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Modifying translations
Hi folks,
recently Rich committed a tool for pasting stuff for translations... I
thought it was *for translators*. Well, now I know it wasn't.
Can someone point me to the discussion on the mailing list, were it was
decided to change the translation source files and adding english text?
I think, that's a bad idea. Wouldn't it be way more useful to generate the
missing-translation-note just into the output (formulated in translation
language etc)? We have a build system around which should be capable of
doing that.
nd
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Dec 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, André Malo wrote:
> I've added the needed logic to the styles and a new localized
> message saying
> that this directive was not translated. The already added sections
> can be
> removed now.
That's awesome. Thanks.
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* Rich Bowen wrote:
> I looked at the XSLT stuff for a bit, and clearly don't know how it
> works at all. I'd really like to understand it better. It's too much
> of a black box to me right now.
Granted, XSLT is not exactly easy to work with.
I've added the needed logic to the styles and a new localized message saying
that this directive was not translated. The already added sections can be
removed now.
Gonna cleanup the build dependencies now.
nd
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:53 PM, André Malo wrote:
> * Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:40 PM, André Malo wrote:
>>>>> Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we
>>>>> would
>>>>> enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was
>>>>> brought
>>>>> up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now.
>>>>> Will
>>>>> continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was
>>>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> This is the one, I think. Although there may have been another one,
>>> too.
>>
>> Don't you just hate it when you do that?
>
> URLs are slippery sometimes ;)
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44786
>
> hmpf. I told two years ago, that patches are welcome? Ok, really
> time to
> provide one by myself ;)
>
> However, I still think, it's good style to discuss such actions on the
> mailing list (independently from bugs, I just filter those bug mails
> away).
> Just in case, I'm misunderstood: Kudos to you guys for doing
> *something*
> anyway!
Yes, agreed. We have a tendency here (at least, I know I do) to just
go ahead and do what seems like the right thing, and not discuss it
enough. I'll try to be better about that.
I looked at the XSLT stuff for a bit, and clearly don't know how it
works at all. I'd really like to understand it better. It's too much
of a black box to me right now.
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* Rich Bowen wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:40 PM, André Malo wrote:
> >>> Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we would
> >>> enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was
> >>> brought
> >>> up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now. Will
> >>> continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was
> >>> necessary.
> >
> > This is the one, I think. Although there may have been another one,
> > too.
>
> Don't you just hate it when you do that?
URLs are slippery sometimes ;)
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44786
hmpf. I told two years ago, that patches are welcome? Ok, really time to
provide one by myself ;)
However, I still think, it's good style to discuss such actions on the
mailing list (independently from bugs, I just filter those bug mails away).
Just in case, I'm misunderstood: Kudos to you guys for doing *something*
anyway!
nd
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:40 PM, André Malo wrote:
>
>>> Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we would
>>> enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was
>>> brought
>>> up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now. Will
>>> continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was
>>> necessary.
>
>
>
> This is the one, I think. Although there may have been another one,
> too.
Don't you just hate it when you do that?
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44786
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:40 PM, André Malo wrote:
>> Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we would
>> enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was brought
>> up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now. Will
>> continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was
>> necessary.
This is the one, I think. Although there may have been another one, too.
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* Rich Bowen wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:11 PM, André Malo wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > recently Rich committed a tool for pasting stuff for translations... I
> > thought it was *for translators*. Well, now I know it wasn't.
> >
> > Can someone point me to the discussion on the mailing list, were it
> > was
> > decided to change the translation source files and adding english
> > text?
> >
> > I think, that's a bad idea. Wouldn't it be way more useful to
> > generate the
> > missing-translation-note just into the output (formulated in
> > translation
> > language etc)? We have a build system around which should be capable
> > of
> > doing that.
>
> Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we would
> enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was brought
> up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now. Will
> continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was necessary.
>
> The problems that we're trying to solve is that the directives.html
> for non-english translations simply omits the untranslated directives,
> resulting in documentation that just fails to mention large portions
> of the functionality of the server.
>
> Alternate solutions are welcomed.
Alright, it shouldn't be that hard. I'll have a look at all the XSLT-stuff
within the next days.
nd
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Re: Modifying translations
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:11 PM, André Malo wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> recently Rich committed a tool for pasting stuff for translations... I
> thought it was *for translators*. Well, now I know it wasn't.
>
> Can someone point me to the discussion on the mailing list, were it
> was
> decided to change the translation source files and adding english
> text?
>
> I think, that's a bad idea. Wouldn't it be way more useful to
> generate the
> missing-translation-note just into the output (formulated in
> translation
> language etc)? We have a build system around which should be capable
> of
> doing that.
Yes, that would be preferable. If you know how to do that, we would
enormously welcome such a functionality. However, when it was brought
up (this was in a Bugzilla ticket that I can't find right now. Will
continue to look for it) it wasn't obvious how to do what was necessary.
The problems that we're trying to solve is that the directives.html
for non-english translations simply omits the untranslated directives,
resulting in documentation that just fails to mention large portions
of the functionality of the server.
Alternate solutions are welcomed.
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Rich Bowen
rbowen@rcbowen.com
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