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A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

At the recently held ApacheCon Europe 2007 in Amsterdam I had an opportunity
to speak on "J2EE Application Development on Apache Geronimo Simplified
using Eclipse". I have added the session material in our wiki (in case some
one finds it useful):
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse
. Please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location.

Session material can also be downloaded from here:
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon-data/attachments/Eu2007OnlineSessionSlides/attachments/J2EE_App_Development_Geronimo_Eclipse.zip

A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by clicking on
the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new remote site in the
update manager) is too slow.

It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo
Eclipse Plug-in say from
http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html(similar to the way I
can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from
eclipse.org).

http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/ provides one such
facility for downloading latest version of the plug-in, but not the earlier
versions.

2) It's very tedious and erroneous to create Geronimo Deployment Plans by
hand. It would have helped a lot if Geronimo Development Tools provided some
good editors/wizards for auto creating & editing Geronimo Deployment Plans.

I started doing some work w.r.t 2) above, but later got confused with
Annotations and the probable new ways of approaching Geronimo 2.0 Deployment
Plans with Annotations.

If someone can clarify Community's plans towards Geronimo 2.0 Deployment
Plans, I can do something about Eclipse editors/wizards for Geronimo
Deployment Plans.

Thanks,
Shiva

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Lasantha :-) I will create one such page in our wiki.

Between thanks also to the "EJB sample application" that you and Hernan (if
I am correct) have created. I happily used it as the J2EE Application to be
developed in my Presentation.

- Shiva

On 5/12/07, Lasantha Ranaweera <la...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>
> Hi Shiva,
>
> I just went through your presentation and looks good for me :-) .
>
> It is better if we can add this kind of sample application to the
> Geronimo documentation (how to create a small sample application with
> Eclipse Geronimo Plugin) with some screen prints. It should be targeted
> the new comers of J2EE/JEE5 to use Geronimo as their application server.
> That will make Geronimo much more popular among J2EE/JEE5 developer
> community too.
>
> Thanks,
> Lasantha
>
> Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> > At the recently held ApacheCon Europe 2007 in Amsterdam I had an
> > opportunity to speak on "J2EE Application Development on Apache
> > Geronimo Simplified using Eclipse". I have added the session material
> > in our wiki (in case some one finds it useful):
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse
> > <
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse
> >.
> > Please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location.
> >
> > Session material can also be downloaded from here:
> >
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon-data/attachments/Eu2007OnlineSessionSlides/attachments/J2EE_App_Development_Geronimo_Eclipse.zip
> >
> > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by
> > clicking on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new
> > remote site in the update manager) is too slow.
> >
> > It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo
> > Eclipse Plug-in say from
> > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the way
> > I can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> > <http://eclipse.org>).
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/ provides one
> > such facility for downloading latest version of the plug-in, but not
> > the earlier versions.
> >
> > 2) It's very tedious and erroneous to create Geronimo Deployment Plans
> > by hand. It would have helped a lot if Geronimo Development Tools
> > provided some good editors/wizards for auto creating & editing
> > Geronimo Deployment Plans.
> >
> > I started doing some work w.r.t 2) above, but later got confused with
> > Annotations and the probable new ways of approaching Geronimo 2.0
> > Deployment Plans with Annotations.
> >
> > If someone can clarify Community's plans towards Geronimo 2.0
> > Deployment Plans, I can do something about Eclipse editors/wizards for
> > Geronimo Deployment Plans.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shiva
>
>

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Jack <vo...@yahoo.com>.
in the geronimo deployment plan editor, it seems that
i can't add a dependencies (tab deployment). i add to
press twice the finish button but it doesn't keep
informations entered.
eclipsewtp is 1.52 or 1.53.
regards,



--- Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If my understanding is correct Geronimo Eclipse
> Plug-in is the product of
> Sachin Patel's hard work and he is a Committer on
> Geronimo.
> 
> Sometime back I had started assisiting Sachin in
> updating those Form Based
> Editors and we created a full fledged editor for
> editing "geronimo-web.xml".
> But then, it never got committed into main stream
> code because of changed
> focus on Java EE 5 and the facility of Annotations
> bought with it.
> 
> So as per my knowledge, I don't think anyone is
> working on updating those
> Form Editors. Sachin, please correct me if I am
> wrong here.
> 
> About your other question, Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in
> does use the same
> Schemas as provided with Geronimo. Can you elaborate
> as to what problem you
> are facing?
> 
> - Shiva
> 
> On 5/14/07, Jack <vo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> > as you said in your presentation :
> > Please note that the Form Based Editors for
> Geronimo
> > Deployment Plans provided by Geronimo Eclipse
> Plug-in
> > is currently limited in its functionality and as
> such
> > Geronimo Deployment Plans have to be created
> manually.
> >
> > do you know if somebody is working to update this
> form
> > editor ? it seems that schema files used by this
> > editor aren't the same as provided with geronimo
> 1.1 ?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> >
> 



       
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Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com>.
If my understanding is correct Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in is the product of
Sachin Patel's hard work and he is a Committer on Geronimo.

Sometime back I had started assisiting Sachin in updating those Form Based
Editors and we created a full fledged editor for editing "geronimo-web.xml".
But then, it never got committed into main stream code because of changed
focus on Java EE 5 and the facility of Annotations bought with it.

So as per my knowledge, I don't think anyone is working on updating those
Form Editors. Sachin, please correct me if I am wrong here.

About your other question, Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in does use the same
Schemas as provided with Geronimo. Can you elaborate as to what problem you
are facing?

- Shiva

On 5/14/07, Jack <vo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hello,
> as you said in your presentation :
> Please note that the Form Based Editors for Geronimo
> Deployment Plans provided by Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in
> is currently limited in its functionality and as such
> Geronimo Deployment Plans have to be created manually.
>
> do you know if somebody is working to update this form
> editor ? it seems that schema files used by this
> editor aren't the same as provided with geronimo 1.1 ?
>
> regards,
>
>

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Jack <vo...@yahoo.com>.
--- Lasantha Ranaweera <la...@opensource.lk> wrote:

> Hi Shiva,
> 
> I just went through your presentation and looks good
> for me :-) .
> 
> It is better if we can add this kind of sample
> application to the 
> Geronimo documentation (how to create a small sample
> application with 
> Eclipse Geronimo Plugin) with some screen prints. It
> should be targeted 
> the new comers of J2EE/JEE5 to use Geronimo as their
> application server. 
> That will make Geronimo much more popular among
> J2EE/JEE5 developer 
> community too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lasantha
> 
> Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> > At the recently held ApacheCon Europe 2007 in
> Amsterdam I had an 
> > opportunity to speak on "J2EE Application
> Development on Apache 
> > Geronimo Simplified using Eclipse". I have added
> the session material 
> > in our wiki (in case some one finds it useful):
> >
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse
> 
> >
>
<http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse>.
> 
> > Please feel free to move it to a more appropriate
> location.
> >
> > Session material can also be downloaded from here:
> >
>
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon-data/attachments/Eu2007OnlineSessionSlides/attachments/J2EE_App_Development_Geronimo_Eclipse.zip
> >
> > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo
> Eclipse Plug-in:
> > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within
> the IDE (by 
> > clicking on the "Don't see your server listed?" or
> by creating a new 
> > remote site in the update manager) is too slow.
> >
> > It would save a lot of time if I can simply
> download a zip of Geronimo 
> > Eclipse Plug-in say from 
> > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html
> (similar to the way 
> > I can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from
> eclipse.org 
> > <http://eclipse.org>).
> >
> >
>
http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/
> provides one 
> > such facility for downloading latest version of
> the plug-in, but not 
> > the earlier versions.
> >
> > 2) It's very tedious and erroneous to create
> Geronimo Deployment Plans 
> > by hand. It would have helped a lot if Geronimo
> Development Tools 
> > provided some good editors/wizards for auto
> creating & editing 
> > Geronimo Deployment Plans.
> >
> > I started doing some work w.r.t 2) above, but
> later got confused with 
> > Annotations and the probable new ways of
> approaching Geronimo 2.0 
> > Deployment Plans with Annotations.
> >
> > If someone can clarify Community's plans towards
> Geronimo 2.0 
> > Deployment Plans, I can do something about Eclipse
> editors/wizards for 
> > Geronimo Deployment Plans.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shiva
> 
> 



hello,
as you said in your presentation :
Please note that the Form Based Editors for Geronimo
Deployment Plans provided by Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in
is currently limited in its functionality and as such
Geronimo Deployment Plans have to be created manually.

