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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2022/10/05 14:13:36 UTC

Re: Problems Installing OM

(please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))


On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>
> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no errors.
>
good news :)

>
> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
> /openmeetings command,
>

this is not command
this is the URL
can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?

https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host

you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
one-by-one

Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/

> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
> index.<something> file.
>
> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing the
> instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
> factor.
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
>
> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Maxim
>>
>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's very
>> nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>> have some hope of getting OM running.
>>
>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me as
>> though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>> me) are listed below.
>>
>>
> It seems OM is up and running
> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>
> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via a
>> browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser without
>> having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>> saying this.
>>
>
> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>
> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Mike Hart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for top posting
>>
>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>> proxy
>>
>> Please check OM is running:
>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>
>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I think
>>> anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>
>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.  From
>>> other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>
>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>
>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened port
>>> 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where possible
>>> I've checked that the software is working.
>>>
>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>> request times out.
>>>
>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully long
>>> time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

Obviously I'll work through your suggestions.  The Docker image sounds 
like it would be a good solution.

Sorry about no ccing.  I wasn't aware that this was to be done.  I did 
wonder how anyone knew I had sent a message as I don't receive any 
messages myself.  I hope I've got the correct address above.  Is there 
somewhere a 'how to use the support list'?

Again, thanks for your time.

Regards
Mike


On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>
>     I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>     errors.
>
> good news :)
>
>
>     I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>     /openmeetings command,
>
>
> this is not command
> this is the URL
> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>
> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>
> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers 
> one-by-one
>
> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>
>     including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running
>     the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache
>     looks for an index.<something> file.
>
>     I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>     implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document
>     about turnservers.  I'm behind a NAT on my local machine, so my
>     thought is that this may be a factor.
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>
>     On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>     Hello Mike,
>>
>>     On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear Maxim
>>
>>         Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options.
>>         It's very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly
>>         cheered me up, as I now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>
>>          I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which
>>         looks to me as though it's working, but I have to admit, the
>>         details don't mean much to me) are listed below.
>>
>>
>>     It seems OM is up and running
>>     Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR
>>     etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>
>>         I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the
>>         server via a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from
>>         Alvaro Bustos were for installing on a local machine.  If I
>>         put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command in the
>>         browser without having apache installed, it won't reach the
>>         VPS.  I think I'm right in saying this.
>>
>>
>>     since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>     https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>     <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>
>>         Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>         Mike Hart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>         Sorry for top posting
>>>
>>>         Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not
>>>         using it as proxy
>>>
>>>         Please check OM is running:
>>>         'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>
>>>         from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi
>>>
>>>             I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features
>>>             I, and I think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to
>>>             run.
>>>
>>>             I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4
>>>             core CPU.  From other posts, I think this should be more
>>>             than adequate.
>>>
>>>             I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0
>>>             on Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using
>>>             instructions from Docker as I couldn't get it to work
>>>             from the instructions provided.
>>>
>>>             I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've
>>>             also opened port 5443 using ufw.  All have been
>>>             installed without error and where possible I've checked
>>>             that the software is working.
>>>
>>>             When I run the command
>>>             https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the request
>>>             times out.
>>>
>>>             I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an
>>>             awfully long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>
>>>             Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 at 00:07, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> Sorry back again.
>
> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
> going.
>
> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>
> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any idea
> what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>
> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does that
> sound sensible to you?
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
>
>
The above URL should be "http://hnsn.org.uk:5080" (5080 is insecure port)


>
According to above screenshot your OM listens only at 5080 (I see no 5443
listed)
Please try to check logs at "/opt/open630/logs" I would say "catalina.out"
might contain some Tomcat startup errors


>
>
> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>
>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced by
>> 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when
>> replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
>> addresses in this message.
>>
>
> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
> I'm usually write user@
> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>
> :))
>
>> Mike
>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maxim
>>>
>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>
>>
>> I'm here to help :)
>>
>>
>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to
>>> get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
>>> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>> works.
>>>
>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.  If
>>> I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>
>>
>> This is bad idea :(
>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>
>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
>> same port
>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>
>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
>>> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>
>>
>> This is expected
>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>>
>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>
>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try
>>> this out over next week.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>
>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>> errors.
>>>>
>>> good news :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>
>>>
>>> this is not command
>>> this is the URL
>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>
>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>
>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>>> one-by-one
>>>
>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>
>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>>>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing the
>>>> instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's very
>>>>> nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>>>>> have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me
>>>>> as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>>>> me) are listed below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>
>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via a
>>>>> browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser without
>>>>> having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>>>> saying this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>>>>> proxy
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>
>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>>> request times out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully long
>>>>>> time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Mike,

sorry for the long response, I was on vacation

your config looks good to me

The only "suspicious" part is certs for coturn ...

you can get "non-default" values from coturn config as follows:
`cat /etc/turnserver.conf|grep -v '^#'|grep -v -e '^$'`

My config is:
```
fingerprint
lt-cred-mech
use-auth-secret
static-auth-secret=******************************
realm=om.alteametasoft.com
stale-nonce=0

proc-user=nobody
proc-group=nogroup
```

maybe you can simplify config to the above? (using your own password of
cause :)))

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Maxim Hi
>
> I've attached a revised version of the install log with the installation
> and configuration of coturn added.  I've also attached copies of
> openmeetings.properties and turnserver.conf as I though they may be
> relevant.
>
> I re-installed coturn but I still have the same problems.  When I run the
> Trickle ICE test I don't get a 'relay' record.  Also when I start a meeting
> I can only see myself and the other person can only see themselves.
> Neither of us can see each other.  The error message seems to have
> disappeared however.
>
> I've discovered the reason why there was no record of installing coturn.
> It seems that Libre Office disappears images when it saves the file. I had
> added screenshots for the coturn configuration. It seems that the pictures
> don't disappear if you save the file as a pdf.  Weird!
>
> Thanks once again.
>
> Regards
> Mike
> On 08/11/2022 09:28, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 23:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> I very much appreciate you taking the time to help me, so no apologies
>> needed (although I was a bit worried).
>>
>> I do in fact have a detailed list of the installation process (please
>> find attached).
>>
>
> Unfortunately it has no data for coturn setup :(
> It is important to set valid options in  /etc/turnserver.conf
> AND in openmeetings.properties
>
>>
>> I have Coturn installed on a separate VPS.  From my reading of the OM
>> installation instructions, it seemed to me that the turnserver should be on
>> a separate VPS, so this is what I've done.
>>
> Actually TURN server should be as public as possible
> It should be accessible by the world and OM
> (it will act as IP resolver and/or proxy for media streams)
>
>
>>   I have tested it and I get a srflx record for the stun server but the
>> turnserver doesn't seem to work  (see screen shots below).  Despite my best
>> efforts  I haven't as yet found a way of discovering why or what to do
>> about it.
>>
>> The Database *is* for testing only (at the moment) so I've attached a
>> dump of the database too.  I hope this will be enough for you to solve the
>> problem.
>>
>
> By the backup I usually mean backup created in OM via UI/command line :)))
>
>
>>
>> Again many thanks
>>
>> Regards
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/11/2022 10:12, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mike,
>>
>> sorry for the late response (lots of day-time-job ...)
>> according to invite user:
>> - I need some reproducible steps to be able to help. so I need very
>> detailed steps OR (if your DB is sort of test one) maybe you can run backup
>> and send me backup privately, so I can try using your DB
>>
>> According to other users not able to connect media:
>> - you need to set up TURN server
>>
>> According to correct set up of everything you can check
>> - Alvaro's guides:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>> - mail archives:
>> https://lists.apache.org/list?user@openmeetings.apache.org:lte=100M:coturn
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 21:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> Further to the message below regarding not being able to see remote
>>> users: the error message says 'Media service connection has failed for
>>> <user>'
>>>
>>> I thought this might help.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Problems Installing OM
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
>>> From: Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>> To: Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> <so...@gmail.com>
>>> CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final thank
>>> you email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems that I hope
>>> you'll be kind enough to help me with.
>>>
>>> So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the setup
>>> menu by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very exciting
>>> moment :)
>>>
>>> I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user in a
>>> group called testers.
>>>
>>> There are still a number of problems though:
>>>
>>> 1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears in the list
>>> of people in her assigned group, but when I try and invite her, she doesn't
>>> appear in the list of users to invite.  If I invite the group they're in
>>> then they get an email from me.
>>>
>>> 2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see me.  An
>>> error message appears saying that the camera failed to connect.
>>>
>>> Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> (added user@ list)
>>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start
>>>> without error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying anything
>>>> at the terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using 'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings'
>>>> but I get a 'can't connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm
>>>> once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires some
>>> additional steps
>>> you have to provide
>>> - your own DB
>>> - your own KMS
>>> - your own TURN server
>>> - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the VPS
>>>> and with the ISP.
>>>>
>>>> On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in
>>>>> the browser, I get the user login (see below).  How can I get to the
>>>>> setup screen?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>>> It has everything but TURN
>>>>
>>>> You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>>> OR
>>>> You can use "mini" version
>>>> and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>>>
>>>> All credentials are here:
>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>>>>>> installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried
>>>>>> to run OM as per instructions on Github (
>>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says
>>>>>> that to run OM you should enter the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be
>>>>>> what's supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've
>>>>>> included the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually it might work :)
>>>>> Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>>> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
>>>>>> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
>>>>>> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very
>>>>>> exciting.  I wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of
>>>>>> annoying you, even more thanks than before. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry back again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>>>>>> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
>>>>>> going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with
>>>>>> Tomcat etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't
>>>>>> connect' message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them
>>>>>> connect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any
>>>>>> idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does
>>>>>> that sound sensible to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be
>>>>>>> replaced by 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd
>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.  Do you
>>>>>>> literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both addresses in this
>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>>>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>>>>> I'm usually write user@
>>>>>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once
>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have
>>>>>>>> to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall,
>>>>>>>> it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>>>>>>>> /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in
>>>>>>>> https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it returns the Apache
>>>>>>>> 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is bad idea :(
>>>>>>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>>>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen
>>>>>>> the same port
>>>>>>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>>>>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per
>>>>>>>> Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>>>>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is expected
>>>>>>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to
>>>>>>>> try this out over next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good news :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>>>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is not command
>>>>>>>> this is the URL
>>>>>>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security
>>>>>>>> layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running
>>>>>>>>> the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>>>>>>>>> implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about
>>>>>>>>> turnservers.  I'm behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that
>>>>>>>>> this may be a factor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's
>>>>>>>>>> very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>>>>>> now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to
>>>>>>>>>> me as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much
>>>>>>>>>> to me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR
>>>>>>>>> etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server
>>>>>>>>>> via a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>>> *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings* command in the browser
>>>>>>>>>> without having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right
>>>>>>>>>> in saying this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using
>>>>>>>>>> it as proxy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core
>>>>>>>>>>> CPU.  From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from
>>>>>>>>>>> Docker as I couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>>>> opened port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and
>>>>>>>>>>> where possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>>> the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully
>>>>>>>>>>> long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Maxim Hi

I've attached a revised version of the install log with the installation 
and configuration of coturn added.  I've also attached copies of 
openmeetings.properties and turnserver.conf as I though they may be 
relevant.

I re-installed coturn but I still have the same problems.  When I run 
the Trickle ICE test I don't get a 'relay' record.  Also when I start a 
meeting I can only see myself and the other person can only see 
themselves.  Neither of us can see each other.  The error message seems 
to have disappeared however.

I've discovered the reason why there was no record of installing 
coturn.  It seems that Libre Office disappears images when it saves the 
file. I had added screenshots for the coturn configuration. It seems 
that the pictures don't disappear if you save the file as a pdf.  Weird!

Thanks once again.

