

doclet extension

[msew <ms...@ev1.net>]

Does anyone out there have a link to a good tutorial or even just example 
files of how to easily extend the standard doclet?

ie you have a @<tag> and you just want to easily use it in your every day 
javadocing :-)



thanks!!

msew

tomcat book

[Dmitri Colebatch <di...@nuix.com.au>]

On Mon,  2 Jul 2001 12:23, Frans Thamura wrote:
> Basically, the question of syntax is
>
> - Description
> - Sample
>
> Just it.
>
> I think we need tomcat-user and tomcat-dev members
> also.

To sign up for the tomcatbook mailing list, send an empty email to 
tcbook-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.  I've just signed up - will look forward to 
seeing what has already been done, and to what the members of this list can 
add to that.

cheesr
dim

RE: JRUN really SUCKS (was TOMCAT SUCKS)

[Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com>]

We have to finish this conversation ASAP.

I want to add to you. I am a ERP consultant, you know
SAP or Oracle, I am in Oracle arena. This software
cost US$100.000

My experience is Oracle is SUCK, even the support,
They sell software "WITH THOUSAND BUGS" and this make
make they pay me more .. haha .. strange business.

Oracle #2 in the world but they got a bugs in their
application esp Oracle Application (ERP). 

Oh yah, one thing, Oracle made a 1000 pages
documentation permodule (Oracle have more than 48
modules) .. God... 48.000 pages, and still not enough
for me as a consultant.

My college is SAP consultant, said that too, SAP is
more complicated.

I learn from this week (speaking SUCK everyday)..We
have to try to improve tomcat, tomcat "must be" a
foundation all apache project (JetSpeed, Cocoon,
Turbine etc). Because we all in one brand name
apache.org. We have to help each others.

We all got a good lesson, why don't we think we will
better than commercial software later, and we can be
like Great Bridge in listed in Fortune with their
PostgreSQL.

Oke, Who will create tomcat-doc mailing list.. I need
that.. but... what happen if there is a syntax, and
all the tomcat-doc mailing list got problem.

Basically, the question of syntax is

- Description
- Sample

Just it.

I think we need tomcat-user and tomcat-dev members
also.


Frans

--- Arnold Shore <as...@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote:
> Re " ... It replaced JRUN some time ago (which
> really SUCKS by the way) ..."
> 
> Peter, can share your thoughts here re exactly how? 
> We're looking at a few
> JSP engines, and am really short of
> <em>informed</em> opinions.  Thanks.
> 
> Arnold Shore
> Annapolis, MD USA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plm@mutsaers.com [mailto:plm@mutsaers.com]On
> Behalf Of Peter
> Mutsaers
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:39 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: TOMCAT SUCKS
> 
> ... On Tomcat specifically, I can only say that I'm
> running Tomcat4 beta-5
> for a critical Intranet server. It replaced JRUN
> some time ago (which
> really SUCKS by the way).
> 
> Documenation ...
> 


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RE: JRUN really SUCKS (was TOMCAT SUCKS)

[Arnold Shore <as...@dgs.dgsys.com>]

Re " ... It replaced JRUN some time ago (which really SUCKS by the way) ..."

Peter, can share your thoughts here re exactly how?  We're looking at a few
JSP engines, and am really short of <em>informed</em> opinions.  Thanks.

Arnold Shore
Annapolis, MD USA

-----Original Message-----
From: plm@mutsaers.com [mailto:plm@mutsaers.com]On Behalf Of Peter
Mutsaers
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:39 AM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: TOMCAT SUCKS

... On Tomcat specifically, I can only say that I'm running Tomcat4 beta-5
for a critical Intranet server. It replaced JRUN some time ago (which
really SUCKS by the way).

Documenation ...