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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> on 2015/09/03 02:59:51 UTC
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])
I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule
when we reported last month.
Can anyone, please let me know?
Thanks,
Roman.
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Marvin <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 16 September 2015, 10:30 am PST. The report
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Sep 2nd).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
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> Your report should contain the following:
>
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
> or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
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> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> FWIW, Exactly the same thing happened to Calcite. Missed July, reported in
> August, was asked to report in September. Rather than quibbling, I filed a
> report.
Nice!
While we strive to get the reminders right, they're just reminders. (P)PMCs
really ought to take ownership of reporting: know why it is important, and
know what the schedule is. "But I didn't get a reminder" is not an excuse for
not filing a report; on the flip side, the expected response to receiving
a reminder in error is to assert the correct schedule, but projects can
certainly file out-of-cycle reports at their discretion.
The act of preparing a good report each quarter, one which accurately and
thoughtfully assesses the state of the community, is a fundamental aspect of
ASF decentralized self-governance. The Board wants to hear what is really
going on and gets very impatient with boilerplate filler reports, but they
don't want to get involved. They'd rather hear how the community itself is
solving problems and meeting challenges.
> (With luck we’ll be graduated before December.)
Right on!
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
FWIW, Exactly the same thing happened to Calcite. Missed July, reported in August, was asked to report in September. Rather than quibbling, I filed a report. (With luck we’ll be graduated before December.)
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>> I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule
>> when we reported last month.
>>
>> Can anyone, please let me know?
>
> Looks like the a glitch in the record keeping. DataFu's last report
> was due in July but was delayed one month (which is fine) and as a
> result they got the "monthly" tag added. It should have been removed
> after the report was filed in August but that didn't happen. I've
> updated podlings.xml; the next report will be due in October.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule
> when we reported last month.
>
> Can anyone, please let me know?
Looks like the a glitch in the record keeping. DataFu's last report
was due in July but was delayed one month (which is fine) and as a
result they got the "monthly" tag added. It should have been removed
after the report was filed in August but that didn't happen. I've
updated podlings.xml; the next report will be due in October.
Cheers,
Marvin Humphrey
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