Regards
Mike

On 08/11/2022 09:28, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 23:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     I very much appreciate you taking the time to help me, so no
>     apologies needed (although I was a bit worried).
>
>     I do in fact have a detailed list of the installation process
>     (please find attached).
>
>
> Unfortunately it has no data for coturn setup :(
> It is important to set valid options in  /etc/turnserver.conf
> AND in openmeetings.properties
>
>
>     I have Coturn installed on a separate VPS.  From my reading of the
>     OM installation instructions, it seemed to me that the turnserver
>     should be on a separate VPS, so this is what I've done.
>
> Actually TURN server should be as public as possible
> It should be accessible by the world and OM
> (it will act as IP resolver and/or proxy for media streams)
>
>       I have tested it and I get a srflx record for the stun server
>     but the turnserver doesn't seem to work  (see screen shots below).
>     Despite my best efforts  I haven't as yet found a way of
>     discovering why or what to do about it.
>
>     The Database /is/ for testing only (at the moment) so I've
>     attached a dump of the database too.  I hope this will be enough
>     for you to solve the problem.
>
>
> By the backup I usually mean backup created in OM via UI/command line :)))
>
>
>     Again many thanks
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 04/11/2022 10:12, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>     Hello Mike,
>>
>>     sorry for the late response (lots of day-time-job ...)
>>     according to invite user:
>>     - I need some reproducible steps to be able to help. so I need
>>     very detailed steps OR (if your DB is sort of test one) maybe you
>>     can run backup and send me backup privately, so I can try using
>>     your DB
>>
>>     According to other users not able to connect media:
>>     - you need to set up TURN server
>>
>>     According to correct set up of everything you can check
>>     - Alvaro's guides:
>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>     - mail archives:
>>     https://lists.apache.org/list?user@openmeetings.apache.org:lte=100M:coturn
>>
>>     On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 21:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         Further to the message below regarding not being able to see
>>         remote users: the error message says 'Media service
>>         connection has failed for <user>'
>>
>>         I thought this might help.
>>
>>         Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>         -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>         Subject: 	Re: Problems Installing OM
>>         Date: 	Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
>>         From: 	Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>         <ma...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>         To: 	Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>         <ma...@gmail.com>
>>         CC: 	user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>         <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>         <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my
>>         final thank you email, but unfortunately I'm still
>>         encountering problems that I hope you'll be kind enough to
>>         help me with.
>>
>>         So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to
>>         the setup menu by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That
>>         was a very exciting moment :)
>>
>>         I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other
>>         user in a group called testers.
>>
>>         There are still a number of problems though:
>>
>>             1) The user I added appears in the list of users and
>>             appears in the list of people in her assigned group, but
>>             when I try and invite her, she doesn't appear in the list
>>             of users to invite.  If I invite the group they're in
>>             then they get an email from me.
>>
>>             2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't
>>             see me.  An error message appears saying that the camera
>>             failed to connect.
>>
>>         Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>
>>         On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>         (added user@ list)
>>>
>>>         On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart
>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>             I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed
>>>             to start without error.  As with the full version it ran
>>>             without displaying anything at the terminal.  I rebooted
>>>             and tried to connect using
>>>             'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings' but I get a 'can't
>>>             connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm
>>>             once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and
>>>             expertise.
>>>
>>>
>>>         "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it
>>>         requires some additional steps
>>>         you have to provide
>>>         - your own DB
>>>         - your own KMS
>>>         - your own TURN server
>>>         - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>>>
>>>             Regards
>>>             Mike
>>>
>>>             ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on
>>>             ufw on the VPS and with the ISP.
>>>
>>>             On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart
>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>>                 It works sort of.  If I enter
>>>>                 *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the browser,
>>>>                 I get the user login (see below). How can I get to
>>>>                 the setup screen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>>>             It has everything but TURN
>>>>
>>>>             You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>>>             OR
>>>>             You can use "mini" version
>>>>             and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>>>
>>>>             All credentials are here:
>>>>             https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>>>
>>>>                 Kind regards
>>>>                 Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart
>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I'm making progress, but I've still got some
>>>>>                     probems. I've just installed the docker
>>>>>                     version of OM.  This all went very well until
>>>>>                     I tried to run OM as per instructions on
>>>>>                     Github
>>>>>                     (https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker)
>>>>>                     where it says that to run OM you should enter
>>>>>                     the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |docker run -i --rm --network host
>>>>>                     apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |I did this and all seemed well but the
>>>>>                     program hung. This may be what's supposed to
>>>>>                     happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault,
>>>>>                     I've included the screenshots below.  I think
>>>>>                     they are self explanatory.|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Actually it might work :)
>>>>>                 Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>>>                 I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |
>>>>>                     |
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |I've since restarted the machine and then
>>>>>                     tried to access OM from my browser and it
>>>>>                     works! (more or less).  What appears is the
>>>>>                     login screen not the setup screen.  How can I
>>>>>                     get to the setup screen?
>>>>>                     |
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working
>>>>>                     version.  Very exciting.  I wouldn't have got
>>>>>                     this far without your help, so at risk of
>>>>>                     annoying you, even more thanks than before. :)
>>>>>                     |
>>>>>
>>>>>                     |Regards
>>>>>                     Mike
>>>>>                     |
>>>>>
>>>>>                     On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Sorry back again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I'm still in the process of installing the
>>>>>>                     Docker version of Openmeetings. Meanwhile I'm
>>>>>>                     still trying to get the hand installed
>>>>>>                     version going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     In the light of your remark about Apache
>>>>>>                     HTTPD interfering with Tomcat etc., I stopped
>>>>>>                     HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a
>>>>>>                     'can't connect' message.  I've tried three
>>>>>>                     different ports but none of them connect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've added below the screen shots as I've
>>>>>>                     progressed. If you've any idea what I should
>>>>>>                     do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I'm considering re-installing from scratch,
>>>>>>                     but without Httpd.  Does that sound sensible
>>>>>>                     to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Regards
>>>>>>                     Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is
>>>>>>>                         a non terminal to be replaced by
>>>>>>>                         'openmeetings.apache.org'. I ccd
>>>>>>>                         user@openmeetings.apache.org when
>>>>>>>                         replying to you.  Do you literally mean
>>>>>>>                         'user@list'? I've ccd both addresses in
>>>>>>>                         this message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space
>>>>>>>                     character :)))
>>>>>>>                     Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>>>>                     https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is
>>>>>>>                     correct email :)
>>>>>>>                     I'm usually write user@
>>>>>>>                     Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>                         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I hope you don't mind me disturbing
>>>>>>>>                             you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I've discovered that the reason
>>>>>>>>                             port 5443 won't work is that I have
>>>>>>>>                             to get my ISP to open the ports. 
>>>>>>>>                             As I've got a VPS with its own
>>>>>>>>                             firewall, it hadn't occurred to me
>>>>>>>>                             that I'd have to do this. Anyway
>>>>>>>>                             the port now works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I've set up a virtual host in
>>>>>>>>                             Apache with DocumentRoot
>>>>>>>>                             /opt/open630. If I put an
>>>>>>>>                             index.html file in /opt/open630 and
>>>>>>>>                             put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>>>>>>>                             into the browser it returns the
>>>>>>>>                             Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         This is bad idea :(
>>>>>>>>                         /opt/open630 contains it's own web
>>>>>>>>                         server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>>>>>                         which should listen on port 5443 and
>>>>>>>>                         serve you OM pages :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         It is impossible to have both Apache
>>>>>>>>                         HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the same
>>>>>>>>                         port
>>>>>>>>                         please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443
>>>>>>>>                         using the command:
>>>>>>>>                         `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             If I then enter
>>>>>>>>                             https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>                             (as per Alvaros Bustos'
>>>>>>>>                             instructions) I get a 404 error.  I
>>>>>>>>                             have run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34
>>>>>>>>                             start command before trying to
>>>>>>>>                             access the website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         This is expected
>>>>>>>>                         I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443
>>>>>>>>                         and it has no idea about OM ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         I would recommend to stop Apache and
>>>>>>>>                         check one more time :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I haven't tried installing the
>>>>>>>>                             Docker image yet. I should be able
>>>>>>>>                             to try this out over next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Regards
>>>>>>>>                             Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim
>>>>>>>>                             Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             (please don't forget to CC user@
>>>>>>>>>                             list :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike
>>>>>>>>>                             Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Again many thanks for taking
>>>>>>>>>                                 the time to help me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I have looked at the logs and
>>>>>>>>>                                 there are a lot of warnings
>>>>>>>>>                                 but no errors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             good news :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I have tried various
>>>>>>>>>                                 permutations on the
>>>>>>>>>                                 https://localhost:5443
>>>>>>>>>                                 /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             this is not command
>>>>>>>>>                             this is the URL
>>>>>>>>>                             can you access your Apache HTTPD
>>>>>>>>>                             at this VPS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>                             should work with same host
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             you can try to start with all
>>>>>>>>>                             firewalls OFF, then add security
>>>>>>>>>                             layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             Alternatively you can try
>>>>>>>>>                             OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>>>>                             https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 including using the url, using
>>>>>>>>>                                 the ip address and I tried
>>>>>>>>>                                 running the command from and
>>>>>>>>>                                 index.php file in /opt/open630
>>>>>>>>>                                 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>>>>>                                 index.<something> file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I'm currently setting up the
>>>>>>>>>                                 stun server and generally
>>>>>>>>>                                 implementing the instructions
>>>>>>>>>                                 in Alveros Bustos' second
>>>>>>>>>                                 document about turnservers.
>>>>>>>>>                                 I'm behind a NAT on my local
>>>>>>>>>                                 machine, so my thought is that
>>>>>>>>>                                 this may be a factor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Regards
>>>>>>>>>                                 Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>                                 Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16,
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>>                                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Many thanks for
>>>>>>>>>>                                     replying.  I thought I'd
>>>>>>>>>>                                     run out of options. It's
>>>>>>>>>>                                     very nice of you to take
>>>>>>>>>>                                     the time, and it's
>>>>>>>>>>                                     certainly cheered me up,
>>>>>>>>>>                                     as I now have some hope
>>>>>>>>>>                                     of getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                      I ran the ps command as
>>>>>>>>>>                                     instructed. The results
>>>>>>>>>>                                     (which looks to me as
>>>>>>>>>>                                     though it's working, but
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I have to admit, the
>>>>>>>>>>                                     details don't mean much
>>>>>>>>>>                                     to me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Can you check is there
>>>>>>>>>>                                 anything suspicious (with
>>>>>>>>>>                                 prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>>>>>>>>                                 /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log
>>>>>>>>>>                                 ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I installed apache so as
>>>>>>>>>>                                     to be able to remotely
>>>>>>>>>>                                     access the server via a
>>>>>>>>>>                                     browser.  I assumed that
>>>>>>>>>>                                     the instructions from
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>>>>>                                     installing on a local
>>>>>>>>>>                                     machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>>>                                     *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command
>>>>>>>>>>                                     in the browser without
>>>>>>>>>>                                     having apache installed,
>>>>>>>>>>                                     it won't reach the VPS. 
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I think I'm right in
>>>>>>>>>>                                     saying this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 since you are running in VPS
>>>>>>>>>>                                 maybe you should use
>>>>>>>>>>                                 https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>>                                 ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Anyway I look forward to
>>>>>>>>>>                                     hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     On 30/09/2022 16:44,
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     Not sure yet why do you
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     need Apache, it seems
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     you are not using it as
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     proxy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     from mobile (sorry for
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     On Fri, Sep 30, 2022,
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     00:11 Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>>>                                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         I'm new to OM.  It
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         looks great and has
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         all the features I,
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         and I think anyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         could need, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         I have a VPS running
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         Ubuntu 22.04 with
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         8Gb ram and a 4 core
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         CPU. From other
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         posts, I think this
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         should be more than
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         adequate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         I've followed
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         Alveros Bustos's
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         instructions for
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         22.04. I installed
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         Docker and Kurento
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         using instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         from Docker as I
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         couldn't get it to
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         work from the
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         I've also installed
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         apache and an SSL
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         certificate. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         also opened port
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         5443 using ufw.  All
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         have been installed
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         without error and
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         where possible I've
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         checked that the
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         software is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         When I run the
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         command
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         I would deeply
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         appreciate some help
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         here.  I've spent an
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         awfully long time
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         getting this far, so
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         Thanks in advance to
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         anyone who hears my
>>>>>>>>>>>                                         pleas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 -- 
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             -- 
>>>>>>>>>                             Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>                             Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         -- 
>>>>>>>>                         Best regards,
>>>>>>>>                         Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     -- 
>>>>>>>                     Best regards,
>>>>>>>                     Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 -- 
>>>>>                 Best regards,
>>>>>                 Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             -- 
>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>             Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Mike,

