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Posted to cactus-dev@jakarta.apache.org by Rob Oxspring <ro...@imapmail.org> on 2002/06/27 11:31:01 UTC
Jakarta Newsletter
Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your attention (and
conribtutions). Any discussion following that should involve me should
probably go on general@ or cc me directly - the whole point of the
newsletter is that I have niether the time nor the inclination to join all
the -dev lists myself... read on.
The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let developers know
what has been going on in the other projects, without having to monitor each
of them. Hopefully this will allow people to spot discussions and
subprojects that are important to them but were happening within a foriegn
list, the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas and
increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of the high aims - a
proof of concept issue was put out and discussed on general@
(http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@jakarta.apache.
org&msgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a proper
issue #1.
What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries of
the intersting / important discussions within their own group over the
course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would be
good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will be
taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general
pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply not
feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions
myself.
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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Re: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by Shawn Bayern <ba...@essentially.net>.
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> +1 Thanks Shawn
Great! I sent it off to Rob Oxspring, the maintainer of the newsletter.
Shawn
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Re: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@voyager.apg.more.net>.
+1 Thanks Shawn
Shawn Bayern wrote:
>
> How does this sound for a June summary for Jakarta Taglibs?
>
> On June 21, Jakarta Taglibs released version 1.0 of the "Standard
> Taglib," a compliant implementation of the JSP Standard Tag Library
> (JSTL), which is a new specification from the Java Community Process.
> The Taglibs group has also begun efforts to reorganize its web
> site and improve the process for responding to new submissions and
> ideas.
>
> --
> Shawn Bayern
> "JSTL in Action" http://www.jstlbook.com
> (coming in July 2002 from Manning Publications)
>
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Rob Oxspring wrote:
>
> > Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your attention (and
> > conribtutions). Any discussion following that should involve me should
> > probably go on general@ or cc me directly - the whole point of the
> > newsletter is that I have niether the time nor the inclination to join all
> > the -dev lists myself... read on.
> >
> > The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let developers know
> > what has been going on in the other projects, without having to monitor each
> > of them. Hopefully this will allow people to spot discussions and
> > subprojects that are important to them but were happening within a foriegn
> > list, the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas and
> > increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of the high aims - a
> > proof of concept issue was put out and discussed on general@
> > (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@jakarta.apache.
> > org&msgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a proper
> > issue #1.
> >
> > What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries of
> > the intersting / important discussions within their own group over the
> > course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would be
> > good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will be
> > taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general
> > pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply not
> > feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions
> > myself.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > For background regarding the newsletter, check out any/all of the mails
> > here:
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&listName=general@jakar
> > ta.apache.org&searchText=newsletter&defaultField=subject&Search=Search
> >
> >
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Re: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by Pierre Delisle <pi...@sun.com>.
Shawn Bayern wrote:
>
> How does this sound for a June summary for Jakarta Taglibs?
>
> On June 21, Jakarta Taglibs released version 1.0 of the "Standard
> Taglib," a compliant implementation of the JSP Standard Tag Library
> (JSTL), which is a new specification from the Java Community Process.
> The Taglibs group has also begun efforts to reorganize its web
> site and improve the process for responding to new submissions and
> ideas.
Excellent! +1.
-- Pierre
>
> --
> Shawn Bayern
> "JSTL in Action" http://www.jstlbook.com
> (coming in July 2002 from Manning Publications)
>
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Rob Oxspring wrote:
>
> > Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your attention (and
> > conribtutions). Any discussion following that should involve me should
> > probably go on general@ or cc me directly - the whole point of the
> > newsletter is that I have niether the time nor the inclination to join all
> > the -dev lists myself... read on.
> >
> > The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let developers know
> > what has been going on in the other projects, without having to monitor each
> > of them. Hopefully this will allow people to spot discussions and
> > subprojects that are important to them but were happening within a foriegn
> > list, the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas and
> > increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of the high aims - a
> > proof of concept issue was put out and discussed on general@
> > (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@jakarta.apache.
> > org&msgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a proper
> > issue #1.
> >
> > What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries of
> > the intersting / important discussions within their own group over the
> > course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would be
> > good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will be
> > taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general
> > pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply not
> > feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions
> > myself.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > For background regarding the newsletter, check out any/all of the mails
> > here:
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&listName=general@jakar
> > ta.apache.org&searchText=newsletter&defaultField=subject&Search=Search
> >
> >
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Re: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by Shawn Bayern <ba...@essentially.net>.
How does this sound for a June summary for Jakarta Taglibs?
On June 21, Jakarta Taglibs released version 1.0 of the "Standard
Taglib," a compliant implementation of the JSP Standard Tag Library
(JSTL), which is a new specification from the Java Community Process.
