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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by John Hart <jh...@testra.com> on 2014/01/10 23:29:11 UTC
Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)
On 1/10/2014 8:07 AM, Andrew Kinsella wrote:
> Hagar-- how can I unsubscibe from this fucking list?
> 3 attempts so far--- all wasted.
> Every single damn message that I get from your list is marked as spam-- but
> I am suffering "spam button finger fatigue syndrome".
> Go figure.
>
> Dr Andrew Kinsella
> General Practitioner
> *Victorian Counselling & Psychological Services*
> 62 Wellington Pde, East Melbourne 3002
> Phone: 03 9419 7172 Fax: 03 8678 3880
> Mobile: 0414954103
> www.vcps.com.au
>
There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the
unsubscribe message and
it's the first post by the sender and every time I've checked out a "How
do I get off this *** list"
request, it's been the same. How can an email be distributed to the list
without an unsubscribe?
And how do those people get on the list without answering a request to
be on it?
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Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:29:11 -0700 John Hart wrote:
>> There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the
>> unsubscribe message
I suspect this happens when the mailing list management software gets
confused by the message format (e.g., it converts from some obscurely
formatted HTML to plain text, but then it doesn't append the footer
correctly). But this is just a theory, I haven't verified it.
> I have seen it suggested that some of the 'irregular' OpenOffice
> download sites automatically log the downloaders to the User list to
> 'honour' their assertion of 'support' and justify the fee they charge
> for the download.
> I don't know if this is so, and cannot remember where I saw the
> suggestion (possibly on an Apache ML?)
The theory (but we have no evidence) was:
- user username@gmail.com gives his e-mail address to an unofficial
download site; say this is example.com
- the site creates a user123456@example.com e-mail address and
subscribes it to the list (sending a subscription request, then approving)
- the site turns the user123456@example.com address into an alias for
username@gmail.com ; so username@gmail.com is "subscribed" to the list
through this alias.
Honestly, I don't believe this happens. If it did, we wouldn't be able
to manually unsubscribe users when they complain (we would see the
"alias" but not the real address); and we would see a lot of users
subscribing from a strange domain (and we have no reports about that).
Of course, if we had any evidence of the former mechanism to be
exploited, we would promptly take action. But so far this seems to be
only a theory: it is simpler to assume that people subscribe by mistake;
we can look into making the welcome messages simpler and clearer, so
that nobody can misunderstand what he is doing when he confirms
subscription to this list.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:29:11 -0700
John Hart <jh...@testra.com> wrote:
> On 1/10/2014 8:07 AM, Andrew Kinsella wrote:
> > Hagar-- how can I unsubscibe from this fucking list?
> > 3 attempts so far--- all wasted.
> > Every single damn message that I get from your list is marked as spam-- but
> > I am suffering "spam button finger fatigue syndrome".
> > Go figure.
> >
> > Dr Andrew Kinsella
> > General Practitioner
> > *Victorian Counselling & Psychological Services*
> > 62 Wellington Pde, East Melbourne 3002
> > Phone: 03 9419 7172 Fax: 03 8678 3880
> > Mobile: 0414954103
> > www.vcps.com.au
> >
>
> There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the
> unsubscribe message and
> it's the first post by the sender and every time I've checked out a "How
> do I get off this *** list"
> request, it's been the same. How can an email be distributed to the list
> without an unsubscribe?
> And how do those people get on the list without answering a request to
> be on it?
>
> sent to users@openoffice.apache.org
I have seen it suggested that some of the 'irregular' OpenOffice download sites automatically log the downloaders to the User list to 'honour' their assertion of 'support' and justify the fee they charge for the download.
I don't know if this is so, and cannot remember where I saw the suggestion (possibly on an Apache ML?)
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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RE: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)
Posted by Maurice Howe <ma...@stny.rr.com>.
I took it upon myself (ahem...) to pound on this potty-mouth twit by
reporting him to his org, since he supplied the link and isn't too well
suited to his profession. Haven't heard back -- Gee, wonder why?
Maurice
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hart [mailto:jhart@testra.com]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:29 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)
On 1/10/2014 8:07 AM, Andrew Kinsella wrote:
> Hagar-- how can I unsubscibe from this fucking list?
> 3 attempts so far--- all wasted.
> Every single damn message that I get from your list is marked as
> spam-- but I am suffering "spam button finger fatigue syndrome".
> Go figure.
>
> Dr Andrew Kinsella
> General Practitioner
> *Victorian Counselling & Psychological Services*
> 62 Wellington Pde, East Melbourne 3002
> Phone: 03 9419 7172 Fax: 03 8678 3880
> Mobile: 0414954103
> www.vcps.com.au
>
There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the unsubscribe
message and it's the first post by the sender and every time I've checked
out a "How do I get off this *** list"
request, it's been the same. How can an email be distributed to the list
without an unsubscribe?
And how do those people get on the list without answering a request to be on
it?
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