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 23:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> I very much appreciate you taking the time to help me, so no apologies
> needed (although I was a bit worried).
>
> I do in fact have a detailed list of the installation process (please find
> attached).
>

Unfortunately it has no data for coturn setup :(
It is important to set valid options in  /etc/turnserver.conf
AND in openmeetings.properties

>
> I have Coturn installed on a separate VPS.  From my reading of the OM
> installation instructions, it seemed to me that the turnserver should be on
> a separate VPS, so this is what I've done.
>
Actually TURN server should be as public as possible
It should be accessible by the world and OM
(it will act as IP resolver and/or proxy for media streams)


>   I have tested it and I get a srflx record for the stun server but the
> turnserver doesn't seem to work  (see screen shots below).  Despite my best
> efforts  I haven't as yet found a way of discovering why or what to do
> about it.
>
> The Database *is* for testing only (at the moment) so I've attached a
> dump of the database too.  I hope this will be enough for you to solve the
> problem.
>

By the backup I usually mean backup created in OM via UI/command line :)))


>
> Again many thanks
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 04/11/2022 10:12, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> sorry for the late response (lots of day-time-job ...)
> according to invite user:
> - I need some reproducible steps to be able to help. so I need very
> detailed steps OR (if your DB is sort of test one) maybe you can run backup
> and send me backup privately, so I can try using your DB
>
> According to other users not able to connect media:
> - you need to set up TURN server
>
> According to correct set up of everything you can check
> - Alvaro's guides:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
> - mail archives:
> https://lists.apache.org/list?user@openmeetings.apache.org:lte=100M:coturn
>
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 21:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> Further to the message below regarding not being able to see remote
>> users: the error message says 'Media service connection has failed for
>> <user>'
>>
>> I thought this might help.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Problems Installing OM
>> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
>> From: Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>> To: Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> <so...@gmail.com>
>> CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final thank
>> you email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems that I hope
>> you'll be kind enough to help me with.
>>
>> So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the setup menu
>> by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very exciting moment :)
>>
>> I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user in a
>> group called testers.
>>
>> There are still a number of problems though:
>>
>> 1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears in the list
>> of people in her assigned group, but when I try and invite her, she doesn't
>> appear in the list of users to invite.  If I invite the group they're in
>> then they get an email from me.
>>
>> 2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see me.  An
>> error message appears saying that the camera failed to connect.
>>
>> Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> (added user@ list)
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start without
>>> error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying anything at the
>>> terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using 'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings'
>>> but I get a 'can't connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm
>>> once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>>>
>>
>> "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires some
>> additional steps
>> you have to provide
>> - your own DB
>> - your own KMS
>> - your own TURN server
>> - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>>
>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the VPS
>>> and with the ISP.
>>>
>>> On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in
>>>> the browser, I get the user login (see below).  How can I get to the
>>>> setup screen?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>> It has everything but TURN
>>>
>>> You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>> OR
>>> You can use "mini" version
>>> and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>>
>>> All credentials are here:
>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>>>>> installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried
>>>>> to run OM as per instructions on Github (
>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says
>>>>> that to run OM you should enter the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be
>>>>> what's supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've
>>>>> included the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually it might work :)
>>>> Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
>>>>> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
>>>>> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.
>>>>> I wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
>>>>> even more thanks than before. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry back again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>>>>> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
>>>>> going.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
>>>>> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>>>> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any
>>>>> idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does
>>>>> that sound sensible to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be
>>>>>> replaced by 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd
>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.  Do you literally
>>>>>> mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both addresses in this message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>
>>>>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>>>> I'm usually write user@
>>>>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>
>>>>> :))
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once
>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have
>>>>>>> to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall,
>>>>>>> it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>>>>>>> /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in
>>>>>>> https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it returns the Apache
>>>>>>> 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is bad idea :(
>>>>>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen
>>>>>> the same port
>>>>>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>>>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per
>>>>>>> Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>>>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is expected
>>>>>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM
>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to
>>>>>>> try this out over next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> good news :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is not command
>>>>>>> this is the URL
>>>>>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security
>>>>>>> layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running
>>>>>>>> the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing
>>>>>>>> the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>>>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's
>>>>>>>>> very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>>>>> now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to
>>>>>>>>> me as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much
>>>>>>>>> to me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.)
>>>>>>>> at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server
>>>>>>>>> via a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>> *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings* command in the browser
>>>>>>>>> without having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right
>>>>>>>>> in saying this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it
>>>>>>>>> as proxy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>>> opened port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and
>>>>>>>>>> where possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>> the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully
>>>>>>>>>> long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

I very much appreciate you taking the time to help me, so no apologies 
needed (although I was a bit worried).

I do in fact have a detailed list of the installation process (please 
find attached).

I have Coturn installed on a separate VPS.  From my reading of the OM 
installation instructions, it seemed to me that the turnserver should be 
on a separate VPS, so this is what I've done.  I have tested it and I 
get a srflx record for the stun server but the turnserver doesn't seem 
to work  (see screen shots below).  Despite my best efforts  I haven't 
as yet found a way of discovering why or what to do about it.

The Database /is/ for testing only (at the moment) so I've attached a 
dump of the database too.  I hope this will be enough for you to solve 
the problem.

Again many thanks

Regards
Mike










On 04/11/2022 10:12, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> sorry for the late response (lots of day-time-job ...)
> according to invite user:
> - I need some reproducible steps to be able to help. so I need very 
> detailed steps OR (if your DB is sort of test one) maybe you can run 
> backup and send me backup privately, so I can try using your DB
>
> According to other users not able to connect media:
> - you need to set up TURN server
>
> According to correct set up of everything you can check
> - Alvaro's guides: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
> - mail archives: 
> https://lists.apache.org/list?user@openmeetings.apache.org:lte=100M:coturn
>
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 21:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     Further to the message below regarding not being able to see
>     remote users: the error message says 'Media service connection has
>     failed for <user>'
>
>     I thought this might help.
>
>     Mike
>
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: 	Re: Problems Installing OM
>     Date: 	Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
>     From: 	Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> <ma...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>     To: 	Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>     <ma...@gmail.com>
>     CC: 	user@openmeetings.apache.org <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>     <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>
>
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final
>     thank you email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems
>     that I hope you'll be kind enough to help me with.
>
>     So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the
>     setup menu by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very
>     exciting moment :)
>
>     I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user
>     in a group called testers.
>
>     There are still a number of problems though:
>
>         1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears
>         in the list of people in her assigned group, but when I try
>         and invite her, she doesn't appear in the list of users to
>         invite.  If I invite the group they're in then they get an
>         email from me.
>
>         2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see
>         me.  An error message appears saying that the camera failed to
>         connect.
>
>     Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.
>
>     Kind regards
>     Mike
>
>
>     On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>     (added user@ list)
>>
>>     On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to
>>         start without error.  As with the full version it ran without
>>         displaying anything at the terminal.  I rebooted and tried to
>>         connect using 'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings' but I get a
>>         'can't connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid,
>>         I'm once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and
>>         expertise.
>>
>>
>>     "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it
>>     requires some additional steps
>>     you have to provide
>>     - your own DB
>>     - your own KMS
>>     - your own TURN server
>>     - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>>
>>         Regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>         ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw
>>         on the VPS and with the ISP.
>>
>>         On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart
>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>             It works sort of.  If I enter
>>>             *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the browser, I
>>>             get the user login (see below). How can I get to the
>>>             setup screen?
>>>
>>>
>>>         You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>>         It has everything but TURN
>>>
>>>         You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>>         OR
>>>         You can use "mini" version
>>>         and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>>
>>>         All credentials are here:
>>>         https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>>
>>>             Kind regards
>>>             Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart
>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>>                 I'm making progress, but I've still got some
>>>>                 probems.  I've just installed the docker version of
>>>>                 OM.  This all went very well until I tried to run
>>>>                 OM as per instructions on Github
>>>>                 (https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker)
>>>>                 where it says that to run OM you should enter the
>>>>                 following:
>>>>
>>>>                 |docker run -i --rm --network host
>>>>                 apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |
>>>>
>>>>                 |I did this and all seemed well but the program
>>>>                 hung. This may be what's supposed to happen, but in
>>>>                 case it is evidence of a fault, I've included the
>>>>                 screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Actually it might work :)
>>>>             Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>>             I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>>
>>>>                 |
>>>>                 |
>>>>
>>>>                 |I've since restarted the machine and then tried to
>>>>                 access OM from my browser and it works! (more or
>>>>                 less).  What appears is the login screen not the
>>>>                 setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>>                 |
>>>>
>>>>                 |Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working
>>>>                 version.  Very exciting.  I wouldn't have got this
>>>>                 far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
>>>>                 even more thanks than before. :)
>>>>                 |
>>>>
>>>>                 |Regards
>>>>                 Mike
>>>>                 |
>>>>
>>>>                 On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Sorry back again.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I'm still in the process of installing the Docker
>>>>>                 version of Openmeetings. Meanwhile I'm still
>>>>>                 trying to get the hand installed version going.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD
>>>>>                 interfering with Tomcat etc., I stopped HTTPD and
>>>>>                 started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>>>>                 message.  I've tried three different ports but
>>>>>                 none of them connect.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I've added below the screen shots as I've
>>>>>                 progressed.  If you've any idea what I should do
>>>>>                 next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but
>>>>>                 without Httpd.  Does that sound sensible to you?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Regards
>>>>>                 Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart
>>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non
>>>>>>                     terminal to be replaced by
>>>>>>                     'openmeetings.apache.org'. I ccd
>>>>>>                     user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to
>>>>>>                     you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'? I've
>>>>>>                     ccd both addresses in this message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space
>>>>>>                 character :)))
>>>>>>                 Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>>>                 https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct
>>>>>>                 email :)
>>>>>>                 I'm usually write user@
>>>>>>                 Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I hope you don't mind me disturbing you
>>>>>>>                         again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I've discovered that the reason port
>>>>>>>                         5443 won't work is that I have to get my
>>>>>>>                         ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a
>>>>>>>                         VPS with its own firewall, it hadn't
>>>>>>>                         occurred to me that I'd have to do this.
>>>>>>>                         Anyway the port now works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I've set up a virtual host in Apache
>>>>>>>                         with DocumentRoot /opt/open630. If I put
>>>>>>>                         an index.html file in /opt/open630 and
>>>>>>>                         put in https://<mysitename>:5443 into
>>>>>>>                         the browser it returns the Apache 'it
>>>>>>>                         Works!' page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     This is bad idea :(
>>>>>>>                     /opt/open630 contains it's own web server
>>>>>>>                     (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>>>>                     which should listen on port 5443 and serve
>>>>>>>                     you OM pages :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD
>>>>>>>                     and Apache Tomcat listen the same port
>>>>>>>                     please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using
>>>>>>>                     the command:
>>>>>>>                     `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         If I then enter
>>>>>>>                         https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>                         (as per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I
>>>>>>>                         get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>>>>>                         /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command
>>>>>>>                         before trying to access the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     This is expected
>>>>>>>                     I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and
>>>>>>>                     it has no idea about OM ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     I would recommend to stop Apache and check
>>>>>>>                     one more time :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I haven't tried installing the Docker
>>>>>>>                         image yet. I should be able to try this
>>>>>>>                         out over next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Regards
>>>>>>>                         Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>                         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Again many thanks for taking the
>>>>>>>>                             time to help me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I have looked at the logs and there
>>>>>>>>                             are a lot of warnings but no errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         good news :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I have tried various permutations
>>>>>>>>                             on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>>>>>                             /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         this is not command
>>>>>>>>                         this is the URL
>>>>>>>>                         can you access your Apache HTTPD at
>>>>>>>>                         this VPS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>                         should work with same host
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         you can try to start with all firewalls
>>>>>>>>                         OFF, then add security layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>>>                         https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             including using the url, using the
>>>>>>>>                             ip address and I tried running the
>>>>>>>>                             command from and index.php file in
>>>>>>>>                             /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>>>>                             index.<something> file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I'm currently setting up the stun
>>>>>>>>                             server and generally implementing
>>>>>>>>                             the instructions in Alveros Bustos'
>>>>>>>>                             second document about turnservers.
>>>>>>>>                             I'm behind a NAT on my local
>>>>>>>>                             machine, so my thought is that this
>>>>>>>>                             may be a factor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Regards
>>>>>>>>                             Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim
>>>>>>>>                             Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike
>>>>>>>>>                             Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Many thanks for replying.  I
>>>>>>>>>                                 thought I'd run out of
>>>>>>>>>                                 options. It's very nice of you
>>>>>>>>>                                 to take the time, and it's
>>>>>>>>>                                 certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>>>>>                                 now have some hope of getting
>>>>>>>>>                                 OM running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                  I ran the ps command as
>>>>>>>>>                                 instructed. The results (which
>>>>>>>>>                                 looks to me as though it's
>>>>>>>>>                                 working, but I have to admit,
>>>>>>>>>                                 the details don't mean much to
>>>>>>>>>                                 me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>>>                             Can you check is there anything
>>>>>>>>>                             suspicious (with prefix ERROR
>>>>>>>>>                             etc.) at
>>>>>>>>>                             /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I installed apache so as to be
>>>>>>>>>                                 able to remotely access the
>>>>>>>>>                                 server via a browser.  I
>>>>>>>>>                                 assumed that the instructions
>>>>>>>>>                                 from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>>>>                                 installing on a local
>>>>>>>>>                                 machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>>                                 *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command
>>>>>>>>>                                 in the browser without having
>>>>>>>>>                                 apache installed, it won't
>>>>>>>>>                                 reach the VPS.  I think I'm
>>>>>>>>>                                 right in saying this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             since you are running in VPS maybe
>>>>>>>>>                             you should use
>>>>>>>>>                             https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>                             ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Anyway I look forward to
>>>>>>>>>                                 hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>                                 Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>                                 Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Not sure yet why do you need
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Apache, it seems you are not
>>>>>>>>>>                                 using it as proxy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>>>                                 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                 On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11
>>>>>>>>>>                                 Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>>>                                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I'm new to OM.  It looks
>>>>>>>>>>                                     great and has all the
>>>>>>>>>>                                     features I, and I think
>>>>>>>>>>                                     anyone, could need, but I
>>>>>>>>>>                                     can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I have a VPS running
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram
>>>>>>>>>>                                     and a 4 core CPU. From
>>>>>>>>>>                                     other posts, I think this
>>>>>>>>>>                                     should be more than
>>>>>>>>>>                                     adequate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I've followed Alveros
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Bustos's instructions for
>>>>>>>>>>                                     OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu 22.04.
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I installed Docker and
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Kurento using
>>>>>>>>>>                                     instructions from Docker
>>>>>>>>>>                                     as I couldn't get it to
>>>>>>>>>>                                     work from the
>>>>>>>>>>                                     instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I've also installed
>>>>>>>>>>                                     apache and an SSL
>>>>>>>>>>                                     certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>>>                                     opened port 5443 using
>>>>>>>>>>                                     ufw.  All have been
>>>>>>>>>>                                     installed without error
>>>>>>>>>>                                     and where possible I've
>>>>>>>>>>                                     checked that the software
>>>>>>>>>>                                     is working.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     When I run the command
>>>>>>>>>>                                     https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>>                                     the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     I would deeply appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>                                     some help here.  I've
>>>>>>>>>>                                     spent an awfully long
>>>>>>>>>>                                     time getting this far, so
>>>>>>>>>>                                     far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                     Thanks in advance to
>>>>>>>>>>                                     anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             -- 
>>>>>>>>>                             Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>                             Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         -- 
>>>>>>>>                         Best regards,
>>>>>>>>                         Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     -- 
>>>>>>>                     Best regards,
>>>>>>>                     Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 -- 
>>>>>>                 Best regards,
>>>>>>                 Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             -- 
>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>             Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Mike,

