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Posted to general@xml.apache.org by Jeremias Maerki <de...@greenmail.ch> on 2004/03/05 20:45:45 UTC
Re: Federation Proposal
I've posted an initial draft for the XML Graphics PMC (provided this
name is ok for everybody). I've basically copied it from the one from
the Logging Services project and changed it from there.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?XMLProjectPages/XMLGraphicsPMCDraftResolution
Help in any form (Changes to the Wiki page, comments and ideas...) is
welcome. I hope I'm going in the right direction.
BTW, I find the mission statement and bylaws of Logging Services project
very clear and a good template for our new PMCs.
See http://logging.apache.org/
On 23.02.2004 12:50:59 Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>
> > For the next (or subsequent) board meeting, we need to have identified
> > the new TLPs, together with proposed initial PMCs. Finally we need to
> > have a draft motion for the board to vote on. (The last part is the
> > easy part.)
>
> To be clear - we need a number of draft motions - one for each proposed TLP.
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com>.
Sounds good. I recommend we go that route, have the newly formed PMC
vote in someone after ratification.
Thanks,
Glen
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>Maybe something similar to the XML charter? Have all committers vote or
>otherwise decide on PMC members, and then have the PMC vote on the chair?
>Cheers,
> Berin
>
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Berin Lautenbach <be...@wingsofhermes.org>.
Maybe something similar to the XML charter? Have all committers vote or
otherwise decide on PMC members, and then have the PMC vote on the chair?
Cheers,
Berin
> My preference would be to have Peter West take care of it right now,
> while placing Jeremias on the new PMC. But Jeremias and Thomas are
> also excellent options.
>
> Glen
>
>
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
>>> 2. Likewise, the naming of the board VP for our PMC might possibly
>>> be better done by the board itself. (I'm not certain on this point,
>>> however.) If they choose a PMCer we'll have an election to fill the
>>> vacating PMC position. They may also choose to have someone who
>>
>>
>> The board really really likes it when communities select their own :-)
>>
>> Dw
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com>.
My preference would be to have Peter West take care of it right now,
while placing Jeremias on the new PMC. But Jeremias and Thomas are also
excellent options.
Glen
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>> 2. Likewise, the naming of the board VP for our PMC might possibly
>> be better done by the board itself. (I'm not certain on this point,
>> however.) If they choose a PMCer we'll have an election to fill the
>> vacating PMC position. They may also choose to have someone who
>
>
> The board really really likes it when communities select their own :-)
>
> Dw
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
> 2. Likewise, the naming of the board VP for our PMC might possibly be
> better done by the board itself. (I'm not certain on this point,
> however.) If they choose a PMCer we'll have an election to fill the
> vacating PMC position. They may also choose to have someone who
The board really really likes it when communities select their own :-)
Dw
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Berin Lautenbach <be...@wingsofhermes.org>.
Glen Mazza wrote:
> 2. Likewise, the naming of the board VP for our PMC might possibly be
> better done by the board itself. (I'm not certain on this point,
> however.) If they choose a PMCer we'll have an election to fill the
> vacating PMC position. They may also choose to have someone who has no
> relation to anyone on either team, something commercial organizations
> intentionally do sometimes. (The benefit of doing so in the open-source
> world, however, I really can't say...)
Dirk has already commented (as a board member :>), but just to
reinforce, you will want to nominate a person for the position. Unless
there is a good reason, I would expect the board will ratify your
recommendation.
>
> 3. I'm not very strong on this issue, but the last issue brought up in
> the proposal--tasking for separating the projects into components--I
> think can be omitted at this time. Our code in those areas need some
> cleanup, and I'd rather not rush things. We can perhaps postpone this a
> few months until after the new PMC is formed.
+1 - sort out the TLP piece first, and then get into the details of how
you want to handle the project.
Cheers,
Berin
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Re: Federation Proposal
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com>.
Good work, Jeremias. Thanks for the effort.
A few suggestions:
1. As for the initial PMC members, rather than list their names I would
recommend just their number: two each from the Batik and FOP team for
starters, to be decided after board ratification by the teams
themselves. (I'm personally fine with keeping our present PMC'ers, but
don't wish to pressure the Batik project into naming names at this time.)
Later, we may choose to expand the PMC in two directions: either add
equal numbers more of Batik and FOP team members, or add non-committer
oversight members to the PMC: perhaps a senior-level Cocoon committer
(because they use our products so heavily), a W3C SVG WG member ('cept
Thomas! ;), and/or a W3C XSL sub-WG member. But this can be a future
issue, if these positions remain vacant for several months, I'm not too
concerned.
2. Likewise, the naming of the board VP for our PMC might possibly be
better done by the board itself. (I'm not certain on this point,
however.) If they choose a PMCer we'll have an election to fill the
vacating PMC position. They may also choose to have someone who has no
relation to anyone on either team, something commercial organizations
intentionally do sometimes. (The benefit of doing so in the open-source
world, however, I really can't say...)
3. I'm not very strong on this issue, but the last issue brought up in
the proposal--tasking for separating the projects into components--I
think can be omitted at this time. Our code in those areas need some
cleanup, and I'd rather not rush things. We can perhaps postpone this a
few months until after the new PMC is formed.
Thanks again,
Glen
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
>I've posted an initial draft for the XML Graphics PMC (provided this
>name is ok for everybody). I've basically copied it from the one from
>the Logging Services project and changed it from there.
>
>
>
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