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Tuscany development status
Hello,
I'm trying to push for the adoption of SCA model (Tuscany) in a project
whose development activities will start on the second quarter of the
next year.
Next week there will be a meeting in which I would like to summarize the
status of Tuscany project. In particular, I would like to report on the
current conformity of Tuscany to the SCA specification, the companion UI
tools that can ease the development (not only those that may be under
the Apache effort, but also e.g. Eclipse), when a final SCA
specification is expected, and if other IT providers are
developing/providing more implementations.
I could gather such information from the web (of course I'm doing), but
I would appreciate whether you give me some hints on the practical
difficulties that we could have when approaching Tuscany.
Thanks in advance
francesco
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Re: Tuscany development status
Posted by Francesco Furfari <fr...@isti.cnr.it>.
Jim Marino wrote:
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:04 AM, Francesco Furfari wrote:
>
>> Thank you Jean-Sebastian,
>> I was supposing that it wasn't so easy to answer, especially to my
>> last question, but it didn't discourage me from continuing ;-).
>>
>> Just to inform you, there was general consensus respect the SCA
>> initiative, as well as caution because the work is still in progress.
>> Obviously there were also motivations against the SCA adoption as for
>> example the reuse of code already developed by the involved partners
>> ;-). But we are still defining the conceptual model so there is room
>> for any (maybe mixed) solution ... people asked me references.
>>
>> What I haven't found is a roadmap about the SCA specification, even an
>> approximate date for the version 1.0 can ease managers to go over
>> their hesitation (but I understand that it can produce negative effects).
>> Working in team we are particularly interested in the deployment
>> aspects of a service networks, so next months I've intention to
>> investigate such area to give them a practical demo of how SCA can
>> help our collaborative work.
>>
> Ciao Francesco,
>
> The SCA specification is targeting Q1 this year. Are you specifically
> interested in the Java implementation, C++ implementation or both? I'm
> happy to help answer any questions you have on the former as well as the
> SCA specs.
I think the system core will be based on Java platform, but some
components could be developed in C++ or PHP as well.
Personally I'm going to use Java, and I'm also interested to use OSGi
framework. I saw that there is already an OSGi module in the trunk, I
have just compiled it but not tested yet.
francesco
>
> Buon anno!
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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Re: Tuscany development status
Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:04 AM, Francesco Furfari wrote:
> Thank you Jean-Sebastian,
> I was supposing that it wasn't so easy to answer, especially to my
> last question, but it didn't discourage me from continuing ;-).
>
> Just to inform you, there was general consensus respect the SCA
> initiative, as well as caution because the work is still in progress.
> Obviously there were also motivations against the SCA adoption as
> for example the reuse of code already developed by the involved
> partners ;-). But we are still defining the conceptual model so
> there is room for any (maybe mixed) solution ... people asked me
> references.
>
> What I haven't found is a roadmap about the SCA specification, even
> an approximate date for the version 1.0 can ease managers to go
> over their hesitation (but I understand that it can produce
> negative effects).
> Working in team we are particularly interested in the deployment
> aspects of a service networks, so next months I've intention to
> investigate such area to give them a practical demo of how SCA can
> help our collaborative work.
>
Ciao Francesco,
The SCA specification is targeting Q1 this year. Are you specifically
interested in the Java implementation, C++ implementation or both?
I'm happy to help answer any questions you have on the former as well
as the SCA specs.
Buon anno!
Jim
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Re: Tuscany development status
Posted by Francesco Furfari <fr...@isti.cnr.it>.
Thank you Jean-Sebastian,
I was supposing that it wasn't so easy to answer, especially to my last
question, but it didn't discourage me from continuing ;-).
Just to inform you, there was general consensus respect the SCA
initiative, as well as caution because the work is still in progress.
Obviously there were also motivations against the SCA adoption as for
example the reuse of code already developed by the involved partners
;-). But we are still defining the conceptual model so there is room for
any (maybe mixed) solution ... people asked me references.
What I haven't found is a roadmap about the SCA specification, even an
approximate date for the version 1.0 can ease managers to go over their
hesitation (but I understand that it can produce negative effects).
Working in team we are particularly interested in the deployment aspects
of a service networks, so next months I've intention to investigate
such area to give them a practical demo of how SCA can help our
collaborative work.
see you on this ML
regards and happy new year
francesco
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
> Francesco Furfari wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm trying to push for the adoption of SCA model (Tuscany) in a
>> project whose development activities will start on the second quarter
>> of the next year.
