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What are the ways to check Geronimo performance?
Hi lists,
i have read up about the Geronimo and it seems to be a very good application
server. However i like to check the performance of Geronimo.
So i like to ask all of you what are the ways to check for the scalability,
invocation speed, how much it can handle multi threaded functions, the
transport speed. Therefore i like to know what are the test tools i can use
or implement or how to go about it.
Do any of you have done these before?
Thanks in advance
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Re: What are the ways to check Geronimo performance?
Posted by newbie-gero <ch...@e7tech.com>.
djencks wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:28 AM, newbie-gero wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi lists,
>> i have read up about the Geronimo and it seems to be a very good
>> application
>> server. However i like to check the performance of Geronimo.
>>
>> So i like to ask all of you what are the ways to check for the
>> scalability,
>> invocation speed, how much it can handle multi threaded functions, the
>> transport speed. Therefore i like to know what are the test tools i
>> can use
>> or implement or how to go about it.
>>
>> Do any of you have done these before?
>
> Well, Matt Hogstrom did a lot of work along these lines but he's not
> very active at the moment. We have a benchmarking application called
> daytrader that can be used to test a lot of functionality. However
> IMO it is rather difficult to get useful comparative information
> between app servers without an enormous amount of work and hardware.
> Basically with tuning any well-known app server goes pretty darn
> fast, and in any particular benchmarketing study usually the one that
> the organization that does the study is more familiar with wins due
> to better tuning. I think the main use of apps like this is to
> pinpoint specific performance bottlenecks and provide a relatively
> controlled environment to try out solutions for them.
>
> some of the things you are likely to need to get meaningful results:
> one or more real servers (multiprocessor multicore)
> lots of client machines
> a c-based test harness (Matt couldn't find a java based test harness
> that could keep up with the server)
>
> Kevan's provided links to a couple of Matt's reports. At one time
> geronimo 2.x had severe performance problems looking up Datasources
> in jndi, but this has been fixed. I'm not sure if the latest report
> is before or after this fix.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> Hi, i have read up the reports. And yes, they are very informative and i
> do get an idea on what are the tests that need to be done.
> However i like to ask what are the tools to get those graphs on the
> performance of Geronimo because i like to write up a proposal for geronimo
> and i like to present live data on the performance of Geronimo.
>
> Thanks
> newbie
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: What are the ways to check Geronimo performance?
Posted by Gianny Damour <gi...@optusnet.com.au>.
On 21/03/2008, at 4:53 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:28 AM, newbie-gero wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi lists,
>> i have read up about the Geronimo and it seems to be a very good
>> application
>> server. However i like to check the performance of Geronimo.
>>
>> So i like to ask all of you what are the ways to check for the
>> scalability,
>> invocation speed, how much it can handle multi threaded functions,
>> the
>> transport speed. Therefore i like to know what are the test tools
>> i can use
>> or implement or how to go about it.
>>
>> Do any of you have done these before?
>
> Well, Matt Hogstrom did a lot of work along these lines but he's
> not very active at the moment. We have a benchmarking application
> called daytrader that can be used to test a lot of functionality.
> However IMO it is rather difficult to get useful comparative
> information between app servers without an enormous amount of work
> and hardware. Basically with tuning any well-known app server goes
> pretty darn fast, and in any particular benchmarketing study
> usually the one that the organization that does the study is more
> familiar with wins due to better tuning. I think the main use of
> apps like this is to pinpoint specific performance bottlenecks and
> provide a relatively controlled environment to try out solutions
> for them.
>
> some of the things you are likely to need to get meaningful results:
> one or more real servers (multiprocessor multicore)
> lots of client machines
> a c-based test harness (Matt couldn't find a java based test
> harness that could keep up with the server)
FWIW, you may want to give a try to tsung, http://tsung.erlang-
projects.org/. It is implemented in Erlang and, hence, can simulate a
ludicrously large number of clients from a single host.
Thanks,
Gianny
>
> Kevan's provided links to a couple of Matt's reports. At one time
> geronimo 2.x had severe performance problems looking up Datasources
> in jndi, but this has been fixed. I'm not sure if the latest
> report is before or after this fix.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> --
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>>
>
Re: What are the ways to check Geronimo performance?
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:28 AM, newbie-gero wrote:
>
> Hi lists,
> i have read up about the Geronimo and it seems to be a very good
> application
> server. However i like to check the performance of Geronimo.
>
> So i like to ask all of you what are the ways to check for the
> scalability,
> invocation speed, how much it can handle multi threaded functions, the
> transport speed. Therefore i like to know what are the test tools i
> can use
> or implement or how to go about it.
>
> Do any of you have done these before?
Well, Matt Hogstrom did a lot of work along these lines but he's not
very active at the moment. We have a benchmarking application called
daytrader that can be used to test a lot of functionality. However
IMO it is rather difficult to get useful comparative information
between app servers without an enormous amount of work and hardware.
Basically with tuning any well-known app server goes pretty darn
fast, and in any particular benchmarketing study usually the one that
the organization that does the study is more familiar with wins due
to better tuning. I think the main use of apps like this is to
pinpoint specific performance bottlenecks and provide a relatively
controlled environment to try out solutions for them.
some of the things you are likely to need to get meaningful results:
one or more real servers (multiprocessor multicore)
lots of client machines
a c-based test harness (Matt couldn't find a java based test harness
that could keep up with the server)
Kevan's provided links to a couple of Matt's reports. At one time
geronimo 2.x had severe performance problems looking up Datasources
in jndi, but this has been fixed. I'm not sure if the latest report
is before or after this fix.
thanks
david jencks
>
> Thanks in advance
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-
> ways-to-check-Geronimo-performance--tp16184525s134p16184525.html
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>
Re: What are the ways to check Geronimo performance?
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 20, 2008, at 1:28 PM, newbie-gero wrote:
>
> Hi lists,
> i have read up about the Geronimo and it seems to be a very good
> application
> server. However i like to check the performance of Geronimo.
>
> So i like to ask all of you what are the ways to check for the
> scalability,
> invocation speed, how much it can handle multi threaded functions, the
> transport speed. Therefore i like to know what are the test tools i
> can use
> or implement or how to go about it.
>
> Do any of you have done these before?
You can find some Geronimo performance measurements as follows:
Geronimo 1.1 data is here -- http://people.apache.org/~hogstrom/Geronimo-1.1.1-PerformanceReport.pdf
Geronimo 2.0 data is here -- http://people.apache.org/~hogstrom/performance/geronimo/2.0/Geronimo2.0.2PerformanceReport-v01draft.pdf
--kevan