sorry for the late response (lots of day-time-job ...)
according to invite user:
- I need some reproducible steps to be able to help. so I need very
detailed steps OR (if your DB is sort of test one) maybe you can run backup
and send me backup privately, so I can try using your DB

According to other users not able to connect media:
- you need to set up TURN server

According to correct set up of everything you can check
- Alvaro's guides:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
- mail archives:
https://lists.apache.org/list?user@openmeetings.apache.org:lte=100M:coturn

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 21:23, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> Further to the message below regarding not being able to see remote users:
> the error message says 'Media service connection has failed for <user>'
>
> I thought this might help.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: Problems Installing OM
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
> From: Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
> To: Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> <so...@gmail.com>
> CC: user@openmeetings.apache.org <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>
> Hi Maxim
>
> I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final thank you
> email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems that I hope you'll
> be kind enough to help me with.
>
> So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the setup menu
> by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very exciting moment :)
>
> I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user in a
> group called testers.
>
> There are still a number of problems though:
>
> 1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears in the list
> of people in her assigned group, but when I try and invite her, she doesn't
> appear in the list of users to invite.  If I invite the group they're in
> then they get an email from me.
>
> 2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see me.  An error
> message appears saying that the camera failed to connect.
>
> Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.
>
> Kind regards
> Mike
>
>
> On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> (added user@ list)
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start without
>> error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying anything at the
>> terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using 'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings'
>> but I get a 'can't connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm
>> once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>>
>
> "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires some
> additional steps
> you have to provide
> - your own DB
> - your own KMS
> - your own TURN server
> - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>
> Regards
>> Mike
>>
>> ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the VPS
>> and with the ISP.
>>
>> On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in
>>> the browser, I get the user login (see below).  How can I get to the
>>> setup screen?
>>>
>>
>> You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>> It has everything but TURN
>>
>> You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>> OR
>> You can use "mini" version
>> and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>
>> All credentials are here:
>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>
>> Kind regards
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>>>> installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried
>>>> to run OM as per instructions on Github (
>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says
>>>> that to run OM you should enter the following:
>>>>
>>>> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be what's
>>>> supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've included
>>>> the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually it might work :)
>>> Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
>>>> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
>>>> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.
>>>> I wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
>>>> even more thanks than before. :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Sorry back again.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>>>> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
>>>> going.
>>>>
>>>> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
>>>> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>>> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>>>>
>>>> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any
>>>> idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does
>>>> that sound sensible to you?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced
>>>>> by 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> when replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd
>>>>> both addresses in this message.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>
>>>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>>> I'm usually write user@
>>>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>
>>>> :))
>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once
>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm here to help :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have
>>>>>> to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall,
>>>>>> it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.
>>>>>> If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>>>>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is bad idea :(
>>>>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen
>>>>> the same port
>>>>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>
>>>>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per
>>>>>> Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is expected
>>>>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM
>>>>> ....
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to
>>>>>> try this out over next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> good news :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is not command
>>>>>> this is the URL
>>>>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>>>>>> one-by-one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running
>>>>>>> the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing
>>>>>>> the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's
>>>>>>>> very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>>>> now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to
>>>>>>>> me as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much
>>>>>>>> to me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.)
>>>>>>> at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server
>>>>>>>> via a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>> *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings* command in the browser
>>>>>>>> without having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right
>>>>>>>> in saying this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it
>>>>>>>> as proxy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>> opened port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and
>>>>>>>>> where possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>> the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully
>>>>>>>>> long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Fwd: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

Further to the message below regarding not being able to see remote 
users: the error message says 'Media service connection has failed for 
<user>'

I thought this might help.

Mike



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: Problems Installing OM
Date: 	Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:31:25 +0100
From: 	Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
To: 	Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
CC: 	user@openmeetings.apache.org <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>



Hi Maxim

I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final thank 
you email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems that I hope 
you'll be kind enough to help me with.

So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the setup 
menu by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very exciting 
moment :)

I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user in a 
group called testers.

There are still a number of problems though:

    1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears in the
    list of people in her assigned group, but when I try and invite her,
    she doesn't appear in the list of users to invite.  If I invite the
    group they're in then they get an email from me.

    2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see me.  An
    error message appears saying that the camera failed to connect.

Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.

