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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de> on 2008/03/20 11:12:16 UTC
Re: Your Industry profile
nice. spam on the spamassassin ml. anyone got a rule for those already? :D
On Thursday 20 March 2008 11:13:09 agnello george wrote:
> Hi,
> I started your industry profile on Orglex by adding you as my contact and
> joined Management Consulting, Commercial Banks, Mobile Operators,
> Magazines, Social Networking, Software Testing Hubs. Orglex delivers
> relevant news, information, networking and jobs within your Industry Hubs.
> The more industry contacts and influence you have, the better your access
> to industry recruiters, jobs and business opportunities. Click on the below
> link to accept my Invitation and increase both your Industry connections
> and influence. http://www.orglex.com/joinhubs/0306184118f09fe4a7f1/
> Thanks
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best regards
Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Nigel Frankcom <ni...@blue-canoe.com>.
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:18:03 +0530, "Agnello George"
<ag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/20/08, Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de> wrote:
>>
>> nice. spam on the spamassassin ml. anyone got a rule for those already? :D
>>
>> On Thursday 20 March 2008 11:13:09 agnello george wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I started your industry profile on Orglex by adding you as my contact and
>> > joined Management Consulting, Commercial Banks, Mobile Operators,
>> > Magazines, Social Networking, Software Testing Hubs. Orglex delivers
>> > relevant news, information, networking and jobs within your Industry Hubs.
>> > The more industry contacts and influence you have, the better your access
>> > to industry recruiters, jobs and business opportunities. Click on the below
>> > link to accept my Invitation and increase both your Industry connections
>> > and influence. http://www.orglex.com/joinhubs/0306184118f09fe4a7f1/
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> best regards
>> Arvid Ephraim Picciani
>>
>
>
>SO SORRY!! THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE ON MY BEHALF !!! DIDN'T KNOW IT TOOK
>ALL MY ADDRESSES IN MY ADDRESS BOOK!!
>
>THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO REVERSE
>
>I DO APOLOGIES AGAIN !!
>
>
>AGNELLO
I wouldn't worry about it too much, that you followed up with an
apology speaks volumes and I suspect many of us have been bitten by
similar things on networking sites, I know I have.
That said, remind me not to book on a flight you're on; of all the
lists to do that on you probably picked the worst :-D That kind of
luck is best avoided!
Have a good Easter
Nigel
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de>.
On Thursday 20 March 2008 12:48:03 Agnello George wrote:
> SO SORRY!! THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE ON MY BEHALF !!! DIDN'T KNOW IT TOOK
> ALL MY ADDRESSES IN MY ADDRESS BOOK!!
> THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO REVERSE
> I DO APOLOGIES AGAIN !!
>
> AGNELLO
it's all good. wasn't dead serious anyway (see the smiley)
--
best regards
Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Agnello George <ag...@gmail.com>.
On 3/20/08, Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de> wrote:
>
> nice. spam on the spamassassin ml. anyone got a rule for those already? :D
>
> On Thursday 20 March 2008 11:13:09 agnello george wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I started your industry profile on Orglex by adding you as my contact and
> > joined Management Consulting, Commercial Banks, Mobile Operators,
> > Magazines, Social Networking, Software Testing Hubs. Orglex delivers
> > relevant news, information, networking and jobs within your Industry Hubs.
> > The more industry contacts and influence you have, the better your access
> > to industry recruiters, jobs and business opportunities. Click on the below
> > link to accept my Invitation and increase both your Industry connections
> > and influence. http://www.orglex.com/joinhubs/0306184118f09fe4a7f1/
> > Thanks
>
>
>
> --
> best regards
> Arvid Ephraim Picciani
>
SO SORRY!! THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE ON MY BEHALF !!! DIDN'T KNOW IT TOOK
ALL MY ADDRESSES IN MY ADDRESS BOOK!!
THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO REVERSE
I DO APOLOGIES AGAIN !!
AGNELLO
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Bob Proulx <bo...@proulx.com>.
Evan Platt wrote:
> The e-mail had a pretty vague subject ("numbers" or something), and
> the body of the message was vague, like "Here's the latest" with an
> attached Excel spreadsheet. I almost deleted it until he not only
> 'recalled' it,
And if nothing else had happened for another day you probably would
have just discarded it and never given it another thought, right? I
mean we have all seen random junk that just isn't worth our time to
look at further.
> but sent a message saying to delete the original
> message. The spreadsheet? It contained sales data for ALL his stores
> - number of employees, $ amount of sales, # of sales, revenue,
> etc. He obviously intended to send this to his boss, but sent it to
> all of his sales stores.
A good example of "The Streisand Effect" in operation. By trying to
suppress it he called attention to it effecting the opposite of what
he really desired.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
The lesson for all of us is that when information escapes that it
cannot be suppressed. The act of suppressing it calls attention to it
making it more prominent. If that is unwanted then the better course
of action is to say nothing.
> Quite funny. The "recall" didn't work.
Yes. Too funny.
Bob
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
On Thu, March 20, 2008 2:22 pm, Bob Proulx wrote:
> When I get a recall message from someone I routinely forward their
> message back to them along with a note asking why they wanted to have a
> copy if their message sent back to them just to drive home the point that
> it doesn't work.
