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Posted to dev@ctakes.apache.org by "Chen, Pei" <Pe...@childrens.harvard.edu> on 2012/08/30 16:57:59 UTC
FW: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Hi cTAKES Mentors,
The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with infra, but still no luck)...
Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
Throwing out some alternatives:
1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache? It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin coding either.
2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times and we'll need to figure out the merges.
3) Continue waiting for infra.
Open to ideas...
Thanks,
Pei
RE: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu>.
I did put in our report to the board that this is holding us up.
But the board report isn't until Wed, 19th
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ctakes-dev-return-375-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
>
[mailto:ctakes-dev-return-375-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
]
> On Behalf Of Coarr, Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:57 AM
> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
>
> -1
>
> I think it is really important to keep the history of our svn
repository.
> We have a very diverse development team with a lot of projects working
> together and being able to see logs and diffs over time is a huge help
> when developing and refactoring.
>
> Is there any one else in infra we can talk to? Or can we get
temporary
> privileges to do the import ourselves?
>
> My $.02
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 2012-09-12 10:49 , "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu>
wrote:
>
> >+1 on closing infra-5079 and using what's in apache SVN
> >(and using SF.net if we want to look at history)
> >
> >Regards,
> >James Masanz
RE: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Finan, Sean" <Se...@childrens.harvard.edu>.
-1
If at all possible I'd like to keep a "usable" history of changes (a text dump of commit notes is not much help).
One reason: as a new contributor to cTakes, I would like to have a history available if I make a change to existing code that has unexpected results - so that I can see if a previous similar change had the same problem. (expounds what Matt already wrote).
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Bethard [mailto:steven.bethard@Colorado.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:04 AM
To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
I'm also -1 on losing history unless we really have to.
Steve
On 12 Sep 2012, at 16:56 , Coarr, Matt wrote:
> -1
>
> I think it is really important to keep the history of our svn repository.
> We have a very diverse development team with a lot of projects working
> together and being able to see logs and diffs over time is a huge help
> when developing and refactoring.
>
> Is there any one else in infra we can talk to? Or can we get
> temporary privileges to do the import ourselves?
>
> My $.02
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 2012-09-12 10:49 , "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
>> +1 on closing infra-5079 and using what's in apache SVN
>> (and using SF.net if we want to look at history)
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Masanz
>
Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by Steven Bethard <st...@Colorado.EDU>.
I'm also -1 on losing history unless we really have to.
Steve
On 12 Sep 2012, at 16:56 , Coarr, Matt wrote:
> -1
>
> I think it is really important to keep the history of our svn repository.
> We have a very diverse development team with a lot of projects working
> together and being able to see logs and diffs over time is a huge help
> when developing and refactoring.
>
> Is there any one else in infra we can talk to? Or can we get temporary
> privileges to do the import ourselves?
>
> My $.02
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 2012-09-12 10:49 , "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
>> +1 on closing infra-5079 and using what's in apache SVN
>> (and using SF.net if we want to look at history)
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Masanz
>
Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Coarr, Matt" <mc...@mitre.org>.
-1
I think it is really important to keep the history of our svn repository.
We have a very diverse development team with a lot of projects working
together and being able to see logs and diffs over time is a huge help
when developing and refactoring.
Is there any one else in infra we can talk to? Or can we get temporary
privileges to do the import ourselves?
My $.02
Matt
On 2012-09-12 10:49 , "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>+1 on closing infra-5079 and using what's in apache SVN
>(and using SF.net if we want to look at history)
>
>Regards,
>James Masanz
RE: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu>.
+1 on closing infra-5079 and using what's in apache SVN
(and using SF.net if we want to look at history)
Regards,
James Masanz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ctakes-dev-return-373-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> [mailto:ctakes-dev-return-373-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org]
> On Behalf Of Chen, Pei
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:45 AM
> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
>
> Yes Jörn. Since we already have the latest export of the code already in
> the current Apache SVN, I would prefer with #1 mainly for simplicity. It
> may not be so straightforward to merge code/fixes especially once we start
> renaming project folders and namespaces. If others are okay with it, we
> can ask to close the infra-5079 jira and move forward with the latest svn
> codebase sans the old revision history; for the unlikely chance we may
> need the history, we can go to SF files or the dump file.
>
> --Pei
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jörn Kottmann [mailto:kottmann@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:13 AM
> > To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
> >
> > There is already a ping on the issue from the 7th September, but there
> > was no reply since then.
> >
> > Jörn
> >
> > On 09/11/2012 11:36 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> > > Did you hear anything regarding this? Otherwise we either proceed
> > > with
> > > #1/#2 or by now we can also ping the infra guys.
> > >
> > > Jörn
> > >
> > > On 08/30/2012 05:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> > >> Hi Guys,
> > >>
> > >> +1 to option #3 as well, with a deadline of say early next week. If
> > >> it's not done by
> > >> early next week, #1 or #2 sound fine.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> +1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
> > >>> do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jörn
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
> > >>>> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
> > >>>> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than
> > >>>> anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's
> > >>>> with infra, but still no luck)...