Kind regards
Mike


On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> (added user@ list)
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start
>     without error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying
>     anything at the terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using
>     'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings' but I get a 'can't connect'
>     error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm once more, with
>     gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>
>
> "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires 
> some additional steps
> you have to provide
> - your own DB
> - your own KMS
> - your own TURN server
> - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>     ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the
>     VPS and with the ISP.
>
>     On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         It works sort of. If I enter
>>         *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the browser, I get the
>>         user login (see below). How can I get to the setup screen?
>>
>>
>>     You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>     It has everything but TURN
>>
>>     You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>     OR
>>     You can use "mini" version
>>     and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>
>>     All credentials are here:
>>     https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart
>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>             I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems. 
>>>             I've just installed the docker version of OM.  This all
>>>             went very well until I tried to run OM as per
>>>             instructions on Github
>>>             (https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker)
>>>             where it says that to run OM you should enter the
>>>             following:
>>>
>>>             |docker run -i --rm --network host
>>>             apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |
>>>
>>>             |I did this and all seemed well but the program hung.
>>>             This may be what's supposed to happen, but in case it is
>>>             evidence of a fault, I've included the screenshots
>>>             below.  I think they are self explanatory.|
>>>
>>>
>>>         Actually it might work :)
>>>         Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>         I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>
>>>             |
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |I've since restarted the machine and then tried to
>>>             access OM from my browser and it works! (more or less). 
>>>             What appears is the login screen not the setup screen. 
>>>             How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version. 
>>>             Very exciting.  I wouldn't have got this far without
>>>             your help, so at risk of annoying you, even more thanks
>>>             than before. :)
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |Regards
>>>             Mike
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>>             Sorry back again.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm still in the process of installing the Docker
>>>>             version of Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to
>>>>             get the hand installed version going.
>>>>
>>>>             In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD
>>>>             interfering with Tomcat etc., I stopped HTTPD and
>>>>             started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>>>             message.  I've tried three different ports but none of
>>>>             them connect.
>>>>
>>>>             I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed. 
>>>>             If you've any idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply
>>>>             grateful to know.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without
>>>>             Httpd. Does that sound sensible to you?
>>>>
>>>>             Regards
>>>>             Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart
>>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non
>>>>>                 terminal to be replaced by
>>>>>                 'openmeetings.apache.org'. I ccd
>>>>>                 user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to
>>>>>                 you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd
>>>>>                 both addresses in this message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>>>             Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>>             https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>
>>>>>             so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>>>>             I'm usually write user@
>>>>>             Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>
>>>>>             :))
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart
>>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Dear Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I hope you don't mind me disturbing you
>>>>>>                     again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've discovered that the reason port 5443
>>>>>>                     won't work is that I have to get my ISP to
>>>>>>                     open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its
>>>>>>                     own firewall, it hadn't occurred to me that
>>>>>>                     I'd have to do this. Anyway the port now works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've set up a virtual host in Apache with
>>>>>>                     DocumentRoot /opt/open630. If I put an
>>>>>>                     index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in
>>>>>>                     https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it
>>>>>>                     returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 This is bad idea :(
>>>>>>                 /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache
>>>>>>                 Tomcat)
>>>>>>                 which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM
>>>>>>                 pages :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and
>>>>>>                 Apache Tomcat listen the same port
>>>>>>                 please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the
>>>>>>                 command:
>>>>>>                 `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     If I then enter
>>>>>>                     https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as
>>>>>>                     per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404
>>>>>>                     error.  I have run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34
>>>>>>                     start command before trying to access the
>>>>>>                     website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 This is expected
>>>>>>                 I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has
>>>>>>                 no idea about OM ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I would recommend to stop Apache and check one
>>>>>>                 more time :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I haven't tried installing the Docker image
>>>>>>                     yet. I should be able to try this out over
>>>>>>                     next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Regards
>>>>>>                     Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>                     (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Again many thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>>>                         help me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I have looked at the logs and there are
>>>>>>>                         a lot of warnings but no errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     good news :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I have tried various permutations on the
>>>>>>>                         https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings
>>>>>>>                         command,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     this is not command
>>>>>>>                     this is the URL
>>>>>>>                     can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should
>>>>>>>                     work with same host
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     you can try to start with all firewalls OFF,
>>>>>>>                     then add security layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>>                     https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         including using the url, using the ip
>>>>>>>                         address and I tried running the command
>>>>>>>                         from and index.php file in /opt/open630
>>>>>>>                         as Apache looks for an index.<something>
>>>>>>>                         file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I'm currently setting up the stun server
>>>>>>>                         and generally implementing the
>>>>>>>                         instructions in Alveros Bustos' second
>>>>>>>                         document about turnservers. I'm behind a
>>>>>>>                         NAT on my local machine, so my thought
>>>>>>>                         is that this may be a factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Regards
>>>>>>>                         Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>                         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Many thanks for replying.  I
>>>>>>>>                             thought I'd run out of options.
>>>>>>>>                             It's very nice of you to take the
>>>>>>>>                             time, and it's certainly cheered me
>>>>>>>>                             up, as I now have some hope of
>>>>>>>>                             getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                              I ran the ps command as
>>>>>>>>                             instructed. The results (which
>>>>>>>>                             looks to me as though it's working,
>>>>>>>>                             but I have to admit, the details
>>>>>>>>                             don't mean much to me) are listed
>>>>>>>>                             below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>>                         Can you check is there anything
>>>>>>>>                         suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>>>>>>                         /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I installed apache so as to be able
>>>>>>>>                             to remotely access the server via a
>>>>>>>>                             browser.  I assumed that the
>>>>>>>>                             instructions from Alvaro Bustos
>>>>>>>>                             were for installing on a local
>>>>>>>>                             machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>                             *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command
>>>>>>>>                             in the browser without having
>>>>>>>>                             apache installed, it won't reach
>>>>>>>>                             the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>>>>>>>                             saying this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         since you are running in VPS maybe you
>>>>>>>>                         should use
>>>>>>>>                         https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>                         ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Anyway I look forward to hearing
>>>>>>>>                             from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Kind regards
>>>>>>>>                             Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim
>>>>>>>>                             Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             Not sure yet why do you need
>>>>>>>>>                             Apache, it seems you are not using
>>>>>>>>>                             it as proxy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>>                             'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike
>>>>>>>>>                             Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I'm new to OM.  It looks great
>>>>>>>>>                                 and has all the features I,
>>>>>>>>>                                 and I think anyone, could
>>>>>>>>>                                 need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I have a VPS running Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>                                 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4
>>>>>>>>>                                 core CPU. From other posts, I
>>>>>>>>>                                 think this should be more than
>>>>>>>>>                                 adequate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I've followed Alveros Bustos's
>>>>>>>>>                                 instructions for OM6.3.0 on
>>>>>>>>>                                 Ubuntu 22.04. I installed
>>>>>>>>>                                 Docker and Kurento using
>>>>>>>>>                                 instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>>>                                 couldn't get it to work from
>>>>>>>>>                                 the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I've also installed apache and
>>>>>>>>>                                 an SSL certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>>                                 opened port 5443 using ufw. 
>>>>>>>>>                                 All have been installed
>>>>>>>>>                                 without error and where
>>>>>>>>>                                 possible I've checked that the
>>>>>>>>>                                 software is working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 When I run the command
>>>>>>>>>                                 https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>                                 the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I would deeply appreciate some
>>>>>>>>>                                 help here.  I've spent an
>>>>>>>>>                                 awfully long time getting this
>>>>>>>>>                                 far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Thanks in advance to anyone
>>>>>>>>>                                 who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         -- 
>>>>>>>>                         Best regards,
>>>>>>>>                         Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     -- 
>>>>>>>                     Best regards,
>>>>>>>                     Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 -- 
>>>>>>                 Best regards,
>>>>>>                 Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>>             Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

I have made a lot of progress!  In fact I was composing my final thank 
you email, but unfortunately I'm still encountering problems that I hope 
you'll be kind enough to help me with.

So miracle of miracles, I managed to install OM and get to the setup 
menu by browsing <myurl>:5443/openmeetings.  That was a very exciting 
moment :)

I've now registered myself as an admin and created one other user in a 
group called testers.

There are still a number of problems though:

    1) The user I added appears in the list of users and appears in the
    list of people in her assigned group, but when I try and invite her,
    she doesn't appear in the list of users to invite.  If I invite the
    group they're in then they get an email from me.

    2) A remote user who logs in gets a connection but can't see me.  An
    error message appears saying that the camera failed to connect.

Those are the two biggest problems at the moment.

Kind regards
Mike


On 17/10/2022 04:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> (added user@ list)
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start
>     without error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying
>     anything at the terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using
>     'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings' but I get a 'can't connect'
>     error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm once more, with
>     gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>
>
> "mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires 
> some additional steps
> you have to provide
> - your own DB
> - your own KMS
> - your own TURN server
> - your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>     ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the
>     VPS and with the ISP.
>
>     On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         It works sort of. If I enter
>>         *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the browser, I get the
>>         user login (see below). How can I get to the setup screen?
>>
>>
>>     You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
>>     It has everything but TURN
>>
>>     You can try to customize this version using various hacks
>>     OR
>>     You can use "mini" version
>>     and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>>
>>     All credentials are here:
>>     https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart
>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>             I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems. 
>>>             I've just installed the docker version of OM.  This all
>>>             went very well until I tried to run OM as per
>>>             instructions on Github
>>>             (https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker)
>>>             where it says that to run OM you should enter the
>>>             following:
>>>
>>>             |docker run -i --rm --network host
>>>             apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |
>>>
>>>             |I did this and all seemed well but the program hung.
>>>             This may be what's supposed to happen, but in case it is
>>>             evidence of a fault, I've included the screenshots
>>>             below.  I think they are self explanatory.|
>>>
>>>
>>>         Actually it might work :)
>>>         Just produce NO output to the console :)
>>>         I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>>
>>>             |
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |I've since restarted the machine and then tried to
>>>             access OM from my browser and it works! (more or less). 
>>>             What appears is the login screen not the setup screen. 
>>>             How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version. 
>>>             Very exciting.  I wouldn't have got this far without
>>>             your help, so at risk of annoying you, even more thanks
>>>             than before. :)
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             |Regards
>>>             Mike
>>>             |
>>>
>>>             On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>>             Sorry back again.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm still in the process of installing the Docker
>>>>             version of Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to
>>>>             get the hand installed version going.
>>>>
>>>>             In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD
>>>>             interfering with Tomcat etc., I stopped HTTPD and
>>>>             started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>>>             message.  I've tried three different ports but none of
>>>>             them connect.
>>>>
>>>>             I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed. 
>>>>             If you've any idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply
>>>>             grateful to know.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without
>>>>             Httpd. Does that sound sensible to you?
>>>>
>>>>             Regards
>>>>             Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart
>>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non
>>>>>                 terminal to be replaced by
>>>>>                 'openmeetings.apache.org'. I ccd
>>>>>                 user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.
>>>>>                 Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
>>>>>                 addresses in this message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>>>             Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>>>             https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>
>>>>>             so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>>>>             I'm usually write user@
>>>>>             Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>>>
>>>>>             :))
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart
>>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Dear Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I hope you don't mind me disturbing you
>>>>>>                     again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I'm here to help :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've discovered that the reason port 5443
>>>>>>                     won't work is that I have to get my ISP to
>>>>>>                     open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its
>>>>>>                     own firewall, it hadn't occurred to me that
>>>>>>                     I'd have to do this. Anyway the port now works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've set up a virtual host in Apache with
>>>>>>                     DocumentRoot /opt/open630. If I put an
>>>>>>                     index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in
>>>>>>                     https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it
>>>>>>                     returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 This is bad idea :(
>>>>>>                 /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache
>>>>>>                 Tomcat)
>>>>>>                 which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM
>>>>>>                 pages :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and
>>>>>>                 Apache Tomcat listen the same port
>>>>>>                 please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the
>>>>>>                 command:
>>>>>>                 `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     If I then enter
>>>>>>                     https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as
>>>>>>                     per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404
>>>>>>                     error.  I have run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34
>>>>>>                     start command before trying to access the
>>>>>>                     website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 This is expected
>>>>>>                 I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has
>>>>>>                 no idea about OM ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I would recommend to stop Apache and check one
>>>>>>                 more time :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I haven't tried installing the Docker image
>>>>>>                     yet. I should be able to try this out over
>>>>>>                     next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Regards
>>>>>>                     Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>                     (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Hi Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Again many thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>>>                         help me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I have looked at the logs and there are
>>>>>>>                         a lot of warnings but no errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     good news :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I have tried various permutations on the
>>>>>>>                         https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings
>>>>>>>                         command,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     this is not command
>>>>>>>                     this is the URL
>>>>>>>                     can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should
>>>>>>>                     work with same host
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     you can try to start with all firewalls OFF,
>>>>>>>                     then add security layers one-by-one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>>>                     https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         including using the url, using the ip
>>>>>>>                         address and I tried running the command
>>>>>>>                         from and index.php file in /opt/open630
>>>>>>>                         as Apache looks for an index.<something>
>>>>>>>                         file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I'm currently setting up the stun server
>>>>>>>                         and generally implementing the
>>>>>>>                         instructions in Alveros Bustos' second
>>>>>>>                         document about turnservers. I'm behind a
>>>>>>>                         NAT on my local machine, so my thought
>>>>>>>                         is that this may be a factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Regards
>>>>>>>                         Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>                         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Many thanks for replying.  I
>>>>>>>>                             thought I'd run out of options.
>>>>>>>>                             It's very nice of you to take the
>>>>>>>>                             time, and it's certainly cheered me
>>>>>>>>                             up, as I now have some hope of
>>>>>>>>                             getting OM running.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                              I ran the ps command as
>>>>>>>>                             instructed. The results (which
>>>>>>>>                             looks to me as though it's working,
>>>>>>>>                             but I have to admit, the details
>>>>>>>>                             don't mean much to me) are listed
>>>>>>>>                             below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>>>                         Can you check is there anything
>>>>>>>>                         suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>>>>>>                         /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I installed apache so as to be able
>>>>>>>>                             to remotely access the server via a
>>>>>>>>                             browser.  I assumed that the
>>>>>>>>                             instructions from Alvaro Bustos
>>>>>>>>                             were for installing on a local
>>>>>>>>                             machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>>>                             *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command
>>>>>>>>                             in the browser without having
>>>>>>>>                             apache installed, it won't reach
>>>>>>>>                             the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>>>>>>>                             saying this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         since you are running in VPS maybe you
>>>>>>>>                         should use
>>>>>>>>                         https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>                         ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Anyway I look forward to hearing
>>>>>>>>                             from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Kind regards
>>>>>>>>                             Mike Hart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim
>>>>>>>>                             Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             Not sure yet why do you need
>>>>>>>>>                             Apache, it seems you are not using
>>>>>>>>>                             it as proxy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>>>                             'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike
>>>>>>>>>                             Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I'm new to OM.  It looks great
>>>>>>>>>                                 and has all the features I,
>>>>>>>>>                                 and I think anyone, could
>>>>>>>>>                                 need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I have a VPS running Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>                                 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4
>>>>>>>>>                                 core CPU. From other posts, I
>>>>>>>>>                                 think this should be more than
>>>>>>>>>                                 adequate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I've followed Alveros Bustos's
>>>>>>>>>                                 instructions for OM6.3.0 on
>>>>>>>>>                                 Ubuntu 22.04. I installed
>>>>>>>>>                                 Docker and Kurento using
>>>>>>>>>                                 instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>>>                                 couldn't get it to work from
>>>>>>>>>                                 the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I've also installed apache and
>>>>>>>>>                                 an SSL certificate. I've also
>>>>>>>>>                                 opened port 5443 using ufw. 
>>>>>>>>>                                 All have been installed
>>>>>>>>>                                 without error and where
>>>>>>>>>                                 possible I've checked that the
>>>>>>>>>                                 software is working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 When I run the command
>>>>>>>>>                                 https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>>>                                 the request times out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I would deeply appreciate some
>>>>>>>>>                                 help here.  I've spent an
>>>>>>>>>                                 awfully long time getting this
>>>>>>>>>                                 far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Thanks in advance to anyone
>>>>>>>>>                                 who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         -- 
>>>>>>>>                         Best regards,
>>>>>>>>                         Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     -- 
>>>>>>>                     Best regards,
>>>>>>>                     Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 -- 
>>>>>>                 Best regards,
>>>>>>                 Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>>             Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
(added user@ list)