do you know if somebody is working to update this form
editor ? it seems that schema files used by this
editor aren't the same as provided with geronimo 1.1 ?

regards,



 
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Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Lasantha Ranaweera <la...@opensource.lk>.
Hi Shiva,

I just went through your presentation and looks good for me :-) .

It is better if we can add this kind of sample application to the 
Geronimo documentation (how to create a small sample application with 
Eclipse Geronimo Plugin) with some screen prints. It should be targeted 
the new comers of J2EE/JEE5 to use Geronimo as their application server. 
That will make Geronimo much more popular among J2EE/JEE5 developer 
community too.

Thanks,
Lasantha

Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> At the recently held ApacheCon Europe 2007 in Amsterdam I had an 
> opportunity to speak on "J2EE Application Development on Apache 
> Geronimo Simplified using Eclipse". I have added the session material 
> in our wiki (in case some one finds it useful):
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse 
> <http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDOC11/J2EE+Application+Development+on+Apache+Geronimo+Simplified+using+Eclipse>. 
> Please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location.
>
> Session material can also be downloaded from here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon-data/attachments/Eu2007OnlineSessionSlides/attachments/J2EE_App_Development_Geronimo_Eclipse.zip
>
> A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by 
> clicking on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new 
> remote site in the update manager) is too slow.
>
> It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo 
> Eclipse Plug-in say from 
> http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the way 
> I can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org 
> <http://eclipse.org>).
>
> http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/ provides one 
> such facility for downloading latest version of the plug-in, but not 
> the earlier versions.
>
> 2) It's very tedious and erroneous to create Geronimo Deployment Plans 
> by hand. It would have helped a lot if Geronimo Development Tools 
> provided some good editors/wizards for auto creating & editing 
> Geronimo Deployment Plans.
>
> I started doing some work w.r.t 2) above, but later got confused with 
> Annotations and the probable new ways of approaching Geronimo 2.0 
> Deployment Plans with Annotations.
>
> If someone can clarify Community's plans towards Geronimo 2.0 
> Deployment Plans, I can do something about Eclipse editors/wizards for 
> Geronimo Deployment Plans.
>
> Thanks,
> Shiva


Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Sachin, using Update Manager and selecting an appropriate mirror
seems to speed up things a bit, but not comparable with the savings in
Download time that I get with Downloading a zip of Eclipse Plug-in by using
a Download Accelerator.

I tried this from my Office Network (lot lot faster than my Home
connectivity): Downloading using Update Manager (after selecting a mirror)
took 18mins while downloading a zip of Eclipse Plugin (from
http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/ ) only took 5mins.
More than 3 times savings in Download time.

So, I would still request a zip of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (for all
versions) to be made available on the
http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html page. Individuals familiar
with Eclipse would then be able to take advantage of the savings in Download
Time.

