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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> on 2012/11/26 21:24:59 UTC
DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Hi,
do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
--
Jean-Louis
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
+ (currently fixing it) a huge bug in Producers.
So definitely worth waiting a bit. We should fix it this week and then I'm fine to do a release.
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
>
> Main fixes are (at least from my point of view):
> 1) better management of generics (@Inject private Foo<Bar>)
> 2) default bean names (@Named without param)
> 3) @Typed badly managed for beans using generics
> 4) (the big one) decorator can't call twice the delegate
>
> (https://github.com/apache/openwebbeans/commits/owb_1.1.x for more info)
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> 2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
>
>> I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be
> out and
>> what are the benefits?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > yes
>> >
>> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jean-Louis
>> >>
>>
>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Main fixes are (at least from my point of view):
1) better management of generics (@Inject private Foo<Bar>)
2) default bean names (@Named without param)
3) @Typed badly managed for beans using generics
4) (the big one) decorator can't call twice the delegate
(https://github.com/apache/openwebbeans/commits/owb_1.1.x for more info)
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
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2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
> I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out and
> what are the benefits?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yes
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Louis
> >>
>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
nop but can release it next week (i guess) if Mark can't do it
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2012/11/27 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
> They sound like good fixes that would be great to get in. My view is that
> if its coming soon (<= a week) it's probably worth waiting for. Otherwise
> we could go for a release now, and roll another when OWB 1.1.7 is out. I
> don't see any harm in more regular releases and I'm happy to roll the
> releases or he out in other way if that helps. Its been nearly 2 months
> since the last release, so we're probably due the next one.
>
> I had a look at OWB's mailing list archive - I didn't spot any chatter
> about a release, but I may have missed it. Had their release process
> started?
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:44, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > you know your answer is wrong by itself....
> >
> > and btw not only users are waiting ;)
> >
> > just my thoughts :p
> >
> > we can have a look if we cannot release owb 1.1.7 as it is today since
> > fixes are here and wait 1.1.8 for cleanups
> >
> > that's how i'd go
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> +1, what is so important we cannot afford?
> >> No idea of when, but our users are waiting for a long time.
> >>
> >> If we always wait for something, we will never get more frequent
> releases
> >> out.
> >> Just my thoughts.
> >>
> >> I even prefer more frequent releases when necessary that always waiting
> to
> >> have a perfect release (which never occurs actually).
> >>
> >> JLouis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out
> and
> >>> what are the benefits?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> yes
> >>>>
> >>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> >>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> >>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> >>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> >>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jean-Louis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Louis
> >>
>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
They sound like good fixes that would be great to get in. My view is that if its coming soon (<= a week) it's probably worth waiting for. Otherwise we could go for a release now, and roll another when OWB 1.1.7 is out. I don't see any harm in more regular releases and I'm happy to roll the releases or he out in other way if that helps. Its been nearly 2 months since the last release, so we're probably due the next one.
I had a look at OWB's mailing list archive - I didn't spot any chatter about a release, but I may have missed it. Had their release process started?
Jon
Sent from my iPad
On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:44, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you know your answer is wrong by itself....
>
> and btw not only users are waiting ;)
>
> just my thoughts :p
>
> we can have a look if we cannot release owb 1.1.7 as it is today since
> fixes are here and wait 1.1.8 for cleanups
>
> that's how i'd go
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
>
> 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
>> +1, what is so important we cannot afford?
>> No idea of when, but our users are waiting for a long time.
>>
>> If we always wait for something, we will never get more frequent releases
>> out.
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>> I even prefer more frequent releases when necessary that always waiting to
>> have a perfect release (which never occurs actually).
>>
>> JLouis
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out and
>>> what are the benefits?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes
>>>>
>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
>>>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
>>>> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Louis
>>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
you know your answer is wrong by itself....
and btw not only users are waiting ;)
just my thoughts :p
we can have a look if we cannot release owb 1.1.7 as it is today since
fixes are here and wait 1.1.8 for cleanups
that's how i'd go
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> +1, what is so important we cannot afford?
> No idea of when, but our users are waiting for a long time.
>
> If we always wait for something, we will never get more frequent releases
> out.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> I even prefer more frequent releases when necessary that always waiting to
> have a perfect release (which never occurs actually).
>
> JLouis
>
>
>
> 2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
>
> > I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out and
> > what are the benefits?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jean-Louis
> > >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis
>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
+1, what is so important we cannot afford?
No idea of when, but our users are waiting for a long time.
If we always wait for something, we will never get more frequent releases
out.
Just my thoughts.
I even prefer more frequent releases when necessary that always waiting to
have a perfect release (which never occurs actually).
JLouis
2012/11/26 Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>
> I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out and
> what are the benefits?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yes
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Louis
> >>
>
--
Jean-Louis
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
I'm sure you're correct. Out of curiosity, when will OWB 1.1.7 be out and what are the benefits?
Cheers
Jon
Sent from my iPad
On 26 Nov 2012, at 22:16, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
>
> 2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Louis
>>
Re: DISCUSS - Wait or not OWB 1.1.7
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
yes
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2012/11/26 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> do we really want to wait OWB 1.1.7?
>
> --
> Jean-Louis
>