On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 02:03, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> I started the mini version as you suggested.  It seemed to start without
> error.  As with the full version it ran without displaying anything at the
> terminal.  I rebooted and tried to connect using 'https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings'
> but I get a 'can't connect' error message (see below), so, I'm afraid, I'm
> once more, with gratitude, calling on your time and expertise.
>

"mini" version allows you to perform customizations BUT it requires some
additional steps
you have to provide
- your own DB
- your own KMS
- your own TURN server
- your own DATA_DIR (for files recordings

Regards
> Mike
>
> ps:  I've opened port 5443 as udp and tcp ports both on ufw on the VPS and
> with the ISP.
>
> On 14/10/2022 06:56, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the
>> browser, I get the user login (see below).  How can I get to the setup
>> screen?
>>
>
> You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
> It has everything but TURN
>
> You can try to customize this version using various hacks
> OR
> You can use "mini" version
> and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR
>
> All credentials are here:
> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials
>
> Kind regards
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>>> installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried
>>> to run OM as per instructions on Github (
>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says that
>>> to run OM you should enter the following:
>>>
>>> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be what's
>>> supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've included
>>> the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>>>
>>
>> Actually it might work :)
>> Just produce NO output to the console :)
>> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>>
>>>
>>> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
>>> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
>>> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>>
>>> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.  I
>>> wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
>>> even more thanks than before. :)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> Sorry back again.
>>>
>>> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>>> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
>>> going.
>>>
>>> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
>>> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>>> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>>>
>>> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any
>>> idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>>
>>> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does
>>> that sound sensible to you?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>>
>>>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced
>>>> by 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when
>>>> replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
>>>> addresses in this message.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>
>>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>>> I'm usually write user@
>>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>
>>> :))
>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm here to help :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to
>>>>> get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
>>>>> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.
>>>>> If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>>>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is bad idea :(
>>>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>>
>>>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
>>>> same port
>>>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>
>>>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
>>>>> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is expected
>>>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to
>>>>> try this out over next week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>> good news :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> this is not command
>>>>> this is the URL
>>>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>>
>>>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>>>>> one-by-one
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>
>>>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>>>>>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing
>>>>>> the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's
>>>>>>> very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>>> now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me
>>>>>>> as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>>>>>> me) are listed below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.)
>>>>>> at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via
>>>>>>> a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>> *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings* command in the browser
>>>>>>> without having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right
>>>>>>> in saying this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it
>>>>>>> as proxy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>>>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>>>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>> the request times out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully
>>>>>>>> long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 18:22, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the
> browser, I get the user login (see below).  How can I get to the setup
> screen?
>

You have started "full" version of dockerized OM
It has everything but TURN

You can try to customize this version using various hacks
OR
You can use "mini" version
and provide your own DB/KMS/DATA_DIR

All credentials are here:
https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/#credentials

Kind regards
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>> installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried
>> to run OM as per instructions on Github (
>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says that
>> to run OM you should enter the following:
>>
>> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>>
>>
>> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be what's
>> supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've included
>> the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>>
>
> Actually it might work :)
> Just produce NO output to the console :)
> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>
>>
>> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
>> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
>> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>>
>> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.  I
>> wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
>> even more thanks than before. :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Mike
>> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> Sorry back again.
>>
>> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
>> going.
>>
>> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
>> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
>> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>>
>> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any idea
>> what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>
>> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does that
>> sound sensible to you?
>>
>> Regards
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>
>>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced
>>> by 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when
>>> replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
>>> addresses in this message.
>>>
>>
>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>
>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
>> I'm usually write user@
>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>
>> :))
>>
>>> Mike
>>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>
>>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm here to help :)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to
>>>> get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
>>>> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.
>>>> If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is bad idea :(
>>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>
>>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
>>> same port
>>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>
>>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
>>>> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is expected
>>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>>>
>>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>
>>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try
>>>> this out over next week.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>>> errors.
>>>>>
>>>> good news :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this is not command
>>>> this is the URL
>>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>
>>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>
>>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>>>> one-by-one
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>
>>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>>>>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing
>>>>> the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>>> factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's
>>>>>> very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I
>>>>>> now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me
>>>>>> as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>>>>> me) are listed below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>>> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via
>>>>>> a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser
>>>>>> without having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right
>>>>>> in saying this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>>>>>> proxy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>>>> request times out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully
>>>>>>> long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

It works sort of.  If I enter *https://<myurl>:5443/openmeetings* in the 
browser, I get the user login (see below). How can I get to the setup 
screen?

Kind regards
Mike




On 13/10/2022 04:32, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just
>     installed the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until
>     I tried to run OM as per instructions on Github
>     (https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it
>     says that to run OM you should enter the following:
>
>     |docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |
>
>     |I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be
>     what's supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault,
>     I've included the screenshots below.  I think they are self
>     explanatory.|
>
>
> Actually it might work :)
> Just produce NO output to the console :)
> I would check if Web UI is accessible :)
>
>     |
>     |
>
>     |I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from
>     my browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the
>     login screen not the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup
>     screen?
>     |
>
>     |Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very
>     exciting. I wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at
>     risk of annoying you, even more thanks than before. :)
>     |
>
>     |Regards
>     Mike
>     |
>
>     On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Maxim
>>
>>     Sorry back again.
>>
>>     I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
>>     Openmeetings. Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand
>>     installed version going.
>>
>>     In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with
>>     Tomcat etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a
>>     'can't connect' message.  I've tried three different ports but
>>     none of them connect.
>>
>>     I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've
>>     any idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>>
>>     I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd. 
>>     Does that sound sensible to you?
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>         Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>>
>>>         I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be
>>>         replaced by 'openmeetings.apache.org
>>>         <http://openmeetings.apache.org>'. I ccd
>>>         user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.  Do you
>>>         literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both addresses in this
>>>         message.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>>>     Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>>>     https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>
>>>     so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org
>>>     <http://openmeetings.apache.org>" is correct email :)
>>>     I'm usually write user@
>>>     Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>>
>>>     :))
>>>
>>>         Mike
>>>
>>>         On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart
>>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Dear Maxim
>>>>
>>>>             I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm
>>>>             stuck once more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I'm here to help :)
>>>>
>>>>             I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is
>>>>             that I have to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've
>>>>             got a VPS with its own firewall, it hadn't occurred to
>>>>             me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now works.
>>>>
>>>>             I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>>>>             /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in
>>>>             /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443 into
>>>>             the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         This is bad idea :(
>>>>         /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>>         which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>>
>>>>         It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache
>>>>         Tomcat listen the same port
>>>>         please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>>         `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>>
>>>>             If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>             (as per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404
>>>>             error.  I have run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start
>>>>             command before trying to access the website.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         This is expected
>>>>         I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea
>>>>         about OM ....
>>>>
>>>>         I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>>
>>>>             I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I
>>>>             should be able to try this out over next week.
>>>>
>>>>             Regards
>>>>             Mike
>>>>
>>>>             On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>             (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart
>>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Hi Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of
>>>>>                 warnings but no errors.
>>>>>
>>>>>             good news :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I have tried various permutations on the
>>>>>                 https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings command,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             this is not command
>>>>>             this is the URL
>>>>>             can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>>
>>>>>             https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with
>>>>>             same host
>>>>>
>>>>>             you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add
>>>>>             security layers one-by-one
>>>>>
>>>>>             Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>>             https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>>
>>>>>                 including using the url, using the ip address and
>>>>>                 I tried running the command from and index.php
>>>>>                 file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>>>                 index.<something> file.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I'm currently setting up the stun server and
>>>>>                 generally implementing the instructions in Alveros
>>>>>                 Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>>>                 behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is
>>>>>                 that this may be a factor.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Regards
>>>>>                 Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>                 Hello Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart
>>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Dear Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run
>>>>>>                     out of options. It's very nice of you to take
>>>>>>                     the time, and it's certainly cheered me up,
>>>>>>                     as I now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                      I ran the ps command as instructed. The
>>>>>>                     results (which looks to me as though it's
>>>>>>                     working, but I have to admit, the details
>>>>>>                     don't mean much to me) are listed below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>>                 Can you check is there anything suspicious (with
>>>>>>                 prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>>>>                 /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I installed apache so as to be able to
>>>>>>                     remotely access the server via a browser.  I
>>>>>>                     assumed that the instructions from Alvaro
>>>>>>                     Bustos were for installing on a local
>>>>>>                     machine.  If I put the
>>>>>>                     *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command
>>>>>>                     in the browser without having apache
>>>>>>                     installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think
>>>>>>                     I'm right in saying this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>>                 https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>                 <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Kind regards
>>>>>>                     Mike Hart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>                     Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it
>>>>>>>                     seems you are not using it as proxy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>>                     'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart
>>>>>>>                     <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has
>>>>>>>                         all the features I, and I think anyone,
>>>>>>>                         could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with
>>>>>>>                         8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU. From other
>>>>>>>                         posts, I think this should be more than
>>>>>>>                         adequate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I've followed Alveros Bustos's
>>>>>>>                         instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>                         22.04. I installed Docker and Kurento
>>>>>>>                         using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>>>                         couldn't get it to work from the
>>>>>>>                         instructions provided.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I've also installed apache and an SSL
>>>>>>>                         certificate. I've also opened port 5443
>>>>>>>                         using ufw.  All have been installed
>>>>>>>                         without error and where possible I've
>>>>>>>                         checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         When I run the command
>>>>>>>                         https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>>>                         the request times out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         I would deeply appreciate some help
>>>>>>>                         here.  I've spent an awfully long time
>>>>>>>                         getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my
>>>>>>>                         pleas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 -- 
>>>>>>                 Best regards,
>>>>>>                 Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>>             Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         -- 
>>>>         Best regards,
>>>>         Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Best regards,
>>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 01:10, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just installed
> the docker version of OM.  This all went very well until I tried to run OM
> as per instructions on Github (
> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says that
> to run OM you should enter the following:
>
> docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0
>
>
> I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be what's
> supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've included
> the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
>