>> Next week there will be a meeting in which I would like to summarize
>> the status of Tuscany project. In particular, I would like to report
>> on the
>> current conformity of Tuscany to the SCA specification, the companion
>> UI tools that can ease the development (not only those that may be
>> under the Apache effort, but also e.g. Eclipse), when a final SCA
>> specification is expected, and if other IT providers are
>> developing/providing more implementations.
>>
>> I could gather such information from the web (of course I'm doing),
>> but I would appreciate whether you give me some hints on the practical
>> difficulties that we could have when approaching Tuscany.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> francesco
>>
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>>
>>
> Francesco,
>
> I'm not sure if anybody else has already sent you any pointers, as most
> of us were on vacation the last 2 weeks, but most of the SCA information
> is on our Web site http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany, the OSOA spec
> collaboration site http://www.osoa.org and the PHP SOA package at
> http://pecl.php.net/package/SCA_SDO
>
> Here are a few more specific pointers:
>
> The latest level of the SCA spec is 0.96 and the OSOA collbatoration is
> working towards a 1.0 spec.
>
> You can find a list of early implementations of SCA and SDO (including
> Apache Tuscany of course) at
> http://www.osoa.org/display/Main/Early+Implementation+Examples+and+Tools.
>
> The Eclipse SOA tools platform project at http://www.eclipse.org/stp/ is
> building Eclipse tools for SCA.
>
> Finally the Tuscany SCA Milestone 2 announcement emails give you a list
> of the SCA features and spec levels supported in both the C++ and Java
> Tuscany runtimes.
> C++ M2:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-user/200611.mbox/%3c88068c950611060356x425b4778s96d33b7a3104476b@mail.gmail.com%3e
>
> Java M2:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200612.mbox/%3c458EFB7F.4040404@hursley.ibm.com%3e
>
>
> Community discussions on the next steps for Tuscany just started before
> the holidays and they're probably going to resume soon on the
> tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org mailing list.
>
> Feel free to post here or on tuscany-dev if you have more specific
> questions. I'll be able to help more with Tuscany C++ related questions
> but it looks like most of the people working on Tuscany Java are back
> from vacation this week as well.
>
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Re: Tuscany development status
Posted by Jean-Sebastien Delfino <js...@apache.org>.
Francesco Furfari wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to push for the adoption of SCA model (Tuscany) in a
> project whose development activities will start on the second quarter
> of the next year.
> Next week there will be a meeting in which I would like to summarize
> the status of Tuscany project. In particular, I would like to report
> on the
> current conformity of Tuscany to the SCA specification, the companion
> UI tools that can ease the development (not only those that may be
> under the Apache effort, but also e.g. Eclipse), when a final SCA
> specification is expected, and if other IT providers are
> developing/providing more implementations.
>
> I could gather such information from the web (of course I'm doing),
> but I would appreciate whether you give me some hints on the practical
> difficulties that we could have when approaching Tuscany.
>
> Thanks in advance
> francesco
>
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>
>
Francesco,
I'm not sure if anybody else has already sent you any pointers, as most
of us were on vacation the last 2 weeks, but most of the SCA information
is on our Web site http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany, the OSOA spec
collaboration site http://www.osoa.org and the PHP SOA package at
http://pecl.php.net/package/SCA_SDO
Here are a few more specific pointers:
The latest level of the SCA spec is 0.96 and the OSOA collbatoration is
working towards a 1.0 spec.
You can find a list of early implementations of SCA and SDO (including
Apache Tuscany of course) at
http://www.osoa.org/display/Main/Early+Implementation+Examples+and+Tools.
The Eclipse SOA tools platform project at http://www.eclipse.org/stp/ is
building Eclipse tools for SCA.
Finally the Tuscany SCA Milestone 2 announcement emails give you a list
of the SCA features and spec levels supported in both the C++ and Java
Tuscany runtimes.
C++ M2:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-user/200611.mbox/%3c88068c950611060356x425b4778s96d33b7a3104476b@mail.gmail.com%3e
Java M2:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200612.mbox/%3c458EFB7F.4040404@hursley.ibm.com%3e
Community discussions on the next steps for Tuscany just started before
the holidays and they're probably going to resume soon on the
tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org mailing list.
Feel free to post here or on tuscany-dev if you have more specific
questions. I'll be able to help more with Tuscany C++ related questions
but it looks like most of the people working on Tuscany Java are back
from vacation this week as well.
--
Jean-Sebastien
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