> > >>>> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Throwing out some alternatives:
> > >>>> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache?
> > >>>> It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin
> > >>>> coding either.
> > >>>> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's
> > >>>> possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import,
> > >>>> and we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean
> > >>>> developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times
> > >>>> and we'll need to figure out the merges.
> > >>>> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Open to ideas...
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Pei
> > >>
> > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
> > >> of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++
> > >>
> > >
RE: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Chen, Pei" <Pe...@childrens.harvard.edu>.
Yes Jörn. Since we already have the latest export of the code already in the current Apache SVN, I would prefer with #1 mainly for simplicity. It may not be so straightforward to merge code/fixes especially once we start renaming project folders and namespaces. If others are okay with it, we can ask to close the infra-5079 jira and move forward with the latest svn codebase sans the old revision history; for the unlikely chance we may need the history, we can go to SF files or the dump file.
--Pei
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jörn Kottmann [mailto:kottmann@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:13 AM
> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
>
> There is already a ping on the issue from the 7th September, but there was
> no reply since then.
>
> Jörn
>
> On 09/11/2012 11:36 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> > Did you hear anything regarding this? Otherwise we either proceed with
> > #1/#2 or by now we can also ping the infra guys.
> >
> > Jörn
> >
> > On 08/30/2012 05:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> +1 to option #3 as well, with a deadline of say early next week. If
> >> it's not done by
> >> early next week, #1 or #2 sound fine.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
> >>> do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
> >>>
> >>> Jörn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
> >>>> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
> >>>> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than
> >>>> anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with
> >>>> infra, but still no luck)...
> >>>> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
> >>>>
> >>>> Throwing out some alternatives:
> >>>> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache?
> >>>> It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin
> >>>> coding either.
> >>>> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's
> >>>> possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and
> >>>> we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean
> >>>> developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times
> >>>> and we'll need to figure out the merges.
> >>>> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
> >>>>
> >>>> Open to ideas...
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Pei
> >>
> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University
> >> of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++
> >>
> >
Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
There is already a ping on the issue from the 7th September,
but there was no reply since then.
Jörn
On 09/11/2012 11:36 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> Did you hear anything regarding this? Otherwise we either
> proceed with #1/#2 or by now we can also ping the infra guys.
>
> Jörn
>
> On 08/30/2012 05:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> +1 to option #3 as well, with a deadline of say early next week. If
>> it's not done by
>> early next week, #1 or #2 sound fine.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
>>> do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
>>>
>>> Jörn
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
>>>> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
>>>> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than
>>>> anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with
>>>> infra, but still no luck)...
>>>> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
>>>>
>>>> Throwing out some alternatives:
>>>> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache?
>>>> It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin
>>>> coding either.
>>>> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's
>>>> possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and
>>>> we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean
>>>> developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times
>>>> and we'll need to figure out the merges.
>>>> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
>>>>
>>>> Open to ideas...
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pei
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>
Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
Did you hear anything regarding this? Otherwise we either
proceed with #1/#2 or by now we can also ping the infra guys.
Jörn
On 08/30/2012 05:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> +1 to option #3 as well, with a deadline of say early next week. If it's not done by
> early next week, #1 or #2 sound fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
>
>> +1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
>> do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
>>
>> Jörn
>>
>>
>> On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
>>> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
>>> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with infra, but still no luck)...
>>> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
>>>
>>> Throwing out some alternatives:
>>> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache? It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin coding either.
>>> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times and we'll need to figure out the merges.
>>> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
>>>
>>> Open to ideas...
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pei
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
Re: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Guys,
+1 to option #3 as well, with a deadline of say early next week. If it's not done by
early next week, #1 or #2 sound fine.
Cheers,
Chris
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> +1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
> do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
>
> Jörn
>
>
> On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
>> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
>> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with infra, but still no luck)...
>> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
>>
>> Throwing out some alternatives:
>> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache? It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin coding either.
>> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times and we'll need to figure out the merges.
>> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
>>
>> Open to ideas...
>> Thanks,
>> Pei
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: FW: INFRA-5079 (cTAKES svn import)
Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
+1 to do alternative 3 for a while. The last mail which said they
do it Wednesday sounded to me like it will happen really soon.
Jörn
On 08/30/2012 04:57 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
> Hi cTAKES Mentors,
> The request to perform the svn import is taking longer than anticipated (It's been some time now with several follow up's with infra, but still no luck)...
> Any suggestions here to move the incubation process along?
>
> Throwing out some alternatives:
> 1) Do we really need the full revision history from SF on Apache? It would be nice, but don't want to wait indefinitely to begin coding either.
> 2) We start development on the apache svn. Ask infra if it's possible to preserve this folder when they perform the import, and we perform a merge any time after the import. This would mean developers would have to configure their workspace multiple times and we'll need to figure out the merges.
> 3) Continue waiting for infra.
>
> Open to ideas...
> Thanks,
> Pei