Actually it might work :)
Just produce NO output to the console :)
I would check if Web UI is accessible :)

>
> I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my
> browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen not
> the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
>
> Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.  I
> wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying you,
> even more thanks than before. :)
>
> Regards
> Mike
> On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim
>
> Sorry back again.
>
> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of
> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed version
> going.
>
> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat
> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't connect'
> message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them connect.
>
> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any idea
> what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>
> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does that
> sound sensible to you?
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>
>> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced by
>> 'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when
>> replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
>> addresses in this message.
>>
>
> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
> I'm usually write user@
> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>
> :))
>
>> Mike
>> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maxim
>>>
>>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>>
>>
>> I'm here to help :)
>>
>>
>>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to
>>> get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
>>> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>>> works.
>>>
>>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.  If
>>> I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>
>>
>> This is bad idea :(
>> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>
>> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
>> same port
>> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>
>> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
>>> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>>
>>
>> This is expected
>> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>>
>> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>
>> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try
>>> this out over next week.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>
>>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>>>> errors.
>>>>
>>> good news :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>>
>>>
>>> this is not command
>>> this is the URL
>>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>
>>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>
>>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>>> one-by-one
>>>
>>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>
>>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>>>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>>> index.<something> file.
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing the
>>>> instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's very
>>>>> nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>>>>> have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me
>>>>> as though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>>>> me) are listed below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>>> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>
>>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via a
>>>>> browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser without
>>>>> having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>>>> saying this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>>>>> proxy
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>
>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I
>>>>>> think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.
>>>>>> From other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>>> request times out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully long
>>>>>> time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

I'm making progress, but I've still got some probems.  I've just 
installed the docker version of OM. This all went very well until I 
tried to run OM as per instructions on Github 
(https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker) where it says that 
to run OM you should enter the following:

|docker run -i --rm --network host apache/openmeetings:6.3.0 |

|I did this and all seemed well but the program hung. This may be what's 
supposed to happen, but in case it is evidence of a fault, I've included 
the screenshots below.  I think they are self explanatory.
|

|I've since restarted the machine and then tried to access OM from my 
browser and it works! (more or less).  What appears is the login screen 
not the setup screen.  How can I get to the setup screen?
|

|Anyway I feel I'm getting close to a working version.  Very exciting.  
I wouldn't have got this far without your help, so at risk of annoying 
you, even more thanks than before. :)
|

|Regards
Mike
|

On 11/10/2022 18:07, Mike Hart wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim
>
> Sorry back again.
>
> I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of 
> Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed 
> version going.
>
> In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat 
> etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't 
> connect' message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them 
> connect.
>
> I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any 
> idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.
>
> I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does 
> that sound sensible to you?
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Maxim
>>
>>     Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>>
>>     I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be
>>     replaced by 'openmeetings.apache.org
>>     <http://openmeetings.apache.org>'. I ccd
>>     user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.  Do you
>>     literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both addresses in this message.
>>
>>
>> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
>> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>>
>> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org 
>> <http://openmeetings.apache.org>" is correct email :)
>> I'm usually write user@
>> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>>
>> :))
>>
>>     Mike
>>
>>     On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Dear Maxim
>>>
>>>         I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck
>>>         once more.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I'm here to help :)
>>>
>>>         I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that
>>>         I have to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS
>>>         with its own firewall, it hadn't occurred to me that I'd
>>>         have to do this.  Anyway the port now works.
>>>
>>>         I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>>>         /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630
>>>         and put in https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it
>>>         returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>>
>>>
>>>     This is bad idea :(
>>>     /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>>     which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>>
>>>     It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat
>>>     listen the same port
>>>     please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>>     `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>>
>>>         If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as
>>>         per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have
>>>         run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to
>>>         access the website.
>>>
>>>
>>>     This is expected
>>>     I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about
>>>     OM ....
>>>
>>>     I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>>
>>>         I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be
>>>         able to try this out over next week.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Mike
>>>
>>>         On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>         (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart
>>>>         <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>>
>>>>             Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>>
>>>>             I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of
>>>>             warnings but no errors.
>>>>
>>>>         good news :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             I have tried various permutations on the
>>>>             https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings command,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         this is not command
>>>>         this is the URL
>>>>         can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>>
>>>>         https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>>
>>>>         you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add
>>>>         security layers one-by-one
>>>>
>>>>         Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>>         https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>>
>>>>             including using the url, using the ip address and I
>>>>             tried running the command from and index.php file in
>>>>             /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an index.<something>
>>>>             file.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>>>>             implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second
>>>>             document about turnservers.  I'm behind a NAT on my
>>>>             local machine, so my thought is that this may be a factor.
>>>>
>>>>             Regards
>>>>             Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>             Hello Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart
>>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Dear Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out
>>>>>                 of options. It's very nice of you to take the
>>>>>                 time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>>>>>                 have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>>
>>>>>                  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results
>>>>>                 (which looks to me as though it's working, but I
>>>>>                 have to admit, the details don't mean much to me)
>>>>>                 are listed below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             It seems OM is up and running
>>>>>             Can you check is there anything suspicious (with
>>>>>             prefix ERROR etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I installed apache so as to be able to remotely
>>>>>                 access the server via a browser.  I assumed that
>>>>>                 the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>>                 installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>>                 *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command in
>>>>>                 the browser without having apache installed, it
>>>>>                 won't reach the VPS. I think I'm right in saying this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>>             https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>>             <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Kind regards
>>>>>                 Mike Hart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>                 Sorry for top posting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you
>>>>>>                 are not using it as proxy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Please check OM is running:
>>>>>>                 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart
>>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all
>>>>>>                     the features I, and I think anyone, could
>>>>>>                     need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb
>>>>>>                     ram and a 4 core CPU.  From other posts, I
>>>>>>                     think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions
>>>>>>                     for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed
>>>>>>                     Docker and Kurento using instructions from
>>>>>>                     Docker as I couldn't get it to work from the
>>>>>>                     instructions provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I've also installed apache and an SSL
>>>>>>                     certificate. I've also opened port 5443 using
>>>>>>                     ufw.  All have been installed without error
>>>>>>                     and where possible I've checked that the
>>>>>>                     software is working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     When I run the command
>>>>>>                     https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>>>                     request times out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I would deeply appreciate some help here. 
>>>>>>                     I've spent an awfully long time getting this
>>>>>>                     far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>>             Maxim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         -- 
>>>>         Best regards,
>>>>         Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Best regards,
>>>     Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

Sorry back again.

I'm still in the process of installing the Docker version of 
Openmeetings.  Meanwhile I'm still trying to get the hand installed 
version going.

In the light of your remark about Apache HTTPD interfering with Tomcat 
etc., I stopped HTTPD and started Tomcat, however I get a 'can't 
connect' message.  I've tried three different ports but none of them 
connect.

I've added below the screen shots as I've progressed.  If you've any 
idea what I should do next, I'd be deeply grateful to know.

I'm considering re-installing from scratch, but without Httpd.  Does 
that sound sensible to you?

Regards
Mike





On 11/10/2022 11:02, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>
>     I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be
>     replaced by 'openmeetings.apache.org
>     <http://openmeetings.apache.org>'. I ccd
>     user@openmeetings.apache.org when replying to you.  Do you
>     literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both addresses in this message.
>
>
> I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
> Mailing lists are listed at this page:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org 
> <http://openmeetings.apache.org>" is correct email :)
> I'm usually write user@
> Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o
>
> :))
>
>     Mike
>
>     On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear Maxim
>>
>>         I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck
>>         once more.
>>
>>
>>     I'm here to help :)
>>
>>         I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that
>>         I have to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS
>>         with its own firewall, it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have
>>         to do this.  Anyway the port now works.
>>
>>         I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>>         /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630
>>         and put in https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it
>>         returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>
>>
>>     This is bad idea :(
>>     /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
>>     which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>>
>>     It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat
>>     listen the same port
>>     please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
>>     `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>>
>>         If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as
>>         per Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have
>>         run the /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to
>>         access the website.
>>
>>
>>     This is expected
>>     I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about
>>     OM ....
>>
>>     I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>>
>>         I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be
>>         able to try this out over next week.
>>
>>         Regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>         On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>         (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Maxim
>>>
>>>             Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>
>>>             I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of
>>>             warnings but no errors.
>>>
>>>         good news :)
>>>
>>>
>>>             I have tried various permutations on the
>>>             https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings command,
>>>
>>>
>>>         this is not command
>>>         this is the URL
>>>         can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>>
>>>         https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>>
>>>         you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add
>>>         security layers one-by-one
>>>
>>>         Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>>         https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>>
>>>             including using the url, using the ip address and I
>>>             tried running the command from and index.php file in
>>>             /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an index.<something> file.
>>>
>>>             I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>>>             implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second
>>>             document about turnservers.  I'm behind a NAT on my
>>>             local machine, so my thought is that this may be a factor.
>>>
>>>             Regards
>>>             Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>             Hello Mike,
>>>>
>>>>             On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart
>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Dear Maxim
>>>>
>>>>                 Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of
>>>>                 options. It's very nice of you to take the time,
>>>>                 and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now have
>>>>                 some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>
>>>>                  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results
>>>>                 (which looks to me as though it's working, but I
>>>>                 have to admit, the details don't mean much to me)
>>>>                 are listed below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             It seems OM is up and running
>>>>             Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix
>>>>             ERROR etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>>
>>>>                 I installed apache so as to be able to remotely
>>>>                 access the server via a browser.  I assumed that
>>>>                 the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>>                 installing on a local machine.  If I put the
>>>>                 *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command in
>>>>                 the browser without having apache installed, it
>>>>                 won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in saying this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>>             https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>>             <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>>>
>>>>                 Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>
>>>>                 Kind regards
>>>>                 Mike Hart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>                 Sorry for top posting
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you
>>>>>                 are not using it as proxy
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Please check OM is running:
>>>>>                 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>>
>>>>>                 from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart
>>>>>                 <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the
>>>>>                     features I, and I think anyone, could need,
>>>>>                     but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram
>>>>>                     and a 4 core CPU.  From other posts, I think
>>>>>                     this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions
>>>>>                     for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed
>>>>>                     Docker and Kurento using instructions from
>>>>>                     Docker as I couldn't get it to work from the
>>>>>                     instructions provided.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I've also installed apache and an SSL
>>>>>                     certificate. I've also opened port 5443 using
>>>>>                     ufw. All have been installed without error and
>>>>>                     where possible I've checked that the software
>>>>>                     is working.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     When I run the command
>>>>>                     https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>>                     request times out.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     I would deeply appreciate some help here. 
>>>>>                     I've spent an awfully long time getting this
>>>>>                     far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             -- 
>>>>             Best regards,
>>>>             Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 16:27, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Maxim
>
> Many thanks for the very helpful reply.
>
> I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced by '
> openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when
> replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both
> addresses in this message.
>

I wrote "user@ list" (please NOTE the space character :)))
Mailing lists are listed at this page:
https://openmeetings.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

so "user (at) openmeetings.apache.org" is correct email :)
I'm usually write user@
Sometimes it can be users@openmeetings.a.o

:))

> Mike
> On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Maxim
>>
>> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>>
>
> I'm here to help :)
>
>
>> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to
>> get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
>> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
>> works.
>>
>> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.  If
>> I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
>> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>>
>
> This is bad idea :(
> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>
> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
> same port
> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>
> If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
>> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>>
>
> This is expected
> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>
> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>
> I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try
>> this out over next week.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mike
>> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim
>>>
>>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>>
>>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no errors.
>>>
>> good news :)
>>
>>>
>>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>>> /openmeetings command,
>>>
>>
>> this is not command
>> this is the URL
>> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>
>> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>
>> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
>> one-by-one
>>
>> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>
>>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>>> index.<something> file.
>>>
>>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing the
>>> instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>>> factor.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Mike,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's very
>>>> nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>>>> have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>>
>>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me as
>>>> though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>>> me) are listed below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It seems OM is up and running
>>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>>> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>
>>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via a
>>>> browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser without
>>>> having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>>> saying this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>>
>>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Mike Hart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>>
>>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>>>> proxy
>>>>
>>>> Please check OM is running:
>>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>
>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I think
>>>>> anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.  From
>>>>> other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>> request times out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully long
>>>>> time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Hi Maxim

Many thanks for the very helpful reply.