- Shiva

On 5/12/07, Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The update manager needs to remain the official means of
> installation.  The zip distributions are available and we'll continue
> to make them available, but this should not be and will not be as a
> documented installation method.  The don't see your server link
> automatically chooses a default mirror location, so the cause of your
> slow downloads is most likely due to the mirror not being the ideal
> server for your location.  Thus you can always use the update manager
> directly as the website suggests so that you can select a mirror of
> your choosing.  A zip distribution provides, no validation, no
> dependency checking, no install location preference, and does not
> automatically refresh the plugin cache when extracted, so a restart
> will not load the plugins if previous versions of the plugin
> existed.  Thus it should remain only a alternate install mechanism
> that only individuals familiar with eclipse should use.
>
> -sachin
>
>
> On May 11, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
>
> > I suspect your network connectivity is too good :-)
> >
> > Here is an experiment I tried:
> > Connected from Home with a Mobile Internet Connectivity of 230Kbps
> > ( :-( that's the best Home connectivity I can get in my place) and
> > tried downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in by clicking on "Don't
> > see your server listed" link. After about 25mins and 7.1MB of
> > download volume Plug-in installation failed with a Network
> > Connection Error. When I tried again (thank God, download restarted
> > from where it last failed) it took another 25mins for an additional
> > download volume of 7.8 MB with 3 restarts!
> >
> > After this I tried downloading a zip of eclipse plug-in (http://
> > people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/g-eclipse-
> > plugin-2.0.0-v20070430.1413-deployable.zip ) using a download
> > accelerator. This time it took 50mins for 17MB of download volume
> > to complete and there were no download errors.
> >
> > In addition being able to download a zip allows me to backup a copy
> > of the setup for later use, which wouldn't be trivial if I use
> > automatic download by IDE.
> >
> > We probably can recommend users to install via Eclipse update site,
> > yet make available a zip of eclipse plug-in for direct download.
> > What do you say?
> >
> > We probably can also work to reduce the size of Geronimo Eclipse
> > Plug-in.
> >
> > - Shiva
> >
> > On 5/10/07, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just one comment here...  When I last tried to download the geronimo
> > eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all.  I don't really see much
> > difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to
> > download the zip file.   I think the preferred way is to use the
> > eclipse
> > update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies
> > automatically on the fly.
> >
> > Lin
> >
> > Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> >
> > > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> > > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by
> > clicking
> > > on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new
> > remote site
> > > in the update manager) is too slow.
> > >
> > > It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of
> > Geronimo
> > > Eclipse Plug-in say from
> > > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the
> > way I
> > > can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> > > <http://eclipse.org>).
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>.
The update manager needs to remain the official means of  
installation.  The zip distributions are available and we'll continue  
to make them available, but this should not be and will not be as a  
documented installation method.  The don't see your server link  
automatically chooses a default mirror location, so the cause of your  
slow downloads is most likely due to the mirror not being the ideal  
server for your location.  Thus you can always use the update manager  
directly as the website suggests so that you can select a mirror of  
your choosing.  A zip distribution provides, no validation, no  
dependency checking, no install location preference, and does not  
automatically refresh the plugin cache when extracted, so a restart  
will not load the plugins if previous versions of the plugin  
existed.  Thus it should remain only a alternate install mechanism  
that only individuals familiar with eclipse should use.

-sachin


On May 11, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:

> I suspect your network connectivity is too good :-)
>
> Here is an experiment I tried:
> Connected from Home with a Mobile Internet Connectivity of 230Kbps  
> ( :-( that's the best Home connectivity I can get in my place) and  
> tried downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in by clicking on "Don't  
> see your server listed" link. After about 25mins and 7.1MB of  
> download volume Plug-in installation failed with a Network  
> Connection Error. When I tried again (thank God, download restarted  
> from where it last failed) it took another 25mins for an additional  
> download volume of 7.8 MB with 3 restarts!
>
> After this I tried downloading a zip of eclipse plug-in (http:// 
> people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/g-eclipse- 
> plugin-2.0.0-v20070430.1413-deployable.zip ) using a download  
> accelerator. This time it took 50mins for 17MB of download volume  
> to complete and there were no download errors.
>
> In addition being able to download a zip allows me to backup a copy  
> of the setup for later use, which wouldn't be trivial if I use  
> automatic download by IDE.
>
> We probably can recommend users to install via Eclipse update site,  
> yet make available a zip of eclipse plug-in for direct download.  
> What do you say?
>
> We probably can also work to reduce the size of Geronimo Eclipse  
> Plug-in.
>
> - Shiva
>
> On 5/10/07, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just one comment here...  When I last tried to download the geronimo
> eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all.  I don't really see much
> difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to
> download the zip file.   I think the preferred way is to use the  
> eclipse
> update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies
> automatically on the fly.
>
> Lin
>
> Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
>
> > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by  
> clicking
> > on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new  
> remote site
> > in the update manager) is too slow.
> >
> > It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of  
> Geronimo
> > Eclipse Plug-in say from
> > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the  
> way I
> > can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> > <http://eclipse.org>).
> >
>


Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com>.
I suspect your network connectivity is too good :-)

Here is an experiment I tried:
Connected from Home with a Mobile Internet Connectivity of 230Kbps ( :-(
that's the best Home connectivity I can get in my place) and tried
downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in by clicking on "Don't see your server
listed" link. After about 25mins and 7.1MB of download volume Plug-in
installation failed with a Network Connection Error. When I tried again
(thank God, download restarted from where it last failed) it took another
25mins for an additional download volume of 7.8 MB with 3 restarts!

After this I tried downloading a zip of eclipse plug-in (
http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-v20070430.1413-deployable.zip)
using a download accelerator. This time it took 50mins for 17MB of download
volume to complete and there were no download errors.

In addition being able to download a zip allows me to backup a copy of the
setup for later use, which wouldn't be trivial if I use automatic download
by IDE.

We probably can recommend users to install via Eclipse update site, yet make
available a zip of eclipse plug-in for direct download. What do you say?

We probably can also work to reduce the size of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in.

- Shiva

On 5/10/07, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Just one comment here...  When I last tried to download the geronimo
> eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all.  I don't really see much
> difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to
> download the zip file.   I think the preferred way is to use the eclipse
> update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies
> automatically on the fly.
>
> Lin
>
> Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
>
> > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by clicking
> > on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new remote site
> > in the update manager) is too slow.
> >
> > It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo
> > Eclipse Plug-in say from
> > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the way I
> > can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> > <http://eclipse.org>).
> >
>

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Shiva Kumar H R <sh...@gmail.com>.
I suspect your network connectivity is too good :-)

Here is an experiment I tried:
Connected from Home with a Mobile Internet Connectivity of 230Kbps ( :-(
that's the best Home connectivity I can get in my place) and tried
downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in by clicking on "Don't see your server
listed" link. After about 25mins and 7.1MB of download volume Plug-in
installation failed with a Network Connection Error. When I tried again
(thank God, download restarted from where it last failed) it took another
25mins for an additional download volume of 7.8 MB with 3 restarts!

After this I tried downloading a zip of eclipse plug-in (
http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-v20070430.1413-deployable.zip)
using a download accelerator. This time it took 50mins for 17MB of download
volume to complete and there were no download errors.

In addition being able to download a zip allows me to backup a copy of the
setup for later use, which wouldn't be trivial if I use automatic download
by IDE.

We probably can recommend users to install via Eclipse update site, yet make
available a zip of eclipse plug-in for direct download. What do you say?

We probably can also work to reduce the size of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in.

- Shiva

On 5/10/07, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Just one comment here...  When I last tried to download the geronimo
> eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all.  I don't really see much
> difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to
> download the zip file.   I think the preferred way is to use the eclipse
> update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies
> automatically on the fly.
>
> Lin
>
> Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
>
> > A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> > 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by clicking
> > on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new remote site
> > in the update manager) is too slow.
> >
> > It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo
> > Eclipse Plug-in say from
> > http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the way I
> > can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> > <http://eclipse.org>).
> >
>

Re: A session I presented at ApacheCon on J2EE App development using Eclipse

Posted by Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com>.
Just one comment here...  When I last tried to download the geronimo 
eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all.  I don't really see much 
difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to 
download the zip file.   I think the preferred way is to use the eclipse 
update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies 
automatically on the fly.

Lin

Shiva Kumar H R wrote:

> A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by clicking 
> on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new remote site 
> in the update manager) is too slow.
> 
> It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of Geronimo 
> Eclipse Plug-in say from 
> http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the way I 
> can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org 
> <http://eclipse.org>).
>