When I worked for an independent cell phone store, we received an e-mail
from one of our carrier reps (a employee of the carrier who was our liason
to the carrier). He sent a message to all the stores he 'represented'. The
e-mail had a pretty vague subject ("numbers" or something), and the body
of the message was vague, like "Here's the latest" with an attached Excel
spreadsheet. I almost deleted it until he not only 'recalled' it, but sent
a message saying to delete the original message. The spreadsheet? It
contained sales data for ALL his stores - number of employees, $ amount of
sales, # of sales, revenue, etc. He obviously intended to send this to his
boss, but sent it to all of his sales stores.
Quite funny. The "recall" didn't work.
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Joseph Brennan <br...@columbia.edu>.
Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In some versions of Outlook you can recall a message, and if it hasn't
> been read already, it will be deleted from the recipient's inbox.
That's a Microsoft Exchange feature, and it's not really email, since
it's not transported or accessed by email protocols.
Joseph Brennan
Lead Email Systems Engineer
Columbia University Information Technology
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
>> You can "recall" the message. :-)
>
> No you can't. I can't tell if by the smiley you are really joking or
Sometimes you can. In the past it was considerably more possible, but
vandals resulted in the feature being removed from a lot of stuff.
In some versions of Outlook you can recall a message, and if it hasn't been
read already, it will be deleted from the recipient's inbox. I believe it
will be deleted if it is still sittong on an Exchange server. Of course,
that only works in some versions of Outlook. In others the recipient gets
the recall message, as you note.
It used to be possible to send a delete to a usenet newsgroup to try to kill
a message previously sent, and it would be deleted from the servers. Didn't
help if someone had already read it, and didn't help if the delete arrived
before the message. Most usenet servers I believe have long since ignored
delete requests after some kid started spam-bopming newsgroups with delete
requests for every message in the ng.
So yea, most of the time you can't. But sometimes you can. It mostly
results in confusion when it works because some people see the message and
the guy in the next cube doesn't, and wonders why he was singled out to not
get the company-wide payroll suspension announcement.
Loren
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Bob Proulx <bo...@proulx.com>.
SM wrote:
> >THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO REVERSE
>
> You can "recall" the message. :-)
No you can't. I can't tell if by the smiley you are really joking or
not but I will assume your humor is dry and you were really joking.
But you were too subtle in that case. So many people think that they
can "recall" messages and of course that doesn't work even on the
system it was designed to work on!
When I get a recall message from someone I routinely forward their
message back to them along with a note asking why they wanted to have
a copy if their message sent back to them just to drive home the point
that it doesn't work.
Bob
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de>.
On Thursday 20 March 2008 18:44:14 Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> not really. we don't say things like "**** or "*****" too
> often :D
hahahaha i shouldnt have provoked it!
just got a bounceback from some MS filter which was almost filtered by my SA
which would propably result in a bounceback which would result in a
bounceback which would result in a bounceback.... YAY!
http://rafb.net/p/enoXlf25.html
whoever is running that spamfilter, fix it! or just use sa, it's good ;)
--
best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by SM <sm...@resistor.net>.
At 10:44 20-03-2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
>what's ASF?
That's the Apache Software Foundation.
>not really. we don't say things like "free office 2008" or "VIAGRA" too
>often :D
Yes, we do; see above. :-)
Regards,
-sm
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de>.
On Thursday 20 March 2008 18:25:15 SM wrote:
> At 08:44 20-03-2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> >wow. i got -1.0 here. you're filtering html agressivly?
>
> That's from ASF.
what's ASF?
tests there where:
-0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
1.0 FUZZY_ROLEX BODY: Attempt to obfuscate words in spam
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
0.1 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different
0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
0.2 URIBL_GREY Contains an URL listed in the URIBL greylist
[URIs: orglex.com]
0.5 HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG HTML-only message, but there is no HTML tag
0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI Multipart message only has text/html MIME parts
> It's better to whitelist messages from an antispam list given the
> nature of the discussion.
not really. we don't say things like "free office 2008" or "VIAGRA" too
often :D
--
best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by SM <sm...@resistor.net>.
At 08:44 20-03-2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
>wow. i got -1.0 here. you're filtering html agressivly?
That's from ASF.
It's better to whitelist messages from an antispam list given the
nature of the discussion.
Regards,
-sm
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Arvid Ephraim Picciani <ae...@ibcsolutions.de>.
On Thursday 20 March 2008 16:31:54 SM wrote:
> At 03:12 20-03-2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> >nice. spam on the spamassassin ml. anyone got a rule for those already? :D
>
> It's already included in SpamAssassin:
>
> HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,MPAR
>T_ALT_DIFF,SPF_NEUTRAL
> The score was 7.1.
wow. i got -1.0 here. you're filtering html agressivly?
--
best regards
Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by SM <sm...@resistor.net>.
At 03:12 20-03-2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
>nice. spam on the spamassassin ml. anyone got a rule for those already? :D
It's already included in SpamAssassin:
HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,MPART_ALT_DIFF,SPF_NEUTRAL
The score was 7.1.
At 04:48 20-03-2008, Agnello George wrote:
>SO SORRY!! THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE ON MY BEHALF !!! DIDN'T KNOW IT TOOK
>ALL MY ADDRESSES IN MY ADDRESS BOOK!!
>
>THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO REVERSE
You can "recall" the message. :-)
Regards,
-sm
Re: Your Industry profile
Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
Yea, if SA list is going to allow spam they should lose their whitelist
settings.
RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4
--
Michael Scheidell, CTO
>|SECNAP Network Security
Winner 2008 Network Products Guide Hot Companies
FreeBsd SpamAssassin Ports maintainer
Charter member, ICSA labs anti-spam consortium
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