I'd assumed that 'list' in user@list is a non terminal to be replaced by 
'openmeetings.apache.org'.  I ccd user@openmeetings.apache.org when 
replying to you.  Do you literally mean 'user@list'?  I've ccd both 
addresses in this message.

Mike

On 11/10/2022 02:50, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Dear Maxim
>
>     I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once
>     more.
>
>
> I'm here to help :)
>
>     I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I
>     have to get my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its
>     own firewall, it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this. 
>     Anyway the port now works.
>
>     I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot
>     /opt/open630.  If I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put
>     in https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it returns the
>     Apache 'it Works!' page.
>
>
> This is bad idea :(
> /opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
> which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)
>
> It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen 
> the same port
> please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
> `sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`
>
>     If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per
>     Alvaros Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
>     /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the
>     website.
>
>
> This is expected
> I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....
>
> I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)
>
>     I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able
>     to try this out over next week.
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>     On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>     (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Maxim
>>
>>         Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>
>>         I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but
>>         no errors.
>>
>>     good news :)
>>
>>
>>         I have tried various permutations on the
>>         https://localhost:5443 /openmeetings command,
>>
>>
>>     this is not command
>>     this is the URL
>>     can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>>
>>     https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>>
>>     you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security
>>     layers one-by-one
>>
>>     Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
>>     https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>>
>>         including using the url, using the ip address and I tried
>>         running the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630
>>         as Apache looks for an index.<something> file.
>>
>>         I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>>         implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second
>>         document about turnservers. I'm behind a NAT on my local
>>         machine, so my thought is that this may be a factor.
>>
>>         Regards
>>         Mike
>>
>>
>>         On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>         Hello Mike,
>>>
>>>         On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear Maxim
>>>
>>>             Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of
>>>             options. It's very nice of you to take the time, and
>>>             it's certainly cheered me up, as I now have some hope of
>>>             getting OM running.
>>>
>>>              I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which
>>>             looks to me as though it's working, but I have to admit,
>>>             the details don't mean much to me) are listed below.
>>>
>>>
>>>         It seems OM is up and running
>>>         Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix
>>>         ERROR etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>>
>>>             I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access
>>>             the server via a browser.  I assumed that the
>>>             instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for installing on a
>>>             local machine.  If I put the
>>>             *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command in the
>>>             browser without having apache installed, it won't reach
>>>             the VPS.  I think I'm right in saying this.
>>>
>>>
>>>         since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>>         https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>>         <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>>
>>>             Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>>             Kind regards
>>>             Mike Hart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>             Sorry for top posting
>>>>
>>>>             Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are
>>>>             not using it as proxy
>>>>
>>>>             Please check OM is running:
>>>>             'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>>
>>>>             from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>
>>>>             On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart
>>>>             <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Hi
>>>>
>>>>                 I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the
>>>>                 features I, and I think anyone, could need, but I
>>>>                 can't get it to run.
>>>>
>>>>                 I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and
>>>>                 a 4 core CPU.  From other posts, I think this
>>>>                 should be more than adequate.
>>>>
>>>>                 I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for
>>>>                 OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed Docker and
>>>>                 Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>>                 couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>
>>>>                 I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate.
>>>>                 I've also opened port 5443 using ufw. All have been
>>>>                 installed without error and where possible I've
>>>>                 checked that the software is working.
>>>>
>>>>                 When I run the command
>>>>                 https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>>                 request times out.
>>>>
>>>>                 I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've
>>>>                 spent an awfully long time getting this far, so far
>>>>                 to no avail.
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 01:24, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:

> Dear Maxim
>
> I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.
>

I'm here to help :)


> I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to get
> my ISP to open the ports.  As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, it
> hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now
> works.
>
> I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.  If I
> put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in https://<mysitename>:5443
> into the browser it returns the Apache 'it Works!' page.
>

This is bad idea :(
/opt/open630 contains it's own web server (Apache Tomcat)
which should listen on port 5443 and serve you OM pages :)

It is impossible to have both Apache HTTPD and Apache Tomcat listen the
same port
please ensure who LISTEN the port 5443 using the command:
`sudo netstat -plant|grep 5443`

If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros
> Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the
> /etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.
>

This is expected
I guess Apache HTTPD listening at 5443 and it has no idea about OM ....

I would recommend to stop Apache and check one more time :)

I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try
> this out over next week.
>
> Regards
> Mike
> On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim
>>
>> Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>>
>> I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no errors.
>>
> good news :)
>
>>
>> I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>> /openmeetings command,
>>
>
> this is not command
> this is the URL
> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>
> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>
> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers
> one-by-one
>
> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>
>> including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running the
>> command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache looks for an
>> index.<something> file.
>>
>> I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally implementing the
>> instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document about turnservers.  I'm
>> behind a NAT on my local machine, so my thought is that this may be a
>> factor.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mike,
>>
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maxim
>>>
>>> Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options. It's very
>>> nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly cheered me up, as I now
>>> have some hope of getting OM running.
>>>
>>>  I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which looks to me as
>>> though it's working, but I have to admit, the details don't mean much to
>>> me) are listed below.
>>>
>>>
>> It seems OM is up and running
>> Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR etc.) at
>> /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>
>> I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the server via a
>>> browser.  I assumed that the instructions from Alvaro Bustos were for
>>> installing on a local machine.  If I put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings
>>> <https://localhost:5443/openmeetings>* command in the browser without
>>> having apache installed, it won't reach the VPS.  I think I'm right in
>>> saying this.
>>>
>>
>> since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>> https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings ?
>>
>> Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Mike Hart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for top posting
>>>
>>> Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not using it as
>>> proxy
>>>
>>> Please check OM is running:
>>> 'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>
>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features I, and I think
>>>> anyone, could need, but I can't get it to run.
>>>>
>>>> I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4 core CPU.  From
>>>> other posts, I think this should be more than adequate.
>>>>
>>>> I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0 on Ubuntu
>>>> 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using instructions from Docker as I
>>>> couldn't get it to work from the instructions provided.
>>>>
>>>> I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've also opened
>>>> port 5443 using ufw.  All have been installed without error and where
>>>> possible I've checked that the software is working.
>>>>
>>>> When I run the command https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the
>>>> request times out.
>>>>
>>>> I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an awfully long
>>>> time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Problems Installing OM

Posted by Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>.
Dear Maxim

I hope you don't mind me disturbing you again, but I'm stuck once more.

I've discovered that the reason port 5443 won't work is that I have to 
get my ISP to open the ports. As I've got a VPS with its own firewall, 
it hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to do this.  Anyway the port now 
works.

I've set up a virtual host in Apache with DocumentRoot /opt/open630.  If 
I put an index.html file in /opt/open630 and put in 
https://<mysitename>:5443 into the browser it returns the Apache 'it 
Works!' page.

If I then enter https://<mysitename>:5443/openmeetings (as per Alvaros 
Bustos' instructions) I get a 404 error.  I have run the 
/etc/init.d/tomcat34 start command before trying to access the website.

I haven't tried installing the Docker image yet. I should be able to try 
this out over next week.

Regards
Mike

On 05/10/2022 15:13, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> (please don't forget to CC user@ list :)))
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 01:06, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maxim
>
>     Again many thanks for taking the time to help me.
>
>     I have looked at the logs and there are a lot of warnings but no
>     errors.
>
> good news :)
>
>
>     I have tried various permutations on the https://localhost:5443
>     /openmeetings command,
>
>
> this is not command
> this is the URL
> can you access your Apache HTTPD at this VPS?
>
> https://localhost:5443/openmeetings should work with same host
>
> you can try to start with all firewalls OFF, then add security layers 
> one-by-one
>
> Alternatively you can try OM-in-docker:
> https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/
>
>     including using the url, using the ip address and I tried running
>     the command from and index.php file in /opt/open630 as Apache
>     looks for an index.<something> file.
>
>     I'm currently setting up the stun server and generally
>     implementing the instructions in Alveros Bustos' second document
>     about turnservers.  I'm behind a NAT on my local machine, so my
>     thought is that this may be a factor.
>
>     Regards
>     Mike
>
>
>     On 03/10/2022 06:52, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>     Hello Mike,
>>
>>     On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 00:16, Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear Maxim
>>
>>         Many thanks for replying.  I thought I'd run out of options.
>>         It's very nice of you to take the time, and it's certainly
>>         cheered me up, as I now have some hope of getting OM running.
>>
>>          I ran the ps command as instructed.  The results (which
>>         looks to me as though it's working, but I have to admit, the
>>         details don't mean much to me) are listed below.
>>
>>
>>     It seems OM is up and running
>>     Can you check is there anything suspicious (with prefix ERROR
>>     etc.) at /opt/open630/logs/openmeetings.log ?
>>
>>         I installed apache so as to be able to remotely access the
>>         server via a browser.  I assumed that the instructions from
>>         Alvaro Bustos were for installing on a local machine.  If I
>>         put the *https://localhost:5443/openmeetings***command in the
>>         browser without having apache installed, it won't reach the
>>         VPS.  I think I'm right in saying this.
>>
>>
>>     since you are running in VPS maybe you should use
>>     https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings
>>     <https://VPS_IP_OR_ADDRESS:5443/openmeetings> ?
>>
>>         Anyway I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>         Mike Hart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 30/09/2022 16:44, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>         Sorry for top posting
>>>
>>>         Not sure yet why do you need Apache, it seems you are not
>>>         using it as proxy
>>>
>>>         Please check OM is running:
>>>         'ps -ef|grep java'
>>>
>>>         from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 00:11 Mike Hart <mi...@gavrillo.co.uk>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi
>>>
>>>             I'm new to OM.  It looks great and has all the features
>>>             I, and I think anyone, could need, but I can't get it to
>>>             run.
>>>
>>>             I have a VPS running Ubuntu 22.04 with 8Gb ram and a 4
>>>             core CPU.  From other posts, I think this should be more
>>>             than adequate.
>>>
>>>             I've followed Alveros Bustos's instructions for OM6.3.0
>>>             on Ubuntu 22.04.  I installed Docker and Kurento using
>>>             instructions from Docker as I couldn't get it to work
>>>             from the instructions provided.
>>>
>>>             I've also installed apache and an SSL certificate. I've
>>>             also opened port 5443 using ufw.  All have been
>>>             installed without error and where possible I've checked
>>>             that the software is working.
>>>
>>>             When I run the command
>>>             https://<mywebsiteurl>:5443/openmeetings the request
>>>             times out.
>>>
>>>             I would deeply appreciate some help here.  I've spent an
>>>             awfully long time getting this far, so far to no avail.
>>>
>>>             Thanks in advance to anyone who hears my pleas.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards,
>>     Maxim
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim