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Re: Point3: Growing the community

Hi Till,

My confluence id is "prestonc". Please add me to the wiki.

Thanks
Preston

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:

> Added.
>
> > On Aug 11, 2015, at 00:54, Heri Ramampiaro <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Till:
> >
> > My Confluence id is “heriram”.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -heri
> >
> >> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please
> register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your user
> name so that we can add it to our Wiki space.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Till
> >>
> >>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Done.
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
> >>>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
> >>>>
> >>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Till
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Till,
> >>>>> My username is Jianfeng
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get messy
> >>>> after
> >>>>>> a while.
> >>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think
> that
> >>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
> >>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would
> be
> >>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache
> tend to
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as
> mark-down
> >>>> which
> >>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates and
> >>>> even
> >>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the
> other
> >>>> hand,
> >>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've created a request (
> >>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
> >>>>>>>> ),
> >>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
> >>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <
> tillw@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one (and
> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
> >>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for different
> >>>>>>>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt
> that I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it
> perfectly.
> >>>> Let's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to address
> >>>> before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted
> to
> >>>> join
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing. Getting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
> >>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers
> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the
> ancient
> >>>> past
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was it?).
> I am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new
> features,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work
> >>>> towards
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that
> >>>> document
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a
> chance
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new
> area of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should
> eventually
> >>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----------------
> >>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> -----------------
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>> University of California, Irvine
> >
>

Re: Point3: Growing the community

Posted by Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>.
Done. 

Cheers,
Till 

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 17:59, Yingyi Bu <bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Till,
> 
>     Can you add me to the wiki?  My confluence id is buyingyi.
>     Thanks!
> 
> Best,
> Yingyi
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Added.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Till
>> 
>>> On 28 Sep 2015, at 11:43, Preston Carman wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Till,
>>> 
>>> My confluence id is "prestonc". Please add me to the wiki.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Preston
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Added.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 00:54, Heri Ramampiaro <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Till:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Confluence id is “heriram”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -heri
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please
>>>> register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your
>> user
>>>> name so that we can add it to our Wiki space.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
>>>>>>>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>>>> My username is Jianfeng
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get
>> messy
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache
>>>> tend to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as
>>>> mark-down
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates
>> and
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the
>>>> other
>>>>>>>> hand,
>>>>>>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've created a request (
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
>>>>>>>>>>>> ),
>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <
>>>> tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one
>> (and
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for
>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt
>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it
>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>>> Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to
>> address
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing.
>> Getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers
>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the
>>>> ancient
>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was
>> it?).
>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new
>>>> features,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work
>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that
>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a
>>>> chance
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new
>>>> area of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should
>>>> eventually
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>> 

Re: Point3: Growing the community

Posted by Yingyi Bu <bu...@gmail.com>.
Till,

     Can you add me to the wiki?  My confluence id is buyingyi.
     Thanks!

Best,
Yingyi

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:

> Added.
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On 28 Sep 2015, at 11:43, Preston Carman wrote:
>
> > Hi Till,
> >
> > My confluence id is "prestonc". Please add me to the wiki.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Preston
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Added.
> >>
> >>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 00:54, Heri Ramampiaro <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Till:
> >>>
> >>> My Confluence id is “heriram”.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> -heri
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please
> >> register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your
> user
> >> name so that we can add it to our Wiki space.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Till
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Done.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
> >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
> >>>>>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Till,
> >>>>>>> My username is Jianfeng
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get
> messy
> >>>>>> after
> >>>>>>>> a while.
> >>>>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think
> >> that
> >>>>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
> >>>>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would
> >> be
> >>>>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache
> >> tend to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as
> >> mark-down
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates
> and
> >>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the
> >> other
> >>>>>> hand,
> >>>>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've created a request (
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
> >>>>>>>>>> ),
> >>>>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
> >>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <
> >> tillw@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one
> (and
> >> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for
> different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt
> >> that I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it
> >> perfectly.
> >>>>>> Let's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to
> address
> >>>>>> before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted
> >> to
> >>>>>> join
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing.
> Getting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers
> >> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the
> >> ancient
> >>>>>> past
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was
> it?).
> >> I am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new
> >> features,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work
> >>>>>> towards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that
> >>>>>> document
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a
> >> chance
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new
> >> area of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should
> >> eventually
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----------------
> >>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jianfeng Jia
> >>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> >>>>> University of California, Irvine
> >>>
> >>
>

Re: Point3: Growing the community

Posted by Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>.
Added.

Cheers,
Till

On 28 Sep 2015, at 11:43, Preston Carman wrote:

> Hi Till,
>
> My confluence id is "prestonc". Please add me to the wiki.
>
> Thanks
> Preston
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Added.
>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 00:54, Heri Ramampiaro <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Till:
>>>
>>> My Confluence id is “heriram”.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -heri
>>>
>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please
>> register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your user
>> name so that we can add it to our Wiki space.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Till
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
>>>>>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <ji...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>> My username is Jianfeng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get messy
>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think
>> that
>>>>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
>>>>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would
>> be
>>>>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache
>> tend to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as
>> mark-down
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates and
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the
>> other
>>>>>> hand,
>>>>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've created a request (
>>>>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
>>>>>>>>>> ),
>>>>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <
>> tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one (and
>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt
>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it
>> perfectly.
>>>>>> Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to address
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted
>> to
>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing. Getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers
>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the
>> ancient
>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was it?).
>> I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new
>> features,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work
>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that
>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a
>> chance
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new
>> area of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should
>> eventually
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>
>>