The Taglibs group has also begun efforts to reorganize its web
site and improve the process for responding to new submissions and
ideas.
--
Shawn Bayern
"JSTL in Action" http://www.jstlbook.com
(coming in July 2002 from Manning Publications)
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Rob Oxspring wrote:
> Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your attention (and
> conribtutions). Any discussion following that should involve me should
> probably go on general@ or cc me directly - the whole point of the
> newsletter is that I have niether the time nor the inclination to join all
> the -dev lists myself... read on.
>
> The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let developers know
> what has been going on in the other projects, without having to monitor each
> of them. Hopefully this will allow people to spot discussions and
> subprojects that are important to them but were happening within a foriegn
> list, the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas and
> increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of the high aims - a
> proof of concept issue was put out and discussed on general@
> (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@jakarta.apache.
> org&msgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a proper
> issue #1.
>
> What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries of
> the intersting / important discussions within their own group over the
> course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would be
> good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will be
> taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general
> pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply not
> feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions
> myself.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rob
>
>
> For background regarding the newsletter, check out any/all of the mails
> here:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&listName=general@jakar
> ta.apache.org&searchText=newsletter&defaultField=subject&Search=Search
>
>
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RE: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
> From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:roxspring@imapmail.org]
> What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together
summaries
> of the intersting / important discussions within their own group over
the
> course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would
be
> good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will
be
> taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general
> pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply
not
> feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions
myself.
Rob, we at the Avalon group have just the thing for you since we are at
a
point where we want to gather user feedback.
The Avalon team is in the process of identifying the requirements for a
new
version of the Avalon Framework. The changes are minimal, and focus on
a
tighter definition of the contract between the container and the
component.
The container is the code that manages all the components and how to
access
them. The Avalon team has identified some anti-patterns related to its
use,
and wants to provide a way to make it easier to use correctly.
What we want to find out from the community at large is:
1) Are you currently using Avalon in one of your projects?
2) If not, what would it take for you to consider using it on a future
project?
3) If yes, what did you like best?
What were your greatest challenges?
If you could choose one way to improve Avalon, what would it be?
I'm not sure how we want to handle the communication. If they post
their
comments to avalon-users@jakarta.apache.org I can moderate them through.
The development team reads that list.
Slated for the next version of Avalon already:
1) Enhanced Meta Data. We are unifying the way we define meta data for
the components. This allows the component to be used in any Avalon
compliant container with zero issues. Previously you had to find out
how any one container defined meta information (like version, whether
the component is threadsafe or not, etc.).
2) (Tentative but likely) Standard way of extending the component
lifecycle.
Avalon already has a rich lifecycle management system, but sometimes
you need an application specific extension. We have plans of
allowing
that to happen, and use any of the existing containers.
3) Enhanced tutuorials, user documentation. The new docs (when written)
will
focus first on how to use Avalon (the biggest complaint about our
documentation).
It will then present the anti-patterns that Avalon is supposed to
address,
and the patterns it uses to solve those issues.
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RE: Jakarta Newsletter
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
Hi Rob,
This is David from the jetspeed-dev list.
We are planning on releasing Jetspeed 1.4b1 (or a1) next week.
I could send you some text describing the new features going into
Jetspeed 1.4.
Would that be something of interest for the newsletter?
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:roxspring@imapmail.org]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:31 AM
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> bcel-dev@jakarta.apache.org; cactus-dev@jakarta.apache.org;
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> james-dev@jakarta.apache.org;
> jetspeed-dev@jakarta.apache.org;
> jmeter-dev@jakarta.apache.org; log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org;
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> turbine-torque-dev@jakarta.apache.org;
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> Subject: Jakarta Newsletter
>
>
> Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your
> attention (and conribtutions). Any discussion following that
> should involve me should probably go on general@ or cc me
> directly - the whole point of the newsletter is that I have
> niether the time nor the inclination to join all the -dev
> lists myself... read on.
>
> The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let
> developers know what has been going on in the other projects,
> without having to monitor each of them. Hopefully this will
> allow people to spot discussions and subprojects that are
> important to them but were happening within a foriegn list,
> the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas
> and increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of
> the high aims - a proof of concept issue was put out and
> discussed on general@
> (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@j
akarta.apache.
org&msgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a
proper issue #1.
What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries
of the intersting / important discussions within their own group over
the course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It
would be good (though not essential) if you could let me know that
someone will be taking on the task for your project, so that I can
reduce the general pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit
nothing will simply not feature as I have not got the time to browse and
edit the discussions myself.
Thanks in advance,
Rob
For background regarding the newsletter, check out any/all of the mails
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akar
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